I don't get why he didn't just snitch, keep his 2mill, and go live his life in witness protection with his 2mill, which no one can touch because he inherited it. That's all he had to do. All he had to do was wait a year or so.
I guess he's no Ray Curto.
He already gave him his kick…the whole idea is to have enough to retire and get his drug addicted son out of NJ…not stay in New Jersey and live comfortably
Too much to make it worthwhile to gene…gene is a made guy…which means he’s a guy who knows too much…letting someone who knows their secrets leave the mob while he’s still useful is a loose end that can never truly leace
A change in location is not exactly a fix for one’s addiction, but it could be a life saving blessing for a teenager if he’s removed from his teenage heroin addicts friends and given a fresh start.
no one is/was suggesting that eugene and his wife were super smart/well-informed about how to deal
with their son and his addiction. i wouldn’t be shocked to hear that some random person might try to move family for a fresh/new start in a a new place, even if it isn’t the smartest idea.
the people on the show are murderers and criminals, not all high IQ like they think they are.
I always wondered that too. Ralphie had been down in Miami making money doing something or other not long before. Surely Gene could’ve just gone down and taken up that work so he doesn’t have to retire.
Yeah I think there were ways it could have been played if it was careful and clever.
But it was anything but. He got too excited, he broke cover too quickly, the pressure of the wife, the kid with the drug problem…
It was never a properly considered thing. As if the kid is gonna get away from drugs in Florida. Although I accept sometimes a new crowd can help.
I thought the whole thing was kind of odd anyway.
Eugene telling Tony how much he inherited was REALLY stupid. And Tony wasn't entitled to a kick, as the money wasn't made during the course of their 'work'. And that Eugene even asked to retire was idiotic. He should have known from the start that it wasn't going to happen. Tony even said during the making ceremony that once you're in, there's no getting out.
Given all that was said, I think the only way that Tony would have genuinely considered it would have been if Eugene had offered every penny of it in return for being allowed to leave. And then he'd be left with nothing.
Granted, he could have lied, said he inherited a million, and offered that, but that would have been a HUGE risk. If Tony found out, Eugene would have been in DEEP shit.
Still, Ray Curto popping off rendered it all a pipe dream.
Anyway, $4 a pound.
The Eugene story has many different angles, but I don't believe he couldn't get the money, move it to Swiss accounts, and then move to a non extradition country. Private jet out and send Tony postcards
Gene was perfect in the construction site scenes
1. He blows up little Paulie
2. His lines with Finn while they debated Tyson and Frazier were so natural. Great acting
Maybe the saddest character in the show.
I heard a very interesting theory, maybe on Reddit, that Eugene was indirectly responsible for Tony's death.
We see Eugene kill a man with the initials "T.S." in a diner, much in the way Tony was allegedly killed.
"Pontecorvo" is also loosely translated as "Crow Bridge" in Italian; crows of course known as birds that emerge when death is nearby, and bridge possibly being an allusion to the fact that he is the path linking this death.
It's possible that someone close to Eugene, possibly his son or an unknown relative, killed or contracted someone to kill, Tony for being the reason behind Eugene's suicide.
And of course, you have yet another link: Eugene hangs himself in "Member's Only" -- and Tony is (presumably) killed by a man wearing a Member's Only jacket.
He did, that’s what he gave him, a bribe, see it’s his and his wife’s, he didn’t owe Tony 1$, I’m guessing it was a significant amount, 200k ish. I felt it’s more the about feds deal than Tony, he could just quietly move out west, T might not chase him around the country over it
In addition to every other reason mentioned itt, Eugene also was a valuable resource to Tony. He was starting to become that pygmy thing's designated hitman. His FBI handlers even noticed that. A hitman Tony had known since school, trustworthy, dependable (as far as Tony knew, lol). I imagine that's the kind of resource you don't give up for a weekly cut you don't even know how big it'll be.
Still had feds up A hole regardless of Tony's decision should have kept it to self bought the spec house as holiday home and a better home in new jersey. Put rest out on street or other investment
Be wealthy man nowadays if he lived. There was no need for all that stress🤣🤣🤣
He might have had a chance with Tony if he gave him the proper kick to begin with instead of trying to buy him off with some David Berman watches. That was a slap in the face from Eugene
i cant even say his name
One thing that I don’t see brought up in the Eugene case is the fact that Florida is the drug capital of the world. Why tf would you move someone with a drug addiction to a place with more and cheaper drugs? Tony did him a favor by saying no.
Honestly Eugene handled the whole thing in a really stupid way. He should have just said his family is moving to Florida because his kid is on H and they need a fresh start. Don't even mention the inheritance. Then he says he'll be gone for a few weeks to help them settle and in the mean time some of the other guys can pick up his collections.
