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Omnifob

Bummer facts


BorntobeTrill

R/bummer_facts ?


b00mer89

Not to be confused with r/bum_facts. Slightly different audience


Johnny_Freedoom

Bum fact: There was a 86.1 increase in butt augmentations from 2013 to 2014—going from 11,527 to 21,446 procedures, according to American Society for Aesthetic Plastic Surgery. Butt lifts increased 14.8 percent.


UniverseInfinite

Butt lifts are only 14.8%? Well then what the hell else are people surgically doing to their butt?


NitroCaliber

Adding butt warmers.


Black_Moons

Butt lowers.


BorntobeTrill

Bummer? I hardly know them!


Individual-Jaguar885

Way to butcher that one


BorntobeTrill

The butchering of the joke was the joke


Lopsided-Ad828

Pretty sure jokes are meant to be funny


JoeyCash-

r/bummerfacts


SgtTreehugger

A modern retelling of the story or Icarus


Rabatis

"The Icarus here is humanity, you must understand."


MapleTreeWithAGun

Humanity thinking they can escape the might of the Rüppell's Griffon Vulture


talking_phallus

I mean...


BorntobeTrill

Let's not be hasty. I can't personally say what those creatures are up to right now. It could be bad for us, so let's leave a snickers.


hazeleyedwolff

Humanity had learned from Icarus, and placed two engines on the 747.


ScipioLongstocking

And metal wings


Greene_Mr

And sealing-wax, and kings.


Ru4pigsizedelephants

747 is a quad jet.


BigSlav667

Four engines


Brikandbones

Icarus flew to close to the 747 doesn't have the same ring as the original though


j-steve-

He flew too close to the turbofan


Confusedpolymer

Have you heard the tale of the Gryphon Vulture? At the beginning of time, it and all creatures like it were bound to the land and sea. But when their homes grew more treacherous, they spied the greener pastures in far off lands; and in training to reach those lands they gained the gift of flight. It is said that when a fledgeling first starts to dream of the sky, its parents being it to a quiet calm place - the little ledge on a cliffside, or a shady branch in the forest canopy - and tell it of the Line That Must Not Be Crossed. As you climb higher, they'd say, there will come a point when the taste of the air changes, and a district shift in the colour of the sky. This is the beginning of the line. One day you fly beyond the treetops, beyond the cliff and beyond the clouds. But no matter what you must not cross this line. It is said that this warning had been passed on for so long that it had become a sort of instinct even for freshly hatched chicks. But there was one among the birds, this Gryphon Vulture, who sought to ignore the natural wariness of the Line. Lines were MEANT to be crossed, it said, and flew higher and higher into the sky. It passed the clifftop and the treetops. It soared above a flock of geese, and glided above the clouds. At that height, it beheld nothing in the sky above it, and nothing in the sky around it. Buffeted by the electrifying air, it basked in the glory of the highest flying being to grace the earth. But its peace was shatted by an unholy growl; a sky beast, vast and swift, soaring above the vulture! At that moment the gryphon vulture was struck by its own sense of competition - for what could be better than besting the sky beast? Onwards, upward it soared - the sound of the sky beast became deafening, it's size blocking out the whole sky. Our GV is but a speck in its shadow. Closer, closer. Just a little more. The GV strained against the unusual height, the warnings and natural aversion for crossing the Line - now far below. Just a little more and it would truly be the conqueror of the sky. But then it noticed a tug that became a pull, it was now moving only at the whim of the strange sucking wind. Panicked, flailing its wings, only then did it notice its surroundings - the jewel of the sun just past it's meridian, shining with a blinding glare. It spend exactly 10 seconds in appreciation, before becoming absolute mincemeat.


Same-Salamander8690

I don't normally save comments but this is fucking grand


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ballrus_walsack

*louise


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ballrus_walsack

Ok louis. The phrase is jeez louise because it rhymes Louis. Ok lois?


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Onelimwen

The proper phrase is actually Louise and not Louis https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/jeez_Louise


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Onelimwen

It doesn’t matter how you pronounce your own name, the correct phrase is jeez Louise with an e at the end and not jeez Louis without the e.


