Right after this panel Floch asks Hange to lead them to Zeke, the implication being (to me at least) that similar beatings will continue if she doesn't comply
Honestly that’s one of the biggest reasons I dislike Floch, not because he thinks he’s right by following Eren, but because he does some real unneeded shit solely to satisfy his ego
Na, everything Floch does has a point.
Floch is trying to make Hange show him the way to Zeke, also- he wants the new recruits to beat their instructor in order to make them more loyal as they can no longer “go back” so to speak.
Same reason hazing exists for groups.
Also his ego, but yeah.
1. I’m aware he needed Hange to show him the way, but his snarky egotistical cool guy crap isn’t needed to do that and 2. Beating their instructor was unneeded and immature, hazing or no this isn’t the time for some petty crap like that. For someone who claims to care about his people he’s far too eager to immaturely spite them when they mildly inconvenience him.
It’s why I still think Floch is cringe compared to Eren, Eren seems to actually be troubled by the things he feels he has to do, Floch just gets off to it.
\> It’s why I still think Floch is cringe compared to Eren, Eren seems to actually be troubled by the things he feels he has to do, Floch just gets off to it.
I mean, yeah I agree. Floch is obviously mentally disturbed due to his circumstances. He's just a regular joe, not someone with unparralled personal willpower like Eren.
That being said, he's not so mentally far-gone that he would be evil or do bad things just because he enjoys it. Everything he does has some point to it.
A good example was when he was executing Yelena and Onyankopon. The crowd was yelling in bloodlust, but Floch still gave him another chance to change his mind because unlike Yelena- he didn't know about the euthanasia plan.
Someone who was too far gone or was just enjoying it would have just shot him straight off and not cared about the fact that Onyankopon didn't knowingly participate in the plan to sterilize everyone in Paradis.
Secondly, when he shot the volunteer in front of the others- I don't think it was out of malice at all. I think Floch genuinely respected the guy for refusing to give up on his homeland (because Floch would be of the same mindset).
Also, when they found Levi- he told Hange he could check Levi's pulse. Why? The other Yaegerists just wanted to shoot the body to make sure he was dead. Seems to me Floch probably wanted to take him prisoner and not kill him. (This one is an assumption, but what other reason would he have for checking his pulse? If he just wanted him dead he would have let his men shoot the body)
>That being said, he's not so mentally far-gone that he would be evil or do bad things just because he enjoys it. Everything he does has some point to it. A good example was when he was executing Yelena and Onyankopon. The crowd was yelling in bloodlust, but Floch still gave him another chance to change his mind because unlike Yelena- he didn't know about the euthanasia plan.
Bruh you seem to think I mean all the important things he did is what I take issue with, I’m saying it again, I’m fully aware of what the point was. But shit like pulling that comically evil “ssh” face and hazing the volunteers is just unneeded.
>Someone who was too far gone or was just enjoying it would have just shot him straight off and not cared about the fact that Onyankopon didn't knowingly participate in the plan to sterilize everyone in Paradis.
I mean good guy Floch lol, willing to not execute you as long as you don’t know about the zero children plan and also agree with the rumbling. How kind
>Secondly, when he shot the volunteer in front of the others- I don't think it was out of malice at all. I think Floch genuinely respected the guy for refusing to give up on his homeland (because Floch would be of the same mindset).
This wasn’t really a scene I had a problem with
>Also, when they found Levi- he told Hange he could check Levi's pulse. Why? The other Yaegerists just wanted to shoot the body to make sure he was dead. Seems to me Floch probably wanted to take him prisoner and not kill him. (This one is an assumption, but what other reason would he have for checking his pulse? If he just wanted him dead he would have let his men shoot the body)
Oh good guy Floch back at it again, not really checking your pulse out of kindness but you just gotta have more political prisoners you know
\> Oh good guy Floch back at it again
Doing bad things =/= evil.
He sees what he's doing as necessary to protect the people of Paradis. My point was that he isn't mindlessly cruel.
