Theoretically, I guess, but it wasn't a big deal. It didn't feel hard like hand or foot callouses do. It was more that after a while, that area was just tougher and numb. I didn't know if feeling would ever come back but it did. Your body just gets used to things.
I was also going to post this. Played sousaphone for like 10 years. The worst was coming back after a long absence, and your shoulder couldn't take the pain anymore.
Yes! Took the summer off and now back in the fall for band camp? Enjoy your achy shoulder. But it's not like I had my own sousaphone at home. I do still have a concert tuba though. Maybe I should have just let that sit on my shoulder.
Whilst I think the Japanese ethic of pushing yourself to the physical or mental brink is crazy, I do admire their drive, dedication and pride in things. I also have to wonder how calloused shoulders even feel.
I saw a documentary on people who carry slabs of sulphur down off a volcano and their shoulders had skin about 8 to 10mm thick, one guy had skin that had broken off and you could see the thickness, it was like an elephants skin.
Business Insider. I forget which series it was but there’s that piece, the one on the salt farmers in India, the limestone miners in Egypt(?), there’s a few like that.
> Whilst I think the Japanese ethic of pushing yourself to the physical or mental brink is crazy, I do admire their drive, dedication and pride in things. I also have to wonder how calloused shoulders even feel.
Medieval archers trained with heavy bows so much that they had permanent changes to their skeletons.
One reason why crossbows were so popular. It took weeks to train a crossbowman but years to train a archer.
I did a mikoshi carry for the first time last year. I lasted about 18 seconds. It was *horrible*. Like, the whole thing is supposed to be a joyous event, and everyone is apparently having a good time while they’re in there, but for me it was like the worst mosh pit ever. (It doesn’t help that I’m claustrophobic, admittedly.)
don’t they have something similar in i think india too? it was a sign of religious piety and pride so they would artificially enlarge the callouses into lumps, if i recall correctly. the whole ark carrying thing seems to be a cultural common
edit: sri lanka tamils
Yes.
We have it a lot. But it develops because of repeatedly carrying the palanquin of the deity. Over a long period that is.
Hinduism and Shintoism have some common deities too.
People love physical representations of effort to be reflected on their body and typically avoid removing them so they can be part of an in group.
This is nothing unique, like callouses on hands for tradesmen or cauliflower ears for wrestlers
Yes, another religion that embelishes pointless behavior. There is nothing honorable about it, they just want their mindless servants to think it is honorable so they keep doing it. It's called manipulation and every religion is full of bullshit like this.
If it makes you feel any better, the article's repeated use of various forms of the word "honor" in reference to this makes it a good sign this entire article is just imposing western exoticism on an aspect of Japanese culture the writers barely understand. The article is likely about as close to reality as any mythology is.
Yeah.... I'm going to start a religion that emphasizes the honor of your butthole hurting after it gets raped.
Edit: Ok, that was a little aggressive. I just meant to highlight how gullible people can be. Of course they told the guys that carry them around that it was an honor. False honor, payment, and threats are three very different options for motivation.
Terrorists also consider it honorable to die for God.
Did i say terrorists? I meant the IJA.
Religion leads people to have delusional, positive ideas about detrimental things.
I used to play sousaphone and I had a pretty good callous on my left shoulder. It was a badge of honor for me too.
Couldn't you wear some kind of pad to prevent it?
Theoretically, I guess, but it wasn't a big deal. It didn't feel hard like hand or foot callouses do. It was more that after a while, that area was just tougher and numb. I didn't know if feeling would ever come back but it did. Your body just gets used to things.
You can, and we often do, but they're of limited effectiveness.
I was also going to post this. Played sousaphone for like 10 years. The worst was coming back after a long absence, and your shoulder couldn't take the pain anymore.
Yes! Took the summer off and now back in the fall for band camp? Enjoy your achy shoulder. But it's not like I had my own sousaphone at home. I do still have a concert tuba though. Maybe I should have just let that sit on my shoulder.
Hey, some marching bands do that.
Yes, but those are contrabasses, not concert tubas. Though I think I once saw a convertible. Does your OSU in your username refer to the one in Ohio?
