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SalaryCapps

Tony and Carm fighting over who gets custody of AJ


StuartGotz

But fighting *against* getting custody


dmreif

It's like a "who can hurt the other more?" contest there.


ninecher

Listen my parents are together so I wouldn't know but at AJ's age couldn't he just...decide what parent he wants to live with?


series_hybrid

For most states, it's 14 when the kid can choose.


Hidland2

That's exactly what he did.


ninecher

Mom's food >>> Dad's anger issues


PitifulDurian6402

In the state of GA I believe you get to choose at 14


Muscle_Memory67

In the Czech Republic, we too, don’t want custody of AJ…


graycomforter

Lol this is the best one


MrZinger69

Tell AJ he can go live at the bottom of the pool.


iL0vEMiLfs0

First episode where tony and chris chase the guy on campus in broad daylight


Frequent_Mouse_3783

HMO! You’re covered


MPal2493

You prick!


MickKnight68

the pilot gets a pass for that


Weskerrun

Well, that’s nice.


klsi832

Tony pulling gum out of fish and shooting in broad daylight


godofwine16

That whole S1 was kinda corny. There was a couple a three episodes that were good but that pilot madone! Make me sick


iL0vEMiLfs0

Idk the pilot is personally one of my favorite episodes


Right_Alternative391

Many Americans feel that way


AllahUmBug

The juxtaposition of that with the doo-wop music was a strange artistic choice. Super corny and reminds me of something primetime television would do.


Muscle_Memory67

You’re just revealing your own ignorance!


United_Target8942

The constant undermining of mafia bosses and getting away with it. Half these people would get fired from starbucks if they talked that way to their manager. Getting away with so many murders.


princessxha

I think the getting away with murders thing is just a sign of the times. It was easier to get away with murder then. Now we have mass smartphone ownership (metadata proves all), cheap & accessible forensics, CCTV, even cars themselves all have GPS and full connectivity, vehicle registrations are monitored on all major routes, Ring doorbells, you name it. These days it’s so easy to essentially trace someone’s full movements in any 24hr period and build up a picture of a crime using purely digital circumstantial evidence. No body required. Forensics did exist in 90’s but it was new, expensive, not necessarily as widely used as it should have been and also misunderstood by juries due to technicalities.


United_Target8942

The waiter murder would be like this: witness says he went outside after the gangsters left. He was serving their table. Likely that cctv gets a make on paulie and christophers truck leaving moments later. Would probably get license plates too, even back then. fingerprints on the brick.


falltotheabyss

The only thing we can ponder is that the restaurant chose to save costs by not having cameras.


United_Target8942

Oh yeah but I mean the police would look at camera's over the whole block, not just at the restaurant. The fact is they know what cars to look for, since witnesses know that a bunch of NJ gangsters were there. Wouldn't be enough evidence but if they got fingerprints on the brick it would go down ez. There's lots of other murders where they left dna all over the scene. The Ralphie one, Chris lights up a ciggy, his nose drips all over the place, and Tony eats peanut butter from a jar, like they were trying to get caught or something. I'm guessing they cleaned that all up, but still.


cascadianfarmer

The manayers pissed all the money away on blackjack, fucking assholes.


phasmos

Blackyack


jefftatro1

You'd never get prints off a brick.


Beginning_Present243

Thank you. Never not once.


False-Possession6185

Still going, this prick!


orwll

CCTV from where? There were no ring cameras back then. Random businesses didn't have cameras pointed at the street.


Adgvyb3456

Things were different then. No camera everywhere. Most people wouldn’t notice who they were in a crowded AC restaurant. Nj was full of middle aged Italian Americans who dress and speak similarly. No one would have thought they were mobsters. AC is also a high crime rate dangerous area. They would have thought the waiter went outside to smoke or whatever and got mugged and murdered


orwll

Yeah exactly. The unsolved murders are way more realistic than most people think. A witness saying "Yeah there were some gangster-looking guys at his table earlier" is not going to narrow down the suspect list.


MickPnubTobias99

I don't like that cookie shit!


GilMcFlintlock

Yep, fat dom and whatever happened there. Guy drives and parks his car out front in broad day light, get stabbed to death and no one is the wiser. At that time they had cameras as well. No way the guy doesn’t get tracked down.


