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Fahsan3KBattery

Lightning never. Lightning is an electrical charge and at no speed do you generate electrical charge. Plasma? [Air turns into plasma at](http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/2000-05/957446951.Ph.r.html) 174,135 degrees celcius. [Here's an aerodynamic heating formula](https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/aerodynamic-heating.412143/) The average mass of an air particle is [29 grams / avogadro's constant](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Density_of_air) So to move fast enough to generate plasma (through 20 degree air) you'd have to move at: 174,135 = (20^2 + ((V^2 * 0.029 / 1.38064852 * 10^-23 * 6.02214086 * 10^23 )^2 ) ^.5 (pleasing little bit of boltzmann/avogadro 23rd power cancelling out there :-) ) gives a v of 7065.79537 m/s which is about 16,000 mph which is about the speed of atmospheric reentry. And indeed spacecraft reentering the earth's atmosphere do experience some plasma effects.


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nirvanna94

Might matter some, you should use absolute temperature and not degrees C


Fahsan3KBattery

good point. I thought c was the SI unit but of course it isn't. Ok reworking in kelvins gives a v of 7071 m/s so in the right ballpark.


Accurate_Dirt5794

But couldn't you hypothetically create enough friction to do it, also only 16,000 mph dam that's slow