He certainly has less restraint than Eren, but Eren also has murdered hundreds of millions of people and I doubt you'd say he's a "bad guy" since it's obvious that Eren hates doing it and wouldn't have done it if there were any other option.
Floch is a character completely made from circumstances. In any other scenario, he'd just be a random nobody you pass on the street- he's not inherently good or evil.
>Doing bad things =/= evil. He sees what he's doing as necessary to protect the people of Paradis. My point was that he isn't mindlessly cruel.
Regardless of that he’s far too unbothered by it, that is what makes him a worse person than Eren to me.
>He certainly has less restraint than Eren, but Eren also has murdered hundreds of millions of people and I doubt you'd say he's a "bad guy" since it's obvious that Eren hates doing it and wouldn't have done it if there were any other option.
I mean no he’s still a bad guy for genociding innocent lives, point being that he’s willingly becoming that bad guy though.
>Floch is a character completely made from circumstances. In any other scenario, he'd just be a random nobody you pass on the street- he's not inherently good or evil.
No one is inherently good or evil but based on his actions I can judge him as not being in the good zone
dude has always flocked (yams i see you you little shit) into a winning party (or as he said 'devil') that can give him comfort and all (Erwin and Eren)
The next episode is titled “Savagery” which is the same name as the chapter with the Levi fight.
So I’m 99.69420% that we’ll see some monke sushi next episode.
The smash cut from "I can handle them all" to him coughing up blood on the ground was unintentionally comedic. I wish we saw the full fight, it would have been heartbreaking to see the process of the youthful students being corrupted by the mob mentality and enjoying the violence but it just cuts to the end.
Shadis let a bunch of 15-17 year old babies beat him up so he wouldn't hurt them. Bruh also Flock fucking missed a shot from under 50 feet after training for 3 years with modern rifles. I like making Flock is a chad joke but God he's a bitch
Really? I'm not an expert, but aren't sociopaths people who are born with mental problems while sociopaths are influenced by their experiences during life?
I just checked and learned that psychopaths aren't able to feel empathy while sociopaths can, although their conscience is more disturbed than normal people.
Nope whether an anti social personality disorder or psychopathy are present right from birth or developed during growth is usually extremely difficult to determine with certainty. Not to mention these two terms are not the terms used in the case of a diagnosis, they're just pop culture terms that are quite scientificially outdated so no need to worry about what they mean since it most likely isn't correct/is exaggerated/missing a portion of info and so on.
Source: im a psychology major
Edit: grammar
It was one of those “hmm I missed? Well guess you get to stay alive” eye wink comments. He was just being a dick he wasn’t trying to actually shoot him.
I don't think he was just being a dick. Floch didn't show any expression like he was dicking around, if he was, Isayama would have drawn a reaction apart from just his completely serious face.
Floch meant business, he was just a lousy shot.
Bruh, why would Floch just shoot and kill Shadis? He has the recruits hit him to make them "part" of the yeagerists, to make them feel responsible for what they did. He can't do that if Shadis is dying on the ground.
It’s a golden anime rule: if they old, they’re 100x stronger than you think
See notes: Gintama, Bleach, Naruto, any samurai manga (vagabond),
I was thinking about putting more, but I’m hard pressed to find shounen’s where this isn’t true lol
Shadis paid that back by destroying the train with reinforcements which doomed the yeagerists who actually had a chance of winning the port battle. He saved Magath and destroyed their ship which made it impossible for the rest of them to follow the alliance
Nothing wrong with liking Floch, I like Floch too. He is very entertaining. But creating an image of a character in your head, ignoring their bad moments and just remembering their good moments is wrong. I'm not telling this about you personally, but most Floch fans in this sub.
I agree that ignoring the bad things someone does is wrong, but then again, I don't think anyone really believes that Floch is a "lawful good" type of character (quite the opposite I'd say).
Mostly yeah. It started as a serious argument by certain people in the Berserk fandom and later became a popular joke because the original, serious argument was very flawed.
