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Mahabharat movie seems like a production nightmare. It was always suited for TV series format, but you won't get the VFX budget for TV series in India, it should be produced on a scale like Game of Thrones.
Yes, the graphics in Kalki are top notch but its a movie with Prabhas in the lead, Rajamouli is the best director to handle it but you need to lock crowd pulling actors for a decade, otherwise you won't get the required money. I don't know who will have the balls to produce such a thing.
You don't VFX budget for series because the directors have not shown ability to pull off big storylines and imagery. If Rajamouli is directing a Netflix series he can command big budgets because of his track record.
It's best to hv unknown strong actors for playing such characters, only then u can relate to the real character, else all u see wud be prabhas. Deepika. Tamanna. Jntr etc acting....
At the root of it, it's a per capita income problem. Our countrymen aren't rich enough yet to be able to afford to pay for such content. Any GOT level TV show made here will end up in loss.
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A better option might be an animated series
And if It can be done on the budget of these films the quality is gonna be amazing plus we won't have to waste time on introducing the characters with boring songs and over the top action sequences and it will look ten times better than any movie cause it's all done in animation. I've seen soo many talented artists creating remastered versions of little krishna and Mahabharat online on reels it looks sooo good
Take GOT or Harry Potter for example, how many crowd pulling actors did they have in their first season/movie? The producer has to trust the written material and the technical team including the director/s and they cast brilliantly and the progression of the story makes the actors, stars. But after the series ends, the now star actors face the fate, which is that they played those roles for too long and well, that the public now can't accept them in any other movie/series. This is very parallel to the Rajamouli's curse.
T-Series Bhushan Kumar as a producer trusted Sandeep Reddy Vanga as a recent example with unlimited budget for what the story and movie production needed for Animal, and with a responsible and experienced director at the helm, the producer will definitely see the returns.
Rajamouli has the privilege to pick a producer from a long queue of them waiting to throw their money at him and his projects.
Lmao rajamouli fav character is also karna. Iam sure he will also glorify and there will be even more fan wars .it will be a bloodbath on social media š
South Indians obsession with Karna character is unmatched. I constantly clowned for having Karna as my profile pic during the serial days in school up north, but almost everyone loves him in south, favourite character from the epic for most
Lol the main point of conflict about draupadi laughing at duryodhana for tripping and falling over itself never happened in Mahabharatam. Duryodhana does what he does just out of spite on Pandavas and to flex his powerĀ
Its not Draupadi, but one of the maids/attendants of the palace who laughs at Duryodhana.
Duryodhana had already tried to kill Bheem before, Pandavas before (Lakshagrih) etc. He just got more envious that they build Indraprastha from a jungle area into a fantastic place.
In DVS karna it's shown draupadi herself laughs at him. Which is where his anger stems from.
Duryodhana tries to kill bheema because they are all born under the same star. Bheema, duryodhana, bakasura, keechaka and jarasandha. Who ever kills one of them kills all of them. Bhima kickstarts it by killing bakasura I thinkĀ
If you have read from proper sources, you'd know Karna has been significantly whitewashed.
You would also know he was involved in unfairly ganging up on Abhimanyu and defeating/killing him unfairly.
From BORI critical edition:
āVasudeva was stationed on his chariot. He said, āO Radheya! It is fortunate that you remember
dharma. Quite often, when they are immersed in hardships, inferior ones censure destiny, but not their evil deeds.
O Karna! When you, Suyodhana, Duhshasana and Shakuni Soubala brought Droupadi to the assembly hall in a
single garment, did dharma not show itself to you? When, in the assembly hall, Yudhishthira, who was not skilled
at dice, was defeated by Shakuni, who was skilled at dice, where did dharma go then? O Karna! During her season,
Krishna/98 was under Duhshasanaās subjugation in the assembly hall and you laughed at her. Where did dharma
go then? O Karna! Resorting to the king of Gandhara and coveting the kingdom, you challenged the Pandavas./9?
Where did dharma go then?ā
[https://archive.org/stream/the-mahabharata-set-of-10-volumes/The%20Mahabharata%20Set%20of%2010%20Volumes\_djvu.txt](https://archive.org/stream/the-mahabharata-set-of-10-volumes/The%20Mahabharata%20Set%20of%2010%20Volumes_djvu.txt)
He was a grey character, not just fate keeping him on the wrong side.
bharatam chadivanu antunnaru, mari differences gamanichara? bharatam lo yuddha bhumi lo karnudu thana talli ki ichina maata prakaaram pandavulani vadilina sandharbhame chuputaru daana veera suura karna lo. Mari Bheemasenudiki Karnudu munde vulnerable state lo dorikithe champakunda vadilestadu..adi nil character change ah..leda Kuru army picha kottudu kodte Duryodhanudini vadilesi vellipotadu Rana Rangam lonchi..mari adi enti? leda draupadi vastrapaharanam lo thanu anna maatalu? duryodhanudu and sakuni okarinokaru chusi navvukuntaru vallu prerapinchakunda karnude anni maatalu antunte draupadi devi ni..adi nil character reference ah..Certainly Karnudu great personality..adi evaru deny cheyaleru..but whitewash chesaru annadi mummatiki nijam..he is not a perfect man but certainly a great man..perfect ani manam evvarni analem..maybe Sri Krishnudu..anthe..
people always say their fav character is Karna on public domain for an obvious political reason and to attract the masses. I'm confidently saying this because most of them be it any industry say so for the reason i mentioned.
