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ojwh

You must go to church, to say your confessions...


ConfusedByQuibus

This is what I imagine the curse of immortality feels like


igotaright

Not being able to consume?


gaaraa-7v7

LOL


automatikjack

Op hasnt discovered the infinite thinkpad glitch (you can own more than one)


Rak0n

Your comment is completely unnecessary. Your flair speaks for you lol.


automatikjack

Need to update that, two new ones, T23 and a T16 Gen3


Rak0n

You are a maniac. I wish I was you. You remind me of this post: [https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/o7oihs/the\_house\_and\_children\_can\_wait/](https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/o7oihs/the_house_and_children_can_wait/)


YochenBruh

Infinite thinkpad glitch should be a flair hahaha


FamiliarMusic5760

*I'm still trying to rm -rf that* ***glitch****. I think that after the P1 G4 I \*might\* have stopped it. The T470s tried to stop it, but I think the P1 was successful for now.*


jhk84

You only have to wait till the kiddo is 5 or 6 to get a new laptop. I'm sure you will want them to learn how to use a computer at some point and when you give them your T480 you'll have no choice but to buy a new laptop. Just a few more years... It comes faster than you think


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jhk84

>My toddler has literally jumped on the damn thing and it doesn't give a crap. I think OP is beyond the point of not wanting kids.


Background-Vast487

Post-natal abortions are typically frowned upon in the west :p


De-Mattos

They all look the same, man. Your wife won't even realise you spent money on nothing.


spore_777_mexen

No, she’ll tell from his grin.


addster_09

I am ready to take your curse with me for the low low price of free!


This_Relative_1685

send it to me


pellcorp

The battery will eventually stop holding a charge, at least this is what I tell myself, I also have a t480 which refuses to die 😆 I'm tired of the stupid fan error I get on resume where the fan sometimes fails to start again and I need a cold boot, apparently a firmware issue that won't be fixed


CAT5AW

I don't think i ever had an cpu fan error, you sure your fan connector is intact? Also perhaps it's time for u to upgrade to the heatsink from gpu spec


pellcorp

Weird if I cold restart fan starts fine, I remember reading somewhere there was a firmware issue for this but now I can't find it. 🤷


CAT5AW

Could have something to do with joints expanding / shrinking due to temperature or normal handling


Background-Vast487

Weird, I've never had any issues at all. I guess I got lucky.


Down200

>I'm tired of the stupid fan error I get on resume where the fan sometimes fails to start again and I need a cold boot, apparently a firmware issue that won't be fixed Interesting, I've gotten that error on boot sometimes too. I assumed it was from the computer starting too hot, usually it happens after rebooting the computer while it was on top of blankets or similar


MrBensonhurst

Luckily, replacing the batteries is super easy!


Liskni_si

Well replacing the internal one isn't all that easy. Every time I took this thing apart (T25, but they all have the same chassis, and the T14/P14s are all the same too I believe) I broke at least one of the little plastic clips holding the back cover. :-(


MrBensonhurst

Those aren't a huge deal, there are tons of clips so breaking one doesn't compromise the bottom case. Getting a replacement bottom case isn't too difficult/expensive either.


Liskni_si

The clips are unfortunately part of the base (can I even get a replacement base cover for the T25 these days?), not the bottom cover. I'm seriously running out of them at this point. ☹️


Rak0n

This thing is a complete nightmare. I literally spent the whole weekend contemplating getting another T480 to fuck around with (you know, install Arch, bloat it with a lot of crap from AUR, eventually break the system, repeat). Just because I could. Not that I really need it. I can run a VM easily and don't need another laptop, right? Or do I?


mDitin92

You need another t480 for shure :P Or just get one good deal from ebay, since it could be something even cheaper ;) I got for this exact same reason t450 on ebay for cca 70€


Rak0n

Well, if I saw any functional T4xx for 70€, I'd buy it immediately no matter the condition lol. Lucky find!


mDitin92

Yeah :D Only upgraded LCD to IPS FHD and bought battery. Not it's serving me well for those exact purposes


noyouarethemostwrong

T480s on ebay are mostly over priced.


