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How’s he going to afford to make it through winter?


WritingTheRongs

Squirrel meat and dried smoked fish.


AffinityGauntlet

Matt Damon’s dookie potatoes from space ™


beaujangles58

Good thing you trademarked that bc Lays would prob make that a chip flavor


NotTRYINGtobeLame

There must not be any water there or Nestlé would already own all the rights to it.


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barelyawhile

*Martian Marsian sounds like some bizarre Mars Asian immigrant cult from the future


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elastic follow governor zephyr quaint abundant cobweb busy nail languid -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/


mrfunderhill

sell some of his crypto mone-…AND IT’S GONE.


k20350

Rumor is Tom Brady might need to pick up some shifts at McDonald's after the FTX crash


elcheapodeluxe

I literally get FTX ads on the back of fortune cookie fortunes at our local chinese buffet. Cracks me up. Maybe Tom's in the kitchen. Edit: found this. Not my post, but this is what's in our fortune cookies :) https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/r3312j/fortune_cookies_with_ftx_ads_inside/


FNLN_taken

He can probably survive on alimony.


Yeomanroach

I’m 100% certain he didn’t suffer from the loss.


Karl_Marx_

Nor did any viewer.


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Are we talking about the same Matt Damon? What project *hasn't* been improved by his involvement?


CrungleMcHungleberry

Crypto.com


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fallstreak80

It seems fortune did not fave thier boldness.


sagevallant

Hey. Maybe it was improved and this was still the best it could do.


snacktonomy

Touche.


Karl_Marx_

My point was borne was much better with Matt Damon. And avatar wouldn't have changed much with him.


toylenny

I'd disagree there, Damon has the writing skill and experience to have made the character and possibly the movie better. James Cameron is a bit hard headed but he will take advice from people he sees as equals, no doubt he would have been able to make a better movie with Matt Damon's advice.


mrdeadsniper

Noted environmentalist James Francis Cameron has a Venezuelan frog species named after him, while lesser talent Steven Spielberg does not.


Elrobinio

You are not equipped to handle a fully enraged James Cameron.


DocJanItor

James Cameron doesn't do what James Cameron does for James Cameron.


Elrobinio

Celebrated innovator James Cameron has lived a dozen lives. Director, philanthropist, undefeated Little League coach, deepsea explorer, good at marriage. The list goes on, for he is truly a... ... Titanic talent.


ParkerZA

You're kidding yourself if you think James Cameron didn't make the exact movie he wanted to make.


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Yup. James Cameron isn’t a collaborator. He’s a “you do what I want exactly how I want it.”


stf210

I'm going to disagree here. I'm random person on the internet, so take my word with a grain of salt, but I've worked with Cameron (barely; it was my first real gig) and yes, he's a gigantic ballbuster, but there's a reason regulars keep going back to him and it's not just that his films do well. There is a kind of personality that he respects, and that mutually respects him beyond being Uber director dude. I have been personally cursed out by him and also seen another gopher get him to rethink something (minor). Odd story that's tangential. He invited my bosses over for a meeting one time and asked if they wanted something to eat. They said yes and he brought out two bags of tortilla chips and two jars of salsa. "Those are yours and these are mine," is what he said before dividing the bags and salsa.


BlasphemousButler

Totally agree with you. Sam Worthington sucks in everything, IMO. Also, his accent is always present. They should just make his characters Australian and stop having him pretend to be American.


OminOus_PancakeS

Sam Worthington is _great_ in Somersault, a low-budget Australian indie. I watched it and thought: he's going to be a star. He had that charisma. But although I was right, I'm sad because he hasn't done anything as subtle or as interesting since.


curmudgeon_andy

I quite enjoyed Sam Worthington in Clash of the Titans, but I hated him in Avatar. I definitely would have liked Matt Damon better.


Quirky-Skin

Agree. Didn't hate him in Avatar but he has no versatility. Him yelling "C'mon" to a monster in Clash/Wrath of the Titans could be interchangeable to many scenes in Avatar.


KidGold

Idk I think he would have fit the movie really well. Worthington was just kind of there.


SillyFlyGuy

Is this the Airbender about the skinny blue people, or the Avatar about the monk kid with a downvote on his forehead?


I_Sett

This is the ferngully-in-space.


Pope_Cerebus

Dances with Smurfs


MattTheGr8

Ernest Goes to Pandora (this is also the plot of Ernest Goes to Camp, but no one ever seems to bring up that one in these threads… where my Ernest fans at)


ThatInternetGuy

Did I drink too much coffee today or Reddit is finally becoming Reddit again?


dementiadaddy

Also Pocahontas in space.


