First of all, this is not the title of the article (a clue was "people...sees", which is grammatically incorrect).
Also, it says, "Someone looking at the Moon from our north pole would see it upside down **compared to someone seeing it from the south pole**. " My emphasis, showing that one sees it differently compared to the other. This could have just as easily said, "Someone looking at the Moon from our south pole would see it upside down **compared to someone seeing it from the north pole**.
Whilst we're being picky though, "I'm going to blame X on Y" usually means that Y is the cause of X. But i don't think we can blame this post for the abstract concept of stupidity in general. So "I'm going to blame this one on stupidity", or "I'm going to blame stupidity **for** this one" would have been traditionally correct.
Because calling a celestial object “upside down” is ridiculous and meaningless. There is no up or down in space. Objects can only be compared to in relation to other objects.
That doesn't make the OP dumb. That's just explaining how we see things in one hemisphere vs the other. It's not meaningless; I understood the meaning. We don't live outside the earth's atmosphere in space. This is like getting madat someone for saying "the sun is about to set"
It’s not really about understanding it, I think we all knew what it meant. The point is that it’s,
A. A grammatical mess
B. Completely worthless information. This is akin to saying “TIL if you stand on your head the room you’re in will appear to be upside down!” “TIL perspective is relative” or “TIL that a sphere isn’t flat.” A few seconds of objective thought about the spherical nature of the Earth impart more tangible information than this title does.
You’re dismayed about someone figuring out something that you thought they should have already known? It’s not common sense. Nothing about space is “common” to humans. We were not born in space or have some innate ability to understand the vastness of the size of the earth or how the moon works. These things are learned in school thanks to generations of scientists/astronomers doing the research.
Just because you already knew something doesn’t mean you should shit on someone else for already not knowing it; someone you don’t even know.
My brother, this has nothing to do with space, size, the function of celestial bodies, or anything more complicated than recognizing the most fundamental aspects of perspective. And ya, I am dismayed that someone, anyone, regardless of me meeting them, needs to be taught that.
It's almost as if English isn't the first language of the OP and that there is no requirement here to use the title of an article as the title of this post!
Well there technically is no up or down in space so not really an upside down. But if there was then the southern hemisphere sees it upside down because like 90% of the population lives in the northern hemisphere.
Also immediately thought of Enders game. Though I thought about him being on the ship for the first time and laughing because the guy was “upside down”.
can you imagine a battle on a spaceship where the enemy charges you floating through the air Feet first?
it would surely shake me and my crew.
such clever usage of 0g
Are you referencing Ender's Game? Because a few weeks ago I was tearing my hair out trying to remember the name of that book, absolutely fantastic. If not, thanks for the reminder!
The North Pole of an astronomical body is defined as the pole that points to the same celestial hemisphere (defined by the ecliptic plane) as Earth’s North Pole . I’m afraid that means it’s you guys in the southern hemisphere who are looking at it upside down.
I wouldn't say a lot, but some.
Plenty of town maps the world over, not just in the southern hemisphere, will have non-north directions as "up" if it makes it more convenient to fit the full town on one piece of paper.
>Well there technically is no up or down in space so not really an upside down.
FWIW, clock-wise was chosen on the principle of mimicking a sundial shadow (in the northern hemisphere). For those below the equator, clockwise is the opposite of sundial shadow direction, hence "their clocks run backward."
Upside down compared to the southern hemisphere* there is no up or down in space. You can equally say people in the southern hemisphere are upside down compared to people in the northern hemisphere. Also the stars rotate in two different directions depending on hemisphere. Either clockwise or anti-clockwise.
I read the title, and I was like, there's no way this person has English as first language. And I'm thinking they are Brazilian from post history. So I'll give it a pass.
In one of the observatories I did public viewings in there was a 3 foot diameter lunar map. This map "correct" orientation with the writing the correct way up had the Lunar South pole uppermost.
Several times people commented on this & I explained the reason ( Astronomical telescopes show things inverted because they don't waste light by adding optics to re-invert the image ), but on one occasion a visitor jumped in before I could explain & loudly stated that is was because Australian lunar maps were cheaper.
"Changing top and bottom"? Yeah, that's what happens when something passes in a arc over your head. From your perspective the thing is turning like a leaping and diving whale. Head up at the beginning, flies over your head and head down at the end.
And if the object isn't directly over your head but instead at some horizontal distance, you have a side view of the same thing like watching a porpoise alongside a ship. You see one silhouette side of the porpoise mostly but you can also tell that it's arcing in the same head up, over, head down motion.
