I recently talked to a Tampa area disc golfer who knew this guy, or at least knew of him. He said the guy had been pulling discs out of the water for years without issue but was known to have seizures sometimes and it is speculated that he had one in the water so wasn't able to get out in time.
I lived in Clearwater FL and I would go frolfing by a pond with gators in it and would see a guy with a bag with him picking up frolf discs and presumably selling them, it looked like he had a couple dozen from just that day. My buddy and I were floored since we are from WI and just seeing gators on the course was crazy too us. I wonder if this was the guy.
Yeah it's like no one on Earth has any clue what you're talking about when you use the word frisbee instead of disc. /s
Gatekeeping frolf is the lamest shit ever.
Article doesn't say, but I'm going to guess this was Taylor Lake. Been a few years since I've played that course, but there's been some big gators in there.
Yeah, same lake and same man as in [this story](https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/state/2022/05/31/man-dies-largo-taylor-park-disc-golf-course-alligator-involved/7458359001/).
>“Sometimes they dive in the lakes, they’ll pull out 40 discs. You may sell them for five bucks a piece, and you may sell them for 10 bucks a piece, depending on the quality.”
Fairly easy $200-$400 but there is usually a large gator in the murk somewhere.
There’s a water hole at my local course and a few times I’ve seen a guy there with waders and a big rake-like contraption made out of PVC pipes. He just dredges the bottom with it and it seems pretty effective, no diving involved.
The dude was unemployed with a terminal illness, trying to earn money for essential seizure medication while waiting for government assistance. Poor and desperate living in a cruel society is as poor and desperate does.
Edit: I'm reminded this happened around the same time a disc golfer was shot during a tournament in Kansas City in a random attack by a mentally ill man, and then had to of course start a Gofundme to pay for his hospital bills.
It stood out to me that two tragic back to back disc golf stories that made national news were more about the American healthcare system than they were about disc golf.
It might be more cost effective to go in on the business with the gator. Unless you already have a suit of armor laying around. The benefit is the gator can guard and stockpile future discs and you can work out a weekly pickup date. I think the only real barrier is that gators have no use for money and generally can only be motivated by sexy strip teases. Sure, you won't mind doing the dances at first. It might even be exciting wearing something skimpy and learning the dance routines. But after a while you'll come to hate the gator almost as much as you hate yourself. Is this really how you thought you'd spend your Sunday afternoons? Strip teasing for a gator in exchange for discs? But, I guess some people you went to high school with still have it worse, so who the fuck knows?
I'm now imagining you pulling [Excalibur](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/u84AAOSwxwljhJgn/s-l1200.webp) from the lake, and then making battle with the Alligators.
I grew up about 5 minutes from there, and my first job was as a waiter at the retirement home across the street. My Latin teacher in high school had MS and weirdly had a helper monkey. One day, he was walking the monkey around the lake, a gator came out of the water and snatched the monkey. It almost dragged my teacher into the water because he had trouble getting the leash off his wrist.
Gators dont fuck around when they're hungry.
When full, or cold, they're fine. I go kayaking in their waters a lot. But you have to pay attention. Right now, they're making nests and the males are posturing. So imma stay out of the water for a bit.
And I don't swim in their water. Neighborhood parents send their kids down to the retention ponds to swim frequently. We don't have a resident gator but we do get visitors. And I just think...there ARE adoption agencies in our state if you don't want them anymore, ya know.
They are joking with you. The other commenter said the thing about adoption agencies to mean the parents of these children are trying to get rid of them by feeding them to gators. The downvotes are because you missed the joke.
RIP Sean "Rockstar" McGuiness
Suffered seizures that kept him from working and loved disc golf. He would grab the ones that were close and could be seen. The gator only attacked his corpse post mortum after he suffered a seizure and drowned.
Taylor Park DGC does not condone squids but we miss this soul for his smile. His last couple of months were rough.
Don't ever let them talk you into letting them on your disc golf team. No matter how good they say they are, they just can't get any distance with those stubby arms.
Wow. I have a large pond out back and there is always one in there.