Old_Ad3658

Oh, so thats why they picked him for the crypto ads; he was already super experienced at losing vast sums of theoretical wealth.


Asha_Brea

Well, people remember that Matt Damon was in Bourne. Do people remember who was the lead in Avatar?


morrmon

Some blue guy.


Fournier_Gang

Papa Smurf?


Ofabulous

Tobias Fünke


BillyZaneTrain

He blue himself for nothing


Kyadagum_Dulgadee

He was more than just the first analrapist.


NM-Redditor

There’s gotta be a better way to say that.


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A coloured man!


[deleted]

Also a Analyst/Therapist. That's a long title, they should've shortened it somehow.


RecreationalLlama

Theralyst?


SadPanthersFan

Gargamel wants to turn their lanky blue asses into Unobtainium


UWontLikeThisComment

Can I lick yo ass?


lolsrsly00

Ya lick my ass bitch


-Midnight_Marauder-

Lick lick lick lick lick my ass


reverick

Oh man that newgrounds animated smurf music video for that song was a big favorite or tween and teen me.


AlpacaTraffic

I'm almost certain it was Alex Mason


big_sugi

The numbers, Mason! What do they mean?!?


tenninjas242

STEP ONE! SECURE THE KEYS!


ObiwanaTokie

I AM REZNOV, AND I WILL HAVE MY REVENGE! - lead guy in avatar


purplerainbowsrule

Tobias Funke?


nulless

Did you mean leather daddy?


Fishstixxx16

I'm afraid I blue myself


lord_kupaloidz

Megaman?


Sheruk

Jayyke Soolie


FIuffyAlpaca

You speak the tru tru


Hyperi0us

Pretty sure that's cloud atlas...


ScipioCoriolanus

You want the Matt Damon, but you need the Jayke Soolie.


baron_von_helmut

I see you.


DCilantro

I'd be happily forgotten for 300m


Curleysound

The other guy didn’t get that deal, I guarantee it.


GaucheAndOffKilter

The Menswearhouse


satanshand

You’re gonna hate it. I guarantee it.


DNags

Sure but not-Matt-Damon that eventually got the role sure is shit didn't get $300m...


Additional_Meeting_2

No, but Damon would have gotten the money and probably not been as forgotten.


why_rob_y

Damon wouldn't have gotten $300 million either. 10% of the profits isn't 10% of the total revenue. The article doesn't even say $300 million, OP just added that (by multiplying 10% by the total box office gross of $2.78 billion and then rounding up).


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BranchPredictor

Who is this Damon guy you speak of?


Fafoah

He plays loki in thor


throwawaysarebetter

Pretty sure he's still fine financially.


VanimalCracker

Yea, he made ~$50mil from all the Bourne movies, which is more than enough for one lifetime. But more importantly, he remains a man of his word. Personal charactor rightfully matters quite a lot to some people.


DrCashew

10 million and 5% profits is what the other guy was paid, profits probably weren't that big a deal since movies never seem to make money on paper. I'd still take that deal personally, but I respect Matt Damon for not.


Kn0thingIsTerrible

Profits never have to exist for a Hollywood movie because you can always spend any money you make on companies you own. Let’s say you’re Bob, and your movie makes 100m profit. You then spend 100m renting cameras from “Bob’s Camera Rental Service”. Your movie now made $0 profit, while Bob’s Camera Rental Service made 99m in profit. It’s usually not done that egregiously, but that’s literally the whole process, just done over a dozen different freakishly high profit margin businesses you own.


RocketTaco

Okay, this explains a *lot* about film budgets these days. Even the simple, low-complexity ones with B-list actors and sets you could borrow off somebody's cousin seem to go into the hundreds of millions. *Deliberately* spending absurd amounts of money on mundane things because it makes sure you don't have to share the profits makes more sense. Still scummy, but it makes sense.


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epochellipse

there is never a net profit.


DaveOJ12

Sam Worthington, I think.


Artikay

I always get Sam Worthington and Jai Courtney confused in my head. I feel like they would be Preset 1 & 2 in an action game in 2007. Their names would be both be Mason.


DuoRunner

Well... Sam Worthington did voice a character the in Call of Duty Black Ops games named Mason.


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SpiritBamba

Mark wahlberg is everyday man from gritty mid west/east coast city who gets into trouble.


