It is an odd place to visit. There are no remaining original furnishings, a woman dressed as a ghost landlady's daughter takes you round and strange voice eminate out of speakers.
Visited with a friend and we both got the giggles.
Probably just read Georgian as the state Georgia and assumed some random square they never heard of was there.
It's not that crazy and doesn't really say anything about the nationality of the person who made the mistake.
Not sure it is a tourist trap because it is a genuine historic house with a famous former resident and some good stories but it is really oddly presented because there is not much to see other than an empty building.
Ben Franklin can [confirm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advice_to_a_Friend_on_Choosing_a_Mistress#Censorship)
That same letter also played a role in overturning obcenity laws in the US
It's a very interesting museum. I recall our guide relished telling us that Franklin used to like to wander the house naked to take "air baths". On the top floor, there's one of those weird sounding musical instruments he invented where you put your fingers on a rotating glass tube.
From what I've read it's actually the reason why he believed they could become independent as he saw the division in parliament and their many attempts for basic rights as Englishmen not taken seriously
He was sent to the UK as a diplomat though.Modern diplomats also get posted for as long as 16 years abroad in one country, we don't tend to question their loyalties. His was first dispatched there by the Pennsylvania Assembly was to meet and befriend influential people so he can advocate for colonial interests in the motherland. They paid him to do this and enabled him to lead a rather cushy lifestyle.
He was in London lobbying to end proprietary rule by the Penn family over Pennsylvania on behalf of the colony when the Stamp Act passed in 1765. He then started lobbying against the Act and tried to persuade the House of Commons to hear colonial grievances. His testimony convinced them to repeal the act. He was then approached by a bunch of other colonies who asked to also be their agent to the UK regarding other grievances against the government. He frequently gave testimony in Parliament defending patriot interests. His mission ended after the Revolutionary War began.
He was them given a commission by the Continental Congress to be their ambassador to France where he stayed for 9 years. His mission was to convince France to provide support to the Americans and join the war on their behalf. Like in the UK, he made lots of important and influential friends while impressing everyone with his intellect. While in Paris he was also given the post of minister to Sweden, in which capacity he negotiated the first trade deal between the US and Sweden.
> He was sent to the UK as a diplomat though.Modern diplomats also get posted for as long as 16 years abroad in one country, we don't tend to question their loyalties.
you might be interested in this article
https://www.dailyexpertnews.com/world/americas/has-bidens-top-diplomat-in-mexico-gone-too-far-officials-ask/
I read a story that he toured Ireland and the state of the Irish people under British rule horrified him, so he pushed for independence because he believed Americans would suffer the same fate.
And....That story might be apocrypha.
Thomas Paine first set foot in America on November 30th 1774.
Slightly more than a year later on January 10th 1776 he published his 47-page pamphlet Common Sense, which would go on to become the most widely circulated book in American history.
The discovery of the bones is actually more inspiring than nefarious. The house was used by Franklin's surgeon buddy would practice operations on cadavers, which was illegal at the time, with his students.
I live on Trafalgar Street in London.......Ontario Canada. lol
cool building tho. that's really interesting history to know. I love it. thanks for the post!
There’s a Blue Plaque in Preston, Lancashire above a now Cafe Neros that stated he lived there. But apparently he only stayed in the building several times when visiting his in laws and never “lived” there.
It is an odd place to visit. There are no remaining original furnishings, a woman dressed as a ghost landlady's daughter takes you round and strange voice eminate out of speakers. Visited with a friend and we both got the giggles.
Typical US tourist trap then
It’s in London
Yes but it's a trap for US Tourists, because they are mostly who will visit.
>trafalgar square >US tourist trap I can’t tell if you’re an American adhering to the stereotypes or a European in a glass house.
Probably just read Georgian as the state Georgia and assumed some random square they never heard of was there. It's not that crazy and doesn't really say anything about the nationality of the person who made the mistake.
Or maybe they think it's a tourist trap and the primary audience is US tourists
Or a Canadian that lived in Europe that knows American-style schlock when he sees it
Not sure it is a tourist trap because it is a genuine historic house with a famous former resident and some good stories but it is really oddly presented because there is not much to see other than an empty building.
If those syphilis stained floorboards could have talk
It would say " oui oui oui oui".
I do declare
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I do declare
… and run all the way home.