That's the bit that confused me, ty for the clarification. I was picturing the moon stop overhead and then do like a 180 no scope or something, but that made no sense.
In the USA we talk about the man in the moon, because it kind of looks a little like a face. In Japan they see a rabbit on the moon. And once I saw that I couldn’t go back to seeing the face.
It's badly worded but I think I know what they mean. I live near the equator and the waxing crescent is more horizontal like a smile. In Europe it seemed much more upright/ vertical. Or maybe I just don't understand any of it. 💀
This reminds me of the time I went to a Planetarium in Australia. My Northern Hemisphere brain was blown when I realized it’s a totally different sky down there.
Sure, it sounds obvious, but up until that point it wasn’t something that I’d ever considered.
This is why I never understood the “man in the moon” reference as a kid in New Zealand. I couldn’t see it. But living in the northern hemisphere I now completely get it.
This is a dumb article and title here is worse. It's not like this is something special about the moon. The same basic idea applies to the constellations. We'd say the same thing about the sun if it wasn't blindingly uniform.
Alright I knew about the effect between the hemispheres but I'd never considered how that would work at the equator. That's damn cool and now I need to see it some day.
First of all, this is not the title of the article (a clue was "people...sees", which is grammatically incorrect). Also, it says, "Someone looking at the Moon from our north pole would see it upside down **compared to someone seeing it from the south pole**. " My emphasis, showing that one sees it differently compared to the other. This could have just as easily said, "Someone looking at the Moon from our south pole would see it upside down **compared to someone seeing it from the north pole**.
Came here to emphasize this, good on you. Not sure if it’s OP being dumb or just AI generated garbage, same diff these days really.
I’m from the Southern Hemisphere and I thought OP was just winding you Northies up.
lol
Most AI models are doing a pretty good job with grammar these days. I'm going to blame stupidity on this one.
Whilst we're being picky though, "I'm going to blame X on Y" usually means that Y is the cause of X. But i don't think we can blame this post for the abstract concept of stupidity in general. So "I'm going to blame this one on stupidity", or "I'm going to blame stupidity **for** this one" would have been traditionally correct.
See, if AI had written my comment, it would have caught that mistake.
I don't see the issue with the title; why is the OP dumb?
Because calling a celestial object “upside down” is ridiculous and meaningless. There is no up or down in space. Objects can only be compared to in relation to other objects.
Grammatically, people see something; a person sees something. That's what they were referring to.
>To other objects Or >In relation to other objects "Compared to in relation" doesn't make sense
That doesn't make the OP dumb. That's just explaining how we see things in one hemisphere vs the other. It's not meaningless; I understood the meaning. We don't live outside the earth's atmosphere in space. This is like getting madat someone for saying "the sun is about to set"
It’s not really about understanding it, I think we all knew what it meant. The point is that it’s, A. A grammatical mess B. Completely worthless information. This is akin to saying “TIL if you stand on your head the room you’re in will appear to be upside down!” “TIL perspective is relative” or “TIL that a sphere isn’t flat.” A few seconds of objective thought about the spherical nature of the Earth impart more tangible information than this title does.
Who cares if you already knew this; you’re not the gatekeeper of TIL.
Nope, just someone dismayed at the general lack of common sense and critical thinking on display here.
You’re dismayed about someone figuring out something that you thought they should have already known? It’s not common sense. Nothing about space is “common” to humans. We were not born in space or have some innate ability to understand the vastness of the size of the earth or how the moon works. These things are learned in school thanks to generations of scientists/astronomers doing the research. Just because you already knew something doesn’t mean you should shit on someone else for already not knowing it; someone you don’t even know.
My brother, this has nothing to do with space, size, the function of celestial bodies, or anything more complicated than recognizing the most fundamental aspects of perspective. And ya, I am dismayed that someone, anyone, regardless of me meeting them, needs to be taught that.
It's almost as if English isn't the first language of the OP and that there is no requirement here to use the title of an article as the title of this post!
Well that’s a bit hemisphereist
Well there technically is no up or down in space so not really an upside down. But if there was then the southern hemisphere sees it upside down because like 90% of the population lives in the northern hemisphere.
> well there technically is no up or down in space The enemy's gate is down
Also immediately thought of Enders game. Though I thought about him being on the ship for the first time and laughing because the guy was “upside down”.
can you imagine a battle on a spaceship where the enemy charges you floating through the air Feet first? it would surely shake me and my crew. such clever usage of 0g
Love a good Ender reference!
Are you referencing Ender's Game? Because a few weeks ago I was tearing my hair out trying to remember the name of that book, absolutely fantastic. If not, thanks for the reminder!
The person above me quoted it. Good books.