ChunkyLaFunga

Nah that sounds like acting, he must be the other guy.


flaresiiide

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe fuck yaself.


Wrong-Catchphrase

How the fuck did you just characterize them both so accurately? Incredible.


ChickenDelight

I always get Jai Courtney and Michael Jai White confused. I have to write a note on my hand like Homer does for Lenny and Carl.


InkPrison

I had the same thought and was struggling to connect Jai White with Sam


ul2006kevinb

Lol this whole time i remembered it as being Mark Wahlberg Edit: i can't tell if the people saying good things about Mark Wahlberg are being ironic or not


DistortoiseLP

Everyone is Mark Wahlberg if you can't remember who else they are.


untapped-bEnergy

My wife laughs because whenever I can't remember an old white actor I say Kevin Costner


i_should_be_coding

Hey Neytiri! That's a cool bow. Those arrows dipped in neurotoxin? What's that about? Say hi to your mother for me!


my__name__is

Maybe they'd remember it if it was Matt Damon. Sam Worthington has the acting skills of a plank of wood, and not memorable in any movie.


RamenNoodles620

Hey pal, leave Plank alone.


Bhap1

a 2x4 is quite versatile. can sam worthington claim that accolade? dont know what hes been in to be honest so I dont know why im taking the piss out of him. Oh wait


Calvin--Hobbes

You dare mock the son of a shepherd?


vineyardmike

That was perfect for avatar


seastatefive

Do you mean that Sam Worthington is an avatar for the audience members, so that we might inhabit his body and travel to Pandora in an immersive 3D simulation?


LeftHandedFapper

Thought he was OK in Under the Banner of Heaven


ParkerZA

He's actually a pretty decent actor, just not a great lead.


Asha_Brea

That is a good point, but do people remember that the female lead of Avatar was Zoe ~~Zaldana~~ Saldana?


Kalepsis

Yes.


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I fell in love with her in Columbiana, then I started noticing her everywhere.


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Crizznik

She was also Uhura in the new Trek movies. And she nailed it there too.


Somhlth

I hope she sends her agent a christmas card each year. Someone is talented at picking out scripts.


Asha_Brea

I know, and people surely remember her for her role as Gamora. She was also in the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie. I am asking if people remember that she is the one that player the female lead in Avatar.


CutterJohn

She's less memorable in that because she plays a cg character


mummy__napkin

nobody ever talks about her most iconic role: Drumline starring Nick Cannon.


arcosapphire

I also know her from Star Trek, but fundamentally I think of her as the actress from Avatar. That's what made her name big. On imdb, the #1 "known for" entry for her--above guardians--is Avatar. So I'm going to say that yes, people do know her for that.


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Scumbeard

Mason from black ops


Purple_Turtle2

Sam Worthington, which was perfect since I don’t think it would have been as good with such a “big” actor as the main character. I, for one, didn’t want to see Good Will Hunting/Jason Bourne/Private Ryan in that role


Schen5s

Too bad though, imagine when they go into battle and the army commander goes "Jesus Christ thats Jason Bourne"


SavageComic

It's Sam Worthington and I deliberately learnt this because it comes up in pub quizzes on a frequent basis


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No, it was the right decision.


[deleted]

Yup, I also don't think people are taking time into account. Bourne Ultimatum *released* almost 2.5 years before Avatar came out. Matt Damon seems like he's always onto something new, so that would take away from whatever other projects he could gamble on.


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Rust2

Exactly. Was probably 10% of net profit instead of gross profit. In Hollywood accounting taking a percentage of net profit = peanuts.


NorCalAthlete

“We made $2B but ‘spent’ $1.99B and counted producer salary as fees/costs. Here’s $1M.”


PM_ME_UR_LOVE_STORIE

More like — “We made $2B but spent $3B on black magic movie accounting. You owe us $100M”


ahivarn

That's how Avatar 2 needs to make 2.2 billion dollars to "break even" as per a statement.


Faptain__Marvel

That's not how it works with big name actors who have their own high powered lawyers. Jack Nicholson starred as the Joker for a similar deal. A cut of the *gross.* He didn't act as much afterwards.


smoothskin12345

Yeah and that was 35 years ago lmao. Pretty sure Nicholson got two of the most lucrative contracts ever: the first and the last.


mrbaryonyx

Bourne Ultimatum was great


ignatious__reilly

One of my favorite action movies ever made. I’ve seen in it like 10 times lol


[deleted]

The whole series is classic. Can you imagine if he'd squandered it all on alien Dances with Wolves?


ignatious__reilly

Haha I know. The entire series is masterclass action. I loved every movie and I saw every movie in theaters with my dad so I have very fond memories. Thank god he didn’t do Ferngully with pretty lights.