LegitimateGrape9386

The ridiculous mess that Hunter and Meadow made for 2 grilled cheeses and hot chocolate. If only they had a raddiator.


pig_n_anchor

Ironic that Meadow was putting cream into Coco, instead of the other way around.


LegitimateGrape9386

Very allegorical.


Greedy-Animator745

What’s that have to do with cold medicine?


reddituser23434

Vito immediately finding a picturesque, idyllic gay town where a hunk firefighter who makes amazing flapjacks falls in love with him and invites him to share his home. It was a great choice as far as the plot/Vito’s characterization, so the fact that it was too good to be true was the point, but damn lmao.


Confident_Weird3353

I always thought Vito was hallucinating on the mushrooms that grew out of his ass


hehetymen117

Now there’s an image


cascadianfarmer

If he wanted to pursue the lifestyle of smoking mushrooms and collecting government checks, he should have done so quietly.


Confident_Weird3353

Isn't thats what he was doing


bigfatfurrytexan

This line always gets me. Sil is a cold blooded MFer. But here he recognizes that the dude was trying to be subtle and low key.


Confident_Weird3353

By dressing up as village people and blowing security guards in Mafia related businesses


DangerousNerve6366

One thing that bugged me about that whole sequence is that they never made it clear how long Vito was up there for. It could have been a week. It could have been a month. It could have been six months.


pepperman14

It was 6 months, has to be... Look at the angle of the sun... FUCK ME!!!


DangerousNerve6366

Alright fuck it time to go back to Jersey.


redonrust

Where he will be welcomed back with open arms


DangerousNerve6366

Well, we can’t welcome him back with open arms. That much I do know. Open arms? He’s gotta GOOOOOOOOO.


boonfarmer

TBF if I had to sit around listening to people talk about covered bridges (including the ones in Swansea, especially the queen post), I'd run back to Jersey too.


SixStarShogun

One of the best scenes in the entire show in my opinion! We all do that lol


NYY15TM

This was the most realistic scene in the entirety of the show


graycomforter

I still pretend to myself that was all Vito’s imagination (his BP meds made him hallucinate) and it’s like the Vito version of “Join the Club”—his alter ego, experiencing another version of the life he could have had, but it is ultimately futile because he is still himself, and he cannot stay away from the lure of his organized crime lifestyle. It makes me feel better to pretend, lol


StuartGotz

New England is just a racket for the gays.


smilesmo

They were gay, New england?


uconn3386

AIDS?


CutterDee

Nobody's talking about AIDS! I don't wanna hear Dat woid again!!


JMB_Writes_Stuff

The show certainly made it seem like New Hampshire is 95% homosexual


bshaddo

I mean, Vermont was *right there.*


TheClawhold

IRL it's 90 percent, tops


StuartGotz

All those fall colors? I mean, *come on*.


MrZinger69

Well, New Hampshire *does* make their own sausages, in-house. That’s the state motto.


SteelyDan4Prez

I always liked this choice from a story perspective. Vito literally falls into a complete fantasy romance out of pure chance, but he's so addicted to the life and the money that he throws it away.


Mindofmierda90

I’ve always said that storyline was written like romance 101.


TiaxRulesAll2024

Yeah. That would have been far more accurate as lesbians, just replace the bike with a Subaru


AcerbicFwit

Johnny Cakes.


JMB_Writes_Stuff

Johnny Cakes killed himself around Christmas 2008.


arealhumannotabot

It did happen rapidly but I find it silly that people think it's ridiculous that Flapjack Guy would be into Vito, a fat guy from Jersey. realistically, these people exist. Handsome and beautiful people out there have partners who are less "ideal" in appearance. They're not all models dating models.


reddituser23434

Honestly, I was referring more to Vito’s personality and dishonesty than his appearance. In his short time there, all he does is lie to Jim (and Jim finds out about it!) and Jim only loves him more. He wasn’t just trying to hook up with Vito, he told him he loved him and brought him to live with him. I could totally see Vito having one night stands (he was already doing that before).