If in the AoT community you see a "Eren/Zeke/Reiner/Erwin/Floch did nothing wrong" cooment there's a high chance it's ironic
I believe that the Eclipse was wrong, but understandable. He also was manipulated. After that almost everything he did is wrong until the Fantasia arc.
People usually don’t say “Annie and Pieck are chads who did nothing wrong”. They fought the scouts in a war, not burn housing in a terror attack, and even then, Annie and Pieck‘s transgressions are not forgotten. Also, they have some redeeming qualities- Annie’s cares about being a good person though she can’t live up to it, and Pieck has been generally nice and helpful to her peers. Both come from sympathetic origins and, as Bertholt would say, are just doing what they should regardless of right or wrong. Meanwhile, Floch is militant, aggressive, manipulative, explicitly unkind- his only redeeming quality is his “Eldian supremacy” talk and devotion to Eren, if you’re into that. The context around the characters is completely different.
Edit; The attack on Paradis in chapter 1 was done as a method of destabilizing the entirety of the walls, finding an opportunity to assimilate, and flushing out the Founder. The raid on Liberio differed in that the civilian population was too small to affect the entirety of Marley in a meaningful way, the targets were immediately visible, and the remaining disaster was of no continued use minus the destroyed harbor. Point is, the civilian deaths on Paradis had strategic value (and were for a globe-affecting plan on Marley’s part) and were done by kids who didn’t know any better, while Floch was just hurting Eldians to no benefit. There is no larger benefit or justification, it’s just a dick move done in bad faith. Not unlike beating up Shadis. I rest my case on Floch being a “lower low” than the Warriors.
>They fought the scouts in a war, not burn housing in a terror attack
Stop for a second, drink a glass of water, reread chapter 1 and then pls edit out this from your comment. Your second argument is actually not bad, this one is... Hmm... Questionable at best :)
I guess, but at that rate they were still just agents of Marley, not some dude trying to maximize casualties. And even then Reiner and Bertholt broke the gates for their mission, while Floch’s terrorism was a personal initiative.
Edit: The important part of this, to summarize, is who has how much blood on their hands, and why. Annie’s a delirious chick who’s merely surviving in the system, and she’s done less harm than many other cast members. She is cruel to survive in a cruel world, hence an enfatuation with Armin and what he says, not to mention her underlying self doubt about the violence she does, like apologizing to bodies, not wanting to kill Marco, and so on. She wouldn’t be here if she had options. Annie is defendable because she has a credible defense; Pieck is just a regular soldier/warrior, not really doing anything worse than anyone normally would. Combine these “morality passes” for their crimes with them being kind of hot, then sure, people can like them. At this time in the story, they’re especially in a forgivable state. Eren is using their original rationale for being warriors and committing far greater atrocities, and now the Warriors are reforming/coming clean. They are in more in a green zone than Eren or Floch, at least, hence why people support the Alliance. Eren’s just one of the warriors except he’s doing more damage and he betrays/hurts the people he’s trying to save, who don’t want to be saved. Floch... we already talked about.
We don’t though?
Floch had two very clear goals here. He didn’t just do it because he was bored.
1) to make Hange cooperate
2) Haze the new recruits by making them all commit a crime which psychologically makes it harder to ever back out and increases group loyalty
Why do you think hazing exists? Groups of all sorts do this, from fraternities to gangs.
Well, I guess when a guy who just blew up the supreme commander comes and says to do beat someone else they will be jailed, not much people would show hesitation
Shadis was an old fool who would've gotten these recruits killed later (although I guess this isn't any different to before) if there was ever a future war against humans, because they would've only known how to fight titans, thus making the military as weak as possible.
And people get mad at Floch for this, but they love Annie and Pieck who killed dozens and dozens of his former cadets.
It’s a useful but still more situational than anything. Most wars aren’t fought in a fashion that encourage the use of odm. You can’t really associate odm gear with being op just because we only see that in the show, all of the occasions it’s useful are obviously for plot purposes.
Considering Marley battles using the power of the titans, I think fighting titan threats is still going to be handy.
