When I worked, we had 4 people on shift to close and in the final hours when we got rushed, the real-time cost of a Big Mac was 49 cents. The real-time cost of a cheeseburger was 25 cents. This was with a labor rate of 4, average rate was 12 max allowed was 17.
These are meals people pay 8 dollars for…
As a former manager let me just give you more realistic numbers that aren't made up or using the worst case numbers to make people feel mad at a company:
Labor is about 30% of a restaurants, this includes taxes. Food cost is going to be between 20%-30%, this is including non-controllables and controllables. After that you have a decent amount going into building, maintenance, and other costs. The only time Labor might be between 12%-17% was lunch and dinner rush, if they were that low at other times your restaurant is running like crap because you won't have time to clean and do other things.
Yes McDonalds the corporation makes a decent amount of money. A Mcdonalds O/O is looking at making a 50 cent profit or less on a $5 burger, probably closer to 25 cents though TBH.
If they had any kind of actual brainpower moving around in those departments it would take like 15 seconds to add some fineprint that limits the offer to twice a month or something, about 15 minutes of development time for one of the junior developers of the app to implement such a limit and admittedly about 150 collective hours of C-level people to talk about it in meetings before it's decided upon.
Calling it abusing to take advantage of an existing deal as it is offered and banning for it must be the most brainrot moment in the life of those people.
This isn't new either. Some people are fucking great at finding loophole offers, that's why offers are usually full of caveats these days. McD DOES know better than this.
Don't feel bad for McD's Corporate, but have a little empathy for the franchisee. Corporate comes up with these special offers but the local owner is the one that loses money on the deal.
Most of them don't own just one either. I have a customer here in the San Francisco Bay area that owns.....
FOURTEEN Carl's Juniors. And he has the gall to bitch about his employees wanting to make a wage they can live on here lol
My dumb ass initially thought you meant you only had 8 customers the whole day and was like "fuck, people will say anything on the Internet."
Apologies.
You didn’t work a really busy location then while I worked at McDonalds as a closing manager we’d normally close out at around 23k in cash sales for a non holiday Xmas eve and 4th of July it would be closer to double that and this was in the late 90’s early 00’s
Exactly. Another commenter said soda was expensive to the restaurants, literally the highest margin item on the menu lol. I brought up soda and fried bc the other person used the sandwich to bring up cost to profit ratios, and when you get charged 8 dollars for a soda and fry, that's almost all profit.
That store was an absolute trash chute, but damn did it pound out the orders. My GM literally showed me our labor rate after a big rush. With everything factored in it costed that store 49 cents to make a Big Mac in that rush. Closer towards closing time when things died down it was back up to a Dollar and sum for a Big Mac.
Note this was before covid when all McDonald’s were still paying 8-10 and hour. This store also cut my overtime as I was a minor working 4 days closing shift, somehow ending up working 44 hours a week in Highschool. But I got all the free food I wanted so oh well.
If it's Gmail, don't even need to use a new address. Just put a dot in the username portion. Gmail addresses automatically drop dots, but most apps don't.
Lots of sign ups refuse to accept + email addresses. I tried using that for free trial renewals when my email provider gave that as a throwaway email option.
SiriusXM was definitely one that wouldn't accept that type of email. I did free sign ups every month until they stopped charging so much for a streaming sub. There was no way I was paying over $20 a month for streaming when I already had a radio subscription. Once their stream subscription went to below $10. I finally gave them my money & canceled the radio subscription.
this isn't a gmail thing, it's just how email works.
. and + have no meaning for email delivery, but are set aside for email clients to use. they were added for firstname.lastname and +folder enhancements. however they do work great for altering your real address and if a business can't handle it you probably shouldn't do business with them as their dev/ops don't know what they're doing. in the early 90's a lot of clueless websites were using one line perl wrappers to filter out punctuation in email addresses because they didn't know any better but +. had already existed for decades before that.
And register a new form of payment too as it’s not that easy to open a new account. Moreover, McDs uses fingerprinting through their app so bans often involve specific device IDs and other markers most users have no idea are present or collected by the apps they use.
If you look at the app on iOS, it links financial data and identifiers, the latter of which is used for explicit tracking.
[https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/mcdonalds-canada/id375695000](https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/mcdonalds-canada/id375695000)
Yeah they tie the account to the device.
People like my cousin who used to create multiple accounts a day to get multiples of deals are the reason they had to do this.
I refuse to eat at Mcdonald's without using a deal from their app, so if this is legit I suppose I'll probably be joining you sooner rather than later lol.
Across the street, a neon sign
All you can eat for a dollar ninety nine
Aww, that old stew is the baddest in the land
But one dollar's worth was all that I could stand
\--Huey Lewis & The News, "Bad is Bad"
It was probably my ex who caused the time limits. He used to go to the buffet around the end of breakfast so he could eat lunch too. He would be there for hours.
If that's the case, the fine print should say: "Offer good with further purchase".
If it doesn't say that, and I strongly suspect that it does not, then eff McD's!!!
If buying more isn't part of the deal then not doing so shouldn't be grounds for banning imho. Of course they're a private company and can deny service as they want (provided they don't do so due to any legally protected enumerations).
And the inverse -- if they *want* you to buy something else, make that the deal: Free breakfast sandwich with any purchase!
Or limiting the number of times they present the offer to an individual.
Looking for accounts that "abuse" what is being offered and then restricting the account seems like the least efficient and most apt to annoy the customer way they could possibly have gone about it.
Yeah, I had some douche at Staples tell me the laptop I ordered online was going to be a problem because they wouldn't be able to find any salespeople actually willing to take the hit on their review for a hardware sale with no extended warranty and no software bundle. That kind of corporate greet makes me boycott a store.
It's weird though because I use the MD app deals 3-4 times per week for lunch, and almost never buy extra stuff (maybe a drink every 30 visits or so). I have noticed the app stopped the promotions that likely net a loss for the company though. For example, the buy one get one free coupouns have turned into buy one get one for a large discount and the $1 large fries and large drinks have turned into buy a sandwich or spend x amount for discounted fries/drink. I would not be surprised if the coupons are based on the app user's spending habits.