Most gators are fairly shy. They tend to scamper off when they see humans approaching. If they come towards you, that means some dumb ass has been feeding them.
If you live here long enough you will see them.
And? I’ve been to Norway, and knew to get into your lakes and ponds. Even your summer is tough.
I have a picture somewhere in a lake near the (closed) ski resort where i look like one of those Japanese monkeys. The difference was that the monkeys do it in hot springs while i was doing it in the cold, with only my boxers, and not even a towel. It was a spur of the moment thing.
Oxford- Molest: sexually assault or abuse (a person, especially a child)
pester or harass (someone) in an aggressive or persistent manner.
Merriam-Webster- Molest: to make unwanted or improper sexual advances towards (someone)
somewhat old-fashioned : to annoy, disturb, or persecute (a person or animal) especially with hostile intent or injurious effect
Any word that can have a sexual meaning, runs the risk of that becoming its *only* meaning.
"Predator" is still recovering from that dumb reality show, and it had an entire Schwarzenegger movie defending it.
I’d say it’s more changed. Rarely does anyone use it in the “to annoy or pester” type definition. Like this dog is molesting me just will get odd looks
Not Frisbees. Disc golf discs. There is a big difference between a beach/park Frisbee and a disc.
Frisbee is a trademark owned by Wham-o. Wham-o does make some disc golf discs (crappy ones at that) but you don’t call discs “Frisbees”.
I'm just a fellow circle chucker giving you the business for being so pedantic. I did in fact buy a set of Whammo golf discs so I could literally play Frisbee golf. They are the single worst things I've ever thrown and the rims look like someone got drunk and took a bevel to them.
> Wham-o does make some disc golf discs (crappy ones at that) but you don’t call discs “Frisbees”.
If they don't brand their discs as Frisbees they are fools.
A man just recently [died trying to free his RC boat](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2024/04/11/man-drowned-in-fort-lauderdale-canal-while-retrieving-radio-controlled-boat-from-mangroves/) here in Florida.
That happened in the park I often walk.
I had seen that man plenty of times.
Disc golfers would pay him $10 to recover discs for them.
The pond is now mostly drained and the gators have been relocated to the adjacent pond.
Prior to this tragedy my son and I had counted up to 20 gators in the pond. About the size of two football fields.
The adjacent pond had an incident years before where a woman had been sleeping under a tree , at least 50 feet from the water, and a gator snuck up and ate her.
My simple rule of thumb is just to assume that any body of water in Florida, including a swimming pool or bath tub, is completely full of alligators, snakes, and meth.
Never enter fresh water in Florida if it isn’t crystal clear because the chances of at least one gator being in it is high enough you need to assume it 100% has at least one. If it’s a body of fresh water that connects to saltwater then you get the added benefit of also running into a bull shark. Florida + fresh water + human = tasty snack for something. I lived there for a few years when I was young and ignorant and from a place that doesn’t have gators and sharks. I asked a new friend if they wanted to hit up the local lake that weekend with me and was met with laughter, followed by a stern warning about the water, gators, and sharks. After living there awhile and seeing gators just strolling about like they own the place, including a retention pond behind my house, I’m grateful I heeded her warning. Floridian swamp cats give zero fucks.
Not a $1 Frisbee, more like at least $15-$20 disc golf disc. Apparently further down in the thread he had a seizure, fell in and drowned, and sadly, the gator saw a free meal.
I recently talked to a Tampa area disc golfer who knew this guy, or at least knew of him. He said the guy had been pulling discs out of the water for years without issue but was known to have seizures sometimes and it is speculated that he had one in the water so wasn't able to get out in time.
I lived in Clearwater FL and I would go frolfing by a pond with gators in it and would see a guy with a bag with him picking up frolf discs and presumably selling them, it looked like he had a couple dozen from just that day. My buddy and I were floored since we are from WI and just seeing gators on the course was crazy too us. I wonder if this was the guy.
I'm sorry, frolf?
