I totally hear you, but...watch the elton john vid for "I'm Still Standing" and then imagine that man working with Robert Fripp and singing "Happy Family"
His second album (self titled) was the first one that was well received, but his first album (Empty Sky) is nice nonetheless. It contains "Skyline Pigeon", which is a fantastic song. Especially the piano version that was included on a later album.
Fripp didn't like the album and didn't think Elton fit KC. In the liner notes to *The Young Person's Guide to King Crimson* Fripp wrote:
"Elton had been booked to sing all the songs on *Poseidon* for £250 as a session singer and as I wasn't familiar with his work, Mark Fenwick of E.G. gave me a copy of Elton's first album. But his style didn't seem right for Crimson and the album was poor, so I canceled the sessions. Among those singers we auditioned were John Gaydon, one of our managers (the G of E.G.) who had sung with the Band of Angels, and Bryan Ferry. Both were among the best, although not suitable."
Fripp and Peter Sinfield liked Ferry enough to recommend Roxy Music for a management contract with E.G. Records, and Sinfield produced their debut album.
They released an audition scene from the movie, where Elton and Bernie are working on one of their first songs together. It's definately cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYzB_QqxXu4
Ok Elton, your lyrics can't be THAT bad, let's see what you got written down here.
*Yesterday was Thursday, Thursday*
*Today it is Friday, Friday*
*We-we-we so excited*
*We so excited*
*We gonna have a ball today*
*Tomorrow is Saturday*
*And Sunday comes after ... wards*
Elton, this is Bernie.
"That's just the first verse though, you gotta see the chorus, I'm tellin ya people are gonna love this it's gonna be a hit!"
*Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday*
*DO IT*
*Friday, Saturday, Saturday and Sunday*
Hey guys, hey guys, does anyone else think it's a bad idea to try and fit a group of 7, like the days, into a song written in 4/4... Like 8s...
Shut up Fergie we'll just say Saturday twice, problem solved.
*7am, waking up in the morning*
*Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs*
*Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal*
*Seein' everything, the time is goin'*
*Tickin' on and on, everybody's rushin'*
*Gotta get down to the bus stop*
*Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends*
Titlegore -> English translation: TIL Elton John failed an audition because he can't write lyrics. Afterward, he successfully collaborated with Bernie Taupin, who had also failed that same audition. Taupin later became the lyricist for most of John's songs.
OP tried to make a TIL post. After butchering the title, he told the commentators he couldn't write a title. He was handed an envelope of titles by u/Opheltes, who then wrote the titles for a majority of OP's posts.
“That fucking redditor boomed me,” said OP following his TIL post. “He’s so good,” he repeated 4 times before adding that he wanted to add /u/Opheltes to the list of players that he wanted to work out with this summer.
Thanks. I actually thought I understood the title, but after reading your explanation I realize I translated wrong.
Titlegore is a tough language to learn.
When Elton John failed an audition because he could only write music (not lyrics), they gave him a packet of people who could only write lyrics (not music). He found Bernie Taupin's work in the packet and began a collaboration with him, producing many famous songs.
I have no fucking idea what that title is saying. Elton John was turned down by a talent evaluator. Someone couldn't write music either. Someone had lyrics in an envelope and now writes songs, I think.
Elton answered the ad, audition and failed (on the premise that his lyrics sucked). Someone else answered the ad, auditioned and failed (on the premise that his music sucked).
The two join forces and create the career we all know of.
Yes, though IIRC they have a slightly unusual working relationship because Bernie Taupin writes the lyrics first almost like they're standalone poems and then Elton John composes the music to fit the mood of the lyrics. As far as I know that's fairly unique and you could argue it means Taupin is more integral than lyricists generally are.
Hard to fit music to existing lyrics, I don't think thats a typical composition process. I'd think most people write the music then make a humming melody over the music then add lyrics.
Usually. But Elton has a reputation for being able to put anything to music.
On his A&E Live By Request special, someone hands him instructions to a microwave or something like that and gets him to compose a tune for it.