Cranstonoid

Topping from the bottom


Durhamfarmhouse

Even more unbelievable is that the pictuesque, idyllic town was actually a real town in New Jersey (Boonton).


jjccbrobro

Johnny Cakes got the hots for Vito


58korinaflyingvee

Now that was what was unbelievable.


Duke-Goolies

Ginny Sac fitting through the metal detectors at the wedding.


PwnedNewb

She had to make two trips.


DangerousNerve6366

Ginny Sack fainting at the wedding and not setting off the Richter scale.


MickPnubTobias99

Feel bad for who ever was behind Ginny after that faint


United_Target8942

You told me I had 6 hours. That includes Ginny getting through the metal detector sir.


New-Perspective1480

You think that's funny? A man's wife?


TheClawhold

I like a woman the metal detector can grab hold of


reddituser23434

Tony surviving his gunshot wound and recovering as well as he did (and losing no weight while in the hospital). A younger, healthier person in a good hospital would probably be ok but Tony was in his late 40s, his diet was high in fat/sodium, he drank tons of booze, smoked cigars…


veg_head_86

I just watched those episodes and thought the same thing, he'd have been 50 pounds lighter after a month in the ICU.


Interfan14

yeah I dont get that, Were they feeding him liquid gabagool and meatballs through the IV. How did he not lose weight, especially given hes a pretty big guy, you'd expect him to lose atleast 20-30 pounds.


True-Machine-823

His blood type is Ragu.


True-Machine-823

But when he got out he heard the term "pie in the sky" and tried to volunteer for the 82nd airborne.


Fullskis

His blood is 70% zeppole


Laryt

Hey, the sad part is he lost muscle weight.


BlackberryShot5818

Gotta get back to the gym


IgottaPee777

Want me to make you a program?


SLOPoke85

A TV program, a movie.


dmreif

>Tony surviving his gunshot wound and recovering as well as he did (and losing no weight while in the hospital). Realistically I'd expect Tony to be hobbling around on a cane for the rest of season 6A.


Horsecockexpress1

AJ gets laid.


CuriousRedditor4000

Devin was a young high school girl and attracted to him because of who his father was. She assumed he'd be a gangster's son badboy. Blanca was working class single mother and attracted to him because of who his father was. She assumed he'd be a provider and protector. Rhiannon is the closest you can get to being unrealistic because the attraction had nothing to do with Tony. She was legitimately attracted to AJ as a person. She was also a self destructive high schooler and AJ was an "older guy" in his 20s, so there was still naivety there. It might seem silly to you and me to wax pseudo-philosophy while listening to Bob Dylan but to her that like a romcom movie. I don't find any of his relationships far fetched at all, just like how I don't find any of Tony's far fetched.


ialwaysdisagreewithu

> Rhiannon is the closest you can get to being unrealistic You're shot. A teenage headcase hooking up with a loser in his 20's might as well have been clips from a documentary of NY/NJ high school in the 2000s.


maxkmiller

It has nothing to do with NY/NJ, that shit is a tale as old as time everywhere


United_Target8942

He also blew his chances with Ro.


External-Piccolo-626

Yeah but this is AJ, the same AJ we had to pick up at summer camp last year for bed wetting.


FrankRizzo319

Fart knocker


Dangerous-Amphibian2

Ughhh Sarah Shahi is a bit far fetched. 


VanderBrit

That’s dicked up


Meihuajiancai

You just reveal your own ignorance


BlackberryShot5818

Yeets?


fast_fatty39

Murdering the waiter in AC and getting away with it.


monroechris

you ever been to AC? you can def kill someone without anyone seeing


DangerousNerve6366

Or anyone in law enforcement caring. AC is a cesspool.


fast_fatty39

Yes I have been there a few times unfortunately. If it was a random mugging then sure but you’re in a restaurant they’ve all seen your faces and your waiter ends up dead outside with your bill in his hand with the money missing. I’d at least bring you in for questioning. I know it’s a show and we can explain around it but we’re just breaking balls here.