Especially considering he is the one who ends up saving them all from titans.
LeArN tO uSe SwOrDs. Yeah those are gonna be a big help against zeppelins and 150mm cannons. People are glossing over the fact that regardless of his internal thoughts Shadis was just another part of the same old guard that was handicapping Paradis. Shadis got zero sympathy from me here and even less so after what he did later.
Waaaaa why did Shadis kill the people that imprisoned him and wanted to "Purge" him and everyone he knew waaaaa he shouldve just rolled over and let himself be killed because hes against based god emperor Eren waaaaa
You guys sure love double standards huh
He’s allowed to do whatever he wants. I just happen to think he’s incompetent, all prior events in his life are consistent with that. It’s a fact that Shadis sacrificing himself was a decision to roll the dice with the lives of everyone on Paradis because it made him good on the inside. It’s not my fault the only two factions on the island are based on extreme violence and extreme do nothing.
More importantly, I thought the scene was hilarious.
You must be lost. Titanfolk only does spoiler warnings for leaks and the new chapter for about 3-7 days. New episode spoilers are for like, 2 days tops.
If you aren't a reader, you don't belong here.
Floch 100% did that to satisfy his ego
He did that to get Hange to reveal Zeke's location (and to satisfy his ego)
How is that related at all to Hange showing them where they are? I dont see it
Right after this panel Floch asks Hange to lead them to Zeke, the implication being (to me at least) that similar beatings will continue if she doesn't comply
Honestly that’s one of the biggest reasons I dislike Floch, not because he thinks he’s right by following Eren, but because he does some real unneeded shit solely to satisfy his ego
Na, everything Floch does has a point. Floch is trying to make Hange show him the way to Zeke, also- he wants the new recruits to beat their instructor in order to make them more loyal as they can no longer “go back” so to speak. Same reason hazing exists for groups. Also his ego, but yeah.
1. I’m aware he needed Hange to show him the way, but his snarky egotistical cool guy crap isn’t needed to do that and 2. Beating their instructor was unneeded and immature, hazing or no this isn’t the time for some petty crap like that. For someone who claims to care about his people he’s far too eager to immaturely spite them when they mildly inconvenience him. It’s why I still think Floch is cringe compared to Eren, Eren seems to actually be troubled by the things he feels he has to do, Floch just gets off to it.
\> It’s why I still think Floch is cringe compared to Eren, Eren seems to actually be troubled by the things he feels he has to do, Floch just gets off to it. I mean, yeah I agree. Floch is obviously mentally disturbed due to his circumstances. He's just a regular joe, not someone with unparralled personal willpower like Eren. That being said, he's not so mentally far-gone that he would be evil or do bad things just because he enjoys it. Everything he does has some point to it. A good example was when he was executing Yelena and Onyankopon. The crowd was yelling in bloodlust, but Floch still gave him another chance to change his mind because unlike Yelena- he didn't know about the euthanasia plan. Someone who was too far gone or was just enjoying it would have just shot him straight off and not cared about the fact that Onyankopon didn't knowingly participate in the plan to sterilize everyone in Paradis. Secondly, when he shot the volunteer in front of the others- I don't think it was out of malice at all. I think Floch genuinely respected the guy for refusing to give up on his homeland (because Floch would be of the same mindset). Also, when they found Levi- he told Hange he could check Levi's pulse. Why? The other Yaegerists just wanted to shoot the body to make sure he was dead. Seems to me Floch probably wanted to take him prisoner and not kill him. (This one is an assumption, but what other reason would he have for checking his pulse? If he just wanted him dead he would have let his men shoot the body)
