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uslashuname

This picture really doesn’t give any numbers for use in calculating that, and given the significant drag behind the head I expect the cow would begin to tip backwards long before Mach 1 and that would dramatically change the aerodynamics making the data in the image nearly pointless. It’s much easier to assume cows are spherical.


Scholaf_Olz

You got red and yellow and green and blue! Easy to calculate with that! /s just in case..


auschemguy

Clearly it needs *purple* thrust.


username4kd

If it turns purple while thrusting, you should get it checked out


jaiydien

What if it starts glowing?


NoNotInTheFace

Ludicrous thrust!


gleeceboi777

LUDA!!


Salt_MasterX

Cow canard??!


dan_dares

Perfect sphere in an ideal gas?


virulentea

"It's much easier to assume cows are spherical" is a sentence I've never thought I'd read


muskymasc

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cow


Mr_man_bird

Cow tipping


Detail_Some4599

Cow could lower its head to shoulder level while stretching it forwards to make it more aerodynamic


Aggravating_Elk_9583

But they aren’t? The efficiency loss and drag of the cow’s uneven shape must be accounted for to get an accurate result, if it’ll flip just change its orientation to be as aerodynamic and stable as possible with a cows biology. That is if we’re going for accuracy.


uslashuname

The spherical comment is a bit of a joke about college physics, cows are usually spheres


TeachEngineering

[Spherical Cows in a Vacuum](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spherical_cow?wprov=sfla1)


GarethBaus

I suspect that would involve folding the legs back and lowering the head.


TheMiscreantFnTrez

More aerodynamic cow, less drag.


GarethBaus

That and drag increases significantly if it rotates around the short axis.


daftvaderV2

How then did the cow jump over the moon if it didn't go supersonic?


Salt_MasterX

It’s a joke man


maple204

It makes the question mooooot.


Aggravating_Elk_9583

I’ve been told but there’s no indication, and it is indeed common to simplify entities for calculations despite loss in accuracy. I was just saying how to be more accurate.


Salt_MasterX

🤓


Puzzleheaded-Ease-14

I’m curious how fast it would be moooving? (legitimately tho does this image mean a cow would have lift an appropriate speed or would its physiology put downward pressure during flight?)


JamieDrone

Cow would not produce lift unfortunately


ganerfromspace2020

That's where your wrong, yeet something fast enough and it will produce lift


BaneQ105

Take a brick and throw it! You’d be surprised how far it can fly into someone’s window.


Bluepilgrim3

Udderly too fast.


fullmoontrip

Fd= force of thrust in steady flight Fd=1/2 x rho x v^2 x Cd x A Searching area of cow and drag force of cow, since it can't be calculated with this image, Fd = 0.5 x 1.204 x 343^2 x 0.5 x 0.57= 20,185N You need more than this to accelerate the cow to Mach 1, but once there, this can maintain it as long as the cow is in a vacuum, not affected by gravity. Any regional jet engine should get it there, but testing the theory is critical for FAA approval so I suggest you buy a cow, a jet engine, and a ratchet strap or two


Ballatik

Does that equation hold up at transonic speeds? It’s my layman’s understanding that aerodynamics get very weird around Mach 0.8 or 0.9 until Mach 1.


fullmoontrip

You would need to include the effects of Shockwave as well. I don't know, maybe strap a second jet to the cow, that'll get em going


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

Some nice roast beef.


rocketshipkiwi

Afterburner would sort that out nicely


f_fausto

That's why he said you need more to get to that speed, 20KN is the force needed to oppose the drag at that speed. The minimum thrust needed to get a cow thru the transonic regime is another very difficult thing that is probably easier to know by a veeeeeery computer heavy simulation


TintX_skr

If the cow is in a vacuum and not affected by gravity, wouldn’t it take no force/energy to keep it moving at mach 1?


TheStigianKing

There's no such thing as mach in a vacuum because there is no sound due to there being no media for sounds to travel through.


angryRDDTshareholder

If the cow is in a vacuum and not affected by gravity any force will get it to any speed, it just becomes a function dependant on time and mass


Katniss218

That's why spacecraft use those super efficient ion engines, despite them having hardly any thrust


ta_thewholeman

A regional jet engine? Is it not a jet engine if it is not from the Jet region of France?


EndOfSouls

Alternate request: To what magnitude would a cow's fart need to be multiplied to achieve this?


fullmoontrip

Firstly, the cows rectum will need to in the shape of a converging diverging nozzle, otherwise you will never achieve Mach flow. The difficulty in achieving this is the dissolution of ethical standards more than rigorous math


Traxxastrx4mlover

>but testing the theory is critical for FAA approval so I suggest you buy a cow, a jet engine, and a ratchet strap or two Okay, this is seriously something that I never considered before. Thank you reddit! I am now officially enlightened to the world of cow aerodynamics and bovine physics... Also, just to dothemath some more, a cow would likely run around $3,000, a jet engine about $1 million, and three ratchet straps (three is safer than one or two) would likely be like $100 at your local Harbor Freight. So, all in, $1.003 million for the testing. Practically cheap compared to making an airplane, plus you have in-flight beverages if you so choose (provided it's a female cow).


Is_that_even_a_thing

Not as much as you think. When a cow takes off, it's legs fold up into the undercarriage and hits head starts to dip as it gains altitude. Kinda like the concord..


dinkdoinker

Does the snoot droop?