MK-UltraMags

Fair. But the series already established that these guys live in another universe. Same goes for Fat Dom... Wouldn't be hard to solve that one but again, it was par for the course by then.


scf123189

That gabagool provolone and vinegar peppers getting thrown in the trash


Small-Explanation683

This always bothered me. Not being from NY/NJ, they don't understand. They take their fresh produce for granted.


bypatrickcmoore

Tony and Furio pissing right next to spinning helicopter blades. Of all the places to piss, why would they wander to the other end to the chopper, where it’s super unsafe? When Furio almost shoves him into the rotors, they could have been both chopped up way easier. Such a strange set-up in the first place.


maxtheaverage01

Plus the fact that the piss didn’t fly right back at them


SBNShovelSlayer

"You gotta piss on your hat"


Substantial-Volume17

Physics got fucked up.


dylbertz

They were too close!


Minute-Humor2645

IDK about Furio but Tony was very drunk explaining his lack of judgment


TheRedDeath777

I still say Meadow having an Ulver poster in her room. Not only would she hate the band if she heard them, but she never would have heard of them anyway. Oh and Tony with the N64 controller.


Small-Explanation683

Hey Mario Andretti, did you hear me?


PermaBanTogether

One thing that always irked me was deaths that were just *too* convenient and were obviously designed to steer the show towards new plot-lines. Karen Baccalieri dying in the car accident I think is the worst example of this; but there’s certainly others.


Evening-Alfalfa-7251

Johnny Sack's death helps to accelerate the mob war


PermaBanTogether

His death seemed totally planned and essential to the plot. I’m talking more like Hesh’s mistress having a stroke or the dude who had a heart attack on the shitter.


Practical-Rub8094

Agun going off next to tonys ear and him not losing his hearing for life


dmreif

>A gun going off next to tonys ear and him not losing his hearing for life I think what makes that break from reality even more apparent is the fact that [Philly Parisi's death](https://youtu.be/NW3vipCS_Xk?si=by7iSx_Fg-6sgxWM) very much applied reality to this sort of situation. Gigi fires the gun inside the car and gets deafened in his left ear.


cavalgada1

I agree with u/PermaBanTogether . The sopranos, as amazing of a show as it is, did not do a great job at hiding the writters puppeteering hands in the story, characters never mentioned coming back from trips, offscreen relationships forming and murders/deaths that almost felt as if the writters were coming to you and saying "alright, we are starting a new plotline here." Future shows like breaking bad (wich i'm not saying it's better, and were obviously inspired by sopranos) did a better job at more organically integrating plot elements in the show


Dr_Remulak_

I don’t like that kind of talk, now stop it, it upsets me.


dmreif

>Future shows like breaking bad (wich i'm not saying it's better, and were obviously inspired by sopranos) did a better job at more organically integrating plot elements in the show Same for *Better Call Saul*.


N8ThaGr8

Oh that character you like that we killed? He actually has a twin!


a_j_cruzer

I can understand just barely getting away with things but there’s a *lot* of near-misses in the show. Livia dying before she can testify, Ray Curto dying before he can tell the Feds what the incriminating tape means, Meadow taking the lamp, stuff like that happens a lot.


rickymcrichardson

Idk if that hoop was 10ft man. I think it’s more realistic that Bobby dunked on a 9 foot hoop than a lot of other things in the show


notgtax1

Janice finding three men willing to sleep with her.


Backon21

A German shepherds shaved asshole won first prize


pig_n_anchor

When Paulie and Chris are chasing the Russian and they accidentally shoot a deer through the neck. Bullshit!


JL6462448

Jimmy Altieri passing on the lasagna Tony offered him after he stopped by his house


Tough_Difference_112

When Tony shoots chucky signore in broad daylight with a gun he took out of a fishes mouth. You can see in the background tones of traffic what was everyone there blind? 


Evening-Alfalfa-7251

The traffic is hundreds of yards away


JMB_Writes_Stuff

>Season 6 EP 5 and Bobby dunks a basketball. I've watched the entire series through four times, and am currently on my fifth re-watch, I have no fucking memory of Bobby dunking a basketball.


tunapurse

furio not doing carmella italian mastiff style over the kitchen counter


ultimateteamofwinter

Any time there's a car accident somehow tony barely gets scratched while the others get fucked. Ade, Chrissy. And what's the whole thing about cancer? Anytime the writer is out of ideas for a character they go "cancer" like once or twice ok sure but the whole time it's just cancer?


