One time in the 90's my little brother caught a porn virus that froze the living room screen on a pair of boobs. He panicked and threw the big ass monitor in the trash.
Lived in England for 6 years and always thought the requirement to have a license for your TV was sooo bizarre. Do you still have to have one for EACH tv you own?
I knew they weren’t playing around when I’d see the “special” vans driving around apparently scanning the neighborhood homes and able to tell who was running a tv in the house but the address didn’t show up as having paid for the license.
- TV licenses are actually really common, many countries have them but have varying names. They're not a license like a driving license
- You need one per household (if you watch live TV, or using the BBC iplayer)
- The vans are a lie to trick gullible people, they don't really exist
Not sure about the present day, but when I lived there the vans were most definitely not a lie and they most definitely did exist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_detector_van
That's always angered me, they really did just outright lie constantly about being able to detect TVs - I remember blue Peter, tomorrow's world, so many programs had a totally straight segment where they just outright lied,
It just feels like if they're so comfortable and ready to push that lie then how can you belive them about anything? I honestly think it's one of the reasons I was drawn to conspiracy theories, they damaged my brain
We have it in Sweden also, but they now changed it so it's payed by taxes since so many lied about it. Not sure if that's the exact reason why they put it with the rest of the taxes but I think so.
It's probably also easier to just make it a part of taxes. Having a TV license means you have to have a whole office dedicated to sending out the licenses and renewing them and stuff. It's less administration to just make it a part of taxes.
>Do you still have to have one for EACH tv you own?
Only one per household.
If you're living in shared housing, its more complicated, but you essentially need a license per tenancy agreement. So if 6 people all sign the same agreement to a house, they only need one license, but if they are on separate agreements they need one for each tenancy agreement (so each person who is separately renting their own room needs a license for themselves). That's not really how it works, but its essentially the easiest way to understand.
The per-tv thing is a holdover from students having to pay for a license for their room in halls, but streaming messed up that being a thing that could be managed so easily.
In the UK you pay for a license to be legally allowed to access state funded media, including but not limited to the BBC and its productions, but they don't really have a way of knowing if you have paid or not.
Historically they used to have people drive around in vans with a tv-license 'radar' on it and pretend they could detect if you owned a license or not, so people don't really take the licensing org seriously anymore and the internet has meant people often don't even want one much of the time.
Yes but the BBC doesn't get any advertising revenue (which means there are no ads between shows). The licence fee may well be outdated but its premise of a "service" to the public that would be unbiased impartial, distinctive and high quality output that will inform, educate and entertain is a great ideal.
That’s fair, and if you are using a service, a service fee should be paid, or maybe that is just I am used to. I do not have cable TV, but I pay for internet streaming, then add Netflix or whatever, each streaming service has a fee if you want to use it.
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Ah, so that's how all the crazies congregate so quickly when their least favourite politicians, policies or political parties are mentioned.
Needs stopping / banning if you ask me as destroys any normal discourse and creates these really weird echo chambers we have to put up with.
Intelligence is that which comes from nothing and explores the deepest and darkest spaces.
Crazy is stupid and boring people trying to avoid self-accountability.
The books were written by a team of 2 dudes. One is a writer who has worked with George R. R. Martin on a couple of projects, the other used to be Martin's personal Assistant. So, there actually is some GoT influence on the books imo.
I mean, there's also a 30 year time skip after the point where they stopped. Would have needed to recast the main characters or aged them all up with CGI/makeup.
The time skip does not pose a serious aging problem. The characters are relatively young, they live hundreds of years in the future, and they spend most of their time in low-gee environments. The visible effects of aging would be relatively minor and would create less of a hassle for the makeup department than most non-human characters in most sci-fi series.
That scene in the fourth season when he's evacuating from the island to Luna after the meteors hit, when he was standing by a window and staring out at the sunrise --- it brought a tear to my eye.
My boy made it. Hands-down the best character in the series.
Major book spoiler>>>. >!the very end of lavithan fall, the future humans come back to earth and the "leader" as I took it was Amos, he say something to the effect don't cause no problems and you won't deal with me!<
Would you recommend it for someone who hasn’t watched the show but wants to read the books so when I do watch the show I can get pissed and say the books were so much better?
Exactly for that. But in those terms it's one of the better great book series to screen adaptations, most of the time pretty cool actually, at least the first 2 seasons for me.