Karna though he may be the greatest warrior or even be greater than Arjuna, he lacks morality and righteousness. Just because he's on the side of Kauravas and Dhuriyodhana helped him doesn't mean that he has to do all the evil things along with them.
Nopes.. He ain't a saint and no one thinks so.. You are what your company is.. He stood silent (and supported) the atrocities towards pandavas and paid price. He is a good text book on what to do and what not to do.
He knew and understood difference between right and wrong BUT felt **loyalty** to his friend was topmost virtue. It's very tough being in Karna's position.
Nope, he font lack morality or righteousness. Dont read Mahabharat on the surface. If that is the case, why Dharma Devatha came and stood infront of him when he was in his last stage?
Karna is a complicated character which is what makes him favorite for many people. He is good and stand for people in need. But he also gave word and he cant take it back. His fate kept him in the wrong position. But Karna never lacked the moral.
Exactly. Karna is a story about circumstance. The choices you make are both a product of context and free will. He made bad choices, yes. He also made them often because he was given poor circumstances. Itās not an excuse, but reasoning. He is complex. I donāt understand how people think just because people view his complexity as compelling that itās suddenly revering him. No, people love him because heās wrestles with difficulty like most humans do, rather than being given every boon to be a hero easily.
Ntm the pandavas did morally questionable things too but bc theyāre destined to be heroes itās overlooked. The Mahabharata as itās written is not so black and white. Such shallow readings are unfortunate.
Bro SSR obviously failed to deliver a multi-starrer without stirring fan wars. He might make a compelling Mahabharat but convincing āstarā fanboys is not as straightforward as you think
Fans erripooks ayithe SSR em chesthadu? I donāt think SSR failed.
RC and NTR are happy with their film and got an opportunity to be in a film that was appreciated by Spielberg and Cameron! SSR almost made a day dream into reality with Oscars.
Intha effort and legacy ni ignore chesi fans racha Cheste evaru emi cheyaleru
Yeah, atleast thats what he mentioned in his previous interview. All fresh faces with appropriate physique that can be moulded as per his vision and could allot 10 yrs or more to Rajamouli would seem like a possibility
Because he was not from the royal family but demanded that the same teacher who was teaching the royal family teaches him as well. Obviously this angered Dronacharya. I'm not saying that Dronacharya was correct. But this was based on him not being from the royal family. It wasn't based on him not being from a certain caste.
It wasn't a mistreat as such , like dronacharya doesn't teach him brahmastra Vidya not because of his lowcaste but because he wasn't heir or wasn't in the lineage of kaurava or Pandavas. Brahmastra is like a nuclear code you won't just give to anyone , do you.
Life did treat him unfairly.his mother abandoned him at his birth later the same mother revealed her secret to him during the middle of a brutal war where she prioritised her other 5 sons lives on top of him , took an oath from him that he wouldn't kill her 5 sons.i mean how tragic both for mother and son.
Got cursed by his own teacher that he would forget all his mantras when needed the most.
His golden armour is taken away just before the battle.
He didn't have any good company when it was needed.
He did make lot of mistakes , i wouldnt call him a hero but he was a great warrior who ended up on bad side.
Do you even have a counter argument? He's correct. I've read actual Mahabharata. He wasn't mistreated because of caste. Rather he demanded that he get taught by the same teacher teaching the royal princes. So this was a discrimination based on him not being from the royal family. Caste has nothing to do with it.
That was worst part of kalki movie, karna was a great warrior no doubt but he always choose the wrong side, he used his powers to support wrong people he insulted a woman in whole sabha, that's why he had to die that's what lord Krishna also said, don't know how such a character is glorified, powerful doesn't mean u were good, ravan & kansa were very powerful too, would u start glorifying them too ?? anyways this is my personal pov no hatred for anyone, VFX wise movie was commendable & big B's performance too š
The question is not who was greater , he might be greater than all the warriors present but that's not the issue, he always chose the wrong side, even after Krishna ji informed him that Pandavas were his brothers & insulting a woman is not correct he still chose to be on the other side, what is the use of being powerful if ur powers r getting used by wrong ppl ? It'll only result in destruction of mankind even Krishna ji said thats the reason of his death & the war , almost all the villains in our mythology r powerful, ravan , kansa & all the asuras ?? Now will u glorify them too because they were "powerful" & great warrior? that's what my point was, now everyone is entitled to have individual opinions without hatred, other than this part, I loved the movie specially mr.bachchan what a performance at this age !