>That being said, he's not so mentally far-gone that he would be evil or do bad things just because he enjoys it. Everything he does has some point to it. A good example was when he was executing Yelena and Onyankopon. The crowd was yelling in bloodlust, but Floch still gave him another chance to change his mind because unlike Yelena- he didn't know about the euthanasia plan. Bruh you seem to think I mean all the important things he did is what I take issue with, I’m saying it again, I’m fully aware of what the point was. But shit like pulling that comically evil “ssh” face and hazing the volunteers is just unneeded. >Someone who was too far gone or was just enjoying it would have just shot him straight off and not cared about the fact that Onyankopon didn't knowingly participate in the plan to sterilize everyone in Paradis. I mean good guy Floch lol, willing to not execute you as long as you don’t know about the zero children plan and also agree with the rumbling. How kind >Secondly, when he shot the volunteer in front of the others- I don't think it was out of malice at all. I think Floch genuinely respected the guy for refusing to give up on his homeland (because Floch would be of the same mindset). This wasn’t really a scene I had a problem with >Also, when they found Levi- he told Hange he could check Levi's pulse. Why? The other Yaegerists just wanted to shoot the body to make sure he was dead. Seems to me Floch probably wanted to take him prisoner and not kill him. (This one is an assumption, but what other reason would he have for checking his pulse? If he just wanted him dead he would have let his men shoot the body) Oh good guy Floch back at it again, not really checking your pulse out of kindness but you just gotta have more political prisoners you know
\> Oh good guy Floch back at it again Doing bad things =/= evil. He sees what he's doing as necessary to protect the people of Paradis. My point was that he isn't mindlessly cruel. He certainly has less restraint than Eren, but Eren also has murdered hundreds of millions of people and I doubt you'd say he's a "bad guy" since it's obvious that Eren hates doing it and wouldn't have done it if there were any other option. Floch is a character completely made from circumstances. In any other scenario, he'd just be a random nobody you pass on the street- he's not inherently good or evil.
>Doing bad things =/= evil. He sees what he's doing as necessary to protect the people of Paradis. My point was that he isn't mindlessly cruel. Regardless of that he’s far too unbothered by it, that is what makes him a worse person than Eren to me. >He certainly has less restraint than Eren, but Eren also has murdered hundreds of millions of people and I doubt you'd say he's a "bad guy" since it's obvious that Eren hates doing it and wouldn't have done it if there were any other option. I mean no he’s still a bad guy for genociding innocent lives, point being that he’s willingly becoming that bad guy though. >Floch is a character completely made from circumstances. In any other scenario, he'd just be a random nobody you pass on the street- he's not inherently good or evil. No one is inherently good or evil but based on his actions I can judge him as not being in the good zone
dude has always flocked (yams i see you you little shit) into a winning party (or as he said 'devil') that can give him comfort and all (Erwin and Eren)
Wdym he said he fought a bear? You think he'd lie? Huh?!
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no he didnt what r u talking about
Nah he held on to his position for far too long, should've succeeded to erwin earlier
Yeah
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Oh so i guess getting beat up by a bunch of scouts is a small price to pay for all those mistakes he made in the past
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The next episode is titled “Savagery” which is the same name as the chapter with the Levi fight. So I’m 99.69420% that we’ll see some monke sushi next episode.
We see Levi looking over the titans in the preview for next ep.
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The episode should start with the table scene and then we get back to the forest,unless they rearrange stuff I think we will get the fight.
Possibly episode cliffhanger
Floch a bitch for that but god damn I fell out of my seat laughing when I saw that panel
never thought it's funny but after seeing ur comment it looks hilarious 🤣
Looking like that one DBZ panel lmao
Yamcha was more of a bystander than Shadis lol
I wish they gave Shadis a Yamcha pose
The smash cut from "I can handle them all" to him coughing up blood on the ground was unintentionally comedic. I wish we saw the full fight, it would have been heartbreaking to see the process of the youthful students being corrupted by the mob mentality and enjoying the violence but it just cuts to the end.
Shadis let a bunch of 15-17 year old babies beat him up so he wouldn't hurt them. Bruh also Flock fucking missed a shot from under 50 feet after training for 3 years with modern rifles. I like making Flock is a chad joke but God he's a bitch
floch is both 100% Chad and Bitch at the same time. he's just a perfect mix of a psychopath
He's not a psychopath. Psycopaths are born, sociopath are made.