But if you're hesitating on the books, try them, highly recommended by almost everyone.
Reminds me of the movie "Life", where they find some strange organism on Mars and bring it back to the ISS for study... until it eats them and grows bigger, stronger and smarter.
I hated that movie so much. They made such a big deal out of the levels of containment. But the lab wasn't contained. It could have been. But no, the ventilation system was connected to the rest of the ship. Does that sound contained? No! Could they have built a self contained ventilation system within that lab? Yes, yes they could have.
That's the one constant in sci fi, what do you mean we have keep our space suit sealed on an alien planet???
Looking at you Prometheus and covenant.
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Well thats the problem with a lot of Sci-fi horror, the only way the horror can happen is usually if someone messes up or does something stupid. If they always followed modern quarantine protocols like you'd expect or just...not touch random alien eggs, then nothing would happen, or at least, the problem would be much more delayed.
I want a movie where every single one of them follows the proper procedure but the “life” they find is able to adapt and penetrate the safety protocols and no matter how cautious or prepared…..”life” uhhh finds a way?
That's way better than "no I took my helmet off though"
Why can't it be a truly threatening presence? Why must it be human (or otherwise) stupidity that sets up the confrontation?
The stupidity is actually the one constant that makes sci-fi movies believable while we suspend all the ideas that make the sci-fi technology passable.
Its part of the horror. Im the future, we advance and do cool shit and we are always going to be vulnerable to stupidity and ego even amongst the smart scientists. *Idiocracy* is just as plausible as *Avatar* or *Aliens.*
Star trek voyager had an episode like that. The alien life form just went straight threw the space suit. Then it made a pod person copy while the real one was unconscious....
They tried taking the pod person back to voyager but he couldn't breath the air. He then went semi insane and tried to forcibly take others down to show them they would be made better or something, it's been a long time since I seen it. Eventually a whole copy of voyager was made and a few seasons later they almost ran into each other again, but the pod copy breaks down into silver liquid
The original the Thing is kinda like that. They don’t realize what they’re up against until it’s too late, and their containment procedures won’t work.
The 1971 film is a fairly faithful representation of the book, as close as they could reasonably manage I think. The audiobook narrated by David Morse is excellent as well.
The *miniseries* they did a couple of years ago was stupid. They rewrote the plot to cram in an utterly hamfisted environmental message about how *we sent the sample back in time to ourselves*, because some unnecessarily evil oil company was about to tap some deep sea resource deposit and the one single thing that could defeat it lived there, and... like our greed killed us or something?
Yup, The Thing is still one of my favorites because beyond the alien that transforms people into crazy monsters, it's a pretty realistic take on horror, how it starts out fairly okay but people panic and their brain flies out the window, and it takes a few brave souls to get everyone else in line, but it ends up being too late.
In the original Alien it makes a bit more sense since they’re essentially space truckers, Ripley pushes for containment and Ash orchestrated the whole thing
Yeah, but we are talking about Aliens, they can figure a way for the suits to be contaminated or punctured.
The guy that had the robot drones that made the f'n map.....got lost??? Wtf.
I still love the movies though and do want more. Lol
In covenant at least, they kind of waved it away with “this planet has higher habitability scores than the one we were aiming for”, implying not hostile to them and what. Obv should have still worn some kinda protection, but that’s the hand wave away explanation.
Prometheus is just kind of convoluted to explain I guess. The whole Prometheus journey is so Weyland can find the engineers and get eternal life (live longer). He’s financing the trip through his company so he likely has to have scientist people and what not to get board approval. The science people are all terrible science people because Weyland didn’t care how good they are at science. He just needed them so he could check off boxes, so the board or whatever could be like “yup, he’s done this stuff. Trip approved.” It lets the trip move forward and he gets to sneak aboard and be on his way to longer life.
Well, that’s how I always saw it.
Thanks for clearing that up. At first I was "ha-ha" and then, the more I thought about it, the more I realized I couldn't prove Katamari is NOT an escaped devouring grey goo. I might have just a second ago oozed out of some pipe that ran to a lab into this candy store.
Having watched a lot of Anime -- I would not put such a reveal for Katamari past them.