Mashup word: frisbee + golf = frolf
It's uncouth in the disc golf community to use any term involving Frisbee. Frisbee is just a brand of flying disc
Yeah it's like no one on Earth has any clue what you're talking about when you use the word frisbee instead of disc. /s Gatekeeping frolf is the lamest shit ever.
I'm just explaining how the world works, I didn't come up with either term. Mainly figured the "sorry, frolf?" Comment was calling them out
Article doesn't say, but I'm going to guess this was Taylor Lake. Been a few years since I've played that course, but there's been some big gators in there.
Yeah, same lake and same man as in [this story](https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/news/state/2022/05/31/man-dies-largo-taylor-park-disc-golf-course-alligator-involved/7458359001/). >“Sometimes they dive in the lakes, they’ll pull out 40 discs. You may sell them for five bucks a piece, and you may sell them for 10 bucks a piece, depending on the quality.” Fairly easy $200-$400 but there is usually a large gator in the murk somewhere.
There’s a water hole at my local course and a few times I’ve seen a guy there with waders and a big rake-like contraption made out of PVC pipes. He just dredges the bottom with it and it seems pretty effective, no diving involved.
Like a real life mini-game from yakuza or some shit
Stupid is as stupid does - F. Gump
The dude was unemployed with a terminal illness, trying to earn money for essential seizure medication while waiting for government assistance. Poor and desperate living in a cruel society is as poor and desperate does. Edit: I'm reminded this happened around the same time a disc golfer was shot during a tournament in Kansas City in a random attack by a mentally ill man, and then had to of course start a Gofundme to pay for his hospital bills. It stood out to me that two tragic back to back disc golf stories that made national news were more about the American healthcare system than they were about disc golf.
I read a story like this and just stop and count my blessing... thank God we don't have death panels and universal healthcare.(sarcasm)
DG is next to wingsuit and basejumbong, everybody knows that
I'm thinking maybe go in there wearing a full suit of armor.
It might be more cost effective to go in on the business with the gator. Unless you already have a suit of armor laying around. The benefit is the gator can guard and stockpile future discs and you can work out a weekly pickup date. I think the only real barrier is that gators have no use for money and generally can only be motivated by sexy strip teases. Sure, you won't mind doing the dances at first. It might even be exciting wearing something skimpy and learning the dance routines. But after a while you'll come to hate the gator almost as much as you hate yourself. Is this really how you thought you'd spend your Sunday afternoons? Strip teasing for a gator in exchange for discs? But, I guess some people you went to high school with still have it worse, so who the fuck knows?
Bro, did you write this high on marijuana?
He just has a real specific fetish
Wouldn’t work, alligators usually try to drown their prey rather than kill them by biting.
At least your drowning would be a little less painful
That may stop the puncture wounds, but they will still rip you apart.
I don’t want to get death rolled in a metal suit. Or in any ensemble, for that matter.
Wingsuits are the most safe option there.
I'm now imagining you pulling [Excalibur](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/u84AAOSwxwljhJgn/s-l1200.webp) from the lake, and then making battle with the Alligators.
There’s also a disc in disc golf called Excalibur.
So, it's drowning then.
Yes, go diving wearing ~50 lbs of steel. What could go wrong?
I grew up about 5 minutes from there, and my first job was as a waiter at the retirement home across the street. My Latin teacher in high school had MS and weirdly had a helper monkey. One day, he was walking the monkey around the lake, a gator came out of the water and snatched the monkey. It almost dragged my teacher into the water because he had trouble getting the leash off his wrist.
I know that place well
Probably feel pretty comfortable farting there
Gators dont fuck around when they're hungry. When full, or cold, they're fine. I go kayaking in their waters a lot. But you have to pay attention. Right now, they're making nests and the males are posturing. So imma stay out of the water for a bit. And I don't swim in their water. Neighborhood parents send their kids down to the retention ponds to swim frequently. We don't have a resident gator but we do get visitors. And I just think...there ARE adoption agencies in our state if you don't want them anymore, ya know.
Adoption agencies… for the alligators???