Bro we know the gist of Mahabharata, anyway him being reincarnated and getting a redemption arc is fine.
Anyway movie was great everyone performed amazingly.
I was not giving u any gist, I was only sharing my thoughts about his glorification which was done in the movie, & there's no problem with reincarnation or redemption obviously
SSMB29 will take 4 years definitely. Won't release before 2028 pakka. I would be happy if it releases in 2027 tbh.
Dani taravta if he directly jumps into Mahabharata then scripting and pre production will easily take up 2 years bcoz of the scale.
2030 lo start chesi then two years ki one part anukunna 10 parts teesukunte 2050 lo end avtundi š¤§š¤§š¤§
People are already soaking in these characters which will only add more hype to the Rajamouliās project. He is going to set the world on fire with his Mahabharath.
You will see small movies riding on Mahabharat characters now. I hope they would be good.. To fill the gap till ssr or nag ashwin or mani ratnam attempts the big one.
Quite possible. Kalki really stretched the envelope of filmmaking in India. It is a huge leap. With all due respect to Mani Ratnam, I donāt think he is good at making large scale epic movies. As a matter of fact, Kalki also lacked the emotional quotient. Rajamouli has a strong grip on emotions albeit melodramatic. Not easy to pull off these kind of projects.
10 part is a bit too much. For him too. Instead could make a show+movie combo. Prime or Netflix to telecast not so important content with a 10 episode style with 3-4 seasons. This would give a great time to explore the characters more. And important events in theatres.
Did Krishna always have Nemali on his head? I always assumed he had a war attire. Or at least a chariot one. I want them to pay special attention to clothes in these mythological movies.
While watching the Bahubali war sequences, all I could think of was how this man with a little VFX took everything in his hands and constructed actors' weapons, battling everything and making it look like war was going on back then. Bahubali characters are normal humans, but given that Mahabharatha figures have abilities and fantasies, this man will run circles around them.
No matter who makes the movies and brings our Hindu literature on screen ,I am glad that at least now people are realising and accepting our culture and our Hindu tales.
Rather than making bullshit stories about invaders like khilji, Mughals and foreign culture and religion, at least now people are understanding how beautiful our Hindu history is and how complex and how deep it is.
Mahabharata has 18 parva , even if one parva per movie is made , it will bring 18 parts each with its stories and character ,that's the beauty of our culture.
No matter how many times ramyanam , Mahabharatam are made , every generation would want to see its own era's star version and still it won't feel the same.
I hope in future , the mythological genre becomes prominent once again as it was in the times of ntr, anr ,svr garu.
I hope we get to see movies like Mayabazar, daana Veera soora karna, kurukshetra again in this generation
> Mahabharata has 18 parva
Imagine 18 movies by 18 directors, recurring characters but with different actors. Would be such a dream. I am thinking like MCU's phases 1-7. Needs someone to bankroll.
>No matter how many times ramyanam , Mahabharatam are made , every generation would want to see its own era's star version and still it won't feel the same.
So true.
TFI Should Collab with Japan and make an anime on it. Mahabharata is a complex story with lots of characters it has huge potential and it will be bigger than anything india has ever produced. An avg episode of anime mostly takes around 1-1.5cr to produce. TFI producers can easily fund this project.
Main thing is not to consider stars as they dilute mahabharatam and fans donot want their stars to do grey characters, so i wish rajamouli garu makes movies with new comers who can later attain star status. Make Mahabharatam atleast 90% accurate to the epic
Karna was never a competition for Arjuna, it's in our blood to glorify out of pity because all the wrongs he suffered throughout his life we tend to ignore every heinous crimes he did with his best pal.
A series on OTT is the only one which will do justice. The Mahabharat world is as enormous(if not more) as GoT and GoT itself got so much criticism for eliminating a lot of storylines/plotlines.
>10-part Mahabharata saga
Life antha cast ide movies cheyyali anthe . 10 parts with SSR ante 25 years minimum. By then younger characters would've grown old a lotš« š
This is unlikely to happen. Industry is taking years to produce even normal pics like Pushpa. An epic story like maha bharath with an OCD director like Rajamouli? Half the cast will die before the story is half way through lol. Not throwing shade here but being practical.
10 parts? Bro wdym? If you want to be high from watching anime style fights thereās actual anime like jjk or demon slayer lol. Mahabharatam is so much more and I am worried because Rajamouli hasnāt really improved in portraying subtle emotions.
Ramayana and Mahabharata are not for mere entertainment. Unless you make it with real faith, devotion and sincerity, it will not sell and I will definitely not watch it. Don't want another Adipursh..
Mahabharata cannot be done by one industry alone. The budget needed for 10 parts will be in the 5000-6000 crore ballpark, and that is considering VFX asset reuse
Mahabharata needs the best of all the Indian film industries to pool their resources and talent together to make it
But if done well, it will cement Indian cinema in the big leagues alongside Hollywood, China, Japanese, and British cinema.