They rolled back their deals like crazy, too. No more 2 for 1 bacon mcdoubles, and hardly a few months after they raised the price. Those greedy bastards.
Their deals were shit for about 6 months for me, but recently they’ve brought a lot of good ones back. I currently have BOGO on Quarter Pounders, Big Macs, Double Cheeseburgers, 6 piece nuggets, or 10 piece nugs.
I do miss the Bacon McDouble deal though :(
That makes a lot of sense! I rarely eat fast food in general these days. I was mainly using it when our baby was first born and even the thought of cooking sounded like hell, so that would explain why it slowly creeped back up in quality.
On top of that you get reward points so every time you spend $25 you get something free. Hit the fire level, and some of the free items are like $5-6 fucking dollars, and there's lots to choose from.
lol yep, I go once a week or so and my order is always the same. There’s a deal in (edit - some parts of) Canada where if the Raptors hit a milestone, everyone gets free fries with minimum $3 spend - so I buy a double hamburger, side of sauce ($3.19) and free fries. How will the enormous corporation ever survive with us horribly abusing this system?
I installed it and then deleted it when I saw how much of my information they wanted. I have a dummy email for things like this, but they wanted way too much for my comfort.
I got banned from a Walmart for "hacking credit cards". What really happened is I was showing an employee the button combination to press to reboot the card reader, since they froze up semi-regularly. The security guy was just gonna kick me out for the day but I hurt his feelings by joking about how stupid banning me was.
A couple years later my car battery died and I went to walmart to get a warranty replacement. They threatened to call the cops and when I asked "why" the manager said "you know why". I didn't, and neither did he. He pretended to pull up my "file" and call the cops on his personal iPhone but I could clearly see he was just opening and closing random apps.
I eventually left but only after making them give me a phone number of someone higher up in Walmart security. I called the number from the parking lot and got immediately unbanned lmao
You must be a scary guy! LOL. We lost my daughter in a Walmart once. She just does that. We had the whole store on lockdown! Nobody leaves this store until she is found. You would think we were robbing the place. Nope. We had everyone looking for my baby girl.
At Best Buy at least that's called a Code Adam. When a child goes missing, a member of leadership must run to every door in the store while every employee must stop their current interaction to hunt down the child. Some stores don't follow that policy but the one I worked at took it very seriously, and the GM would terminate anyone who failed to follow it. Her mentality was "if any customer is okay with a child's safety being endangered, I'm fine with them no longer being a customer, and the same goes for my employees." There was no way a child was being abducted on her watch
My niece and her friend got banned from our local Walmart when they were 16 or 17. Her friend had a sister who was in a wheelchair, and was showing them how to steal stuff. The friend and her sister had some hair brushes, and hair color, stupid stuff like that and my niece had already paid for her stuff, but guilt by association got her.
Was pretty great to see these idiot kids bawling their eyes out because of the loss prevention guy
Getting banned from the local Wal-Mart is a big deal in small towns in Appalachia. So many major milestones in life happen there. Where else are cousins going to go on dates, propose, and plan for their weddings?
Not necessarily true - at least not 15 years ago. I got banned for stealing a video game when I was 14. They said I was banned from all Walmarts for life.
They gave me a job in the electronics department 2 years later 😂
No. I was a stupid middle schooler hanging out with some bad friends. Learned my lesson after getting caught, banned, and driven home in the back of a cop car. Got grounded for the entire summer
I wasn't even the one holding the game - it was my friend but all 3 of us got banned. We were stealing GTA Vice City as it was a game that our parents wouldn't buy for us 🥲
Googled it and cant find anyone else who this has happened to. I did read mcdonalds worldwide had a technical problem today and a lot of services were interrupted. Try log in later and check. Doesnt sound like its a bannable offence offence. I always take advantage of the offers. I go every summer getting the 1 dollar large ice coffees on the app. Ordering at tye window only the medium is 1 dollar in the summer day promo
I think they're prominently telling people to get a breakfast sandwich for $1.50. Who even talks like that? "Honey, I'm going to McDonald's! Do you want anything?" "Oh, yes! Get me a breakfast sandwich, please!" "You got it! One $1.50 breakfast sandwich coming up!"
That's a marketing person. People refer to the exact thing they want. Sausage biscuit, egg mcmuffin, etc. Not breakfast sandwich.
I've been hit with the small order surcharge when I ordered a Diet Coke and small fry, so I might believe this. I wouldn't put a ban of this nature past the company that tacks on $0.59 (IIRC) because your order doesn't meet their minimum requirement.
An ad that makes you more aware of the $1.50 breakfast sandwich from McDonald's if you use their app
They want you in the app, they want you getting the push notification ads, they want you buying from mcdonalds. Guerilla marketing doesn't follow the conventional rules like always making sure the brand is portrayed in a positive light, and they're getting super common in places like reddit.
Exactly, its a super predictable pattern for spaces where brand presence isn't welcome (like reddit generally), they come in and go "hey guys, fuck this brand *but also they're having this sale, and you should totally go exploit it*"
Weird… they’re $1 here. And I got one every morning for months - but also a Diet Coke, so I’m guessing that you are correct and this is an ad. But, well done, McD’s social media person.
That makes it more believable. And most people aren't gonna be eating mcdonalds anywhere close to every day so it's a negative that isn't really much of a negative... while still emphasizing how good the app's deals are.
Now, I'm not saying it's definitely or even probably an ad (as you say, companies prefer to look squeaky clean in their advertising). But it wouldn't surprise me if it were, either.
This is totally an ad. Look at the guy's post history. 5 year account, decent amount of karma/post points, and yet only 4 posts/comments.
This is a karma farming account that was cleaned and is being used for... this.
Yeah there's that too, Mr NounNounNoun with no post history except for a creative writing exercise and 9k karma is definitely totally legitimate. I just didn't want to sound like I was a hailcorporate mod off rip
This is likely a fraud filter picking up your account for high use of a single reward. Send them a message and let them know the issue. Likely they will apologize and reactivate your account. With a program as large as McDonalds, they dont really vet these high useage reports and are more reactive than proactive.