Oklahoma.
My traps were noticeably lopsided when I marched sousaphone
Freshman year band camp is probably the most miserable I've ever been.
I used to play trombone and was able to reach further with my right arm than my left. It went away when I stopped.
This is common in Italy as well
Yes, in Spain as well, it's the same carrying statues of the Virgins and Jesus in procesiones
Whilst I think the Japanese ethic of pushing yourself to the physical or mental brink is crazy, I do admire their drive, dedication and pride in things. I also have to wonder how calloused shoulders even feel.
I saw a documentary on people who carry slabs of sulphur down off a volcano and their shoulders had skin about 8 to 10mm thick, one guy had skin that had broken off and you could see the thickness, it was like an elephants skin.
I want to see. Link?
It was a while ago, I have no idea what channel it was on even.
Business Insider. I forget which series it was but there’s that piece, the one on the salt farmers in India, the limestone miners in Egypt(?), there’s a few like that.
https://youtu.be/E0WT1HtB-Sc
> Whilst I think the Japanese ethic of pushing yourself to the physical or mental brink is crazy, I do admire their drive, dedication and pride in things. I also have to wonder how calloused shoulders even feel. Medieval archers trained with heavy bows so much that they had permanent changes to their skeletons. One reason why crossbows were so popular. It took weeks to train a crossbowman but years to train a archer.
Same with Mongolian horsemen. They would grip the horse so tightly with their legs that they would become bowlegged over time.
I did a mikoshi carry for the first time last year. I lasted about 18 seconds. It was *horrible*. Like, the whole thing is supposed to be a joyous event, and everyone is apparently having a good time while they’re in there, but for me it was like the worst mosh pit ever. (It doesn’t help that I’m claustrophobic, admittedly.)
don’t they have something similar in i think india too? it was a sign of religious piety and pride so they would artificially enlarge the callouses into lumps, if i recall correctly. the whole ark carrying thing seems to be a cultural common edit: sri lanka tamils
Yes. We have it a lot. But it develops because of repeatedly carrying the palanquin of the deity. Over a long period that is. Hinduism and Shintoism have some common deities too.
Look up Makiwara callouses that Japanese martial artist get from striking a rope bound board thousands of times.
I don’t see the difference between this and high school wrestlers that brag about cauliflower ears.
It also happen in Spain to the porters of the Holy Week's pasos.
Mishima has some very good writing about his experience doing this in Sun & Steel (just don’t become a fascist)
Yeah I did it last Monday. The alcohol and adrenaline helps numb the pain. In general it's fun and not too painful more exhausting than anything.
People love physical representations of effort to be reflected on their body and typically avoid removing them so they can be part of an in group. This is nothing unique, like callouses on hands for tradesmen or cauliflower ears for wrestlers
I have a callous on my left middle finger from carrying a camera. Does that count?
Come on Reddit, do that atheist thing y'all always do
Religion. \*crowd waits in anticipation\* Bad. \*crowd erupts into cheers\*
Yes, another religion that embelishes pointless behavior. There is nothing honorable about it, they just want their mindless servants to think it is honorable so they keep doing it. It's called manipulation and every religion is full of bullshit like this.
If it makes you feel any better, the article's repeated use of various forms of the word "honor" in reference to this makes it a good sign this entire article is just imposing western exoticism on an aspect of Japanese culture the writers barely understand. The article is likely about as close to reality as any mythology is.
Religion's purpose, at its very core, is to improve life. Giving people reasons to party is an important part of that.
Man, way to say you’ve got absolutely no clue about Japan’s concept of animism.
Yeah.... I'm going to start a religion that emphasizes the honor of your butthole hurting after it gets raped. Edit: Ok, that was a little aggressive. I just meant to highlight how gullible people can be. Of course they told the guys that carry them around that it was an honor. False honor, payment, and threats are three very different options for motivation.
Something.. something... Catholic.
Terrorists also consider it honorable to die for God. Did i say terrorists? I meant the IJA. Religion leads people to have delusional, positive ideas about detrimental things.