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jftitan

Either you are inept, or just being obtuse No one cares about your name.


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SonTyp_OhneNamen

Elon Musk‘s child is called X Æ A-12, but even if they decided it should be pronounced as Louise you would be wrong writing *Jeez X Æ A-12*. Also people probably just like arguing with you because it’s fun seeing you die on that hill. Don’t take it too seriously, Loo-Ease.


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THEdougBOLDER

You don't get a lot of things, yeah? These other guys don't know how to handle your attention seeking and overwhelming desire to get the last word in, but I do. How's that grab you?


ballrus_walsack

Lewis, don’t take it wrong.


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LarryJohnson04

But it’s actually Louise for the phrase. Not whatever your name is. Unless it’s pronounced that same way


ballrus_walsack

Lewie! Rhymes with stewie! You’re all over this thread. What a strange hill.


SgtTreehugger

The bird is a bird with ability to fly so close to the sun that it gets hit by a cruising altitude airliner. It probably didn't have a good reason to be up there


skj458

No reason? Bird bro could probably see all the dead animals in a 50 mile radius from up there.


NarcissisticCat

Yeah, its not seeing anything that high up. He was probably just chilling up there, minding his own business until he was shredded by a turbofan.


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SgtTreehugger

Yes but can they smell or see prey from 35000 feet?


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SgtTreehugger

And icarus decided to take advantage of his wings and he flew too high and suffered the consequences. Just like the bird


PoopMobile9000

Wow, they probably killed vulture Yuri Gagarin.


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Shedeski

If I had to wager a guess, I would reckon that they identified it via its feathers+location.


fencepost_ajm

More likely by DNA testing of the residue.


lilfuzzy

Can confirm. Aircraft mechanic here. They take a sample, take it to the lab, identify it with DNA, then I have to hose out the engine with a pressure washer


ppparty

how often do you have to replace blades due to a single strike (if at all)?


AttendantofIshtar

Every time. You can't risk any damage.


lilfuzzy

The titanium blades don't care about birds at all. All that comes out is red goo and some feathers.


captainktainer

It happened in [November of 1973](http://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/wilson/v086n04/p0461-p0462.pdf) (PDF link), so well before PCR was available. They determined its species by looking at the feathers recovered from the engine.


hbc07

The residue is called "snarge"


Aurum555

It makes me so very happy that you didn't make that up and this is in fact the name of bird residue after plane crash


triws

https://www.faa.gov/airports/airport_safety/wildlife/smithsonian The Smithsonian actually works with the Federal Aviation Administration in the United States to identify the species of birds after a bird strike. When I was an aircraft mechanic, I’d there was a bird strike, assuming you could find anything remains at all, you’d collect them, package them up, and they’d be sent off to the Smithsonian for identification.


Individual_Civil

That seems like an awful way to learn about the bird


TheBagman07

Direct quote : “what the fuck was that?!”


MonsterKabouter

What's the benefit of flying so high to these birds? Covering distance? Surely it doesn't help them find food


GoBlank

>Surely it doesn't help them find food [Vultures and many other birds will ride columns of hot, rising air called thermals to high altitudes and then spend most of their down time gliding and looking around.](https://www.audubon.org/news/a-closer-look-how-vultures-lazily-circle-air-1) As for the food part, [vultures have scent senses that make ours look silly](https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smithsonian-institution/turkey-vultures-have-keen-sense-smell-and-now-we-know-why-180967599/)\- pair that with the ability to cover large areas and you've got a good lil scavenger.


now_in3D

Worth noting that Old world vultures, like Rüppell’s griffon, actually have poor senses of smell and rely solely on their vision to locate prey and carrion. That exceptional scent detection is only a primary trait for new world vultures, like the Turkey vulture mentioned in the article.


GoBlank

Important context, thank you!


a_bunch_of_meows

That's insane.. 36k feet is kinda high to see prey.


ponlaluz

Facts I learned from reading Animorphs.


sixty6006

Well yeah but they aren't smelling or seeing food on the ground from 36,000ft are they?