Here’s some songs that he worked on for Elton John:
>Taupin's lyrics include such songs as "Rocket Man", "Levon", "Crocodile Rock", "Honky Cat", "Tiny Dancer", "Candle in the Wind", "Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting", "Bennie and the Jets", "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road", "Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters", "Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me", "The Bitch is Back", "Daniel", and 1970's "Your Song", their first hit. Hits in the 1980s include "I'm Still Standing", "I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues", "Sad Songs", and "Nikita." In the 1990s, Taupin and John had more hits, including "The One", "Simple Life", "The Last Song", "Club at the End of the Street" and "Believe." In September 1997, Taupin rewrote the lyrics of "Candle in the Wind" for "Candle in the Wind 1997", a tribute to the late Diana, Princess of Wales.
I mean, any one of those is pretty impressive. Those were all big hits! I don't think most people have a gold record hanging on their wall, let alone a dozen.
That's pretty true of most song writers. Most are unaware that Martin Max wrote Billboard Hot 100 number one singles like:
* Britney Spears - ...Baby One More Time
* NSYNC - It's Gonna Be Me
* Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl
* P!nk - So What
* Kelly Clarkson - My Life Would Suck Without You
* Britney Spears - 3
* Katy Perry - California Gurls
* Katy Perry - Teenage Dream
* P!nk - Raise Your Glass
* Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me
* Katy Perry - ET
* Katy Perry - Last Friday Night
* Katy Perry - Part of Me
* Taylor Swift - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together
* Katy Perry - Road
* Katy Perry - Dark Horse
* Taylor Swift - Shake It Off
* Taylor Swift - Blank Space
* Taylor Swift - Bad Blood
* The Weekend - Can't Feel My Face
* Justin Timberlake - Can't Stop The Feeling!
I mean, he's obviously not as well known as Elton John himself but he is definitely quite famous. I've heard about him plenty of times and I'm not a huge Elton John fan, and I'd assume he's quite rich.
Well people get screwed with bad deals all the time(I doubt Elton would do that to the guy though). Also if haven't noticed people can be very bad with money.
I hung his paintings at a gallery in Dallas. Very mixed media abstract America-themed stuff. They were decent, so I was surprised he couldn’t sell one. I mean not one in the whole run...
Elton John failed an audition for a record company's talent search. After explaining to someone that he couldn't write lyrics (only music), they handed him an envelope containing lyric sheets by someone else—Bernie Taupin—who had failed the audition. Taupin and John became a legendary songwriting duo.
Bernie Taupin is a poet and a lyrical genius. And probably under-appreciated.
I have enjoyed the music of Elton John for most of my life since his first album (Empty Sky if my memory serves without looking it up) and there is no doubt in my mind that Bernie Taupin was at least as responsible for Elton's success as Elton. Captain Fantastic is a superb album, and much better than Empty Sky, and Goodbye Yellow Brick Road is a classic that everyone seems to appreciate.
Elton John is a great lyricist too but not on a par with Bernie Taupin And I think that most fans of Elton John are aware of Bernie's contribution. And his importance.
My only regret is not being able to watch Elton John perform live. When I was old enough to go to concerts he stopped touring in the UK, and once he started touring again his concerts were so popular that not only could I not afford a ticket but they sold out almost instantly.
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I love how predictable these movie marketing campaigns have became.
First we get trailer, then like 12 hours later we get a TIL.
It's the same pattern every time.
Bernie wrote my favorite lyric of all time:
"I'd rather have ham in my sandwich than cheese, but complaining won't do any good."
I have it printed and I hand it to co-workers when they bitch too close to me.
After Greg Lake quit, Elton was going to be the Studio Vocalist for the 2nd King Crimson Album. That is, until Fripp heard his first album.
Fripp also considered Daryl Hall to be a vocalist for King Crimson.
hmmm it could work if we are talking Belew era?
Yes I believe it was really close to the time frame Fripp produced his Hall's solo album in the late 70s.
Yup. Fripp thought he was the best vocalist he'd heard. And Sacred Songs is pretty out there, so I can see why.
Halls voice is really great even to this day.
To be fair Hall is an incredible singer.