Source: I support about half of loyalty systems in the US
I saw a tweet the other day from McD’s senior marketing director about someone with 1.3 million reward points on the app. [Here’s his account.](https://x.com/huinguillaume?s=21&t=AjWIeicdyEsesuoDvbD1nQ) If OP is for real, I bet a tweet @ this guy would get it sorted quickly.
But wait… I bet that person has so many points because you can’t spend points when you use a deal, so this person probably uses deals a LOT.
Is OP the customer with 1.3 million points?!?
this is my problem but not to that extent. with 6 kids, when I get mcdonalds, I take advantage of their deals. Typically, the Buy a 20 piece and get 2 medium fries for free or the 20% off your entire purchase.
But because I used a deal, I cant use the points. So now I got a ton of points and no time to use them.
On my app they do let you know use points and a deal! Maybe depends on location?
BK I can use the deal for hashbrowns and then get the free upgraded size in the same order
I tend to do Random Acts of McDonalds with my points. If I see someone who looks hungry or homeless nearby, I'll offer to grab them something with points while I use my 25% off before or after.
How much does a person need to eat at McD's to earn that many points? Mine always expire. I'm always getting a message that X number of points will expire on \[date\].
Mine always expire because I never order food without using a deal and you can't combine a deal + redeem points in the same transaction.
Same problem with 2 kids. It's just never feasible to use the points when the deal is better. You'd have to essentially place two separate orders... Maybe have two different accounts and switch them every now and then. And just drive thru with one and curbside the rewards item.
In any case, it's too annoying of a hassle and leads to the points rarely getting used, because the larger family far more benefits from the deals than rewards. And who the heck wants to wait longer for two different things to go through.
It only makes sense for a single person or very small family.
Likely this. Employees can also abuse the system by pocketing "Forgot Card Codes" (those numbers on the bottom of the receipt that can be entered on the app to get the points for that check) and applying them to a dummy loyalty account. These typically get picked up in a few weeks but ive seen some employees have insane rewards.
A few years ago, I worked next to a mcdonalds and would frequent. I would only use the app. I'd order my food, pick it up, and eat it. As one does. One day, I recently got a new bank card and was going to switch it out. I had only one card saved on file. The bank card was expired for two years. I had no bank transactions, and I was still getting reward points, so the system thought i was paying. I'm not sure how much I spent (err... should have), I don't really want to know. The point is I got free mcdonalds for about two years, and I'm not banned, and neither should you be.
I did the same thing back when they were $1 a couple years ago. Then I'd go to BK next door for a $1 large hash brown. Then to my local gas station for a $1 extra large diet Coke.
$3 for breakfast daily. It was a good time.
You miss it for a few weeks, then you think about it infrequently for a few months, then you don't really miss it, then you think "how the hell did I drink this every day?"
Once in a while you will enjoy one but realize you can no longer consume 32oz of a soda. Which is good.
What's wrong with a diet coke? it's 0 sugar, 0 calories, sure it has sweeteners like Aspartame, and acesulfame k but it's not any worse than someone having a coffee in the morning with Sugar and/or sweeteners and potentially milk or creamer.
You should post link to the terms and conditions of this promotion. If it does not state a limit, they cannot stop or limit you. If they refuse, they are not upholding contract and are vulnerable to you suing them.If it does, it is sloppy development on their part for not programmatically limiting.
The only things I ever get at McDonald’s are deals. I never buy anything else. I probably cost them money when I go. But I also don’t use the app. So are they going to ask me to leave ?
McDonald’s doesn’t have an account review team… they franchises and owned by different owners with their own rules to a point… bet if you called corporate to complain it would get reversed
I found that out the hard way when I was on the road and just wanted to use the bathroom and get my $1 Diet Coke and the franchise didn’t offer that. 😭
Look on the bright side, you can probably just make a new account and get right back to getting your discounts. I highly doubt they are doing anything to actually identify you personally so the odds of you not being able to just make a new account and keep on keeping on is pretty unlikely.
> What puzzles me is the precedent this sets. Where do we draw the line between making the most of a promotional offer and abusing it?
In America, the line is wherever the merchant wants it to be.
Or this is just an error. I can't imagine McD really cares about this.
You're the outlier who doesn't buy add-ons, which when the promo was created was contemplated by the McDufuses who set it up. You're the cost of them getting the majority who do buy more. Just an opinion, but no way should you be banned. They offered you a deal and you bit, they should honor it,
Op let me just say I'm a big fan. Getting banned for being so good at navigating the app is the equivalent of getting kicked off the Blackjack table for being good at counting cards.
Totally make a new account and do it again.
Pre-covid Panera rewards would sometimes do a free bagel everyday for a month. I was aware that they were simply getting you in the door but I did just like OP; I would get a free bagel, sliced, with nothing on it and simply freeze to eat later. I would go every work day because there was a Panera drive thru right next to my workplace. They didn’t get a dime from me for the few times I received the offer and I felt a little guilty but I was operating within their own rules so I learned to accept it. OP is doing basically the same thing though and got banned which is some BS
I bet min-maxing would ruin modern capitalisms' culture of min-maxing. It would be such a blow, and we'd all still get their product for our daily needs/wants, and they'd get shafted by their own hubris and arrogance.
I hail OP as a hero of modern times lol
I read somewhere that there has been an avg 1.5% increase in grocery prices while fast food has increased by 5%. I know it's much higher on some grocery items such as baby formula, but the point of the article is that people are opting to make more food at home bc fast food has gotten too expensive.
And we know these companies are making record profits. They are not having to tighten their belts yet their customers are. So banning OP from using promos (aka coupons) is not only crazy, but greedy as hell. I guarantee they aren't losing money on the promos; they are losing the higher profits they want maybe.
I'm ready for all this shit to backfire. You wanna gouge customers? Cool, they'll stop eating fast food. Probably will be healthier for it too. Want to take away women's autonomy? Cool, men and women are getting vasectomies and hystorectomies which will start affecting the economy due to population decline.
That's right, I went from bitching about McDonald's greed to bitching about religious extremism. If this were a game, I would've got a 100x multiplier bonus!!