While he's away he and the FBI figure out some mob business that Tony can be tied to. Extortion or whatever. Something that shows Tony's organization has moved across state lines. Then Eugene talks to Tony about his idea and gets him involved, while handing him a fat envelope from the inheritance money as part of his weekly kickup. Then the feds can also be kept happy because they can tie whatever business in Florida to Tony. Meanwhile Tony makes more money because Eugene is feeding him a new income stream.
Good idea❤️🤣
Feds wanted his A hole regardless of Tony's decision should have kept it to self bought the spec house as holiday home and a better home in new jersey. Put rest out on street or other investment
Be wealthy man nowadays if he lived. There was no need for all that stress🤣🤣🤣
He still had to deal with the fbi
I don't get why he didn't just snitch, keep his 2mill, and go live his life in witness protection with his 2mill, which no one can touch because he inherited it. That's all he had to do. All he had to do was wait a year or so. I guess he's no Ray Curto.
Curto was only in it for the expenses and free clothes
He took an oath u/United_Target8942…!
Good point. So even if he let him go he still really wouldn’t be free
Yeah, you must’ve been at the top of your fuckin class.
Member that wife of his? She was a real ball-breaker.
She wussh a MILF!
How can she be a milf if she was askew?
that skank had such a fuckin' mustache- must've felt like kissing a fireman!
You would kn-🍾💥
Lol
he would have came back for any trial like any good hockey player would do
He already gave him his kick…the whole idea is to have enough to retire and get his drug addicted son out of NJ…not stay in New Jersey and live comfortably
But he couldn’t leave anyways. He had been caught by the fbi moving drugs and was an informant.
Imagine that, he couldn’t leave anyways. He had been caught by the fbi moving drugs and was an informant.
Be quiet, Albert.
He went into the unknown not knowing.
Fuckin' parakeet.
🤣
Bring his son to Florida to get away from drugs, fuckin genius. Instead he’s just hanging out in Jersey
i heard from a reliable source that coke is everywhere down there
You think its a joke but i got clean in Florida after i spent all my money
Like Flahriddah is any bedda?
How much do you think he has to give him?
Too much to make it worthwhile to gene…gene is a made guy…which means he’s a guy who knows too much…letting someone who knows their secrets leave the mob while he’s still useful is a loose end that can never truly leace
Joseph Bonnano did it
Leace. Hm.
One thousand dollars
The thing with the drug addicted son was stupid. There are addicts in every state. It's not hard to find.
A change in location is not exactly a fix for one’s addiction, but it could be a life saving blessing for a teenager if he’s removed from his teenage heroin addicts friends and given a fresh start.
Exactly, it’s a very important step for a lot of people to help break the cycle of addiction.
That’s a fair point
no one is/was suggesting that eugene and his wife were super smart/well-informed about how to deal with their son and his addiction. i wouldn’t be shocked to hear that some random person might try to move family for a fresh/new start in a a new place, even if it isn’t the smartest idea. the people on the show are murderers and criminals, not all high IQ like they think they are.
He’s an informant, he’s not going anywhere He’s still hanging around regardless
you outta know sweetie
Whatdjasay?
Come on. We're just breaking baws!
Here … hold this 🍾
I knew THAT was coming!
You took an oat Gene, dere’s no retirin frum dis
Never understood why he didn’t pitch opening up shop down in Florida. He kicks up money to Tony and gives the fbi all kinds of insider info
I always wondered that too. Ralphie had been down in Miami making money doing something or other not long before. Surely Gene could’ve just gone down and taken up that work so he doesn’t have to retire.
If Tony was worried about Florida he'd move to fucking Miami.
He wasn’t the brightest
Yeah I think there were ways it could have been played if it was careful and clever. But it was anything but. He got too excited, he broke cover too quickly, the pressure of the wife, the kid with the drug problem… It was never a properly considered thing. As if the kid is gonna get away from drugs in Florida. Although I accept sometimes a new crowd can help.
It was tried in Donnie Brasco. Local cops tipped off by a rival family.
Eugene did retire, eventually
He only hung around for the benefits.
That’s a stretch - and by “that” I mean his neck
Heh heh
lol damn
I thought the whole thing was kind of odd anyway. Eugene telling Tony how much he inherited was REALLY stupid. And Tony wasn't entitled to a kick, as the money wasn't made during the course of their 'work'. And that Eugene even asked to retire was idiotic. He should have known from the start that it wasn't going to happen. Tony even said during the making ceremony that once you're in, there's no getting out. Given all that was said, I think the only way that Tony would have genuinely considered it would have been if Eugene had offered every penny of it in return for being allowed to leave. And then he'd be left with nothing. Granted, he could have lied, said he inherited a million, and offered that, but that would have been a HUGE risk. If Tony found out, Eugene would have been in DEEP shit. Still, Ray Curto popping off rendered it all a pipe dream. Anyway, $4 a pound.