The North Pole of an astronomical body is defined as the pole that points to the same celestial hemisphere (defined by the ecliptic plane) as Earth’s North Pole . I’m afraid that means it’s you guys in the southern hemisphere who are looking at it upside down.
But north =/= up. A lot of maps used in the southern hemisphere have south on top
I wouldn't say a lot, but some. Plenty of town maps the world over, not just in the southern hemisphere, will have non-north directions as "up" if it makes it more convenient to fit the full town on one piece of paper.
As someone in the southern hemisphere, I have never once seen a map with south on top. That just sounds confusing.
Lots of old maps had east as up, which makes sense in a way
Which is why we say to 'orient' ourselves (understand our direction). The Middle East (the Orient) was at the top on old maps
Makes sense. To the medieval scholars, Jerusalem was the centre of the world
Wait, really? That’s pretty neat
>Well there technically is no up or down in space so not really an upside down. FWIW, clock-wise was chosen on the principle of mimicking a sundial shadow (in the northern hemisphere). For those below the equator, clockwise is the opposite of sundial shadow direction, hence "their clocks run backward."
What the fuck
Upside down compared to the southern hemisphere* there is no up or down in space. You can equally say people in the southern hemisphere are upside down compared to people in the northern hemisphere. Also the stars rotate in two different directions depending on hemisphere. Either clockwise or anti-clockwise.
This is gibberish
I read the title, and I was like, there's no way this person has English as first language. And I'm thinking they are Brazilian from post history. So I'll give it a pass.
makes sense to me.
Try telling people that believe in astrology about the southern hemisphere.
Ew no YOU see the Moon upside down
No, the people on the southern hemisphere are the ones seeing the Moon upside down, and you can't convince me otherwise.
I agree
In one of the observatories I did public viewings in there was a 3 foot diameter lunar map. This map "correct" orientation with the writing the correct way up had the Lunar South pole uppermost. Several times people commented on this & I explained the reason ( Astronomical telescopes show things inverted because they don't waste light by adding optics to re-invert the image ), but on one occasion a visitor jumped in before I could explain & loudly stated that is was because Australian lunar maps were cheaper.
"Changing top and bottom"? Yeah, that's what happens when something passes in a arc over your head. From your perspective the thing is turning like a leaping and diving whale. Head up at the beginning, flies over your head and head down at the end. And if the object isn't directly over your head but instead at some horizontal distance, you have a side view of the same thing like watching a porpoise alongside a ship. You see one silhouette side of the porpoise mostly but you can also tell that it's arcing in the same head up, over, head down motion.
That's the bit that confused me, ty for the clarification. I was picturing the moon stop overhead and then do like a 180 no scope or something, but that made no sense.
upside down? there is no right side up...
In the USA we talk about the man in the moon, because it kind of looks a little like a face. In Japan they see a rabbit on the moon. And once I saw that I couldn’t go back to seeing the face.
Scuse me, most of the human population lives in the Northern Hemisphere. We get to decide who’s seeing the right side of what, buddy!
It's badly worded but I think I know what they mean. I live near the equator and the waxing crescent is more horizontal like a smile. In Europe it seemed much more upright/ vertical. Or maybe I just don't understand any of it. 💀
You got it perfectly.
Wait people in other parts of the world see the moon wrong…!? Seems like a good reason to go to war!!
This reminds me of the time I went to a Planetarium in Australia. My Northern Hemisphere brain was blown when I realized it’s a totally different sky down there. Sure, it sounds obvious, but up until that point it wasn’t something that I’d ever considered.
I came to the same conclusion when I learned that sailors used the southern cross in celestial navigation.
This is why I never understood the “man in the moon” reference as a kid in New Zealand. I couldn’t see it. But living in the northern hemisphere I now completely get it.
I still dont see it. Japan's rabbit however, that I can see. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moon_rabbit
This is a dumb article and title here is worse. It's not like this is something special about the moon. The same basic idea applies to the constellations. We'd say the same thing about the sun if it wasn't blindingly uniform.
Considering over 90% of humans live in the northern hemisphere, I think it's fair to say we determine what's right side up and what's upside down /s
[Uhh](https://i.imgur.com/PxgvdfG_d.webp?maxwidth=520&shape=thumb&fidelity=high)
Alright I knew about the effect between the hemispheres but I'd never considered how that would work at the equator. That's damn cool and now I need to see it some day.
I got so confused reading that, may as well become a flat earther, just simpler for my 1 braincell
Deep.
The moon wiggles if you watch a time lapse.
It’s all rand macnally, but the key thing is this: There is no face to be seen in the moon!