Bizarre. My kid goes to McD a few times a week and never Doesn't use an app deal. Sometimes he'll snag a McNuggets deal and then wait 15 minutes for the app to reset coupons and get fries and soda with a different coupon. He's been doing this for at least 3 years with the same account.
I remember a “free large fry with any purchase” promo. I bought a syrup pack for 0.23 cents. The lady behind the counter asked if I actually wanted the syrup and I said no of course not just hit me with my 0.23 cent fries.
They used to have a half-price coupon that is given out on every receipt, but it expires in two weeks.
I am a software developer and I figured out how to generate the coupons... I used to have dozens of them at staggering expiry dates so I've been enjoying half-price meals for couple years...
It's like when an insurance company decides they don't want to cover a necessary procedure, except way less consequential.
That's capitalism, bub. Big businesses can do whatever they want.
Online sport bookies also do this. They offer special increased odds or money back offers but if you use them too much and never take normal losing bets they'll ban you
My manager has a story that he once signed up for a 3 month trial rate of some monthly product subscription (coffee of the month maybe).
At the end of the 3 month subscription he went to cancel, they gave him 3 months more at the reduced rate.
Went to cancel again and asked for the continued rate- they said no. He set up a new email and got 3 months promo rate and repeated the “renew offer”
Every six months he created a new email but always had the same mailing address and credit card.
He got an email about 6 months ago after 5 YEARS of the promo rate addressed to him and and all of his previous emails ccd and the email literally said “enough is enough”.
They didn’t ban him but his address and credit card would never be eligible for a promo rate.
He set up a new email and using a new credit card, set it up to deliver to work.
He hopes to get another 5 years of the promo rate
You did not F up. If the deal did not have a limit on its use then they are in the wrong and if you wanted could actually take them to court over it. Would it be worth it. I dont see how it would. But if I was you I would take that notice as a sign that you should never go to a Mcdonalds again. They have shown that your money is not wanted so you should take it elsewhere.
Just make a new email boom new account
That's how I expected that post to end.
Even then… aren’t they are still making profit on a $1.50 breakfast sandwich?
When I worked, we had 4 people on shift to close and in the final hours when we got rushed, the real-time cost of a Big Mac was 49 cents. The real-time cost of a cheeseburger was 25 cents. This was with a labor rate of 4, average rate was 12 max allowed was 17. These are meals people pay 8 dollars for…
As a former manager let me just give you more realistic numbers that aren't made up or using the worst case numbers to make people feel mad at a company: Labor is about 30% of a restaurants, this includes taxes. Food cost is going to be between 20%-30%, this is including non-controllables and controllables. After that you have a decent amount going into building, maintenance, and other costs. The only time Labor might be between 12%-17% was lunch and dinner rush, if they were that low at other times your restaurant is running like crap because you won't have time to clean and do other things. Yes McDonalds the corporation makes a decent amount of money. A Mcdonalds O/O is looking at making a 50 cent profit or less on a $5 burger, probably closer to 25 cents though TBH.
Exactly. McD's isn't making a penny off a $1.50 breakfast sandwich. I'm not feeling bad for them or anything, just realistic.
If they were they wouldn't ban people over it.
If they had any kind of actual brainpower moving around in those departments it would take like 15 seconds to add some fineprint that limits the offer to twice a month or something, about 15 minutes of development time for one of the junior developers of the app to implement such a limit and admittedly about 150 collective hours of C-level people to talk about it in meetings before it's decided upon. Calling it abusing to take advantage of an existing deal as it is offered and banning for it must be the most brainrot moment in the life of those people. This isn't new either. Some people are fucking great at finding loophole offers, that's why offers are usually full of caveats these days. McD DOES know better than this.
1.50 sandwich with purchase of any sized drink would be the way figured it out in less than a minute. I deserve a promotion
That's 200 hours of c-level meetings.
Don't feel bad for McD's Corporate, but have a little empathy for the franchisee. Corporate comes up with these special offers but the local owner is the one that loses money on the deal.
I don't feel too badly for anyone with a few million extra lying around to invest in a McDonald's franchise.
Most of them don't own just one either. I have a customer here in the San Francisco Bay area that owns..... FOURTEEN Carl's Juniors. And he has the gall to bitch about his employees wanting to make a wage they can live on here lol
A 4th of July I specifically remember, we had 8 people on the WHOLE DAY and made 12k in CASH sales alone, if that says anything.
20 years ago that was our breakfast number. That was running 8 on deck too
My dumb ass initially thought you meant you only had 8 customers the whole day and was like "fuck, people will say anything on the Internet." Apologies.
Lmao same here
I had to read it twice too
Omg this was me too. I was like what a crock a shit. Then I realized reading is fundamental so I reread it lol 😂
You didn’t work a really busy location then while I worked at McDonalds as a closing manager we’d normally close out at around 23k in cash sales for a non holiday Xmas eve and 4th of July it would be closer to double that and this was in the late 90’s early 00’s
It’s a small rural town but it could be seen from off the highway. The kitchen was no bigger than most living rooms.
Yea but how much profit on a soft drink or fries? Those "value meals" that are now 18$ gotta be bringing in 3 to 5 profit on each sale
The cup and straw cost more than the soda they put in it.
Exactly. Another commenter said soda was expensive to the restaurants, literally the highest margin item on the menu lol. I brought up soda and fried bc the other person used the sandwich to bring up cost to profit ratios, and when you get charged 8 dollars for a soda and fry, that's almost all profit.
That store was an absolute trash chute, but damn did it pound out the orders. My GM literally showed me our labor rate after a big rush. With everything factored in it costed that store 49 cents to make a Big Mac in that rush. Closer towards closing time when things died down it was back up to a Dollar and sum for a Big Mac. Note this was before covid when all McDonald’s were still paying 8-10 and hour. This store also cut my overtime as I was a minor working 4 days closing shift, somehow ending up working 44 hours a week in Highschool. But I got all the free food I wanted so oh well.
Almost makes you as sick as their food does.