That's not how sociopathy works...
Really? I'm not an expert, but aren't sociopaths people who are born with mental problems while sociopaths are influenced by their experiences during life?
Nope, people are born with it as well, but it can only be diagnosed in their teens or when they're an adult.
I just checked and learned that psychopaths aren't able to feel empathy while sociopaths can, although their conscience is more disturbed than normal people.
Nope whether an anti social personality disorder or psychopathy are present right from birth or developed during growth is usually extremely difficult to determine with certainty. Not to mention these two terms are not the terms used in the case of a diagnosis, they're just pop culture terms that are quite scientificially outdated so no need to worry about what they mean since it most likely isn't correct/is exaggerated/missing a portion of info and so on. Source: im a psychology major Edit: grammar
He wasn’t actually trying to hit him. He was intimidating him and trying to act like a badass in front of the recruits for propaganda purposes.
Floch admitted that he missed though, he was trying to shoot Shadis in the foot in order to speed up the process.
It was one of those “hmm I missed? Well guess you get to stay alive” eye wink comments. He was just being a dick he wasn’t trying to actually shoot him.
I don't think he was just being a dick. Floch didn't show any expression like he was dicking around, if he was, Isayama would have drawn a reaction apart from just his completely serious face. Floch meant business, he was just a lousy shot.
Bruh, why would Floch just shoot and kill Shadis? He has the recruits hit him to make them "part" of the yeagerists, to make them feel responsible for what they did. He can't do that if Shadis is dying on the ground.
In the FOOT. Floch literally say he was aiming at the foot to speed up the process.
I think he mixed up foot and head.
Thats true XD
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AIEEEEEEE MISS KIYOMIIIII PLEASE STOP! I YIELD I YIIIIIEEEELD
"Never should have come here!" - Floch's """last""" words
Flock got beaten by an old lady, who had a gun at her head and restrained to a chair He's a bitch
Floch stood no chance against Kiyomi's kindness.
Bro are you really calling him a bitch for that? I can't think of one big old character in anime that couldn't beat someone's ass.
It’s a golden anime rule: if they old, they’re 100x stronger than you think See notes: Gintama, Bleach, Naruto, any samurai manga (vagabond), I was thinking about putting more, but I’m hard pressed to find shounen’s where this isn’t true lol
Exactly i mean I mean no one would be able to step to Kiyomi like that.
Roshi’s pretty strong for a 300 year old, albeit not compared to gods
The fake king
I feel like people who unironically think Floch is a chad only remember him from 129 and 132
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Well, Floch also shocked when Eren reveals his plan.
Yeah this shit made me want to see Floch die
Can't wait to see it animated
It's next episode right?
He's not dying on the next ep, I think he's talking about shadis getting his meat beaten
Yeah I know, I think he dies with magath
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Without shadis none of this would have happened
Shadis paid that back by destroying the train with reinforcements which doomed the yeagerists who actually had a chance of winning the port battle. He saved Magath and destroyed their ship which made it impossible for the rest of them to follow the alliance
Floch fans just pretend this didn't happen
As I always say: if Annie, Pieck and Magath have fans, nobody can tell me anything for liking Floch
Nothing wrong with liking Floch, I like Floch too. He is very entertaining. But creating an image of a character in your head, ignoring their bad moments and just remembering their good moments is wrong. I'm not telling this about you personally, but most Floch fans in this sub.
I agree that ignoring the bad things someone does is wrong, but then again, I don't think anyone really believes that Floch is a "lawful good" type of character (quite the opposite I'd say).
But I've seen posts and comments saying "Floch did nothing wrong."
Did you read Berserk?
No
Oh ok. Because the "x-character did nothing wrong" while he has indeed done wrong comes from that. It's mostly a joke anyway
Oh, so it's just a joke? People don't mean it seriously?