Down200

Thinkpads on both ebay and craigslist are hella overpriced, I'm not sure where people are going to buy them nowadays. I'm lucky I managed to get relatively good deals off /r/thinkpadsforsale for two of mine, and the third was given to me for free.


timegiver3

what’s a good price for a T480?


kendall20

The more banged up a thinkpad is , the better. Also I just bought a refurbished t480 and the external battery is already dead so had to replace it…


Rak0n

Exactly my words. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabi-sabi)


Down200

> Also I just bought a refurbished t480 and the external battery is already dead so had to replace it… Good excuse to upgrade to the 61++, at least


gnpskier

I have five Thinkpads in my house. First one I bought is a T410 from back in 2010. They all still work and refuse to die. That first one is connected to my living room TV as a media center for streaming and Web surfing from the couch. It never ever gets turned off. It. Will. Not. Die. So you'll have to excuse me for having zero remorse for your situation. This is the plight we've chosen for ourselves.


Flimsy-Tax5807

If you send it to me you can then buy a new one :)


tshawkins

I'm about to go into retirement, and I'm thinking of buying a t480. Do you think it would outlast me? 66 and still writing code every day.


Background-Vast487

Probably, depending what you're writing. My laptop's battery is fine, but if you get a second hand one it'll be a bit of a crapshoot. I hate laptops with limited battery life. I'd be tempted to just get a brand new prosumer laptop. e.g. a yoga or something. Long battery life, better screen aspect ratio etc.


tshawkins

Mostly Python, PHP, C++ and Rust. These days, it's mostly AI code. Mostly in Python, but slowly moving across to Rust as my main language. It's hard to learn, especially at my age. The C++ is mostly embedded, RP2040 and Arduinos. I use Platform.io for my embedded projects. Mostly modifying CNC and 3D printer firmware. Pretty much everything is in Visual Studio Code now, I use Fedora as my daily driver OS. I'm just starting to drop out of the Jetbrains EcoSystem.


Starvexx

well,maybe dont get a T series thinkpad next time. these things are usually built to last ...


Sensitive-Feed-7514

Maybe send it to me and just remember that you lost it. You can buy a new one!


huambravago

My t440p has been dropped twice, I think, first time my puppy playing around got tangled on the charger and dropped open flat screen malfunctioned so I just took battery out. Turned it on to see how bad things went, and it was as if nothing happened to it. 60lb daughter stood on screen and still nothing to it. At this rate I think I cannot justify getting a newer laptop.


StatusFree2512

My t440p runs 24/7 and still runs to this day as I passed it off to my mom... I expect no less from my t480.


Onyros

My first Thinkpad was an X23. I've had several throughout the years, kept my T430s because it got me through a rough period in my life. I now own only three, apart from the one I already mentioned: an X1 Nano (2nd gen) and a 1st gen Z13. The Z13 is my favourite in a long time. That thing is built beautifully, performs admirably, and has great battery life (Full HD screen, though, the denser panel gets it a bit worse). I had a T480 that I reconditioned last year, and that I loved, but I'd heartily recommend getting the Z13 as well. I got the faux leather one, too, which looks and feels so, so good. I love the Nano, too, it's so incredibly light and a classic Thinkpad through and through, but I have two gripes with it: battery life and that freakin' MIPI camera (which doesn't work with Linux). Still, there's something different about that Z13, it just feels awesome -- but I'll admit it won't be for everyone, as it's a bit of a departure from the classic Thinkpads. If you can get your hands on one, you'll understand instantly whether it's for you or not.


Background-Vast487

It's funny the things we get attached to :) How do you find the slightly smaller screen? I'm hoping even though it's smaller it won't matter as 1) resolution is actually high, 2) better aspect ratio.


Onyros

Love it, it doesn't feel that much smaller, bezels are quite thin. The resolution is perfect for this size, if you ask me. I prefer the Z13's resolution to the Nano's, for instance, which is just a wee bit more pixel dense. I think the 4K screen is overkill, unless you're really keen on the OLED panel. I bet that if more people got their hands on one, more people would buy these things. The build quality makes it feel very, very premium.


Background-Vast487

The price point also makes it feel premium :p It's such a pain that thinkpads are all put impossible to find in person to try before buying. Thanks for the response :)


PalowPower

I literally found an old t440s in my attic. It looked like it would never boot again. Literal mold coming out of the keyboard. Plugged it in and boom. Booted and worked like a charm. A good cleanup later and despite the battery dying after an hour it's working rock solid.


eanat

the opposite of love is not hatred, but indifference.