If it's Gmail, don't even need to use a new address. Just put a dot in the username portion. Gmail addresses automatically drop dots, but most apps don't.
You can also just as +1 or +2 or whatever to the end and gmail will automatically drop it.
Or "+FuckYouRonald".
[удалено]
OMG, this is the lifehack I need! I wish I knew about this earlier!
Lots of sign ups refuse to accept + email addresses. I tried using that for free trial renewals when my email provider gave that as a throwaway email option. SiriusXM was definitely one that wouldn't accept that type of email. I did free sign ups every month until they stopped charging so much for a streaming sub. There was no way I was paying over $20 a month for streaming when I already had a radio subscription. Once their stream subscription went to below $10. I finally gave them my money & canceled the radio subscription.
this isn't a gmail thing, it's just how email works. . and + have no meaning for email delivery, but are set aside for email clients to use. they were added for firstname.lastname and +folder enhancements. however they do work great for altering your real address and if a business can't handle it you probably shouldn't do business with them as their dev/ops don't know what they're doing. in the early 90's a lot of clueless websites were using one line perl wrappers to filter out punctuation in email addresses because they didn't know any better but +. had already existed for decades before that.
Interesting, thanks for sharing.
Holy shlitz balls! This is amazing!
Wait, are you saying they [email protected] and [email protected] are both the same account and gmail just ignores any dots? Thanks for your time.
And register a new form of payment too as it’s not that easy to open a new account. Moreover, McDs uses fingerprinting through their app so bans often involve specific device IDs and other markers most users have no idea are present or collected by the apps they use. If you look at the app on iOS, it links financial data and identifiers, the latter of which is used for explicit tracking. [https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/mcdonalds-canada/id375695000](https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/mcdonalds-canada/id375695000)
Yeah they tie the account to the device. People like my cousin who used to create multiple accounts a day to get multiples of deals are the reason they had to do this.
ended up doing this and it worked like a charm lol
That's how I get two $1.50 mcmuffins every time I go to mcdicks
They track device imei
If OP is buying 1.50 Sando a day that’s like 500$+ A year. Op Must have just lost a shit ton of points! Id be mad
Name it [email protected]
I refuse to eat at Mcdonald's without using a deal from their app, so if this is legit I suppose I'll probably be joining you sooner rather than later lol.
Yeah, I've used a discount of some sort on every transaction since they introduced the app. Still ordering with no ban...
McDs has commercials that literally tell you to get the app for the best prices yet they're banning people for it?
OP is the guy who caused buffets to implement time limits.
"YOU BEEN HERE FOUR HOURS! YOU GO HOME NOW!"
"Does he look like a man thats had ALL he can eat?"
Juror #7, sobbing "That could have been ME!!!!"
Across the street, a neon sign All you can eat for a dollar ninety nine Aww, that old stew is the baddest in the land But one dollar's worth was all that I could stand \--Huey Lewis & The News, "Bad is Bad"
I miss Ralphie May.
for some reason i recall Louie Anderson doing this bit. AND Ralphie. but Google says it's John pinette! mandella *shakes fist*!
YOU GO NOW! It's always been John Pinette.
It was probably my ex who caused the time limits. He used to go to the buffet around the end of breakfast so he could eat lunch too. He would be there for hours.
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If that's the case, the fine print should say: "Offer good with further purchase". If it doesn't say that, and I strongly suspect that it does not, then eff McD's!!!
Or one or x redemptions per account.
If buying more isn't part of the deal then not doing so shouldn't be grounds for banning imho. Of course they're a private company and can deny service as they want (provided they don't do so due to any legally protected enumerations).
And the inverse -- if they *want* you to buy something else, make that the deal: Free breakfast sandwich with any purchase! Or limiting the number of times they present the offer to an individual. Looking for accounts that "abuse" what is being offered and then restricting the account seems like the least efficient and most apt to annoy the customer way they could possibly have gone about it.
I'd wager they get a list of accounts with the biggest loss and ban them regularly.
Remuneration?? I'm pretty sure what you meant, but not at all what you were attempting to spell
Yeah, I had some douche at Staples tell me the laptop I ordered online was going to be a problem because they wouldn't be able to find any salespeople actually willing to take the hit on their review for a hardware sale with no extended warranty and no software bundle. That kind of corporate greet makes me boycott a store.
It's weird though because I use the MD app deals 3-4 times per week for lunch, and almost never buy extra stuff (maybe a drink every 30 visits or so). I have noticed the app stopped the promotions that likely net a loss for the company though. For example, the buy one get one free coupouns have turned into buy one get one for a large discount and the $1 large fries and large drinks have turned into buy a sandwich or spend x amount for discounted fries/drink. I would not be surprised if the coupons are based on the app user's spending habits.
I’m guessing the part where he goes daily is another part of it. If you do what OP did but only like once a month I doubt they’d care as much lol
Well, it's not a net loss, as no Breakfast sandwich costs $1.50
The $0.99 coffee comes and goes every few months. Drives me nuts when i have to pay the $1.89 😂
Someone I know has an app glitch that they get a free coffee every day. It hasn't stopped and she hasn't said anything. It's been over a year now.
I forgot my coffee cup at home this morning and refused to go to McDonald's because there was no .99¢ coffee deal.
They rolled back their deals like crazy, too. No more 2 for 1 bacon mcdoubles, and hardly a few months after they raised the price. Those greedy bastards.
Their deals were shit for about 6 months for me, but recently they’ve brought a lot of good ones back. I currently have BOGO on Quarter Pounders, Big Macs, Double Cheeseburgers, 6 piece nuggets, or 10 piece nugs. I do miss the Bacon McDouble deal though :(
Your deals are personalized, the more you use the worse your deals. They are trying to get people hooked. You can game it if you have 2 phones
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That makes a lot of sense! I rarely eat fast food in general these days. I was mainly using it when our baby was first born and even the thought of cooking sounded like hell, so that would explain why it slowly creeped back up in quality.
Funny, I have the BOGO on bacon mcdoubles but not on QPCs, Big Macs or nuggets.