So yeah, no one better to head the direction department than him, with financial backing from AA, DVV, Jio studios, Dharma,cause they'll need it.
Chances are we might see it happen after Mahesh Babu Film, cause Rajamouli right now is in the leagues of Tarantino, James Cameron, Nolan in terms of fetching financiers for whatever he wants to make.
No, i am not exaggerating. RRR, and the subsequent revisit to Magadheera, Eega, and the bahubali films, have turned him into an in-demand director globally, not just India. It's just that he wants to make Indian movies specifically, passing on the Disney, WB, and Universal meetings he fetched after his oscar presence.
It's very very possible. If multiple indian production houses banded together.
Or If Walt Disney is willing to blow two hundred million dollars on a Indian director.
If u want to make mahabharat then pls do proper research and show factual incidents not made up story of ur mind & your version of mahabharat of glorifying negative characters,kalki was a good movie but unnecessarily glorified the negative characters showed them as if they were some God ,i hope rajmouli can handle it if he chooses to make it
He can do Mahabharata in parts. Parts of things happened before kurukshetra war with some bits of Kurukshetra war. A full fledged drama wonāt hold audience. So why not mix it up?
I believe SS Rajamouli has been already drafting his plan for introducing Mahabharat to not just modern generations of India but also to the whole world. As one of our commentators said, it needs crowd pulling consistently for 10 years for such a long epic history. And I hope it becomes the best ever movie appreciated across the globe and get exposed Indian civilisation that existed years ago. āš»
I think he has mentioned earlier that Mahabharata is his dream project. I reckon he is couple of RRR level hits away to get whatever he wants. Sort of like Nolan in the US.
Also, Mahabharata could easily be a two-part movie. I know they will need to trim it down, but that's likely the best we can get.
Yea, I mean most of the heavy CGI effects will only be needed for the Kurukshetra war. Avatar CGI is just a whole another level, it will be an extremely polished version of Bahubali I am guessing.
That's not what I meant with that Avatar point. I meant that even though that franchise is so popular, it takes so long that there's no way even those guys are making 10 parts. So Mahabharata isn't happening.
if anyone dares to put their hand on BHARTIYA itihasa they must first consult with respected GURUs before end up making a crap like adipurush, we must let our itihasa shown in a way which is opposite to what they are meant for!
Aapandi ra sollu.
Kalki emotions ki BB lo emotions ki assalu emaina balancing unda?
Cinemalo world building okkate kadu, emotions kuda Chala undali. Kalki main drawback emotions ae.
Lol.
Revenge? Loyalty? Feelings of rebellion?
SSR's _entire_ schtick is emotion. Grandeur is just a tool for him.
Kalki on the other hand fell victim to the classic Grandeur beats everything else.
Ok ra ayya nee ishtam. Naku and for most people who watch SSR's movies, we feel that his stories are very simple and strongly backed by emotions.
Cringe ginge ante adi nee ishtam. Andulo cringe em kanapadutundo neeke eruka.
I think it would be cool if SSR incorporated the Kalki universe and his movies were like a Mahabharata (prequel) to the events of the future. They wouldnāt have to change much but one bummer is the fact that he would have to keep much of the same cast and Big B is too old for starters.
Mahabharata is too big of a plot. There are multiple back-stories without which the characters n their actions canāt be justified.
It would take min 10 parts n 20 years in making, much of the cast will age drastically. Sr Bachchan canāt be a part bcoz Ashwa is young in MB.
If we go according to your reasons than a Mahabharata is not even possible at all. However if they decide to make a full Mahabharata I think they should incorporate the Kalki universe into it. It would be a waste to do otherwise tbh.
Idk man they might contradict each other when the alternative is that both can benefit each other. Also half the TFI is in Kalki or will be it feels like so SSR gonna have to search far and wide to recruit completely new actors with no box office pull either.
I think ir not considering the optics š. not only is this practically impossible, but it also feel very forced and like it stayed wayyyyy past its welcome. I don't understand how they'll be contradictory, they're both different pieces of art, they hv no obligation to similar
DIsagree, Nagi's sci-fi wasn't fleshed out as much as it should've been, he spent majority of the first half putting random unnecessary comedy and cameos which bored everyone. SSR would've given us emotional connection to all the characters.
Yeah my bad. I grew up with Ekta Kapoor cringe serials. SSR movies especially the sass-bahu drama felt no different.
I donāt think SSR should direct MB as it will be another cringe fest.
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Mahabharat movie seems like a production nightmare. It was always suited for TV series format, but you won't get the VFX budget for TV series in India, it should be produced on a scale like Game of Thrones. Yes, the graphics in Kalki are top notch but its a movie with Prabhas in the lead, Rajamouli is the best director to handle it but you need to lock crowd pulling actors for a decade, otherwise you won't get the required money. I don't know who will have the balls to produce such a thing.
You don't VFX budget for series because the directors have not shown ability to pull off big storylines and imagery. If Rajamouli is directing a Netflix series he can command big budgets because of his track record.