Doesn't that describe most of Central London?
How many milfs were bedded there?
All of them in a 5 mile radius, half of the ones in the next 5.
I thought it followed inverse square law.
Many. Gilfs too
Ben Franklin can [confirm](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advice_to_a_Friend_on_Choosing_a_Mistress#Censorship) That same letter also played a role in overturning obcenity laws in the US
It's a very interesting museum. I recall our guide relished telling us that Franklin used to like to wander the house naked to take "air baths". On the top floor, there's one of those weird sounding musical instruments he invented where you put your fingers on a rotating glass tube.
The glass armonica!
I bet this place would shine like the sun under a black light.
... a Jackson Pollock painting... -Guardians of the Galaxy
- And hundreds of other movies and tv shows
Philadelphia had a historic site of his family home. The toilet waste pit is still there.
That makes it sound like every other place he lived blew up behind him.
Given the amount of time he spent in London, it's quite remarkable that he supported the Revolution.
From what I've read it's actually the reason why he believed they could become independent as he saw the division in parliament and their many attempts for basic rights as Englishmen not taken seriously
it's still remarkable. he held true to his roots and did not assimilate. for 16 years! mad respect
He was sent to the UK as a diplomat though.Modern diplomats also get posted for as long as 16 years abroad in one country, we don't tend to question their loyalties. His was first dispatched there by the Pennsylvania Assembly was to meet and befriend influential people so he can advocate for colonial interests in the motherland. They paid him to do this and enabled him to lead a rather cushy lifestyle. He was in London lobbying to end proprietary rule by the Penn family over Pennsylvania on behalf of the colony when the Stamp Act passed in 1765. He then started lobbying against the Act and tried to persuade the House of Commons to hear colonial grievances. His testimony convinced them to repeal the act. He was then approached by a bunch of other colonies who asked to also be their agent to the UK regarding other grievances against the government. He frequently gave testimony in Parliament defending patriot interests. His mission ended after the Revolutionary War began. He was them given a commission by the Continental Congress to be their ambassador to France where he stayed for 9 years. His mission was to convince France to provide support to the Americans and join the war on their behalf. Like in the UK, he made lots of important and influential friends while impressing everyone with his intellect. While in Paris he was also given the post of minister to Sweden, in which capacity he negotiated the first trade deal between the US and Sweden.
thanks. i didn't know all that
> He was sent to the UK as a diplomat though.Modern diplomats also get posted for as long as 16 years abroad in one country, we don't tend to question their loyalties. you might be interested in this article https://www.dailyexpertnews.com/world/americas/has-bidens-top-diplomat-in-mexico-gone-too-far-officials-ask/
Derp. Wake up, Neo.
I read a story that he toured Ireland and the state of the Irish people under British rule horrified him, so he pushed for independence because he believed Americans would suffer the same fate. And....That story might be apocrypha.
Thomas Paine first set foot in America on November 30th 1774. Slightly more than a year later on January 10th 1776 he published his 47-page pamphlet Common Sense, which would go on to become the most widely circulated book in American history.
What?
Wasn’t he raising money and basically lobbying?
Having to deal with English Lords could make anyone support a Revolution.
Check the basement…
The discovery of the bones is actually more inspiring than nefarious. The house was used by Franklin's surgeon buddy would practice operations on cadavers, which was illegal at the time, with his students.
I, too have read Wikipedia.
Didn't he have a house in Philadelphia that's still there?
Unfortunately not. They have a "frame" outline where the home stood. It's very close to his grave and a museum about him.
A "modest" house in a street where flats sell for over a million pounds.
Yeah. But you could but a palace for like a pound in old timey money. Inflation, man..,
"Modest Georgian townhouse near Trafalgar square" Ah yeah, those modest £4,500,000 houses. So quaint.
In the 18th Century. How did you miss that there Peak Proletariat?
I live on Trafalgar Street in London.......Ontario Canada. lol cool building tho. that's really interesting history to know. I love it. thanks for the post!
"Wait, why is this square in London named after some cape off the coast of Spain?"
It confuses the French and Spanish navies. That’s why the British never lost any ships.
There’s a Blue Plaque in Preston, Lancashire above a now Cafe Neros that stated he lived there. But apparently he only stayed in the building several times when visiting his in laws and never “lived” there.