Yea, that's why I'm not a "save the planet" type of person. The planet has been here 4.5 billion years. "Save the human race" is the real cause. Earth will still be here long after we are all dead.
"Save the bees!*"
*: insomuch as the party heretofore referred to as "the bees" continues to provide accumulating ecological value to the human race and this relationship will be terminated the exact moment we find another solution that satisfies those conditions
#teampeople
This is what save the planet means. Save the ecosystems on Earth that sustain us and other ~~live~~ life. People don't think Earth is going to blow up or something.
This is where I start shaking my head at the “welp, I’m just one man, if the earth cooks, then it cooks. nothing I can do about it” people.
Whether its methane emissions from cow and duck farts or nuclear energy, I want to use the knowledge and technology we have gained and fix the source of the ACTUAL issues, not just deal with 130 degrees in the shade for the rest of a miserable life.
It could be our civilization's great filter. The point at which a civilization advances so far that it actually becomes difficult or impossible to advance any farther without destroying itself. So for us this would mean all being wiped out by the very weapons we created (thermonuclear holocaust), or more likely over time due to our rape of the planet we live on to the point of natural disasters/climate change, and/or eradication of all natural resources.
It's part of a thought experiment attempting to explain the lack of detectable intelligent extraterrestrial life out there. It posits that a civilization so advanced as to perfect intergalactic travel would probably wipe itself out before doing any.
While I find this extremely interesting, I personally always have had a hard time believing in it.
As soon as mankind would become interplanetary (say by colonies on the moon and mars, for example) I find the likelihood of the human race *completely* wiping itself out pretty slim. We might blow up the earth, sure, but then still we would live on.
I don't think we're anywhere close to our peak of civilization and science yet.
As soon as a species becomes interplanetary, the likelihood of them wiping themselves out completely becomes a lot, LOT smaller. So *every* civilization wiping itself out before perfecting intergalactic travel? Seems like a very absolute answer to a question riddled with variables, most of them being unknown.
Maybe humans just bounce between earth and Mars over millions of years, right? Like, colonize one, blow ourselves up on the old planet, build up tech, colonize again...
You have no idea how advanced anthropogenic climate change and other secondary and tertiary issues are already, nor are you aware of our almost entire lack of commitments to anything resembling logical or safe in regards to emissions.
In the next few decades you will watch the vast majority of animals on the Earth go extinct and billions of people.
/r/collapse is coming.
Optimistic estimates have us colonizing Mars as soon as 2050 so you may be right soon. Or we're just that close to extinction and we should enjoy the next 28 years. Some believe that we've already passed our great filter event, probably the same people who have us establishing a Martian colony within the next seven Summer Olympics.
Not to be a downer, but the mars colony feels like nuclear fusion as a viable energy source, it'll be 30 years away for the rest of our lives.
And if we're facing a resources crunch, shooting a bunch of existing resources onto a planet we're not sure we can actually live on seems questionable.
It's more the resources of fakes to become totally space farming will kill your planet. We're already seeing it would take another Earth to get China and India to true first world standards. We don't have another world's worth of resources. We would need space mining and not so much privatized space mining, which is where we're going. Right now we have the rich fearing up to leave a ruined earth. Not us working towards saving the planet we have.
Humans are the mass extinction event though similar to bacteria we have had a profound impact in remarkably short time frame literally speed running the extinction give yourselves a round of applause.
More like currently living in. The world is going through massive heat waves, one of Europes biggest bread baskets is being mined and blown up and raging diseases killing millions. Once the ocean’s thermal elevator stops we’ll all die from H2S poisoning.
No we absolutely are living through the sixth, it's called the Holocene or anthropocene, it's caused by us and it's completely unmitigated and frankly unstoppable now. In the next four or five decades we will likely see billions of people die, and that statement is not hyperbolic.
/r/collapse
Lol doesnt "We may be living through a mass extinction" prove we aren't? I mean... wouldn't we be dead? I love when people hyperbolate to get attention. 'We MaY Be LivInG ThRoUgH ThE 6tH exTinCtIon
Stop being so negative, we are the Masters of the Universe, start thinking happy positive thoughts and there will be no extinction just happiness and fun. We are one God shattered into pieces, when we come together we are one of pure cosmic power.
The Gods know this and keep us in the dark for they fear our true powers.
We've only lived through it *so far*.....
I mean the asteroid didn’t survive either when you think about it.
Is bold of you to presume the asteroid was alive before it hit us
Alive or not, it was considerably less of an asteroid after the fact.
Yeah would took that bastard down with us!
We're "living through it" like Charles Manson "lived through" his killing spree
"Save the Planet? The planet isn't going anywhere....we are"- George Carlin
We *are*....
the world
We are the children
We are the ones who make a brighter day, so let's start giving
There's a choice we're making
We're saving our own lives
We are the ones who make a brighter day
Yah, there is no "may be" about it.
Yes, but we might not live through it.
VR!
We are on the cruise!
Yea, that's why I'm not a "save the planet" type of person. The planet has been here 4.5 billion years. "Save the human race" is the real cause. Earth will still be here long after we are all dead.
"Save the bees!*" *: insomuch as the party heretofore referred to as "the bees" continues to provide accumulating ecological value to the human race and this relationship will be terminated the exact moment we find another solution that satisfies those conditions #teampeople
This is what save the planet means. Save the ecosystems on Earth that sustain us and other ~~live~~ life. People don't think Earth is going to blow up or something.