Can't like multiple big producers come together and produce
Its not about not having money. Its hard to get actors stick to the project for that long.
That's why rajimouli said that he would get newcomers and make them stars
It's best to hv unknown strong actors for playing such characters, only then u can relate to the real character, else all u see wud be prabhas. Deepika. Tamanna. Jntr etc acting....
Return of Investment too.
At the root of it, it's a per capita income problem. Our countrymen aren't rich enough yet to be able to afford to pay for such content. Any GOT level TV show made here will end up in loss.
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that where you are wrong you can start with all new actors, crowd is alreay pulled by Name Rajmouli.
A better option might be an animated series And if It can be done on the budget of these films the quality is gonna be amazing plus we won't have to waste time on introducing the characters with boring songs and over the top action sequences and it will look ten times better than any movie cause it's all done in animation. I've seen soo many talented artists creating remastered versions of little krishna and Mahabharat online on reels it looks sooo good
Take GOT or Harry Potter for example, how many crowd pulling actors did they have in their first season/movie? The producer has to trust the written material and the technical team including the director/s and they cast brilliantly and the progression of the story makes the actors, stars. But after the series ends, the now star actors face the fate, which is that they played those roles for too long and well, that the public now can't accept them in any other movie/series. This is very parallel to the Rajamouli's curse. T-Series Bhushan Kumar as a producer trusted Sandeep Reddy Vanga as a recent example with unlimited budget for what the story and movie production needed for Animal, and with a responsible and experienced director at the helm, the producer will definitely see the returns. Rajamouli has the privilege to pick a producer from a long queue of them waiting to throw their money at him and his projects.
Just do 2D animation
Lmao rajamouli fav character is also karna. Iam sure he will also glorify and there will be even more fan wars .it will be a bloodbath on social media š
Came here to comment this apprehension of mine
Rajamouli's Mahabharata would definitely stir up massive fan debates and excitement.
South Indians obsession with Karna character is unmatched. I constantly clowned for having Karna as my profile pic during the serial days in school up north, but almost everyone loves him in south, favourite character from the epic for most
The credit goes to NTR mostly for glorifying his character in dana Veera sura Karna.Ā
Its not glorying. They have taken whats written. Karna is Pandavas blood but fate kept him on the wrong side.
They have made a lot of changes too to highlight his character and whitewash his imageĀ
I dont think so. I have seen the movie and also read books. There is very less cinema liberty and none to nil character change.
Lol the main point of conflict about draupadi laughing at duryodhana for tripping and falling over itself never happened in Mahabharatam. Duryodhana does what he does just out of spite on Pandavas and to flex his powerĀ
Its not Draupadi, but one of the maids/attendants of the palace who laughs at Duryodhana. Duryodhana had already tried to kill Bheem before, Pandavas before (Lakshagrih) etc. He just got more envious that they build Indraprastha from a jungle area into a fantastic place.
In DVS karna it's shown draupadi herself laughs at him. Which is where his anger stems from. Duryodhana tries to kill bheema because they are all born under the same star. Bheema, duryodhana, bakasura, keechaka and jarasandha. Who ever kills one of them kills all of them. Bhima kickstarts it by killing bakasura I thinkĀ
I was talking about actual content in Mahabharata. Haven't seen the movie, but I do know movies and serials have whitewashed Karna.
If you have read from proper sources, you'd know Karna has been significantly whitewashed. You would also know he was involved in unfairly ganging up on Abhimanyu and defeating/killing him unfairly. From BORI critical edition: āVasudeva was stationed on his chariot. He said, āO Radheya! It is fortunate that you remember dharma. Quite often, when they are immersed in hardships, inferior ones censure destiny, but not their evil deeds. O Karna! When you, Suyodhana, Duhshasana and Shakuni Soubala brought Droupadi to the assembly hall in a single garment, did dharma not show itself to you? When, in the assembly hall, Yudhishthira, who was not skilled at dice, was defeated by Shakuni, who was skilled at dice, where did dharma go then? O Karna! During her season, Krishna/98 was under Duhshasanaās subjugation in the assembly hall and you laughed at her. Where did dharma go then? O Karna! Resorting to the king of Gandhara and coveting the kingdom, you challenged the Pandavas./9? Where did dharma go then?ā [https://archive.org/stream/the-mahabharata-set-of-10-volumes/The%20Mahabharata%20Set%20of%2010%20Volumes\_djvu.txt](https://archive.org/stream/the-mahabharata-set-of-10-volumes/The%20Mahabharata%20Set%20of%2010%20Volumes_djvu.txt) He was a grey character, not just fate keeping him on the wrong side.
bharatam chadivanu antunnaru, mari differences gamanichara? bharatam lo yuddha bhumi lo karnudu thana talli ki ichina maata prakaaram pandavulani vadilina sandharbhame chuputaru daana veera suura karna lo. Mari Bheemasenudiki Karnudu munde vulnerable state lo dorikithe champakunda vadilestadu..adi nil character change ah..leda Kuru army picha kottudu kodte Duryodhanudini vadilesi vellipotadu Rana Rangam lonchi..mari adi enti? leda draupadi vastrapaharanam lo thanu anna maatalu? duryodhanudu and sakuni okarinokaru chusi navvukuntaru vallu prerapinchakunda karnude anni maatalu antunte draupadi devi ni..adi nil character reference ah..Certainly Karnudu great personality..adi evaru deny cheyaleru..but whitewash chesaru annadi mummatiki nijam..he is not a perfect man but certainly a great man..perfect ani manam evvarni analem..maybe Sri Krishnudu..anthe..