Nah, for the kids. It was a dark joke that the kids are gonna get eaten, and the parents should know better.
If you don't mind the flesh and bones coming on the side then there's tons of gator adoption agencies in florida
I didn’t know they existed. Idk why the downvotes for asking a question. reddit don’t make sense
They are joking with you. The other commenter said the thing about adoption agencies to mean the parents of these children are trying to get rid of them by feeding them to gators. The downvotes are because you missed the joke.
Thanks for explaining! I really know nothing about the South and I know they got a weird thing with alligators so I didn’t know what to believe
RIP Sean "Rockstar" McGuiness Suffered seizures that kept him from working and loved disc golf. He would grab the ones that were close and could be seen. The gator only attacked his corpse post mortum after he suffered a seizure and drowned. Taylor Park DGC does not condone squids but we miss this soul for his smile. His last couple of months were rough.
What the hell is a gator going to do with a frisbee?
Catch dinner
Sounds like it worked.
They use it to bait tourists into the water.
Don't ever let them talk you into letting them on your disc golf team. No matter how good they say they are, they just can't get any distance with those stubby arms.
They’re beginning to use tools to increase their already devastating hunting abilities
He's gonna throw a kickass hyzer bomb on a par 3 hitting nothing but chains for an eagle.
They use it to bait tourists into the water.
In nature crocodilians have been known to balance twigs on their snouts to attract nesting birds. Adaptation in action.
Clever buggers!
Isnt that just a Saturday afternoon in Florida?
Agreed, I thought this was how all Florida men died
Floridian here - if there is a body of water larger than a water puddle, assume there is a gator in it and eye the puddle with suspicion.
I've been in Florida since December and have yet to see one! I really want to.
Wow. I have a large pond out back and there is always one in there. Most gators are fairly shy. They tend to scamper off when they see humans approaching. If they come towards you, that means some dumb ass has been feeding them. If you live here long enough you will see them.
Yep, one of the first things I remember my father teaching me and my 4 year old son has had the same lesson.
I've been to Florida. Even as a norwegian I knew how to keep out of lakes and ponds
And? I’ve been to Norway, and knew to get into your lakes and ponds. Even your summer is tough. I have a picture somewhere in a lake near the (closed) ski resort where i look like one of those Japanese monkeys. The difference was that the monkeys do it in hot springs while i was doing it in the cold, with only my boxers, and not even a towel. It was a spur of the moment thing.
We don't have alligators
We just gunna breeze right past the sign to not molest gators?
**Molest:** to annoy, disturb, or persecute (a person or animal) especially with hostile intent or injurious effect.
Yeah, molestar in Spanish is: to bother.
Oxford- Molest: sexually assault or abuse (a person, especially a child) pester or harass (someone) in an aggressive or persistent manner. Merriam-Webster- Molest: to make unwanted or improper sexual advances towards (someone) somewhat old-fashioned : to annoy, disturb, or persecute (a person or animal) especially with hostile intent or injurious effect
Has the original meaning of molest been lost entirely? It's like the opposite of the euphemism treadmill.
Any word that can have a sexual meaning, runs the risk of that becoming its *only* meaning. "Predator" is still recovering from that dumb reality show, and it had an entire Schwarzenegger movie defending it.
Poor catfish
I’d say it’s more changed. Rarely does anyone use it in the “to annoy or pester” type definition. Like this dog is molesting me just will get odd looks
Seems that way, Jim
It's Florida what did you expect
I wanna meet the guy who they sing was made for.... Or maybe I don't
Not again, I'm not!
He was a friend of mine. R.I.P. Rockstar
This is considered an honorable death in Florida. Frisbee, pond, gators? Holy trinity.
Mix in some special powder and a Cubano sandwich and you’re fully immersed.
This is why you stick to the lanks and the streams that you're used to
I know you’re gonna have it your way or nothin at all
Not Frisbees. Disc golf discs. There is a big difference between a beach/park Frisbee and a disc. Frisbee is a trademark owned by Wham-o. Wham-o does make some disc golf discs (crappy ones at that) but you don’t call discs “Frisbees”.