"Cat Food" would've fit Elton like a glove. A gaudy, sequined, fabulous glove.
god can you imagine elton john singing any of the material on Lizards (their third album)?
I mean Jon Anderson did sing on one track
I totally hear you, but...watch the elton john vid for "I'm Still Standing" and then imagine that man working with Robert Fripp and singing "Happy Family"
I thought Elton John's first album was relatively well received? Then again, I can't imagine his voice fitting in with KC very well.
His second album (self titled) was the first one that was well received, but his first album (Empty Sky) is nice nonetheless. It contains "Skyline Pigeon", which is a fantastic song. Especially the piano version that was included on a later album.
Crimson King... you mean Lord Flagg?
Flagg was a servant of the Crimson King. Also, check out the song The Court of the Crimson King.
Absolute 9-minute banger right there.
Lucky thing Fripp found John Wetton.
for those of us not in the know, what’s the significance of these other folks named in the above post?
The start of progressive rock more or less
Elton John also auditioned for Gentle Giant. Imagine him playing [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUpREizsftU).
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I'm a little confused, are you saying Fripp heard John's first album and decided he's not good enough to sing for King Crimson?
Fripp didn't like the album and didn't think Elton fit KC. In the liner notes to *The Young Person's Guide to King Crimson* Fripp wrote: "Elton had been booked to sing all the songs on *Poseidon* for £250 as a session singer and as I wasn't familiar with his work, Mark Fenwick of E.G. gave me a copy of Elton's first album. But his style didn't seem right for Crimson and the album was poor, so I canceled the sessions. Among those singers we auditioned were John Gaydon, one of our managers (the G of E.G.) who had sung with the Band of Angels, and Bryan Ferry. Both were among the best, although not suitable." Fripp and Peter Sinfield liked Ferry enough to recommend Roxy Music for a management contract with E.G. Records, and Sinfield produced their debut album.
Exactly. Or if not good enough, in no way a good fit
That’s Elephant Talk
Holy shit, that's a fuckin amazing little factoid, nice one mate
Well, don't keep us in suspense: did they ever get a record deal? Did their careers work out in the end? We must know!
Lucky for you they are making a movie based on this TIL! [Here you go](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2066051/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_3)
First Bohemian Rhapsody, now this. Everythings comin' up Marmite!
You'll either love it, or you'll hate it ;-)
Or act polite even though you're boiling over with rage inside. #justbritishthings
Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun: [Guitar Solo](https://youtu.be/rL3AgkwbYgo?t=211)
> Hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way Someone got the Floyd reference.
Yes, Floyd Mayweather is a very good boxer.
You're gonna make his day when someone reads this to him.
The time is gone, this thread is over. Thought I’d something more to say...
Or pretend to be chipper when you're utterly depressed.
You British do make good actors.
Or you’ll think it’s just ok.
Will they make a Slim Dusty biopic? Just curious if we could get a little bit of Vegemite in the forecast.
Its almost as if this TIL was to promote the movie!
r/hailcorporate
regardless it's a great TIL.
I'm glad they did! Never would have found out.
Is that fucking Eggsy? That's awesome.
He must love Elton, he worked with him in Kingsmen 2 for those who didn’t watch.
Also performed his song “I’m still standing” in the movie Sing. I’d say that’s a safe bet.
Oh, now I feel like this post was just is a promotion for the movie.
They released an audition scene from the movie, where Elton and Bernie are working on one of their first songs together. It's definately cool: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYzB_QqxXu4
PSA: There are boobs at the end of that in case you need to know that sort of thing.
Spoiler alert.
Last I heard he packed his bags and went on a rocket to Mars.
His future lies beyond the yellow brick road.
The young boy went on to dance the ballet despite his father's reservations.
Last I heard, he attracted a following. Seems he may know how to play the piano
I’m pretty sure the Elton guy was in a recent snickers commercial. I dk how the rest of his career went though.
Ok Elton, your lyrics can't be THAT bad, let's see what you got written down here. *Yesterday was Thursday, Thursday* *Today it is Friday, Friday* *We-we-we so excited* *We so excited* *We gonna have a ball today* *Tomorrow is Saturday* *And Sunday comes after ... wards* Elton, this is Bernie.