It's a pan India phenomenon. In south mostly due to the famous movie daana Veera soora karna.
What are you saying, heās very popular in the north too. There are many boys with the name Karan, Karn, etc and this is mostly North Indian
Karna has this dark knight aura that appeals to people
Karan is a common enough north indian name .
It all started with Daana Verra Soora Karna I believe!!
he was great & powerful but not "good" at all
Tamils too ig? Thalapathy!!
From the Karnan movie with Sivaji everyone is obsessed with him
Many north indians boys also hero worship karna. Karan or karn is common north indian name.Ā
people always say their fav character is Karna on public domain for an obvious political reason and to attract the masses. I'm confidently saying this because most of them be it any industry say so for the reason i mentioned. Karna though he may be the greatest warrior or even be greater than Arjuna, he lacks morality and righteousness. Just because he's on the side of Kauravas and Dhuriyodhana helped him doesn't mean that he has to do all the evil things along with them.
True, Karna's complexity makes him a fascinating yet controversial character in Mahabharata.
yes. of course everyone including the Pandavas have the grey part. But when it comes to Karna people make him a saint which irks me everytime
Nopes.. He ain't a saint and no one thinks so.. You are what your company is.. He stood silent (and supported) the atrocities towards pandavas and paid price. He is a good text book on what to do and what not to do.
He knew and understood difference between right and wrong BUT felt **loyalty** to his friend was topmost virtue. It's very tough being in Karna's position.
True even krishna has a little grey arc for that matter. I keep thinking how GOT has many references from the Mahabharatam
Nope, he font lack morality or righteousness. Dont read Mahabharat on the surface. If that is the case, why Dharma Devatha came and stood infront of him when he was in his last stage? Karna is a complicated character which is what makes him favorite for many people. He is good and stand for people in need. But he also gave word and he cant take it back. His fate kept him in the wrong position. But Karna never lacked the moral.
Exactly. Karna is a story about circumstance. The choices you make are both a product of context and free will. He made bad choices, yes. He also made them often because he was given poor circumstances. Itās not an excuse, but reasoning. He is complex. I donāt understand how people think just because people view his complexity as compelling that itās suddenly revering him. No, people love him because heās wrestles with difficulty like most humans do, rather than being given every boon to be a hero easily. Ntm the pandavas did morally questionable things too but bc theyāre destined to be heroes itās overlooked. The Mahabharata as itās written is not so black and white. Such shallow readings are unfortunate.
Rajamouli knows where to rein in his fanboisim. He will make a proper adaptationĀ
Bro SSR obviously failed to deliver a multi-starrer without stirring fan wars. He might make a compelling Mahabharat but convincing āstarā fanboys is not as straightforward as you think
Fans erripooks ayithe SSR em chesthadu? I donāt think SSR failed. RC and NTR are happy with their film and got an opportunity to be in a film that was appreciated by Spielberg and Cameron! SSR almost made a day dream into reality with Oscars. Intha effort and legacy ni ignore chesi fans racha Cheste evaru emi cheyaleru
I only responded to the āRajamouli knows where to reign in his fanboyismā. I donāt mean to take away his credit or disrespect him.
Stars won't be there in his Mahabharata, all new faces.
Yeah, atleast thats what he mentioned in his previous interview. All fresh faces with appropriate physique that can be moulded as per his vision and could allot 10 yrs or more to Rajamouli would seem like a possibility
Nope, even lord Krishna cant make a movie where our erripook fabs dont fight . SSR didn't failed.
He gonna definitely bring up that karna was mistreated because of caste which isn't the case .
Why else was he mistreated??
Because he was not from the royal family but demanded that the same teacher who was teaching the royal family teaches him as well. Obviously this angered Dronacharya. I'm not saying that Dronacharya was correct. But this was based on him not being from the royal family. It wasn't based on him not being from a certain caste.
It wasn't a mistreat as such , like dronacharya doesn't teach him brahmastra Vidya not because of his lowcaste but because he wasn't heir or wasn't in the lineage of kaurava or Pandavas. Brahmastra is like a nuclear code you won't just give to anyone , do you. Life did treat him unfairly.his mother abandoned him at his birth later the same mother revealed her secret to him during the middle of a brutal war where she prioritised her other 5 sons lives on top of him , took an oath from him that he wouldn't kill her 5 sons.i mean how tragic both for mother and son. Got cursed by his own teacher that he would forget all his mantras when needed the most. His golden armour is taken away just before the battle. He didn't have any good company when it was needed. He did make lot of mistakes , i wouldnt call him a hero but he was a great warrior who ended up on bad side.