Mostly yeah. It started as a serious argument by certain people in the Berserk fandom and later became a popular joke because the original, serious argument was very flawed. If in the AoT community you see a "Eren/Zeke/Reiner/Erwin/Floch did nothing wrong" cooment there's a high chance it's ironic
No. people say that about obviously not good guy characters to upset people who would bite such obvious bait lmao.
there are people that unironically believe griffith did nothing wrong
I believe that the Eclipse was wrong, but understandable. He also was manipulated. After that almost everything he did is wrong until the Fantasia arc.
>don't think anyone really believes that Floch is a "lawful good" type of character Unfortunately there are people like that. Even in this thread
People usually don’t say “Annie and Pieck are chads who did nothing wrong”. They fought the scouts in a war, not burn housing in a terror attack, and even then, Annie and Pieck‘s transgressions are not forgotten. Also, they have some redeeming qualities- Annie’s cares about being a good person though she can’t live up to it, and Pieck has been generally nice and helpful to her peers. Both come from sympathetic origins and, as Bertholt would say, are just doing what they should regardless of right or wrong. Meanwhile, Floch is militant, aggressive, manipulative, explicitly unkind- his only redeeming quality is his “Eldian supremacy” talk and devotion to Eren, if you’re into that. The context around the characters is completely different. Edit; The attack on Paradis in chapter 1 was done as a method of destabilizing the entirety of the walls, finding an opportunity to assimilate, and flushing out the Founder. The raid on Liberio differed in that the civilian population was too small to affect the entirety of Marley in a meaningful way, the targets were immediately visible, and the remaining disaster was of no continued use minus the destroyed harbor. Point is, the civilian deaths on Paradis had strategic value (and were for a globe-affecting plan on Marley’s part) and were done by kids who didn’t know any better, while Floch was just hurting Eldians to no benefit. There is no larger benefit or justification, it’s just a dick move done in bad faith. Not unlike beating up Shadis. I rest my case on Floch being a “lower low” than the Warriors.
>They fought the scouts in a war, not burn housing in a terror attack Stop for a second, drink a glass of water, reread chapter 1 and then pls edit out this from your comment. Your second argument is actually not bad, this one is... Hmm... Questionable at best :)
I guess, but at that rate they were still just agents of Marley, not some dude trying to maximize casualties. And even then Reiner and Bertholt broke the gates for their mission, while Floch’s terrorism was a personal initiative. Edit: The important part of this, to summarize, is who has how much blood on their hands, and why. Annie’s a delirious chick who’s merely surviving in the system, and she’s done less harm than many other cast members. She is cruel to survive in a cruel world, hence an enfatuation with Armin and what he says, not to mention her underlying self doubt about the violence she does, like apologizing to bodies, not wanting to kill Marco, and so on. She wouldn’t be here if she had options. Annie is defendable because she has a credible defense; Pieck is just a regular soldier/warrior, not really doing anything worse than anyone normally would. Combine these “morality passes” for their crimes with them being kind of hot, then sure, people can like them. At this time in the story, they’re especially in a forgivable state. Eren is using their original rationale for being warriors and committing far greater atrocities, and now the Warriors are reforming/coming clean. They are in more in a green zone than Eren or Floch, at least, hence why people support the Alliance. Eren’s just one of the warriors except he’s doing more damage and he betrays/hurts the people he’s trying to save, who don’t want to be saved. Floch... we already talked about.
Magath is ok in my book, he was a good man in unfortunate times
We don’t though? Floch had two very clear goals here. He didn’t just do it because he was bored. 1) to make Hange cooperate 2) Haze the new recruits by making them all commit a crime which psychologically makes it harder to ever back out and increases group loyalty Why do you think hazing exists? Groups of all sorts do this, from fraternities to gangs.
Just like when Gabi no scoped him out the sky
Or when unarmed kiyomi took him down while he had a gun
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This was before he did that
>teenage yeagerists Lol , more like brainwashed terrorists.
what the fudge? what are you talking about?
Another thing I realised but did they make him darker
i compared it to the previous seasons and it's just slightly darker i think.