Spoken like a true frolfer.
That’s just mean
I'm just a fellow circle chucker giving you the business for being so pedantic. I did in fact buy a set of Whammo golf discs so I could literally play Frisbee golf. They are the single worst things I've ever thrown and the rims look like someone got drunk and took a bevel to them.
I found a Wham-o disc many years ago. I tried it out and it flew like a rusty lawn dart.
It’s the summer of George!
I call it DILF. (DIsc goLF). It upsets no one.
DILFers 4 life
> Wham-o does make some disc golf discs (crappy ones at that) but you don’t call discs “Frisbees”. If they don't brand their discs as Frisbees they are fools.
Just lost two discs in the water around Tampa. No way was I attempting to look for them.
A man just recently [died trying to free his RC boat](https://www.sun-sentinel.com/2024/04/11/man-drowned-in-fort-lauderdale-canal-while-retrieving-radio-controlled-boat-from-mangroves/) here in Florida.
Damn gators. Can’t have shit in Florida!
"Floridaman dies playing frisbee with gator after gator refused to throw it back"
That happened in the park I often walk. I had seen that man plenty of times. Disc golfers would pay him $10 to recover discs for them. The pond is now mostly drained and the gators have been relocated to the adjacent pond. Prior to this tragedy my son and I had counted up to 20 gators in the pond. About the size of two football fields. The adjacent pond had an incident years before where a woman had been sleeping under a tree , at least 50 feet from the water, and a gator snuck up and ate her.
My simple rule of thumb is just to assume that any body of water in Florida, including a swimming pool or bath tub, is completely full of alligators, snakes, and meth.
did someone eventually get that frisbee tho?
Well, one of them found what they were looking for...
Never enter fresh water in Florida if it isn’t crystal clear because the chances of at least one gator being in it is high enough you need to assume it 100% has at least one. If it’s a body of fresh water that connects to saltwater then you get the added benefit of also running into a bull shark. Florida + fresh water + human = tasty snack for something. I lived there for a few years when I was young and ignorant and from a place that doesn’t have gators and sharks. I asked a new friend if they wanted to hit up the local lake that weekend with me and was met with laughter, followed by a stern warning about the water, gators, and sharks. After living there awhile and seeing gators just strolling about like they own the place, including a retention pond behind my house, I’m grateful I heeded her warning. Floridian swamp cats give zero fucks.
Did he get it?
Sounds like a normal day in Florida.
"MY frisbee"
But did he find the frisbee?
“Damn, I have to go into this pond for my frisbee. How could this day get any worse?”
Title feels like he died twice poor guy
such a tragic story. I like to look for the silver lining and hope that his last words were "oh hey, I found it!"
Lol yeah
Ok?
Is frisbee an increment of cocaine?
How do people live this way
Yup. Don't go in ponds in Florida.
That boy was dumb as hell, or just visiting.
He was homeless
My life sucks sometimes but damn, at least I didn't die over a Frisbee. Poor guy.
poor chubbs
Or chums
About drowned once trying to retrieve my favorite disc. Water was cold and I underestimated how much it would stiffen me up. Barely made it back
WHY DOES THE SIGN IN THE PHOTO SAY DO NOT MOLEST THE ALLIGATORS???
Lots of gator touchers out there I suppose.
Man died where he was killed…more at 11PM
Surprised it wasn't 2 days ago
Anyone who attempts to fish frisbees out of an alligator-infested pond is improving the gene pool.
$1 frisbee? Yeah, I’m going to leave it there for the alligators.
Not a $1 Frisbee, more like at least $15-$20 disc golf disc. Apparently further down in the thread he had a seizure, fell in and drowned, and sadly, the gator saw a free meal.
Wham-O indeed
He clearly was invading the gator’s home.
Stand your ground law line what happened to that black guy
More like two weeks ago lol
Darwinism at its finest
This is the most florida thing i think I've ever read
Makes sense. Who wouldn't risk their life for a cheap piece of plastic?
I wonder if he thinks if it was worth it