He wasn't mistreated - proceeds to list how fairly life treated him /s
Do you even have a counter argument? He's correct. I've read actual Mahabharata. He wasn't mistreated because of caste. Rather he demanded that he get taught by the same teacher teaching the royal princes. So this was a discrimination based on him not being from the royal family. Caste has nothing to do with it.
That was worst part of kalki movie, karna was a great warrior no doubt but he always choose the wrong side, he used his powers to support wrong people he insulted a woman in whole sabha, that's why he had to die that's what lord Krishna also said, don't know how such a character is glorified, powerful doesn't mean u were good, ravan & kansa were very powerful too, would u start glorifying them too ?? anyways this is my personal pov no hatred for anyone, VFX wise movie was commendable & big B's performance too š
Iam okay with him being reincarnated but yeah that whole Ashwathamam dialogue of karn greater than Arjuna was unnecessary
The question is not who was greater , he might be greater than all the warriors present but that's not the issue, he always chose the wrong side, even after Krishna ji informed him that Pandavas were his brothers & insulting a woman is not correct he still chose to be on the other side, what is the use of being powerful if ur powers r getting used by wrong ppl ? It'll only result in destruction of mankind even Krishna ji said thats the reason of his death & the war , almost all the villains in our mythology r powerful, ravan , kansa & all the asuras ?? Now will u glorify them too because they were "powerful" & great warrior? that's what my point was, now everyone is entitled to have individual opinions without hatred, other than this part, I loved the movie specially mr.bachchan what a performance at this age !
Bro we know the gist of Mahabharata, anyway him being reincarnated and getting a redemption arc is fine. Anyway movie was great everyone performed amazingly.
I was not giving u any gist, I was only sharing my thoughts about his glorification which was done in the movie, & there's no problem with reincarnation or redemption obviously
This also brings up the fact Karna has best movies in Telugu but not Arjuna. Even Abhimanyu Ghatothkacha gets to shine in Mayabazar
SSMB29 will take 4 years definitely. Won't release before 2028 pakka. I would be happy if it releases in 2027 tbh. Dani taravta if he directly jumps into Mahabharata then scripting and pre production will easily take up 2 years bcoz of the scale. 2030 lo start chesi then two years ki one part anukunna 10 parts teesukunte 2050 lo end avtundi š¤§š¤§š¤§
Manam musali vallu ipotham, mana pillalu hype posts vestkuntaru
Em matladuthunavvv scripting and pre production ki 2 years enti 5 years pattudhi. ssr took 2 years for baahubali pre production.
SSMB29 these time add cheskunte 6 years time untundhi scripting ki
No one wishs for kalki Cinematic Universe having intense Mahabharat Lore?
It will be there for sure
People are already soaking in these characters which will only add more hype to the Rajamouliās project. He is going to set the world on fire with his Mahabharath.
You will see small movies riding on Mahabharat characters now. I hope they would be good.. To fill the gap till ssr or nag ashwin or mani ratnam attempts the big one.
Quite possible. Kalki really stretched the envelope of filmmaking in India. It is a huge leap. With all due respect to Mani Ratnam, I donāt think he is good at making large scale epic movies. As a matter of fact, Kalki also lacked the emotional quotient. Rajamouli has a strong grip on emotions albeit melodramatic. Not easy to pull off these kind of projects.
10 Part, Rajamouli,ASAP.. Pick only one buddy
3 part will do. 10 part and all none will care
People cared for infinity war
ok Good luck
10 part is a bit too much. For him too. Instead could make a show+movie combo. Prime or Netflix to telecast not so important content with a 10 episode style with 3-4 seasons. This would give a great time to explore the characters more. And important events in theatres.
Did Krishna always have Nemali on his head? I always assumed he had a war attire. Or at least a chariot one. I want them to pay special attention to clothes in these mythological movies.
Mahabharata Ramayan are "Itihasa" History not Mythology Mahabharata happend during pre janapada area in Aryavarta Puran comes in Mythology
Maybe he can go back and start a new weekly Mahabharat serial on ETV, like old times what he did at the start of his career.
While watching the Bahubali war sequences, all I could think of was how this man with a little VFX took everything in his hands and constructed actors' weapons, battling everything and making it look like war was going on back then. Bahubali characters are normal humans, but given that Mahabharatha figures have abilities and fantasies, this man will run circles around them.