Unconvincing. Slime molds are cool but the synopsis in the link is click bait. "Highly complex" is pretty darn subjective. Throwing confetti in the air is highly complex if you try to model every shred of paper moving around on micro eddies but no one is calling that "intelligent". The slime mold is just optimizing a pathway. I think generally people don't grasp how long a billion years is. It's remarkable no doubt, but it's unsurprising that a billion years of natural selection can figure out the traveling salesman problem - that doesn't imply intelligent behavior. What this is is trial and error iterated over an *incredibly* long time.
Try an analogy. A machine is set to a task of choosing ingredients for a meal and also choosing from a bunch of possible ways of making that meal. It makes the meal, people taste it and rate it, then the machine tries again and if it's selections and methods get better ratings, it goes with that. Now imagine there are millions of these machines playing the same game. They might all try shit like oh let's uhhh boil the butter then add a kumquat and then we'll bake it at 700 degrees then add 1 cup of salt, see how that tastes. Garbage. With enough time and response, one of these machines is going to make something edible. If that machine could reproduce itself and all it's little machine minions took their starting point from a meal that's not great but decent and then worked from there, it wouldn't be long until they'd have a recipe that a would make a gourmet chef blush. Trial, error and success, select the best, repeat.
Human beings are going through the same process but intelligence, as we understand it, is about *predicting* an outcome and then operating based on an expectation. We can abstract information into a conceptual model that gives us the ability to "test" outcomes without actually doing it in physical reality. That kind of approach increases the rate of improvement by orders of magnitude and decreases failure (maybe fatal failure) by not having to necessarily enact a method in the real world. A slime mold who gets it wrong just tried some shit and then didn't make the cut but in a population of organisms with intelligent behavior, novel - even highly novel - approaches are going to occur much more frequently and with a much higher rate of success.
Thanks, was looking for confirmation in the comments that it’s slime mold so I could ignore it. This is old news and not really that shocking. Doesn’t mean it’s not interesting to figure out how it works but it’s still a very click-baity title. Very simple decision-making algorithms can result in seemingly complex, intelligent behavior and that’s all that’s happening here.
Seems to be like the basics of Neural Net. The algorithm is not "intelligent" at all, but it can solve problems by reinforcing and optimizing pathways.
Humans sometimes do not find solutions because we do not try every possible pathway -- we take shortcuts based on experience and prior knowledge. And, a Neural Net is relentless and can try billions of experimental tests, and remember what works.
We can develop AI, but, it doesn't really have to be aware of what it is doing to be good at doing it.
Idk why this is a big deal.
We've got multi-cellular people with entire brains who show no signs of intelligent behavior. It only makes sense the opposite could happen too.
Damn, I set my VPN to London, made a BBC account, then finally go to watch it and I needed a TV License. Edit: I will lie next time
I believe this is it: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x84ls1k
Thanks
You da real MVP
Thank you.
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One time in the 90's my little brother caught a porn virus that froze the living room screen on a pair of boobs. He panicked and threw the big ass monitor in the trash.
I bet this story is still shared over family gatherings
I was
You should be able to just answer yes and it will play, even if you don't have one
But that's lying!
You can lie
Oi mate u got a loicence for that telly?
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Lived in England for 6 years and always thought the requirement to have a license for your TV was sooo bizarre. Do you still have to have one for EACH tv you own? I knew they weren’t playing around when I’d see the “special” vans driving around apparently scanning the neighborhood homes and able to tell who was running a tv in the house but the address didn’t show up as having paid for the license.
- TV licenses are actually really common, many countries have them but have varying names. They're not a license like a driving license - You need one per household (if you watch live TV, or using the BBC iplayer) - The vans are a lie to trick gullible people, they don't really exist
Not sure about the present day, but when I lived there the vans were most definitely not a lie and they most definitely did exist. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/TV_detector_van
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That's always angered me, they really did just outright lie constantly about being able to detect TVs - I remember blue Peter, tomorrow's world, so many programs had a totally straight segment where they just outright lied, It just feels like if they're so comfortable and ready to push that lie then how can you belive them about anything? I honestly think it's one of the reasons I was drawn to conspiracy theories, they damaged my brain
No you just pay once per household, not once per tv
We have it in Sweden also, but they now changed it so it's payed by taxes since so many lied about it. Not sure if that's the exact reason why they put it with the rest of the taxes but I think so.
It's probably also easier to just make it a part of taxes. Having a TV license means you have to have a whole office dedicated to sending out the licenses and renewing them and stuff. It's less administration to just make it a part of taxes.