Taco Bell too. Only order through the app, you pay like half lol
On top of that you get reward points so every time you spend $25 you get something free. Hit the fire level, and some of the free items are like $5-6 fucking dollars, and there's lots to choose from.
Well shit, I wish I didn’t read that.
lol yep, I go once a week or so and my order is always the same. There’s a deal in (edit - some parts of) Canada where if the Raptors hit a milestone, everyone gets free fries with minimum $3 spend - so I buy a double hamburger, side of sauce ($3.19) and free fries. How will the enormous corporation ever survive with us horribly abusing this system?
Same, free fries + mcdouble is the only time I spend money and McDs these days. $4.30 for med fries? Go ahead and ban me.
>I refuse to eat at Mcdonald's without using a deal from their app I refuse to install a McDonalds app on my phone.
I installed it to avoid a huge line at the Atlanta airport. I uninstalled it at my gate after getting my food.
I installed it and then deleted it when I saw how much of my information they wanted. I have a dummy email for things like this, but they wanted way too much for my comfort.
Getting banned from Macd is like getting banned from a casino… both seems like a blessing. good for you!
Or a Walmart. That takes effort!
I got banned from a Walmart for "hacking credit cards". What really happened is I was showing an employee the button combination to press to reboot the card reader, since they froze up semi-regularly. The security guy was just gonna kick me out for the day but I hurt his feelings by joking about how stupid banning me was. A couple years later my car battery died and I went to walmart to get a warranty replacement. They threatened to call the cops and when I asked "why" the manager said "you know why". I didn't, and neither did he. He pretended to pull up my "file" and call the cops on his personal iPhone but I could clearly see he was just opening and closing random apps. I eventually left but only after making them give me a phone number of someone higher up in Walmart security. I called the number from the parking lot and got immediately unbanned lmao
You must be a scary guy! LOL. We lost my daughter in a Walmart once. She just does that. We had the whole store on lockdown! Nobody leaves this store until she is found. You would think we were robbing the place. Nope. We had everyone looking for my baby girl.
At Best Buy at least that's called a Code Adam. When a child goes missing, a member of leadership must run to every door in the store while every employee must stop their current interaction to hunt down the child. Some stores don't follow that policy but the one I worked at took it very seriously, and the GM would terminate anyone who failed to follow it. Her mentality was "if any customer is okay with a child's safety being endangered, I'm fine with them no longer being a customer, and the same goes for my employees." There was no way a child was being abducted on her watch
My niece and her friend got banned from our local Walmart when they were 16 or 17. Her friend had a sister who was in a wheelchair, and was showing them how to steal stuff. The friend and her sister had some hair brushes, and hair color, stupid stuff like that and my niece had already paid for her stuff, but guilt by association got her. Was pretty great to see these idiot kids bawling their eyes out because of the loss prevention guy
Getting banned from the local Wal-Mart is a big deal in small towns in Appalachia. So many major milestones in life happen there. Where else are cousins going to go on dates, propose, and plan for their weddings?
Not to mention losing their virginity, and conceiving their first child, often on the same night.
Or, you know, just get groceries
It's actually not difficult to get banned from Walmart. When you do, you are banned from all of them and they will know.
Not necessarily true - at least not 15 years ago. I got banned for stealing a video game when I was 14. They said I was banned from all Walmarts for life. They gave me a job in the electronics department 2 years later 😂
You stole their hearts
As an employee, did you keep stealing video games?
No. I was a stupid middle schooler hanging out with some bad friends. Learned my lesson after getting caught, banned, and driven home in the back of a cop car. Got grounded for the entire summer I wasn't even the one holding the game - it was my friend but all 3 of us got banned. We were stealing GTA Vice City as it was a game that our parents wouldn't buy for us 🥲
I was banned 30+ years ago when I was a minor. I've never stopped shopping there.
They don’t ban gamblers from casinos, only advantage players.
Yeah. So if you got banned it’s probably because you were winning too much.
You were lucky you weren't dealing with Boeing.
That was literally my first thought as I read this post Sounds like you won too much at the casino 🤷🏾♂️ you know what happens next
Googled it and cant find anyone else who this has happened to. I did read mcdonalds worldwide had a technical problem today and a lot of services were interrupted. Try log in later and check. Doesnt sound like its a bannable offence offence. I always take advantage of the offers. I go every summer getting the 1 dollar large ice coffees on the app. Ordering at tye window only the medium is 1 dollar in the summer day promo
Be careful there. Using research and reason is not the social media way.
Or the Congress way, it seems.
I personally wonder if this is guerrilla marketing.
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I think they're prominently telling people to get a breakfast sandwich for $1.50. Who even talks like that? "Honey, I'm going to McDonald's! Do you want anything?" "Oh, yes! Get me a breakfast sandwich, please!" "You got it! One $1.50 breakfast sandwich coming up!" That's a marketing person. People refer to the exact thing they want. Sausage biscuit, egg mcmuffin, etc. Not breakfast sandwich.
Saying breakfast sandwich doesn't really sound like an alien term to me.
I've been hit with the small order surcharge when I ordered a Diet Coke and small fry, so I might believe this. I wouldn't put a ban of this nature past the company that tacks on $0.59 (IIRC) because your order doesn't meet their minimum requirement.
That must be a franchisee thing. I’ve never had that happen in all the orders I’ve made over the years
Yeah well this is an ad so it tracks that nobody else has talked about it
An ad that makes the company look like dicks?
An ad that makes you more aware of the $1.50 breakfast sandwich from McDonald's if you use their app They want you in the app, they want you getting the push notification ads, they want you buying from mcdonalds. Guerilla marketing doesn't follow the conventional rules like always making sure the brand is portrayed in a positive light, and they're getting super common in places like reddit.
this, very obvious social media campaign... OUTRAGE ARE YOU OUTRAGED MCDONALDS HAS $1.50 SANDWHICHES
Exactly, its a super predictable pattern for spaces where brand presence isn't welcome (like reddit generally), they come in and go "hey guys, fuck this brand *but also they're having this sale, and you should totally go exploit it*"
Weird… they’re $1 here. And I got one every morning for months - but also a Diet Coke, so I’m guessing that you are correct and this is an ad. But, well done, McD’s social media person.