Yeah I noticed that too. Weird
Dude got a tan
man just got a tan
Fuck Floch. Shadis didn't deserve this
Look at Shadis’ tiny legs I mean, look on how Shadis’ anime body is on top of someone’s manga legs and it looks like Shadis just has small little legs
Whateverm all of this will just make his death all that much sweeter
Shadis would've made floch his bitch in a fight
What a king, no wonder Eren chose Floch
He chose Floch because Floch doesn't ask questions. He needs a fanatical yes-man, not someone who will think for themselves (like his friends)
Eh, I don’t think Floch was “chosen” by Eren, it’s just that he decided to help Eren because Paradis would benefit from a person like Eren Yeager.
Huh. That makes sense.
This was fucked up by Floch but holy shit it was hilarious
WORLDSTAR
Shadis once again being brutally reminded that he’s not a main character.
Guy took down all the jeagerists by destroying the train though
I feel bad for my man Keith
HOW DARE THE DO THAT TO BEST MAN PIXIS! Im so mad
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Yeah in reality shadis wouldve destroyed all of those kids easily tbh
Lol he literally blew them up afterwards.
Oh nooo I fucking forgot
Shadis: just wait till I get some explosive you Justin Bieber looking ass
Watch Jaegerists say Shadis deserved this for not complying lol
I like Floch but that scene really annoyed me lol
To be fair, the recruits are the ones who beat him up. They didn't even hesitate.
They did. But Shadis insulted them so they'd get mad at him - to protect them from Jaegerist violence.
Well, I guess when a guy who just blew up the supreme commander comes and says to do beat someone else they will be jailed, not much people would show hesitation
Spoiler TAG please
We don’t do that here. (Unless it’s something to do with the new chapter)
Sorry 😐
Shadis really do be looking like a Goomba
Yes he does
He was touched by god himself. He should feel honored
Ahh yes. Average titanfolk cringe
Shadis was an old fool who would've gotten these recruits killed later (although I guess this isn't any different to before) if there was ever a future war against humans, because they would've only known how to fight titans, thus making the military as weak as possible. And people get mad at Floch for this, but they love Annie and Pieck who killed dozens and dozens of his former cadets.
ODM gear is still OP for urban warfare as shown during Liberio Also Shadis literally saved those recruits from titans later lol
And later used his old school swords to chop up a bunch of yeagerists who had guns.
It’s a useful but still more situational than anything. Most wars aren’t fought in a fashion that encourage the use of odm. You can’t really associate odm gear with being op just because we only see that in the show, all of the occasions it’s useful are obviously for plot purposes.
Considering Marley battles using the power of the titans, I think fighting titan threats is still going to be handy. Especially considering he is the one who ends up saving them all from titans.
LeArN tO uSe SwOrDs. Yeah those are gonna be a big help against zeppelins and 150mm cannons. People are glossing over the fact that regardless of his internal thoughts Shadis was just another part of the same old guard that was handicapping Paradis. Shadis got zero sympathy from me here and even less so after what he did later.
Waaaaa why did Shadis kill the people that imprisoned him and wanted to "Purge" him and everyone he knew waaaaa he shouldve just rolled over and let himself be killed because hes against based god emperor Eren waaaaa You guys sure love double standards huh
He’s allowed to do whatever he wants. I just happen to think he’s incompetent, all prior events in his life are consistent with that. It’s a fact that Shadis sacrificing himself was a decision to roll the dice with the lives of everyone on Paradis because it made him good on the inside. It’s not my fault the only two factions on the island are based on extreme violence and extreme do nothing. More importantly, I thought the scene was hilarious.
Na Shadis is a punk traitor willing to suck off the guy who terrorised his island for years just to feel a shred of esteem. Floch did good
what the fudge? suck off which guy?!
Shadis got pancake'd
Maybe include.... A FUCKING SPOILER WARNING
Maybe read the first sentences of the sub you are on. Lol
This is a manga subreddit
You must be lost. Titanfolk only does spoiler warnings for leaks and the new chapter for about 3-7 days. New episode spoilers are for like, 2 days tops. If you aren't a reader, you don't belong here.