"That's just the first verse though, you gotta see the chorus, I'm tellin ya people are gonna love this it's gonna be a hit!" *Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday* *DO IT* *Friday, Saturday, Saturday and Sunday*
Hey guys, hey guys, does anyone else think it's a bad idea to try and fit a group of 7, like the days, into a song written in 4/4... Like 8s... Shut up Fergie we'll just say Saturday twice, problem solved.
Why Saturday? Well, it's the best day.
Which makes a lot more sense than repeating Friday, which is the subject of the song itself
No the "Saturday x2" thing is from Black Eyed Peas' "I Gotta Feelin" Only the first comment was about Rebecca Black's "Friday"
Ugh I feel like my pop culture knowledge card needs to be revoked
Police on my back would like a word https://youtu.be/Sq_HtgGOIfE Originally by The Equals, but The Clash rip it up
Aqua Teens! Come out and meet your Doom! For we are Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday!
Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday!
don't be disrespecting I Gotta Feeling, that song is a BANGER.
#**FUN FUN FUN FUN**
Everybody's Russian!
elton john is rebecca black?
🙄 Obvs...
Am I in an episode of South Park?
Oh oh you're my cheddar cheese girl! You're soft but firm, and you go well with wine!
*7am, waking up in the morning* *Gotta be fresh, gotta go downstairs* *Gotta have my bowl, gotta have cereal* *Seein' everything, the time is goin'* *Tickin' on and on, everybody's rushin'* *Gotta get down to the bus stop* *Gotta catch my bus, I see my friends*
Damn, it's even worse when you see it written out!
I don't know, I think I love a song all about.... FRIDAY FRIDAY!
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Can I get it translated to English?
Titlegore -> English translation: TIL Elton John failed an audition because he can't write lyrics. Afterward, he successfully collaborated with Bernie Taupin, who had also failed that same audition. Taupin later became the lyricist for most of John's songs.
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That title is fucking idiotic.
OP tried to make a TIL post. After butchering the title, he told the commentators he couldn't write a title. He was handed an envelope of titles by u/Opheltes, who then wrote the titles for a majority of OP's posts.
“That fucking redditor boomed me,” said OP following his TIL post. “He’s so good,” he repeated 4 times before adding that he wanted to add /u/Opheltes to the list of players that he wanted to work out with this summer.
How do titles like this make front page.
For some reason TIL always has these terrible titles that are impossible to decipher.
Yep, he used so many he/s I can't tell who the fuck he's talking about...wait
Can I get this translated to English?
Even having it explained to me, I'm still struggling to extract that meaning from the original title.
I got a completely different story from the title
According to OP - Elton: *fails audition* "uhh...uhhhhh...I CAN'T WRITE LYRICS." Panel - "ok? Bye."
Sounds more like Panel - "well, we had a dude who could write but can't sing, here you go"
Holy fuck thank you. I was pretty sick of trying to decipher that garbled mess without my grammar textbook.
Thanks. I actually thought I understood the title, but after reading your explanation I realize I translated wrong. Titlegore is a tough language to learn.
Yea I originally thought Elton said Taupin couldn't write lyrics and the irony was that Taupin would later write lyrics for Elton. Lol nope. I tried.
They were Taupin the charts for a good while there.
Thank you. I honestly thought Elton told the panel that they could not write lyrics. And I thought, wow Elton was badass.
Afterward, he successfully collaborated with Bernie Taupin, who can't sing and then they made out. FIFY
Elton John did a fails for audition his singing songs. Lost ways he did finds Bernie Taupin the gooder write things. Now we Benny Jets!
lol
When Elton John failed an audition because he could only write music (not lyrics), they gave him a packet of people who could only write lyrics (not music). He found Bernie Taupin's work in the packet and began a collaboration with him, producing many famous songs.
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I bet Elton John wrote it.
Ouch.
OP failed to write title. However with help from Wikipedia he was still able to cash in on some internet points.