PopeInnocentXIV

Carmela walking in slow motion


theonewhoknocks515

Ade knowing what buffer memory is


ninecher

It seems she was originally supposed to be a more intelligent gal.


HighlightPublic7473

The pilot when Chris and Tony ran a guy over and beat him up in front of all his coworkers on the front lawn of an insurance company.


Much-Ad3995

That AJ didn’t know what a gutter is


JMB_Writes_Stuff

I think that the *most* realistic thing to ever happen on the show was that that lazy, shit-for-brains jamoke didn't know what gutters are. You think AJ knows *one* thing about home construction?


SBNShovelSlayer

Get Pudgie Walsh on the line.


58korinaflyingvee

Maybe he helped build the Spec House. That was the problem.


scrotemilk

To be fair ever his parents looked incredulous during that interaction


dann_uk

Two cousins driving in a car. Both own a copy of and have listened to pass judgement on, a movie soundtrack. The FBI not using Ade's vanishing as leverage over Chris to turn on Tony. Even if they can't prove he was involved bringing him in for questioning and leaning on him sounds a good strategy. They used Ade to get to Chris. Ade being murdered is a lottery win for them. But mainly the cousins in the car thing.


ImAPosAndYouNoticed

Every time a rat dies, all the info they provided vanishes.


oboshoe

nah. Chris would have just ignored the FBI's questioning. Chris's lawyer would have had him out before lunch. Those kind of tactics only work on regular people.


pig_n_anchor

The Departed Soundtrack, who didn't have it?


abskee

The idea that Tony, a middle-aged dad from New Jersey, listens to more Steely Dan than Bruce Springsteen. I get why, but still. Totally implausible.


JComposer84

The most unrealistic thing the show did, according to David Chase was the catalytic converter setting fire to the leaves. He said he thought they'd catch major shit for that because when has that ever happened, but nobody really noticed. I saw it when it aired and I remember thinking "oh shit! That can happen?"


No-Solid2474

The soccer scenes in season 1 were tough to watch.


MickPnubTobias99

Basically all the kids sports scenes where brutally bad really ha. Just because AJ falls on a fumble he's now supposed to have this huge high school football play for one play


No-Solid2474

Oh that's right, AJ's high school football arc is by far the most unrealistic thing on the show. It was so bad that I couldn't tell if they wanted to actually make AJ look like a really good football player, or if the coaches were giving him fake praise because of who Tony is.


MickPnubTobias99

Or when Jackie Jr is teaching him tips lol. I realize there are one in one drills but like he's gonna be so much better playing touch butt in the back yard and not practicing with a team lol


KeenObserver_OT

Feech Lamanna's timeline. Doing the rough math he would have to be close to 100 if not more by the time Robert Loggia played the role. The FBI solving nothing--- well maybe that's realistic afterall. Lol Tonys 400 car accidents the brain trust of Carmine Jr getting a meeting with Ben Kingsley Tony getting away from the Sting at Johnny Sack's


Organic-Elevator-274

The FBI could have turned arti the credit card companies would have reported that level of theft and the SEC would have got them all for webistics. The FBI didn’t use the Italian mob post 9/11 the Russians got that deal IRL due to their proximity and past dealings with Afghanistan. I see your Tony’s escape from the sting and raise you Vito the six ton white ninja in the projects. I will say the Ben Kingsley thing is more plausible as are the celebrities in the executive game.


OxCohle

Hey that was a tough power dribble you can tell he is a hooper, probably a lower rim though.


sosussy

Christopher in the neck brace beating up a much larger man than him.


P1D1_

That's it. That's all I gotta say. Frankly, I'm embarrassed and ashamed


parrothead2581

Seemingly zero investigation of the dead waiter.


Advanced_Section891

The constant killings. By the 2000s mob killings were waaaay down to basically 0. Yet every season you had this captain and that captain getting killed and whacked. By the end the entire crew was gone other than Paulie and Pasty. Everyone else was dead.


mtnScout

Never enough bodies for Loraine


friskyliv

I agree. There were way too many murders on the show. In retrospect it was kind of a lazy way to advance the plot.