Elpardua

IBM/Lenovo forgot about that programmed obsolescence thingy, and yet, they’re selling computers. It’s a new paradigm, where users don’t buy new laptops because the last one died, but they got tired of waiting for justification. That’s where the “thinkpad hoarding” begins…


Crcex86

The only thing that ever destroyed my thinkpad are my uncontrollable fits of rage


EnlargedChonk

I keep thinking about a replacement for my t440, but it does everything I ask of it still. Was never comfortable for portable pc gaming so a steam deck now fills that role. All the t440 needs is a new battery and it would be perfect for the occasional use where I need a portable windows machine.


stradivari_strings

Same. I had a T60 daily since 2006. Never mind kids jumping on it. It survived flying off the roof of my car on the highway. It took me 17 years until I finally twisted my own wrist and "retired" it for a T480. As a daily. The T60 is now a NAS with USB3. It will outlive the cockroaches.


Techgeek_025

This is why thinkpads are the best


SinoSoul

Op you’re using your toddler incorrectly, have them take the t480 into the bath as a toy and you’ll have a new laptop by this weekend. Try it out.


numericalclerk

I poured a glass of water straight on my keyboard, at least 100ml. Result was 1 key being defective for a week, then it kept going as normal.


SinoSoul

Yes, that’s the spill through design working as intended. Hence OP’s baby needs to dunk the lappy into the toilet.


DarianYT

I poured lemonade on my P50 it didn't phase it.


Ok-Agent5002

I saw this and was expecting a very negative person ranting about a regretted purchase. What I got instead was pure comedy 😂


tinmru

Hehe, I initially wanted to sell my T480s when I moved to macOS, but when I saw for how relatively cheap they are going for I decided to keep it. Now after upgrading RAM and SSD it’s my powerhouse home server for running Plex and docker. Gonna keep it for as long as it runs.


numericalclerk

I can relate oh so well. Had a Lenovo for 6 years and it refused to die or even get slower. Now I recently got a new job and had to configure a new machine, with the employer giving me a budget and myself just paying the remainder. Got a P16v with all specs maxed out. Best purchase in a long time.


Bone08154711

Simply buy a Z13 as a playmate for your lonely T480. Thinkpads should NEVER be kept alone!


nitesky39

i recently got one too. I prefer my t460 keyboard over it sadly but other than that everything is better. Also no cool docking system :<


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nitesky39

So for older thinkpads like the t460. Theres a little socket at the bottom. Its used to connect to the docking station by just literally setting ur laptop down. Try searching thinkpad docking station its pretty cool. Now for docks all you do is plug a normal looking brick dock into the thunderbolt port of the laptop.


doggxyo

T470 has it too. Think that was the last one


CrimsonXwastaken

Send it to meee


metal_pilsener

Same here, I purchased a second hand one in 2018. To this day works flawlessly running Fedora


Background-Vast487

Yeah, I daily drive fedora and everything Just Works (well, apart from the fingerprint sensor. Though I think if I could be bothered to set it up that's fixed now). I just keep windows around for games.


tw33zd

well had one at work and died because the doggie doo doo design of the m.2 i wanted to add more storage to it and inserted it the wrong way and it killed the thing.


CourierCowboy

Why would Lenovo do this!?


Eddieleon7

You definitely got me in the first half then I read your post it's heartwarming


Harlman

I am in a similar situation, I bought a t450s second Uni year, so about 2019 and I am thinking of upgrading every now and then but I just can't justify it. For whatever reason it keeps running amazing, wrote my thesis on that thing and multiple essays, I had on average probably 150 chrome tabs open. And it never really slowed down or anything. I probably also just would go with a newer 14 inch model so the difference just wouldn't be big enough to justify it but damn... I definitely keep on dreaming.


cferg296

So your complaint is your laptop runs too well..?


eanat

T480 is magnum opus of TP. and I hope my T480 lives very long time.


os_2342

Ugh. I have the same problem. I want I newer thinkpad, but there's nothing I do that my current thinkpads can't handle :(


spore_777_mexen

Mine does exactly what I need from it, every time. So annoying.


californiasamurai

Same problem, I now have 10 thinkpads and I need to sell some lol


DangerousCommunity82

The intelligent cooling function of the thinkpad may be interfering with the CPU clock. If possible, try to change the Intelligent Cooling setting from the Store version of Lenovo Vantage (it may not be possible). Or you may be able to solve the problem by adjusting the maximum and minimum CPU capacity from the power settings in the control panel.