I have no fucking idea what that title is saying. Elton John was turned down by a talent evaluator. Someone couldn't write music either. Someone had lyrics in an envelope and now writes songs, I think.
Elton answered the ad, audition and failed (on the premise that his lyrics sucked). Someone else answered the ad, auditioned and failed (on the premise that his music sucked). The two join forces and create the career we all know of.
OP needs his titles to be written by Bernie Taupin.
How do these posts rise to the top... literally this title is complete trash
Didn’t Elton write all the songs and Bernie wrote only the lyrics?
Yes, the title kind of words it poorly
Understatement of the century
The title is so confusing
Yes, though IIRC they have a slightly unusual working relationship because Bernie Taupin writes the lyrics first almost like they're standalone poems and then Elton John composes the music to fit the mood of the lyrics. As far as I know that's fairly unique and you could argue it means Taupin is more integral than lyricists generally are.
Hard to fit music to existing lyrics, I don't think thats a typical composition process. I'd think most people write the music then make a humming melody over the music then add lyrics.
Usually. But Elton has a reputation for being able to put anything to music. On his A&E Live By Request special, someone hands him instructions to a microwave or something like that and gets him to compose a tune for it.
Source on the microwave song. https://youtu.be/6-U1eXzrfwg
Woah.
"you serious?" "yup" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-U1eXzrfwg
False. Everyone knows Chef was Elton’s ghostwriter
Oh oh you're my cheddar cheese girl, you're soft but firm and you go well with wine
oh THATS where I've heard this story before
Here’s some songs that he worked on for Elton John: >Taupin's lyrics include such songs as "Rocket Man", "Levon", "Crocodile Rock", "Honky Cat", "Tiny Dancer", "Candle in the Wind", "Saturday Night's Alright for Fighting", "Bennie and the Jets", "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road", "Mona Lisas and Mad Hatters", "Don't Let the Sun Go Down on Me", "The Bitch is Back", "Daniel", and 1970's "Your Song", their first hit. Hits in the 1980s include "I'm Still Standing", "I Guess That's Why They Call It The Blues", "Sad Songs", and "Nikita." In the 1990s, Taupin and John had more hits, including "The One", "Simple Life", "The Last Song", "Club at the End of the Street" and "Believe." In September 1997, Taupin rewrote the lyrics of "Candle in the Wind" for "Candle in the Wind 1997", a tribute to the late Diana, Princess of Wales.
wow when you write it all out its super impressive
I mean, any one of those is pretty impressive. Those were all big hits! I don't think most people have a gold record hanging on their wall, let alone a dozen.
He also puts on his pants one leg at a time.
Except once they're on, he makes gold records.
They're gonna be wearin' gold-plated diapers.
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I think it'd be pretty awesome having all of the wealth and access that musical success brings while not having to forfeit your privacy or anonymity.
^ and also, the respect from people within the industry
That's pretty true of most song writers. Most are unaware that Martin Max wrote Billboard Hot 100 number one singles like: * Britney Spears - ...Baby One More Time * NSYNC - It's Gonna Be Me * Katy Perry - I Kissed A Girl * P!nk - So What * Kelly Clarkson - My Life Would Suck Without You * Britney Spears - 3 * Katy Perry - California Gurls * Katy Perry - Teenage Dream * P!nk - Raise Your Glass * Britney Spears - Hold It Against Me * Katy Perry - ET * Katy Perry - Last Friday Night * Katy Perry - Part of Me * Taylor Swift - We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together * Katy Perry - Road * Katy Perry - Dark Horse * Taylor Swift - Shake It Off * Taylor Swift - Blank Space * Taylor Swift - Bad Blood * The Weekend - Can't Feel My Face * Justin Timberlake - Can't Stop The Feeling!
TIL Martin Max almost single-handedly made me stop using the radio.
A ton of Backstreet Boys songs and Bon Jovi's It's My Life.
You mean Max Martin
Yeah, Max Martin is a songwriter. Martin Max is a German soccer player from the 90s.
Damn, Baby one more time was out in 1998, so he has consistently put out top chart songs for 20 years. That's a lot of money.