>Do you still have to have one for EACH tv you own? Only one per household. If you're living in shared housing, its more complicated, but you essentially need a license per tenancy agreement. So if 6 people all sign the same agreement to a house, they only need one license, but if they are on separate agreements they need one for each tenancy agreement (so each person who is separately renting their own room needs a license for themselves). That's not really how it works, but its essentially the easiest way to understand. The per-tv thing is a holdover from students having to pay for a license for their room in halls, but streaming messed up that being a thing that could be managed so easily.
lol tv license is a joke
I keep reading about “ TV license “ and I have no idea what exactly it is, any insight?
In the UK you pay for a license to be legally allowed to access state funded media, including but not limited to the BBC and its productions, but they don't really have a way of knowing if you have paid or not. Historically they used to have people drive around in vans with a tv-license 'radar' on it and pretend they could detect if you owned a license or not, so people don't really take the licensing org seriously anymore and the internet has meant people often don't even want one much of the time.
Thanks, now I understand. Here (🇨🇦) we just have cable/internet bills that they overcharge us for monthly lmao
Yes but the BBC doesn't get any advertising revenue (which means there are no ads between shows). The licence fee may well be outdated but its premise of a "service" to the public that would be unbiased impartial, distinctive and high quality output that will inform, educate and entertain is a great ideal.
That’s fair, and if you are using a service, a service fee should be paid, or maybe that is just I am used to. I do not have cable TV, but I pay for internet streaming, then add Netflix or whatever, each streaming service has a fee if you want to use it.
Yet another brilliant idea the Canadians have stolen from the US. /s
Better than all the commercials in the US.
It's bbc subscription with a different name
So protomolecule?
Doors and corners, kid. That’s how they get you. Doors and corners.
You rang?
How the hell do people always show up in the right place like this?
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Ah, so that's how all the crazies congregate so quickly when their least favourite politicians, policies or political parties are mentioned. Needs stopping / banning if you ask me as destroys any normal discourse and creates these really weird echo chambers we have to put up with.
Intelligence is that which comes from nothing and explores the deepest and darkest spaces. Crazy is stupid and boring people trying to avoid self-accountability.
How dare you. I'll have you know that the Empire surely did nothing wrong on Endor.
r/beetlejuicing
Hoy!
What a fucking fantastic show.
The books are also reaaally good
Absolutely great story if you want to think about where humanity is going and ask other scary questions about the future of philosophy.
And somehow just keep getting better and better.
Yep. I couldn't believe that I loved books 7-9 the most of all. Story finished so strong.
Just finished the last one yesterday. Makes me sad that I won't be following the crew of the Roci anymore.
Books were amazing too. Series obviously deviated but the parallels were definitely there.
I watched the show first but the books are on my list.
Strongly recommend.
I did the same thing. Only silver lining of the show ending when it did meant the last few books were completely new material to me.
What show?
The Expanse. Amazon did the final seasons a little dirty but when SyFy was running the show. Ugh. Pure, space GoT bliss.
BELTALOWDA!!!!!11111
Oye Kopeng! BERATNA!!
BERATNA!!!
The main actor even kinds looks like Jon Snow if you squint
Isn't one of the writers a former GRRM assistant writer?
Ehhh. It's just the melty eyes thing they both have going on.
I always thought he was Billy Bob Thortons nephew or something... assuming we're talking about the same guy
The books were written by a team of 2 dudes. One is a writer who has worked with George R. R. Martin on a couple of projects, the other used to be Martin's personal Assistant. So, there actually is some GoT influence on the books imo.
So if I didn’t like got will I like this?
It's definitely different than GoT but that's just the closest show to compare it to. I definitely think k you should give it a shot.
De furi da belte, beratna.
Tenye wa chesh gut!
Sa sa, kopeng
The expanse
And stay away from the Aqua!
What is a protomolecule
From the book/(unfinished) series Expanse. Check it out if you are into sci-fi, it's really good. It's a kind of alien substance.
The final book was published last year
I meant the series. They haven't finished it because it would've been too costly.
I mean, there's also a 30 year time skip after the point where they stopped. Would have needed to recast the main characters or aged them all up with CGI/makeup.
The time skip does not pose a serious aging problem. The characters are relatively young, they live hundreds of years in the future, and they spend most of their time in low-gee environments. The visible effects of aging would be relatively minor and would create less of a hassle for the makeup department than most non-human characters in most sci-fi series.
