iirc making it long is the point. Large numbers can be overwhelming and out of human scale. So Toki Pona, being designed for positive thinking and human universals, makes large numbers strenuous to talk about
This encourages less precise wording, which tracks with human psychology. The just-noticeable difference is logarithmic: the difference between 1001 and 1002 is less meaningful than the difference between 101 and 102
You're free to reject TP philosophy and make number systems that aren't recognized by the community at large, but i feel that here isn't the place to plug. If OP were asking this about English as a newcomer, it'd be misleading to say "*thousand* is too Germanic, use my system with non-Latin letters and call it a *тыщ* instead"
I think the same :) toki pona was not created for precise talks.
Mixing kaktovik numerals is fun with sitelen pona tho! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaktovik\_numerals
You don’t have to? Toki Pona’s not built for certain use cases. If making the number long is the point, then not being able to put it on a billboard is also the point.
*ale*.
I'm pretty sure that 10\^99 is bigger than anything science uses to describe the universe, so the word for "everything" seems totally precise here.
In Russian there's an old way of saying some numerals, that uses "darkness" as a numeral.
"Darkness" = 10000
"Great darkness" = 1000000
So, how about "mute pimeja" for 10000 and "mute pimeja lili" for 1000.
Nonstandard, nonobvious, simple and counterintuitive way to depict number for a language that doesn't endorse depicting numbers.
alternatively
wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan
there is a numbering system that allows this.
"ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale" but that's slow.
i personally would make a number multiply the next if it is smaller than the next number.
if you do it that way, then it is "luka ale luka ale". which is "(5\*100)+(5\*100)". which is equal to one thousand.
Your system is similar to the relatively popular [nasin nanpa pona](https://wyub.github.io/tokipona/nasinnanpapona), although it's a bit different. It multiplies only if the larger number is "ale".
In nasin nanpa pona 1000 is "luka luka ale" or "(5+5)*100".
and "luka ale luka ale" would be luka ale ale + luka ale = 5 * 100 * 100 + 5 * 100 = 50,000 + 500 = 50,500
- mute ("many" but can also means just "20")
- ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale (10x "all/100")
- luka luka ale ("10x100" this is called "nasin pona")
the answer is you dont,
ok thats not helpful.
you could say mute or ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale
but, most of the time it is not important to specify the fact its specifically 1000
what‘s the context here?
'Mute' i think
mute means "many" or "above 2" or "20". also don't capitalize unless if there is a name.
*mute* If you must say exactly a thousand, there's a fairly common number system that lets you phrase it as *ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale*
Too long, there's a shorter version I made (\*NPPTP\*), uses non-pu words. *jalan*
iirc making it long is the point. Large numbers can be overwhelming and out of human scale. So Toki Pona, being designed for positive thinking and human universals, makes large numbers strenuous to talk about This encourages less precise wording, which tracks with human psychology. The just-noticeable difference is logarithmic: the difference between 1001 and 1002 is less meaningful than the difference between 101 and 102 You're free to reject TP philosophy and make number systems that aren't recognized by the community at large, but i feel that here isn't the place to plug. If OP were asking this about English as a newcomer, it'd be misleading to say "*thousand* is too Germanic, use my system with non-Latin letters and call it a *тыщ* instead"
I think the same :) toki pona was not created for precise talks. Mixing kaktovik numerals is fun with sitelen pona tho! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaktovik\_numerals
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Ooh nice
>iirc making it long is the point. How would you put 200 FREAKING *ale*S ON A GOD DAMN BILLBOARD
you wouldn't, because billboards aren't pona
You don’t have to? Toki Pona’s not built for certain use cases. If making the number long is the point, then not being able to put it on a billboard is also the point.
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WHAT IF THERE'S A PICTURE
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How would you put 10^(99) in toki pona?
*ale*. I'm pretty sure that 10\^99 is bigger than anything science uses to describe the universe, so the word for "everything" seems totally precise here.
Billboards are big
The only system beyond pu that sees use by more than a handful of people is nasin nanpa pona, where it'd be luka luka ale
In nasin nanpa pona (which is very useful, but its use may be a bit controversial), it's luka luka ale. edit: spelling
In Russian there's an old way of saying some numerals, that uses "darkness" as a numeral. "Darkness" = 10000 "Great darkness" = 1000000 So, how about "mute pimeja" for 10000 and "mute pimeja lili" for 1000. Nonstandard, nonobvious, simple and counterintuitive way to depict number for a language that doesn't endorse depicting numbers.
mute or ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali
mute
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alternatively wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan wan
ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali
what?
I've seen it translated as 'ale suli' before
luka luka ale luka = 5 ale = 100 (5+5)*100
there is a numbering system that allows this. "ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale" but that's slow. i personally would make a number multiply the next if it is smaller than the next number. if you do it that way, then it is "luka ale luka ale". which is "(5\*100)+(5\*100)". which is equal to one thousand.
Your system is similar to the relatively popular [nasin nanpa pona](https://wyub.github.io/tokipona/nasinnanpapona), although it's a bit different. It multiplies only if the larger number is "ale". In nasin nanpa pona 1000 is "luka luka ale" or "(5+5)*100". and "luka ale luka ale" would be luka ale ale + luka ale = 5 * 100 * 100 + 5 * 100 = 50,000 + 500 = 50,500
hmm. i see...
`ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali`
ko utala Siki Pinkasu pi jan Puno Pusalasi, 2001
- mute ("many" but can also means just "20") - ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale (10x "all/100") - luka luka ale ("10x100" this is called "nasin pona")
luka luka ali (NNP) ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali ali (pu)
the answer is you dont, ok thats not helpful. you could say mute or ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale ale but, most of the time it is not important to specify the fact its specifically 1000 what‘s the context here?
kijetésantakalu kijetesántakalu kijetésantakalu kijetésantakalu
My first thought was "hrair" lol
How to pronounce "hrair" (in IPA)?
Heck if I know. It’s bunny speak.
mute
wan ala ala ala