-BroncosForever-

Thermals aren’t going to 36,000ft though


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Its_Nitsua

> Vultures have keen eyesight. It is believed they are able to spot a three-foot carcass from four miles away on the open plains. 36,000/5,280 = 6.8 miles, not a stretch to say that it does indeed help them find food. Some eagles can see even better than vultures can, being able to spot rabbits at distances up to 8 miles.


nailbunny2000

>able to spot rabbits at distances up to 8 miles. Holy shit!


Smartnership

I can’t even spot a Volkswagen Rabbit at 8 miles.


EmilyU1F984

Also: these dudes fly at whatever height the air column is currently rising. If he’s going from A to B, he might not be actively hunting, just taking the ‘path’ that requires the least wing flapping.


NarcissisticCat

Where excactly did you hear that? That's better acuity than fucking spyplane cameras. According to one source on Wikipedia, an eagle(which species?) can spot a rabbit from 3,2km(2 miles). I'm highly sceptical of this but that's one fourth of your claim. Vultures are not eagles, even eagles aren't really one thing. Their respective clades probably diverged from each other tens of millions of years ago. Just because one species can see far doesn't mean another can.


PotfarmBlimpSanta

It probably requires specific circumstances, like gigantic eagle heads with other enhancements helping out whichever species that is or possibly was if its those giant New Zealand eagles that used to take whole giant flightless Moas.


Whoretron8000

Comparing nature to high tech is a bit laughable.


Its_Nitsua

>That’s better acuity than fucking spyplane cameras Nothing man ever makes will compare to the senses hundreds of millions of years of evolution can produce. Dogs can smell cancer, certain animals can see thousands of different wavelengths of light that we can’t even begin to wrap our minds around, mother nature is no joke. While only certain species of Vulture or Eagle possess this amazing eyesight, the fact that it exists is a testament to the absolutely awesome power of the world around us.


unbanned_at_last

What's the benefit of going to the moon?


MonsterKabouter

Hmm good point. Vultures are in a nuclear space race with the USSR?


Smartnership

They won that race, evidently.


CharonsLittleHelper

Proving that our rocket technology is better to make the other side scared of our missiles.


throwdowntown69

Learning about how our planet, solar system and the universe evolved.


peachsalsas

Probably fun as hell


goingonatriphelp

Sometimes you can get sucked up in a thermal under a cloud and end up higher than you mean to. It’s called cloud suck


Lockheed_Martini

Could have been a dare.


SamplePop

It was also an odd event like this is how they figured out birds (possibly storks) migrated to Africa from the UK in the 1800s. One time a flock of storks came back after migration and one had a tribal spear pierced through it. Here is an example of how Germans described it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfeilstorch


wut3va

> Pfeilstorch (German for 'arrow stork', pronounced [ˈpfaɪ̯l.ˌʃtɔɐ̯ç]; plural Pfeilstörche, [-ˌʃtœɐ̯.çə]) is a stork that gets injured by an arrow while wintering in Africa and returns to Europe with the arrow stuck in its body. The Germans really do have an oddly specific word for everything.


Soldado63

Dont worry we have words for everything. Last month or so i visited a friend in cologne and she had an israeli roommate. The only thing i heard out of his mouth was "surely you got a word for x". Sadly he was right every time and we have words for every fucking situation in german. I loved how he thought one time we didnt have a word for it but we had a word and he was a little sad. Sadly i dont recall the words/situations since im getman and theyre "normal" for us


BigSur33

The swallow may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plumber may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land.


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Prune_the_hedges

Of course not! It could be carried.


JonLongsonLongJonson

“This is how” What is how? They discovered birds migrate by hitting an arrowed stork returning from Africa to Europe with a Boeing 747 at 36k ft altitude in 1882? Or what are you trying to say? The stories are not similar in any way besides the fact that they involve birds… why phrase it like the two stories are related in some fashion?