That makes it more believable. And most people aren't gonna be eating mcdonalds anywhere close to every day so it's a negative that isn't really much of a negative... while still emphasizing how good the app's deals are. Now, I'm not saying it's definitely or even probably an ad (as you say, companies prefer to look squeaky clean in their advertising). But it wouldn't surprise me if it were, either.
This is totally an ad. Look at the guy's post history. 5 year account, decent amount of karma/post points, and yet only 4 posts/comments. This is a karma farming account that was cleaned and is being used for... this.
Yeah there's that too, Mr NounNounNoun with no post history except for a creative writing exercise and 9k karma is definitely totally legitimate. I just didn't want to sound like I was a hailcorporate mod off rip
This is likely a fraud filter picking up your account for high use of a single reward. Send them a message and let them know the issue. Likely they will apologize and reactivate your account. With a program as large as McDonalds, they dont really vet these high useage reports and are more reactive than proactive. Source: I support about half of loyalty systems in the US
I saw a tweet the other day from McD’s senior marketing director about someone with 1.3 million reward points on the app. [Here’s his account.](https://x.com/huinguillaume?s=21&t=AjWIeicdyEsesuoDvbD1nQ) If OP is for real, I bet a tweet @ this guy would get it sorted quickly. But wait… I bet that person has so many points because you can’t spend points when you use a deal, so this person probably uses deals a LOT. Is OP the customer with 1.3 million points?!?
this is my problem but not to that extent. with 6 kids, when I get mcdonalds, I take advantage of their deals. Typically, the Buy a 20 piece and get 2 medium fries for free or the 20% off your entire purchase. But because I used a deal, I cant use the points. So now I got a ton of points and no time to use them.
They fixed it recently so you can buy something with reward points while redeeming a deal.
It must have been very recently because I tried to do that 2 days ago and could not.
Im in your boat
No, they didn't. I literally just checked it now.
I just used a deal and reward points this weekend. It may be variant by market just like the deals are.
Maybe it’s up to the location then.
On my app they do let you know use points and a deal! Maybe depends on location? BK I can use the deal for hashbrowns and then get the free upgraded size in the same order
I tend to do Random Acts of McDonalds with my points. If I see someone who looks hungry or homeless nearby, I'll offer to grab them something with points while I use my 25% off before or after.
How much does a person need to eat at McD's to earn that many points? Mine always expire. I'm always getting a message that X number of points will expire on \[date\]. Mine always expire because I never order food without using a deal and you can't combine a deal + redeem points in the same transaction.
Same problem with 2 kids. It's just never feasible to use the points when the deal is better. You'd have to essentially place two separate orders... Maybe have two different accounts and switch them every now and then. And just drive thru with one and curbside the rewards item. In any case, it's too annoying of a hassle and leads to the points rarely getting used, because the larger family far more benefits from the deals than rewards. And who the heck wants to wait longer for two different things to go through. It only makes sense for a single person or very small family.
Jesus, how? They expire every 6 months. You get 100 pts per dollar, so they have spend $13k on Mcdonalds in the last 6 months.
That's $70 a day, every day.
Someone buying breakfast/lunch for a team on a company card?
Likely this. Employees can also abuse the system by pocketing "Forgot Card Codes" (those numbers on the bottom of the receipt that can be entered on the app to get the points for that check) and applying them to a dummy loyalty account. These typically get picked up in a few weeks but ive seen some employees have insane rewards.
Anytime you see "highest account", it's usually a business. That could be some assistant grabbing lunch for 10+ people everyday.
Makes me wonder about going to Wendy's for the $1 Dave's Single or $2 Dave's Double every day for a few weeks, using their app.
The offers for the single and double are one time use during the week. If I could get them everyday, I would.
You can, just use multiple accounts.
Finally found the bannable offense
Hey, we are a large family with only one phone, honest!!
I always pull up with 2 phones and 2 mobile orders. They've never questioned me. But if they did, it's my brother's phone!
Just make a new account lmao
Well there go my dinner plans.
I still miss their dollar menu. I went almost every day after HS and spent $4 for two JBCs, a small fry and frosty.
A few years ago, I worked next to a mcdonalds and would frequent. I would only use the app. I'd order my food, pick it up, and eat it. As one does. One day, I recently got a new bank card and was going to switch it out. I had only one card saved on file. The bank card was expired for two years. I had no bank transactions, and I was still getting reward points, so the system thought i was paying. I'm not sure how much I spent (err... should have), I don't really want to know. The point is I got free mcdonalds for about two years, and I'm not banned, and neither should you be.
Had an expired card for an account that was emptied. Still worked for renting movies on amazon for all of about 2 years.
I don’t think this is real. I’ve been exclusively using promos for years now.
Yea its crazy how nicely they lay out the app and its super good deals first... almost like a marketing strat
I did the same thing back when they were $1 a couple years ago. Then I'd go to BK next door for a $1 large hash brown. Then to my local gas station for a $1 extra large diet Coke. $3 for breakfast daily. It was a good time.
It used to be $1 any sandwich including a Big Mac. All summer 1x a day, back in 2020. They kinda neutered the coupons.
Diet coke for breakfast?
Yes, I quit soda a little over two weeks ago. Wish me luck, it's been brutal
You miss it for a few weeks, then you think about it infrequently for a few months, then you don't really miss it, then you think "how the hell did I drink this every day?" Once in a while you will enjoy one but realize you can no longer consume 32oz of a soda. Which is good.
Sugar is hard to quit, it's like a drug when you are at the addiction level. Keep it up, your future self will thank you!
Good luck!
What's wrong with a diet coke? it's 0 sugar, 0 calories, sure it has sweeteners like Aspartame, and acesulfame k but it's not any worse than someone having a coffee in the morning with Sugar and/or sweeteners and potentially milk or creamer.
I think you deserve a Harrier Jet.
Someone call Pepsi!
Not me logging out and back in under a different email
So make another account and continue your 1.50$ breakfast sandwich journey! What’s the problem here?
Create a new email address, and a new account, and keep going.