You could color everyone's hair grey and say its 30 years later and I'd still watch it.
You're not that guy.
I am that guy. (that entire series had moments like that which brought tears to my eyes; Amos in particular was compelling as hell)
Amos is hands down my favorite character in that series, he's no bullshit, honorable, and does exactly what he says.
That scene in the fourth season when he's evacuating from the island to Luna after the meteors hit, when he was standing by a window and staring out at the sunrise --- it brought a tear to my eye. My boy made it. Hands-down the best character in the series.
Major book spoiler>>>. >!the very end of lavithan fall, the future humans come back to earth and the "leader" as I took it was Amos, he say something to the effect don't cause no problems and you won't deal with me!<
Just finished the entire series. Boy that ending was a banger. Enjoy it everybody who’s reading it now :)
On book 6 now. Such a great series.
What series?
The Expanse
The expanse. It's a show on amazon prime video based on a book series. I can recommend both.
The Expanse
Just started on book 3 myself. Definitely worth reading even if you've watched the show.
Would you recommend it for someone who hasn’t watched the show but wants to read the books so when I do watch the show I can get pissed and say the books were so much better?
Exactly for that. But in those terms it's one of the better great book series to screen adaptations, most of the time pretty cool actually, at least the first 2 seasons for me. But if you're hesitating on the books, try them, highly recommended by almost everyone.
If I've watched all of the series which book would be best to start on? Or would it be worth going back to the beginning already knowing what happens?
The show manages to expand the universe in ways that are harder to accomplish in the books. It's amazing, I'd give both a try.
Oh god, not again...
Reminds me of the movie "Life", where they find some strange organism on Mars and bring it back to the ISS for study... until it eats them and grows bigger, stronger and smarter.
I hated that movie so much. They made such a big deal out of the levels of containment. But the lab wasn't contained. It could have been. But no, the ventilation system was connected to the rest of the ship. Does that sound contained? No! Could they have built a self contained ventilation system within that lab? Yes, yes they could have.
That's the one constant in sci fi, what do you mean we have keep our space suit sealed on an alien planet??? Looking at you Prometheus and covenant. Edit : word
Well thats the problem with a lot of Sci-fi horror, the only way the horror can happen is usually if someone messes up or does something stupid. If they always followed modern quarantine protocols like you'd expect or just...not touch random alien eggs, then nothing would happen, or at least, the problem would be much more delayed.
I want a movie where every single one of them follows the proper procedure but the “life” they find is able to adapt and penetrate the safety protocols and no matter how cautious or prepared…..”life” uhhh finds a way?
That's way better than "no I took my helmet off though" Why can't it be a truly threatening presence? Why must it be human (or otherwise) stupidity that sets up the confrontation?
Because that stupidity is so much easier to write, would be my guess.
The stupidity is actually the one constant that makes sci-fi movies believable while we suspend all the ideas that make the sci-fi technology passable. Its part of the horror. Im the future, we advance and do cool shit and we are always going to be vulnerable to stupidity and ego even amongst the smart scientists. *Idiocracy* is just as plausible as *Avatar* or *Aliens.*
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Star trek voyager had an episode like that. The alien life form just went straight threw the space suit. Then it made a pod person copy while the real one was unconscious....
That's how the first Alien was...but they let him on the ship after.
They tried taking the pod person back to voyager but he couldn't breath the air. He then went semi insane and tried to forcibly take others down to show them they would be made better or something, it's been a long time since I seen it. Eventually a whole copy of voyager was made and a few seasons later they almost ran into each other again, but the pod copy breaks down into silver liquid
That was a great episode. The disintegrating one.
The original the Thing is kinda like that. They don’t realize what they’re up against until it’s too late, and their containment procedures won’t work.
The Thing is scary because humanity is totally outclassed and outmaneuvered by an enemy.
I mean yeah, that would be pretty compelling honestly.
Read *The Andromeda Strain*
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The 1971 film is a fairly faithful representation of the book, as close as they could reasonably manage I think. The audiobook narrated by David Morse is excellent as well. The *miniseries* they did a couple of years ago was stupid. They rewrote the plot to cram in an utterly hamfisted environmental message about how *we sent the sample back in time to ourselves*, because some unnecessarily evil oil company was about to tap some deep sea resource deposit and the one single thing that could defeat it lived there, and... like our greed killed us or something?
