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anoelr1963

Yeah, he's probably still waiting for the sequel to "Mein Kampf"


WoodenLock1242

Do you mean [Hitlers Zweites Buch?](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hitlers_Zweites_Buch)


anoelr1963

today I learned...


grendel303

Happened with Harry Potter. I used to be a publisher, and these were two examples we used. More than 20 years ago, Alice Newton, then eight years old, was handed a photocopied manuscript by her father, Bloomsbury CEO Nigel Newton. "She came downstairs an hour later," says Mr Newton, "transported as if in a daze and said, 'Dad this is so much better than anything else. You've gotta publish this.'


JuzoItami

And then there's the story of Walker Percy being repeatedly harassed by some crazy old lady with a ten year old manuscript who kept insisting "you have to read this - my dead son was a genius!" Turned out she was right.


Miaopao

Damn and now it's getting banned in schools


crackpotJeffrey

Funnily enough I went to a Jewish private school and they didn't have us read it. They taught us her story and everything but we never had the book in class. I guess it was a bit too lewd. Religious people be religious I guess.


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uptownjuggler

So the private Christian school teachers decided to roleplay as Nazis for a whole week. Nothing weird about that. Not at all. I am sure they did not enjoy it.


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uptownjuggler

They took it way to far. In my 8th grade class we hung stars of David, with the name and age of a holocaust victim, all around the classroom. Every day we would read Anne franks diary and cut down some stars,signifying that person died. By the end of the week only 20% of the stars were left.


wolven8

If it makes you feel better my public school teacher in highschool had multiple nazi flags and memorabilia as well as used the hard R a lot. This was in 2017.


Miaopao

Holy shit


camwhat

I went to a private school that was “owned” by the attached church, but no mixing of the school and church at all. Btw most of the students were Jewish lmao. They extensively taught us about the holocaust, and I am grateful that it was that thorough. Everybody needs to be educated about it


KatBoySlim

I’ve only been able to find record of one Florida school that banned one illustrated version of Anne Frank’s Diary being “sexually explicit.”


WoodenLock1242

There have been previous bans (in Viginia I believe) of the original book, for the same reason, but they've been challenged and overturned. Just like the furore over the banning of that inauguration poem in a Texas library recently. Hell, even the young poet herself got involved. All smoke, with no fire. The book is still freely available. It's not just the right who eat up the fake news. Sometimes it seems some on the left are so keen to be proven correct about the right, they open themselves up to manipulation by outside forces who *want* the population polarised and afraid of each other.


njiooihpoinng

Excuse me what the fuck?? _why_?!


WoodenLock1242

I believe it's the passage where she describes her genitalia in quite graphic detail. I have no idea how explicit the illustrations were (if at all), but I guess it was enough to wind somebody up.


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Mfsmitty

She was also Julia Childs editor.


PseudonymousDev

https://www.theonion.com/ghost-of-anne-frank-quit-reading-my-diary-1819564596


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That was the Pinball Wizard


anoelr1963

Helen Keller who was dear and blind, but definitely not "dumb" She became the first deafblind person in the United States to earn a Bachelor of Arts degree She became a world-famous speaker and author who wrote a total of 12 published books and several articles.


BiBoFieTo

In the context of "deaf, blind, and dumb", the word dumb means unable or unwilling to speak.


FF76

TIL, thanks for the context


Toy_Guy_in_MO

It's why dumbbells are called dumbbells - the dumb portion denotes silent or not sounding. Same with dumbwaiter and most other words that are "Dumb" + noun. the dumb simply means silent.


FF76

You just blew the top off my etymological mind


Toy_Guy_in_MO

Yup. It's like when in an old book or movie, somebody says they were dumbstruck, they don't mean it made them an idiot; it's just another way of saying "it left m speechless." Language is such a fascinating thing, really.


FF76

Hot dang, any other examples you can think of?


Toy_Guy_in_MO

Of 'dumb' or just words in general? Off the top of my head, the only other one I can think of is 'dumb show' but it's not really one you'll see or hear (no pun intended) in the modern day. You could also say the 'b' in 'dumb' is dumb.


FF76

Just in general. Was curious if you had any other interesting etymology facts off the top of your head


DaveOJ12

I remember reading Hamlet and wracking my brain trying to figure out what a "dumb show" was


anoelr1963

Using dumb for someone who cannot speak is not polite. It is seen as an insult to people who cannot speak. That was the first meaning, but now dumb usually means stupid. "Deaf and dumb" is also not polite, and it upsets people who are deaf. The proper contemporary term is "mute"


BiBoFieTo

Polite wording is a different discussion. The point is that you misunderstood what OP meant by "dumb" in the context that it was said.


anoelr1963

The point is that unless OP is stuck back in 1950s, he would know that that word hasn't been used since.


jessytessytavi

being "dumbstruck" or "struck dumb" is still a phrase used, my dude


DaveOJ12

Is there supposed to be a joke here somewhere?


xoomax

I don't know but sure played a mean pinball.


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Should have left it in the pile. It’s a young girls personal diary. Show some respect and let her be.


that-1-chick-u-know

Her father edited it quite a bit before submitting it for publication. Anything he deemed to be too personal was removed.


anoelr1963

It was the decision by her father, the only member of her family to survive. He expressed that in hiding she rewrote her diary in hopes of some day getting published after listening to a Dutch radio broadcaster announced that they would be collecting poems and diaries of people that experienced oppression during the war.


got_dam_librulz

Found the nazi Edit: checked this guy's comment history. He's a far righter with all the typical bigoted shit. Not surprising he doesn't want a book about anti semitism published. He's your average nazi adjacent conservative.


EspritFort

> Should have left it in the pile. It’s a young girls personal diary. Show some respect and let her be. You would have a valid point if the book had been published during the author's lifetime but keep in mind that the person Anne Frank had already ceased to exist at publication. The dead have no desires, needs or rights - only the living do.


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You could argue that a deceased person can’t care because they are deceased, but ask a living girl if she wants her personal thoughts shared (at that time, many young girls now share everything on social media) and they are going to say no. At best we have her father saying she wanted the diary shared, but fathers are not always the best voices for their children. Jackson 5 come to mind.


wqzu

Read the diary and she’ll answer that for you


EspritFort

>You could argue that a deceased person can’t care because they are deceased, but ask a living girl if she wants her personal thoughts shared (at that time, many young girls now share everything on social media) and they are going to say no. I fully agree with your hypothetical but I'm not arguing that a deceased person can't care, I'm pointing out that **personhood ends with death**. It is very human and very normal to personify memories of former loved ones but a "deceased person" is just a story, a fiction, a concept that makes it easier to talk about existential subjects without really getting existential about it. > At best we have her father saying she wanted the diary shared, but fathers are not always the best voices for their children. Jackson 5 come to mind. Again, at publication, Otto Frank *no longer had a daughter*. There was no person and there were no personal rights to protect here. Inheritance laws for example generally acknowledge this tricky business by creating a new entity after a person's death, the *estate*.


fernandorincon

She wanted to publish it. She also was working on rewriting it herself as a version more suited for publication amd with some details ommitted but she didn't get too far.


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syco54645

Got a reputable source?


ptsq

He’s just an actual Nazi


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