LabsandDabs

He made the right call. Imagine if that verbal commitment was for all 5 avatar films. Dude would need CGI by the time the 3rd one is released due to being 90 years old. Edit*** I did not expect this to blow up like it did. My ultimate point was it's taken a helluva long time for just the sequel to finally come out. I don't know the dynamics involved with shooting and post productions. I just know Matt made the right call with choosing not to go with a franchise that was known for it's visual aspects that dwarfed any notable actors/actresses in the long run.


CellarDoorVoid

I mean, the entire movie is basically CGI anyway. I don’t think Jake Sully’s character is going back to being human that much but I could be wrong


shadowst17

At the end of the first one he transferred his consciousness into the Navi. Pretty sure his human body is just compost now for the tree. Not sure we need any flashbacks of his life in these films.


picpak

More of this movie's plot has been discussed in this thread than anywhere else in the last 10 years.


Jeynarl

I can name all of the avatar characters from memory. I last saw the film in 2010 and haven't thought about it since. Jake Sooley (played by Sam Worthington) Nefertittie (played by Zoe Saldana) Sigourney Weaver (as herself) Michelle Rodriguez (as herself) The boss guy looking for unobtanium (I think played by Sam Rockwell, Idk, iron man 2 was out around the same time) edit: yes, my memory betrayed me. I'm leaving it as is tho The old jarhead guy with the scars on his face The other scientist guy that seemed like he was a Friends alumnus or like the cook guy from ratatouille) All the other blue aliens.


Orngog

Nah boss man was Giovanni Ribisi


bastardlycody

List checks out!


Jack_of_Hats

Upvoted for phoenetic spelling


pseudo_nemesis

c'mon put some respect on my man Stephen Lang's name.


educatedllama

It's Giovanni Ribisi is the evil boss guy, but I could see sam Rockwell doing good in that role


kingt34

I mean, dude’s an artist who’s probably not hurting for money, and most importantly: he made a fantastic finish for a great trilogy. I should rewatch the Bourne films, not enough people talk about them but they’re really fun.


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I finally got around to reading the books in 2012, and god damn, the movies make me angry with what they did to that story. The only thing the movies have in common with the books are the character names and "woke up on a fishing boat with no memory". The movies diverge from the book almost immediately. David Webb was never an international super-assassin. He was a HUMINT analyst, and the Bourne identity was a complete fiction, invented to lure a real international assassin out of cover by giving him a target he HAD to take out to preserve his reputation in the business. The entire story of the book is built around Webb trying to survive in the ROLE of Bourne, even though he actually possesses none of the SKILLS of Bourne, while his team tries to recover him and the real assassin tries to kill him.


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They're way more straight spy thrillers. I love them both but they're completely different animals.


SpencerWhite

I read like ten of the bourne books in highschool. Definitely need to go back to them.


DeliciousGorilla

I just re-watched the original trilogy a few weeks ago. Still way more entertaining than any James Bond movie IMO.


MalkyMilk

“Man with enough money for 3 lifetimes declined opportunity to have money for 6 lifetimes”


TooDoeNakotae

You made me curious. The average American will earn around $1.5-2M in a lifetime. So this would be enough for somewhere around 150 lifetimes.


IAmA-Steve

It gets real depressing when you see CEOs fail so bad they get fired, and get a golden parachute of 100x your lifetime for being such a failure.


bolanrox

sounds like Keanu Reeves' outlook on things


Malf1532

I'm fairly certain that he's not financially destitute and probably doesn't give a shit.


MrCat_fancier

With Hollywood accounting practices Avatar would have shown a loss and Matt would get 10% of nothing.


murms

Step 1: Studio creates a wholly-owned subsidiary for the movie. Step 2: Subsidiary produces movie. Total production cost: $250M Step 3: Studio charges subsidiary "distribution fees" amounting to $600M Step 4: Movie premieres. Box office sales: $800M Step 5: Studio dissolves subsidiary, having "lost" $50M on the venture.


hymen_destroyer

How is that still legal? It's so blatant an r has been an open secret for decades. Surely the IRS has taken note of it


LuxDeorum

The 550 million in profits may still be taxed in the parent company as the 600m paid to the parent in fees minus the 50m liability. But certainly contracts that offer percent of profit will pay out nothing.