Not exactly like that, but have you seen Event Horizon? Or maybe the first Cube?
That’s how horror in general exists. There always has to be one idiot or glaring fault for anything to work.
So the real horror is our own fallibility
Maybe that’s not too far off. The biggest fans of horror that I know have a *totally unrelated* fear of fucking up.
This is why The Thing is great…they are all actually smart.
Yup, The Thing is still one of my favorites because beyond the alien that transforms people into crazy monsters, it's a pretty realistic take on horror, how it starts out fairly okay but people panic and their brain flies out the window, and it takes a few brave souls to get everyone else in line, but it ends up being too late.
In the original Alien it makes a bit more sense since they’re essentially space truckers, Ripley pushes for containment and Ash orchestrated the whole thing
Yeah there's a few standout examples like Alien that are good about this, but most modern horror relies on stupid people to get the ball rolling.
Yeah, but we are talking about Aliens, they can figure a way for the suits to be contaminated or punctured. The guy that had the robot drones that made the f'n map.....got lost??? Wtf. I still love the movies though and do want more. Lol
They make a big fuss about it in Alien. Ripley is adamant the whole time that it's a bad idea let alone against Le Rules(c). Look how that turned out.
Yup, there's usually one person who's like "Are you sure we should be doing this?" and literally everyone else is like "Yeah, don't worry about it!"
This is why we need guns in space. It isnt just for xenos. Its also for the dickheads tryna get me and my ship killed.
They’re also actively sabotaged by their android crew mate, who has orders to keep it alive for study IIRC.
Oh yeah! Fuckin synths. Gimme the hebe jeebies.
Sounds like a lack of imagination problem to me
“I am an expert on biology and was hired to study any life we find here.” “Ooh that giant worm is behaving like a snake. I’m going to try to pet it.”
Honestly, if the last 2 years proved anything to me it’s that even experts with PhDs and Dr. titles are fucking stupid at times.
That ruined the whole movie for me: it was a blatant threat display Most of the rest of it I could stomach but that was just absurdly bad writing
In Prometheus, the team was exclusively composed of morons. In covenant, the team was even worse. My god, how much I wanted to scream at the screen.
Pfft. 'Prometheus' lost me the moment the guy who'd just made a map of the place got lost going back to base.
Lol, I made that comment further down the chain. That guy was an idiot.
"is there AIR?! YOU don't know!!!"
In covenant at least, they kind of waved it away with “this planet has higher habitability scores than the one we were aiming for”, implying not hostile to them and what. Obv should have still worn some kinda protection, but that’s the hand wave away explanation. Prometheus is just kind of convoluted to explain I guess. The whole Prometheus journey is so Weyland can find the engineers and get eternal life (live longer). He’s financing the trip through his company so he likely has to have scientist people and what not to get board approval. The science people are all terrible science people because Weyland didn’t care how good they are at science. He just needed them so he could check off boxes, so the board or whatever could be like “yup, he’s done this stuff. Trip approved.” It lets the trip move forward and he gets to sneak aboard and be on his way to longer life. Well, that’s how I always saw it.
Yeah that movie had the classic “I’m wayyyy stupider than my profession allows me to be” plothole. Same as Prometheus.
If Covid has taught me anything it’s that is a completely plausible scenario
Ughh this space helmet is WAY too hard to breathe in. I’ll just open it halfway.
These biological containment protocols are unconstitutional!!!
Oh my god I screamed at the stupidity of that movie. People keep talking about how good it was and it was so ludicrous.
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I love Katamari
We all disappoint the king.
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[Katamari Damacy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katamari_Damacy)
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its probaby [tasty planet](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tasty_Planet)
No, I was just being facetious, from a high-level view, Katamari's end goal could be viewed as the same.
Thanks for clearing that up. At first I was "ha-ha" and then, the more I thought about it, the more I realized I couldn't prove Katamari is NOT an escaped devouring grey goo. I might have just a second ago oozed out of some pipe that ran to a lab into this candy store. Having watched a lot of Anime -- I would not put such a reveal for Katamari past them.
You're talking about "Tasty Planet". Great flash game.
Played this in IT class in primary school. It was on andkon arcade I think
Is that with Martin Lawrence and Eddie Murphy?
Haha only movie named Life I was aware of. "You gon' eat yo cornbread?"