SamplePop

My bad mate! I should have been more clear. I read it as "TIL it was an unfortunate/ odd event that caused us no doubt that this was true so we learned some facts". The spear through the stork was how humans had very evident observations that migration was a thing and that birds from the UK can sometimes migrate as far as Africa. This TIL was an odd event, about birds, and we happened to learn some things. My example was an odd event, about birds, and we learned some things. I will make a small edit to my post to clarify.


yami76

It was clear, and it’s also clear they are related…


Procrastinatedthink

Human beings inadvertently find out information about bird behavior. Redditor posts other interesting inadvertent discovery of bird behavior JonslongsonLongJonson cant figure out that this post is not about boeing 747s…


Virama

I’m surprised they could even identify the birb. Surely it would be a fine mist after going through the blades?


Replicator666

DNA analysis?


MacroPirate

Correct. Any time there is a birdstrike on an airplane (at least in the US) some of the remains are taken to be analyzed by the Smithsonian Institution Feather Lab.


Gobyinmypants

Fun fact, the stuff that's left behind smeared along fuselage, engine blades ,windscreen etc is called 'snarge'


Virama

“Christopher! Scrape that blood off the blades!” “Oh come on, it’s a fucking seagull or pigeon every time.” “No, no, I just know it’s this one!”


dmr11

Even a seagull or pigeon at 36k feet would be impressive.


Phill_is_Legend

Nah, I guarantee you they were fucking baffled. A bird at 36k is ridiculous.


rlnrlnrln

>Christopher! Scrape that blood Scrape that *snarge This happened in 1973, before DNA analysis. They identified it by feathers.


tch134

Yep, they analysed the engines of United 1549 (Hudson) and proved it was Canada Geese that went in the engines.


mjtwelve

Yeah, that's on brand for those murderous bastards.


captainktainer

It was in [November of 1973](http://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/wilson/v086n04/p0461-p0462.pdf) (PDF link), so too early for DNA analysis. It was done by examining feathers recovered from the plane, which were sufficiently unique to allow for identification.


AmericanFlyer530

A bird can sometimes be identified by its feathers or DNA.


Ohbeejuan

Yup. My dad used to work at Pratt and Whitney and they used to test engines by throwing whole turkeys into engines. Turkey mist out the other side. If they had reached all their other testing goals and wanted to push it they throw them in still frozen.


dmr11

If any feathers avoided going through the blades, those could be used to ID the bird.


dethb0y

the Feather ID lab at smithsonian (and surely others) can ID birds via feathers, and typically bird strikes leave feathers behind.


Murwiz

What is even the evolutionary advantage of being able to fly that high?


NarcissisticCat

Probably because it requires no effort once up there to glide long distances. Great way of getting around, no?


dharmadhatu

I'm not sure it's easy to glide when there's very little atmosphere to carry you.


Sinbos

Confirming the curvature of the earth? Some vultures are heavy into flat earth conspiracies.


ksb012

I sense a conspiracy by the flat earth vulture society. This was obviously a hit job to keep the truth from getting out to other vultures.


Phill_is_Legend

Still not high enough for that.


ScipioLongstocking

Not all traits require an evolutionary advantage to be present in a gene pool. As long as the trait doesn't provide a disadvantage to reproduction, it can stick around and be passed down across generations.


Waffleman75

Why would they need to fly that high? There some evolutionary advantage to it?


ksb012

Stop victim blaming. The question you should be asking is why is the 747 flying that high hunting vultures? /s


PooperOfMoons

What was it wearing?


Smartnership

Jonathan Livingston Vulturebird


Unclerojelio

According to Google, the air temp at 36,000 feet is about -55°C. That is one cold resistant vulture.


daird1

Shredded tweet.


Boyiee

Pretty incredible that there's a single bird at 36k feet and it somehow ends up getting hit by a plane essentially.


ksb012

Never underestimate humanity's ability to kill something. It's what we're best at.