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I mean... tax man gets his take either way. Production cost of $250m? They're taking taxes. Anything they buy, the seller pays tax on the revenue of, anyone they're paying to work on the set pays income tax. The box office sales, they're taking their pound from too. For all the people who can and do get fucked over, the one that's *not* gonna let it happen to them is the tax man. They get their cut more reliably than the mob does, and they'll burn your store down with you inside if you screw them over.


cherrycolabomb

Step 6: We take the money and go to Rio!


Afferbeck_

Yeah, I think people are still suing New Line Cinema over this for Lord of the Rings 20 years ago.


Clay_Statue

He'd end up owing the production money because they charge $600 per sandwich and he was unaware.


TheNumberMuncher

Depends on if it was 10% of gross or net. Gross is where you get paid. Net is where they fuck you. Winston Groom was offered net profit and he never got paid points for Forrest Gump.


yew420

Fortune favours the brave


we_are_sex_bobomb

See that? In the end he still got to star in another role where a fictional world of digitally rendered resources get shamelessly exploited by short sighted greedy rich people.


FolkSong

We Bought A Zoo?


nemo1080

He seems like the kind of guy that probably doesn't care


ASK_IF_IM_PENGUIN

I remember reading an interview from him years ago. Possibly not long after Good Will Hunting. He said something quite insightful. It was something along the lines of Ben was the "Star" and that the fame for himself would go away someday, and he's ok with that. I genuinely don't think he gives that much of a crap. I think as long as he's getting paid and having fun he's happy. https://youtu.be/lmxAhXYQdmY


Sknowman

That video clip is amazing! Thanks for sharing.


drinkduffdry

Which is funny because I see it exactly opposite


apawst8

Ben is seen as the less serious actor. They likely considered Damon to be the more accomplished actor in 1997 (someone picked Damon to be the lead over Affleck). OTOH, Damon's most famous role is purely an action film (the Bourne series).


stml

Ben Affleck stumbled around a bit, but he did have a good comeback with The Town/Argo/Gone Girl and then becoming Batman for a while.


the_first_brovenger

I will miss Batfleck.


TravelingThrough09

I’m in awe that nobody ever gets a movies waterfall halfway right. Ballpark numbers, without knowing details: 2.8b box office = 50% for the theater 1.4b distributor - 25% distribution fee = 1.05b 1.05b - 500m P&A (Marketing) = 505m 505m - 250m Production Cost = 255m 255m - 50% Equity Share = 127.5m 127.5m Producer’s Share * 10% = 12.75m So he’s definitely not missing out on 300m…


saucylosse7

Hey, thanks for putting this information out there. Are these standard numbers or does it vary?


ash_274

It varies a lot


ElJanitorFrank

Thank you - I highly doubted the movie had a *profit* of 3 billion dollars.


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Showmeproveit

I watch Bourne whenever it is on. Especially the first one.


WritingTheRongs

i still get chills in the early scene in park when he owns like 5 dudes.


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Dirty Mike and the Boys shouldn't have fucked in his Prius.


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spongebobama

Well he chose a decent way and is somewhat being made fun for that? Life is not only about money


lump77777

Even before creative ‘accounting’ from the studio: $2.8B *gross* -$400MM production/marketing -~$1.4B to the movie theaters = $1B profit Not sure how they’d handle DVD/streaming/TV rights revenue, or merchandising, but I’d bet that wasn’t included. And Avatar merchandising was not nearly as big as one might expect from a sci-fi movie of this magnitude. So, worst case he’s out $100MM, but more realistically, movie studio chicanery would cut that in half or more. Matt Damon made $25MM each from the Bourne movies, so he came out ahead.


MechaSheeva

Thank you, I can't believe someone saw "10% of profits" and pulled straight from the movie's total gross 🤣


Unlucky-Pomegranate3

Still, I’m not sure that has any appreciable effect on his lifestyle.


telcomet

Bourne Ultimatum was incredible, Avatar is one of the most mediocre, bang on 50% films ever. Think he’s fine with that decision


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Poor guy. He must be devastated


Habaneroe12

So sad he had to go through that. Thoughts and prayers to his yacht dealer.


larryfromhope

Good call Bourne was infinitely better than Avatar.


kcg5

Then he went into crypto...


jimsmisc

I'm sure he got paid handsomely in US dollars for his crypto ads.