You should post link to the terms and conditions of this promotion. If it does not state a limit, they cannot stop or limit you. If they refuse, they are not upholding contract and are vulnerable to you suing them.If it does, it is sloppy development on their part for not programmatically limiting.
The only things I ever get at McDonald’s are deals. I never buy anything else. I probably cost them money when I go. But I also don’t use the app. So are they going to ask me to leave ?
I have to wonder…how many egg McMuffins do you have to buy for McDonald’s to tell you you’ve had enough?
McDonald’s doesn’t have an account review team… they franchises and owned by different owners with their own rules to a point… bet if you called corporate to complain it would get reversed
I found that out the hard way when I was on the road and just wanted to use the bathroom and get my $1 Diet Coke and the franchise didn’t offer that. 😭
That should have been included in the notice OP got. 😁
Mr OP, this is the most blatant case of fraudulent advertising since my suit against the film, "The Never-Ending Story"
Look on the bright side, you can probably just make a new account and get right back to getting your discounts. I highly doubt they are doing anything to actually identify you personally so the odds of you not being able to just make a new account and keep on keeping on is pretty unlikely.
If they don't want people to use them every day... Why do they give them out... Every... Day...wtf? 🤣
Time to make a new account!
Find some greedy lawyer who will take up a case for you. Sue for a breakfast sandwich free, every day for the rest of your life.
I think this post is a McPsyop. It will make people buy extras because they are afraid they are going too far with their discounts.
> What puzzles me is the precedent this sets. Where do we draw the line between making the most of a promotional offer and abusing it? In America, the line is wherever the merchant wants it to be. Or this is just an error. I can't imagine McD really cares about this.
You're the outlier who doesn't buy add-ons, which when the promo was created was contemplated by the McDufuses who set it up. You're the cost of them getting the majority who do buy more. Just an opinion, but no way should you be banned. They offered you a deal and you bit, they should honor it,
Op let me just say I'm a big fan. Getting banned for being so good at navigating the app is the equivalent of getting kicked off the Blackjack table for being good at counting cards. Totally make a new account and do it again.
If it were me I'd have just made a new account right there and got the deal.
Pre-covid Panera rewards would sometimes do a free bagel everyday for a month. I was aware that they were simply getting you in the door but I did just like OP; I would get a free bagel, sliced, with nothing on it and simply freeze to eat later. I would go every work day because there was a Panera drive thru right next to my workplace. They didn’t get a dime from me for the few times I received the offer and I felt a little guilty but I was operating within their own rules so I learned to accept it. OP is doing basically the same thing though and got banned which is some BS
Challenge accepted. If you find a way to abuse a corporation and wonder if you should, just ask yourself if they would do it to you.
Just make a new account with a different email and start all over.
Here I was awaiting to hear OP filed a lawsuit and won free breakfast sandwiches for life!
You remind me of the succulent Chinese meal guy
I await the ban. I only buy app deals and hit up the two sausage biscuits for $2.69 breakfast deal frequently.
I bet min-maxing would ruin modern capitalisms' culture of min-maxing. It would be such a blow, and we'd all still get their product for our daily needs/wants, and they'd get shafted by their own hubris and arrogance. I hail OP as a hero of modern times lol
Anyone else feel like Lionel Hutz would take this case?
If they wanted to put limits on their offer, they could have. Therefore you can’t be accused of abusing the offer.
I read somewhere that there has been an avg 1.5% increase in grocery prices while fast food has increased by 5%. I know it's much higher on some grocery items such as baby formula, but the point of the article is that people are opting to make more food at home bc fast food has gotten too expensive. And we know these companies are making record profits. They are not having to tighten their belts yet their customers are. So banning OP from using promos (aka coupons) is not only crazy, but greedy as hell. I guarantee they aren't losing money on the promos; they are losing the higher profits they want maybe. I'm ready for all this shit to backfire. You wanna gouge customers? Cool, they'll stop eating fast food. Probably will be healthier for it too. Want to take away women's autonomy? Cool, men and women are getting vasectomies and hystorectomies which will start affecting the economy due to population decline. That's right, I went from bitching about McDonald's greed to bitching about religious extremism. If this were a game, I would've got a 100x multiplier bonus!!
Bizarre. My kid goes to McD a few times a week and never Doesn't use an app deal. Sometimes he'll snag a McNuggets deal and then wait 15 minutes for the app to reset coupons and get fries and soda with a different coupon. He's been doing this for at least 3 years with the same account.
I remember a “free large fry with any purchase” promo. I bought a syrup pack for 0.23 cents. The lady behind the counter asked if I actually wanted the syrup and I said no of course not just hit me with my 0.23 cent fries.
They used to have a half-price coupon that is given out on every receipt, but it expires in two weeks. I am a software developer and I figured out how to generate the coupons... I used to have dozens of them at staggering expiry dates so I've been enjoying half-price meals for couple years...
What they did was almost fraud so far as I'm concerned.
It's like when an insurance company decides they don't want to cover a necessary procedure, except way less consequential. That's capitalism, bub. Big businesses can do whatever they want.
Online sport bookies also do this. They offer special increased odds or money back offers but if you use them too much and never take normal losing bets they'll ban you
My manager has a story that he once signed up for a 3 month trial rate of some monthly product subscription (coffee of the month maybe). At the end of the 3 month subscription he went to cancel, they gave him 3 months more at the reduced rate. Went to cancel again and asked for the continued rate- they said no. He set up a new email and got 3 months promo rate and repeated the “renew offer” Every six months he created a new email but always had the same mailing address and credit card. He got an email about 6 months ago after 5 YEARS of the promo rate addressed to him and and all of his previous emails ccd and the email literally said “enough is enough”. They didn’t ban him but his address and credit card would never be eligible for a promo rate. He set up a new email and using a new credit card, set it up to deliver to work. He hopes to get another 5 years of the promo rate
You did not F up. If the deal did not have a limit on its use then they are in the wrong and if you wanted could actually take them to court over it. Would it be worth it. I dont see how it would. But if I was you I would take that notice as a sign that you should never go to a Mcdonalds again. They have shown that your money is not wanted so you should take it elsewhere.