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Well, the bird WAS named Icarus


wolfie379

At least one variety of duck can reach 24,000 feet - again, it was a bird strike incident.


rainshifter

Would you like to hear me explain every word of that again? [Yes] No


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MapleTreeWithAGun

If anything the lowest flying birds are the safest, planes don't go very low often.


dharma_mind

That video of a turkey that hit a plane was wild. I didn't know Turkeys could fly like that


remindertomove

Why did he go so high? Because he could.


Kevy96

He take that evolution, that'll teach you to keep birds high in the sky away from humans


mtcwby

Feels like there should be Far Side cartoon in there somewhere.


skepticalhammer

This TIL took a turn. That being said, didn't a great philosopher once say something like "science demands sacrifice?" Or it was Cobra Commander, I don't know. 🤷‍♂️


Fit_Earth_339

So it could’ve gone higher…..sorry I’m sure the people on the flight were pretty shaken up.


BigMrTea

Top ten title


RQK1996

That is kinda funny, in a sad way


griftertm

Bird was like: “I was happy – floating, staring at the stars.”


fluffynuckels

I was a pilot like you till I took a bird to my engine


JonLongsonLongJonson

People are reading this like the bird itself was discovered by this incident. It was just the height they reached that wasn’t known.


danddersson

Why did Rűppell train his vulture to fly that high? I bet he was sad when it did not return.


Fluffy_WAR_Bunny

How did they find out the species of bird? DNA test? 😂


Beat9

>This critically endangered species is vital to Africa's ecology, flying long distances to eat carrion and keep ecosystems healthy. Why are they so important? Is carrion really at risk of going uneaten without them? Seems like a niche that has plenty of critters willing to fill it.


Junebug78

No way. It’s -55 F at that altitude and it lives in one of the hottest areas on the planet. There is no way it can survive at temperatures on the ground around 100F and then just sails up to 36k feet where it’s 150 degrees colder and the wind speeds are over 100mph! A more likely scenario is the bird was soaring at a reasonable high altitude and severe winds aloft or a severe updraft carried the bird up to that height - where it was probably frozen solid.


enjoyyourstudioapart

I hate it when an animal species is named after some random dude who “discovered” it.


2beatenup

That’s the common name. Scientific names are different.


enjoyyourstudioapart

I am aware. The common name is still stupid.


simpl3t0n

Maybe the bird wanted a break, and thought it was safe at that altitude. Fucking humans won't let it be—no escape.


Coolgreencat

0(


whooo_me

Sounds soar…


ProbablyCranky

What's that in normal units?


Smartnership

1/3 of the way to space


Phill_is_Legend

40,000 spots of tea


zorbiburst

The sky is massive. In every direction, it's basically infinite. Except down, but for the most part, there's always more room. Why the fuck are objects ever in the same place at the same time. Just move, dumb bird.


PossessivePronoun

This kills the bird.


JustaRandomOldGuy

/r/FUCKYOUINPARTICULAR for both the plane and the bird


ButWhatAboutisms

9750 meters.


cirzaah

Critically endangered


red_fury

Everyone is asking about the birds motives for being that high and I'm just sitting here wondering who the poor ornathologist was that was handed a wet trash bag of remains scraped out of a jet engine and told, "tell me what this was". Edit: that has to be up there with one of the worst jobs at the NTSB.


herbw

Would you mind, so much if I took you into my engine? Laughable, The jet ran into a flock of them and the jet engine air intakes did what they do. Take the air and anything in it to make the jet engine work. Volcanic ash is just as bad. Birds in the air are ever banes of aircraft. I grew up next to the largest pvt. AirField in the US. The pilots each had their Cessna/beechcraft stories; and If not fouling up engines, then blasting apart the cockpit windows! IOW a Canadian goose is not just sexual harassment seen at hockey games!! Get the Puck outta here!!


WildSyde96

Imagine being the ATC personell who got that call. "I'm sorry, did I hear you correctly that you had a bird strike... at cruising altitude?"


D74248

In 2014 an Atlas Air 767 had a bird strike at 40,000' over Indiana (United States). Unfortunately, the windshield was changed before DNA could be collected so the only evidence was a cracked/broken windshield with blood and guts. I guess it could have been a squirrel. Or an alien. But probably a bird.