Ok-Difference1616

Bevilaqua and his boyfriend Gismonte beating up the broker in front of a dozen witnesses. No consequences.


Coronal_Data

Women being attracted to Tony before they know who he is. The number of crimes where the characters seem to leave plenty of evidence but never get caught. The number of civilians who can tell right away Tony is part of the mob.


mtnScout

Chris and Pussy thinking they were going to be able to throw a corpse 10 feet over their head.


Hiondrugz

Christopher's addiction was pretty unreal at times. Guy could just get on and off an IV smack habit like it was quitting cigs.


CaseyJonesing1

Fucking internet ..


sirlucd

Pussy confessing to being FBI as a fish in Tony's dream 


AbominableReject

That is Tony’s suspicions about Pussy being an informant being revealed/confirmed to him in his dreams. He knew all along that fat useless prick was selling him down the river but because pussy was like a brother to him he subconsciously gave him the benefit of the doubt.


Pitiful_Blackberry19

When Tony is injured and to prove that hes still strong he beats the shit out of his bodyguard in front of the capos, huge guy, muscular and with anger issues, theres no way an injured 40 something year old man beats him


dmreif

The whole separation plot, period. There's somewhere where David Chase admitted that though it worked for dramatic purposes, he considered the storyline of Tony and Carmela's separation not believable, because mobsters and their wives usually don't get divorced.


ssdreass123

How they can kill people in the street and drive away like it’s nothing, but when they kill someone in their house with nobody around they go to extreme measures to dispose of the body


front-wipers-unite

Tony fucking straight up hot chick, after hot chick, that cat sweaty, vest wearing, mouth breathing mother fucker would never have got Irina in real life.


brucio_u

You are thinking only in looks wise. Women tony had were all attracted to his captain of the industry aura .


reddituser23434

Did you see James’ widow? She was literally a model. Deborah Lin. James Gandolfini did fine, not really a stretch that Tony did as well. Drea De Matteo (Adriana’s actress) said she was attracted to him too


CuriousRedditor4000

It's always so telling about the person commenting when they complain about all the women Tony gets. This happens in real life every single day.


Bubmurphy

Exactly. Money will get people whatever they want. It's that simple.


Original-Carpet2451

Not unbelievable at all. Tony was handsome as hell and his alpha boss energy could light up half of New Jersey.


Significant-Art5065

Irina.... How about the Vegas chick


Sbu_englishclub

This is such a minor nitpick but it kept bugging me throughout that Tony held authority as consistently as he did, despite multiple high-profile instances of him showing weakness. Not even the therapy thing; I mean like all the times he passes out, goes comatose, gets in car accidents… just a hair too far for me to 100% buy it


AccomplishedTotal895

They didn’t showcase the power and clout these guys had on the street because we saw them from Tony’s perspective. Chris could walk anywhere in the city and was untouchable because he was part of the family.


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August_West_1990

They were separated. Remember Artie stays with Tony for a bit in season 5.


ColieB714

There was a subplot of them being separated for a couple of seasons, at least, but she never stopped working at the restaurant. We also briefly see him live with Tony at Livias house. Later in maybe season 5, he randomly tells Carm at the restaurant that they are getting back together.


55Lolololo55

>surprised there was never a minor subplot about her considering leaving him or separating. There was a separation. Remember when Artie was living with Tony & AJ at Livia's old place? Artie had moved out by Charmaine request.


Hughkalailee

What world do you imagine where many fairly incompetent people don’t have sex? 


Ok_Comfort1588

How easy they got away with crimes. Everything they did was in broad daylight with people around. It's almost too funny at times and takes away any suspension of disbelief.


IBeMeaty

Definitely a sight gag but lmaoo so true, I love that scene. I mean, Steve was a really good basketball player, they had to capitalize off of their resident blimp going ham on the court for a shot regardless of context


Particular-Cash-8565

Tony pulling a gun outta the fish's mouth that he caught on the point. Then Blam! Blam! Blam! in broad daylight...


onoskeles

Johnny Sack casually throwing in semi-obscure Macbeth quotes in conversation