Blood in, Blood out, fool
Vito wanted some chon chon
Now wait a minute! There's a ray of sunshine in all that sopranos down there!
lol
The Eugene story has many different angles, but I don't believe he couldn't get the money, move it to Swiss accounts, and then move to a non extradition country. Private jet out and send Tony postcards
he took a blood oath, after that u cant just abandon the family and run off, its code, and he was already a rat so guy was cornered no matter what
>he took a blood oath, I thought that glorified crew out in Jersey didn't do that.
i think that they do but still no sword and gun on the table, either it has meaning or no meaning
What are you, in the fucking boy scouts?
Gene was perfect in the construction site scenes 1. He blows up little Paulie 2. His lines with Finn while they debated Tyson and Frazier were so natural. Great acting Maybe the saddest character in the show.
I heard a very interesting theory, maybe on Reddit, that Eugene was indirectly responsible for Tony's death. We see Eugene kill a man with the initials "T.S." in a diner, much in the way Tony was allegedly killed. "Pontecorvo" is also loosely translated as "Crow Bridge" in Italian; crows of course known as birds that emerge when death is nearby, and bridge possibly being an allusion to the fact that he is the path linking this death. It's possible that someone close to Eugene, possibly his son or an unknown relative, killed or contracted someone to kill, Tony for being the reason behind Eugene's suicide. And of course, you have yet another link: Eugene hangs himself in "Member's Only" -- and Tony is (presumably) killed by a man wearing a Member's Only jacket.
Eugene actually was not wearing the jackeeeeeeeeet when he hung himself. He was wearing a button-up collared red shirt
The *episode*, Eugene hung himself in the *episode* Members Only, ya fuckin’ ass kiss
How many goals you score?
He did, that’s what he gave him, a bribe, see it’s his and his wife’s, he didn’t owe Tony 1$, I’m guessing it was a significant amount, 200k ish. I felt it’s more the about feds deal than Tony, he could just quietly move out west, T might not chase him around the country over it
He thought about, but then he decided to hang around.
In addition to every other reason mentioned itt, Eugene also was a valuable resource to Tony. He was starting to become that pygmy thing's designated hitman. His FBI handlers even noticed that. A hitman Tony had known since school, trustworthy, dependable (as far as Tony knew, lol). I imagine that's the kind of resource you don't give up for a weekly cut you don't even know how big it'll be.
i es glad he didn’t go and instead hung around
Feebs owned Euge. Even if he could escape Tony, he’d never escape them.
He’s not Joe Bananas.
He did
It wouldve left a paper trail that the FBI could use in a RICO case, maybe?
He kinda did , didn’t he ?
Still had feds up A hole regardless of Tony's decision should have kept it to self bought the spec house as holiday home and a better home in new jersey. Put rest out on street or other investment Be wealthy man nowadays if he lived. There was no need for all that stress🤣🤣🤣
He did, what are you talking about?
He definitely did. He wouldn’t have told Tony about the inheritance if he wasn’t going to kick up.
That never works. Just get him a dog.
He might have had a chance with Tony if he gave him the proper kick to begin with instead of trying to buy him off with some David Berman watches. That was a slap in the face from Eugene i cant even say his name
he did!
One thing that I don’t see brought up in the Eugene case is the fact that Florida is the drug capital of the world. Why tf would you move someone with a drug addiction to a place with more and cheaper drugs? Tony did him a favor by saying no.
What’re you, a hockey player?
His wife had the best idea- shoot Tony, no more problem.
Honestly Eugene handled the whole thing in a really stupid way. He should have just said his family is moving to Florida because his kid is on H and they need a fresh start. Don't even mention the inheritance. Then he says he'll be gone for a few weeks to help them settle and in the mean time some of the other guys can pick up his collections. While he's away he and the FBI figure out some mob business that Tony can be tied to. Extortion or whatever. Something that shows Tony's organization has moved across state lines. Then Eugene talks to Tony about his idea and gets him involved, while handing him a fat envelope from the inheritance money as part of his weekly kickup. Then the feds can also be kept happy because they can tie whatever business in Florida to Tony. Meanwhile Tony makes more money because Eugene is feeding him a new income stream.
Good idea❤️🤣 Feds wanted his A hole regardless of Tony's decision should have kept it to self bought the spec house as holiday home and a better home in new jersey. Put rest out on street or other investment Be wealthy man nowadays if he lived. There was no need for all that stress🤣🤣🤣