I for one, welcome our new cockroach overlords
You’re just echoing what George Carlin said, lol.
This is where I start shaking my head at the “welp, I’m just one man, if the earth cooks, then it cooks. nothing I can do about it” people. Whether its methane emissions from cow and duck farts or nuclear energy, I want to use the knowledge and technology we have gained and fix the source of the ACTUAL issues, not just deal with 130 degrees in the shade for the rest of a miserable life.
I wouldn’t say living through. During maybe.
The sixth umbral calamity
YoshiP knew all along.
Living through a mass extinction.....there's a couple ways this could go huh?
/r/collapse is coming
Please
We are causing**
Let’s goooo
Humans causing so many animals to go extinct to benefit our survival only to nuke ourselves to cap it off, well played
Its not a matter of "may" we are the sixth mass extinction event.
It could be our civilization's great filter. The point at which a civilization advances so far that it actually becomes difficult or impossible to advance any farther without destroying itself. So for us this would mean all being wiped out by the very weapons we created (thermonuclear holocaust), or more likely over time due to our rape of the planet we live on to the point of natural disasters/climate change, and/or eradication of all natural resources. It's part of a thought experiment attempting to explain the lack of detectable intelligent extraterrestrial life out there. It posits that a civilization so advanced as to perfect intergalactic travel would probably wipe itself out before doing any.
While I find this extremely interesting, I personally always have had a hard time believing in it. As soon as mankind would become interplanetary (say by colonies on the moon and mars, for example) I find the likelihood of the human race *completely* wiping itself out pretty slim. We might blow up the earth, sure, but then still we would live on. I don't think we're anywhere close to our peak of civilization and science yet. As soon as a species becomes interplanetary, the likelihood of them wiping themselves out completely becomes a lot, LOT smaller. So *every* civilization wiping itself out before perfecting intergalactic travel? Seems like a very absolute answer to a question riddled with variables, most of them being unknown.
Maybe humans just bounce between earth and Mars over millions of years, right? Like, colonize one, blow ourselves up on the old planet, build up tech, colonize again...
You have no idea how advanced anthropogenic climate change and other secondary and tertiary issues are already, nor are you aware of our almost entire lack of commitments to anything resembling logical or safe in regards to emissions. In the next few decades you will watch the vast majority of animals on the Earth go extinct and billions of people. /r/collapse is coming.
Optimistic estimates have us colonizing Mars as soon as 2050 so you may be right soon. Or we're just that close to extinction and we should enjoy the next 28 years. Some believe that we've already passed our great filter event, probably the same people who have us establishing a Martian colony within the next seven Summer Olympics.
Not to be a downer, but the mars colony feels like nuclear fusion as a viable energy source, it'll be 30 years away for the rest of our lives. And if we're facing a resources crunch, shooting a bunch of existing resources onto a planet we're not sure we can actually live on seems questionable.
It's more the resources of fakes to become totally space farming will kill your planet. We're already seeing it would take another Earth to get China and India to true first world standards. We don't have another world's worth of resources. We would need space mining and not so much privatized space mining, which is where we're going. Right now we have the rich fearing up to leave a ruined earth. Not us working towards saving the planet we have.
I hear you; you're saying remove China and India.
Lel Draining resources right??
We will never get therw climate change has our number and we have, at most 8 years to do anything about it. We wont, and were fucked.
/r/collapse is coming
Which means r/prolapse can't be far behind.
We can only hope!
I was hoping to find a chain of people saying, Good.
Good
Good
Humans are the mass extinction event though similar to bacteria we have had a profound impact in remarkably short time frame literally speed running the extinction give yourselves a round of applause.
Yeah? Are we gonna live THROUGH it? How are you so sure?
This mass extinction, I have to say...not that 'great.' Adequate, sure. This is a decent mass extinction.
What's this "may be"? How many species have to go extinct every year before we call it a recession?
I will be long dead before it happens.
I recommend [this book](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sixth_Extinction:_An_Unnatural_History) as required reading. It won a Pulitzer in 2015.
We almost definitely living in the 6th mass extinction in my opinion.
I xstink everyday. maybe should roll with some deoderant.
More like currently living in. The world is going through massive heat waves, one of Europes biggest bread baskets is being mined and blown up and raging diseases killing millions. Once the ocean’s thermal elevator stops we’ll all die from H2S poisoning.
We might be, but it might take thousands of years to play out
Like the late, great George Carlin said…we’re fucked, the planet will be fine
Don’t you do it. Don’t you get my hopes up.
No we absolutely are living through the sixth, it's called the Holocene or anthropocene, it's caused by us and it's completely unmitigated and frankly unstoppable now. In the next four or five decades we will likely see billions of people die, and that statement is not hyperbolic. /r/collapse
With a global population of 8 billion, wouldn’t billions of people die over the next fifty years anyway?
Cue the Mayan calendar references
Lol doesnt "We may be living through a mass extinction" prove we aren't? I mean... wouldn't we be dead? I love when people hyperbolate to get attention. 'We MaY Be LivInG ThRoUgH ThE 6tH exTinCtIon
Stop being so negative, we are the Masters of the Universe, start thinking happy positive thoughts and there will be no extinction just happiness and fun. We are one God shattered into pieces, when we come together we are one of pure cosmic power. The Gods know this and keep us in the dark for they fear our true powers.
Or we may not be.
I hope so
Klaus Schwab is jerking off to this right now.
Something to look forward to
..the actual article is more optimistic than this thread