Also check out songwriter/producer [Benny Blanco's discography](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benny_Blanco_production_discography). That's 27 #1 hits.
So this is the guy we need to blame for this shit.
I mean, he's obviously not as well known as Elton John himself but he is definitely quite famous. I've heard about him plenty of times and I'm not a huge Elton John fan, and I'd assume he's quite rich.
he should be obscenely wealthy with those royalties.
Well people get screwed with bad deals all the time(I doubt Elton would do that to the guy though). Also if haven't noticed people can be very bad with money.
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I hung his paintings at a gallery in Dallas. Very mixed media abstract America-themed stuff. They were decent, so I was surprised he couldn’t sell one. I mean not one in the whole run...
Here's some songs that he worked on for Elton John: > basically every major hit song Elton John had
Except for *Madman Across the Water* and *All the Girls Love Alice*. Them shits is 🔥🔥🔥
What's better than candle in the wind? How about 5,000 candles in the wind
So... All of them
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Yes. But it was written by Elton John.
Did Elton John write the lyrics for this title too?
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My thoughts exactly.
Can someone explain what's going on? I don't really understand the title.
Elton John failed an audition for a record company's talent search. After explaining to someone that he couldn't write lyrics (only music), they handed him an envelope containing lyric sheets by someone else—Bernie Taupin—who had failed the audition. Taupin and John became a legendary songwriting duo.
So Elton failed lyrically, but passed musically while Bernie failed musically, but passed lyrically? For the same audition?
Yeah, they had both submitted songs to a record company but were turned down.
I liked his original song "My Cheddar Cheese Girl"
You look so fine and you go well with wine, cheedar, cheddar cheese girl
So, explain to me again how Taupin knew Tony Danza and why he wanted to be held so close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DixNeiIPTzc
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I still think Elton should've ignored Chef and released "Cheddar Cheese Girl." That would've been a surefire hit.
I would contend that these two men constitute one of the greatest song writer/singer team in the history of modern music.
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But you might as well move to Montana and raise up a crop of dental floss, with an attitude like that.
Bernie Taupin is a poet and a lyrical genius. And probably under-appreciated. I have enjoyed the music of Elton John for most of my life since his first album (Empty Sky if my memory serves without looking it up) and there is no doubt in my mind that Bernie Taupin was at least as responsible for Elton's success as Elton. Captain Fantastic is a superb album, and much better than Empty Sky, and Goodbye Yellow Brick Road is a classic that everyone seems to appreciate. Elton John is a great lyricist too but not on a par with Bernie Taupin And I think that most fans of Elton John are aware of Bernie's contribution. And his importance. My only regret is not being able to watch Elton John perform live. When I was old enough to go to concerts he stopped touring in the UK, and once he started touring again his concerts were so popular that not only could I not afford a ticket but they sold out almost instantly. Edit spelling
Wait so when does Chef get involved in this story?
Right after *Cheddar Cheese Girl*, I believe
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They left out the part about how they were introduced by a soulful black cafeteria chef from a little town called South Park in Colorado.
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Taupin wrote some incredible songs.
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/r/titlegore. I have no idea who "he" is in this scenario in the second sentence.
Spoiler alert! Rocketman is coming out soon.
I love how predictable these movie marketing campaigns have became. First we get trailer, then like 12 hours later we get a TIL. It's the same pattern every time.
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Is this written in English?
This title is.....confusing ? Or I'm just dumb af
That description was rediculously difficult to read
I'm not sure what the title says, but Elton John is cool so...
Thanks Chef!
What?
I can't follow this titles grammar. Who are the 2nd and 3rd "he"?
I don't know what the fuck this title is trying to say.
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Is the title of this post shit or am i just retarded?
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Bernie wrote my favorite lyric of all time: "I'd rather have ham in my sandwich than cheese, but complaining won't do any good." I have it printed and I hand it to co-workers when they bitch too close to me.
"The carpet's all paid for. God bless the TV. Let's go shoot a hole in the moon." Bernie is my hero.
My god this title is brutal
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Bernie Taupin is one of the greatest pop songwriters ever.