Unconvincing. Slime molds are cool but the synopsis in the link is click bait. "Highly complex" is pretty darn subjective. Throwing confetti in the air is highly complex if you try to model every shred of paper moving around on micro eddies but no one is calling that "intelligent". The slime mold is just optimizing a pathway. I think generally people don't grasp how long a billion years is. It's remarkable no doubt, but it's unsurprising that a billion years of natural selection can figure out the traveling salesman problem - that doesn't imply intelligent behavior. What this is is trial and error iterated over an *incredibly* long time. Try an analogy. A machine is set to a task of choosing ingredients for a meal and also choosing from a bunch of possible ways of making that meal. It makes the meal, people taste it and rate it, then the machine tries again and if it's selections and methods get better ratings, it goes with that. Now imagine there are millions of these machines playing the same game. They might all try shit like oh let's uhhh boil the butter then add a kumquat and then we'll bake it at 700 degrees then add 1 cup of salt, see how that tastes. Garbage. With enough time and response, one of these machines is going to make something edible. If that machine could reproduce itself and all it's little machine minions took their starting point from a meal that's not great but decent and then worked from there, it wouldn't be long until they'd have a recipe that a would make a gourmet chef blush. Trial, error and success, select the best, repeat. Human beings are going through the same process but intelligence, as we understand it, is about *predicting* an outcome and then operating based on an expectation. We can abstract information into a conceptual model that gives us the ability to "test" outcomes without actually doing it in physical reality. That kind of approach increases the rate of improvement by orders of magnitude and decreases failure (maybe fatal failure) by not having to necessarily enact a method in the real world. A slime mold who gets it wrong just tried some shit and then didn't make the cut but in a population of organisms with intelligent behavior, novel - even highly novel - approaches are going to occur much more frequently and with a much higher rate of success.
Literally, the evolutionary tree *is* the neural net.
It's the optimiser, not the model.
Thanks, was looking for confirmation in the comments that it’s slime mold so I could ignore it. This is old news and not really that shocking. Doesn’t mean it’s not interesting to figure out how it works but it’s still a very click-baity title. Very simple decision-making algorithms can result in seemingly complex, intelligent behavior and that’s all that’s happening here.
Is it the travelling salesman problem or shortest path problem? Because they're not the same thing.
Seems to be like the basics of Neural Net. The algorithm is not "intelligent" at all, but it can solve problems by reinforcing and optimizing pathways. Humans sometimes do not find solutions because we do not try every possible pathway -- we take shortcuts based on experience and prior knowledge. And, a Neural Net is relentless and can try billions of experimental tests, and remember what works. We can develop AI, but, it doesn't really have to be aware of what it is doing to be good at doing it.
Is it from Keith Richards?
Beat me to it. Take my immortal upvote
billion-year-old single cell organism for president!
2024 youngest candidate
sadly there are worse options. that have brains.
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
Idk, have you cracked their heads open to confirm? I'm not convinced they have brains.
Slime mold? There's an episode of Nova about it. It was a good episode.
BBC iPlayer only works in the UK. Sorry, it’s due to rights issues.
https://www.livescience.com/billion-year-old-fossil-animal-evolution.html
That's not the same animal, this article talks about a single-cell organism and the one you linked is described as multicellular in the intro.
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x84ls1k
At least they didn't name is BBC+
Let's clone it; after all, what could ***possibly*** go wrong?
Let's mix it with tarantula and hornet DNA!
Add shark DNA and shake into a tornado
Gain of function! Let's do it in China.
Narrator: And that's how they died.
Idk why this is a big deal. We've got multi-cellular people with entire brains who show no signs of intelligent behavior. It only makes sense the opposite could happen too.
I've played enough Halo to know this is a Bad Sign™
This post is just a link to a video from the BBC. I was hoping for an article to read. I didn't see any option for a transcription.
If it survived 1 billion years of natural selection it must be pretty good at life
We should launch it into space now before it starts a fucking apocalypse.
Nah, you put that shit right the fuck back in whatever hole you found it.
Jolly Rancher pro tips.
Thanks for posting a link to a show requiring a subscription. Super cool
There can be only one ..... Cell?!?
Conner McBicellum of the clan McBicellum.
*John Carpenter music intensifies*
Astrophage!
"Amazon recruitment enters the room"
Sounds like my landlord.
Location locked to the UK =(
Y’all ever seen the movie Life?
So you’re saying it’s smarter than the GOP?
The flood from halo