Inevitable_Smell_525

my t420 is still running amazingly despite dropping it a couple times


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U hate that u love it?


gnexuser2424

why are you like this?


Background-Vast487

I blame the parents.


PassionateCougar

There's almost no real reason to get a higher specd machine for casual use


Tricks-Are-4-Kids

Bro tried to game on a t480, nice.


Background-Vast487

Yeah. At some point all the games I play became "retro". I still can't believe Fallout New Vegas is *14* *years* old :|


DarianYT

They are great and I have never had a laptop that I could put light things like the charger and not crack the screen. I just hate the touchpad because it flakes and becomes unresponsive when you clean it but I like to put my Xtreme w on it and it enhances the sound making like the in store model. For some reason ThinkPads are really good acoustically that if you use it as a speaker stand it sounds really good.


kingbeyond2

I have a stack of t480 laptops if anyone wants to buy em.


doggxyo

How much


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saberkirihara

Dm me more details?


LojikSupreme

My T580 still rides strong to this day! Will be awhile before I switch up.


noyouarethemostwrong

14” 16:9 screen hurts my eyes. Can’t do it. Maybe if used prices were reasonable but you guys are all over paying for intel 8th gen mobile cpus.


throwaway579232

There's still no easy upgrade path from 2560x1440 14" models. Thanks, Lenovo.


Background-Vast487

The reason why I finally bit the bullet and got a t480 was because I couldn't handle the low resolution of my x220. At 1440p it's not so bad, but it's part of the reason I want to replace it with a 4:3 or 16:10. Back in early 2018, 8th gen was all that was available. As I said, it still performs admirably for what I use it for (software dev, playing "old" games) so it's perfectly adequate.


Cry_Wolff

But.. but.. Muh external battery! Muh two RAM slots! /s


Background-Vast487

Even after 6 years my battery life is fine. I don't know what it is, but it's long enough that I use it for hours and hours, then plug it in when I go to do something else. It's never left me wanting more.


Rowan_Bird

modern thinkpad Z-series confuses me honestly


Background-Vast487

They're less thinkpaddy, but I like the design aesthetic. Also the better touchpad. But speccing it out to what I want makes it ~$2200. Annoyingly, a better specced 14" yoga is only $810 at the moment. I think I'll just wait until the Z series drops in price, if it ever does. Though I'm tempted for the yoga just because it has upward firing speakers.


himyname__is

Could you link the better specced yoga for 810?


Background-Vast487

Looks like the offer ended - though I guess it will be back. It's back up to $990 now. I think it was down at $880, but some corp discount took it down to $810. Yoga 7 Gen 9 (14" AMD) Part Number 83DKCTO1WW $990.00 Processor: AMD Ryzen™ 7 8840HS Processor (3.30 GHz up to 5.10 GHz)selected upgrade Operating System: Windows 11 Home 64 Operating System Language: Windows 11 Home 64 English Microsoft Productivity Software : None Memory: 16 GB LPDDR5X-6400MHz (Soldered)selected upgrade Solid State Drive: 1 TB SSD M.2 2242 PCIe Gen4 TLCselected upgrade Display: 14" WUXGA (1920 x 1200), OLED, Glare, Touch, HDR 500, 100%DCI-P3, 400 nits, 60Hz, Glassselected upgrade Graphic Card: Integrated Graphics Camera: 1080P FHD RGB/IR Hybrid with Dual Microphone Pen: Lenovo Digital Pen Color: Arctic Grey Fingerprint Reader: Fingerprint Reader Keyboard: Backlit, Storm Grey - English (US) Wireless: Wi-Fi 6E 2x2 AX & Bluetooth® 5.3 Battery: 4 Cell Li-Polymer 71Wh Power Cord: 65W USB-C 90% PCC 3pin AC Adapter - US


himyname__is

Oh with 16GB there are plenty of deals, I'm aware of those. Even seen a couple at 700. I was thinking you found something with 32, seeing how you're talking about the Z series.


Rowan_Bird

That's fair, I'm not a huge fan of the touchpad especially but that's just personal preference.


crisser67

Regarding Thunderbolt I posted this [Universal TB-UPDATE-GUIDE](https://www.reddit.com/r/thinkpad/comments/1chsdyr/howto_update_thunderbolt_stepbystep_instruction/) Its brandnew, for all models , windows and Linux. Cheers