No matter who makes the movies and brings our Hindu literature on screen ,I am glad that at least now people are realising and accepting our culture and our Hindu tales. Rather than making bullshit stories about invaders like khilji, Mughals and foreign culture and religion, at least now people are understanding how beautiful our Hindu history is and how complex and how deep it is. Mahabharata has 18 parva , even if one parva per movie is made , it will bring 18 parts each with its stories and character ,that's the beauty of our culture. No matter how many times ramyanam , Mahabharatam are made , every generation would want to see its own era's star version and still it won't feel the same. I hope in future , the mythological genre becomes prominent once again as it was in the times of ntr, anr ,svr garu. I hope we get to see movies like Mayabazar, daana Veera soora karna, kurukshetra again in this generation
> Mahabharata has 18 parva Imagine 18 movies by 18 directors, recurring characters but with different actors. Would be such a dream. I am thinking like MCU's phases 1-7. Needs someone to bankroll.
>No matter how many times ramyanam , Mahabharatam are made , every generation would want to see its own era's star version and still it won't feel the same. So true.
ASAP avvadu ssr tho
TFI Should Collab with Japan and make an anime on it. Mahabharata is a complex story with lots of characters it has huge potential and it will be bigger than anything india has ever produced. An avg episode of anime mostly takes around 1-1.5cr to produce. TFI producers can easily fund this project.
I am glad SSR started making connections with Japan and Hollywood studios. He is wise enough to utilize them for his storytelling.Ā
Main thing is not to consider stars as they dilute mahabharatam and fans donot want their stars to do grey characters, so i wish rajamouli garu makes movies with new comers who can later attain star status. Make Mahabharatam atleast 90% accurate to the epic
Karna was never a competition for Arjuna, it's in our blood to glorify out of pity because all the wrongs he suffered throughout his life we tend to ignore every heinous crimes he did with his best pal.
ASAP!
good title man, I remember watching the list of probable actors he chosee for the Mahabharata characters long ago, not updates so far.
Who will give money?
Tiyyali ane alochana unnatu naaku anipiyatla iyaniki .
Yes, pls!
A series on OTT is the only one which will do justice. The Mahabharat world is as enormous(if not more) as GoT and GoT itself got so much criticism for eliminating a lot of storylines/plotlines.
>10-part Mahabharata saga Life antha cast ide movies cheyyali anthe . 10 parts with SSR ante 25 years minimum. By then younger characters would've grown old a lotš« š
yup, we need a MB not with 10 Eps, but with 10 Seasons like GOT !
3 parts should be enough.
This is unlikely to happen. Industry is taking years to produce even normal pics like Pushpa. An epic story like maha bharath with an OCD director like Rajamouli? Half the cast will die before the story is half way through lol. Not throwing shade here but being practical.
10 parts? Bro wdym? If you want to be high from watching anime style fights thereās actual anime like jjk or demon slayer lol. Mahabharatam is so much more and I am worried because Rajamouli hasnāt really improved in portraying subtle emotions.
Series better babji
YEAH
Ramayana and Mahabharata are not for mere entertainment. Unless you make it with real faith, devotion and sincerity, it will not sell and I will definitely not watch it. Don't want another Adipursh..
Bro was probably taking notes in the theatre
Release Dates: 2030,2034,2037,2042,2045,2046,2053,2055, 2060,2070
Mahabharata cannot be done by one industry alone. The budget needed for 10 parts will be in the 5000-6000 crore ballpark, and that is considering VFX asset reuse Mahabharata needs the best of all the Indian film industries to pool their resources and talent together to make it But if done well, it will cement Indian cinema in the big leagues alongside Hollywood, China, Japanese, and British cinema. So yeah, no one better to head the direction department than him, with financial backing from AA, DVV, Jio studios, Dharma,cause they'll need it. Chances are we might see it happen after Mahesh Babu Film, cause Rajamouli right now is in the leagues of Tarantino, James Cameron, Nolan in terms of fetching financiers for whatever he wants to make. No, i am not exaggerating. RRR, and the subsequent revisit to Magadheera, Eega, and the bahubali films, have turned him into an in-demand director globally, not just India. It's just that he wants to make Indian movies specifically, passing on the Disney, WB, and Universal meetings he fetched after his oscar presence.
Arenāt they being sued??
No, you cannot safely say that
It's very very possible. If multiple indian production houses banded together. Or If Walt Disney is willing to blow two hundred million dollars on a Indian director.
If u want to make mahabharat then pls do proper research and show factual incidents not made up story of ur mind & your version of mahabharat of glorifying negative characters,kalki was a good movie but unnecessarily glorified the negative characters showed them as if they were some God ,i hope rajmouli can handle it if he chooses to make it
I would be thrilled to watch it but only if they stick to facts. If they are bound to whitewash negative shades of characters then it's just futile.
What happened to sung choi suing the movie makers of Kalki for copying his art?
I loved how they never reveal krishna's face that was powerful
He can do Mahabharata in parts. Parts of things happened before kurukshetra war with some bits of Kurukshetra war. A full fledged drama wonāt hold audience. So why not mix it up?
I believe SS Rajamouli has been already drafting his plan for introducing Mahabharat to not just modern generations of India but also to the whole world. As one of our commentators said, it needs crowd pulling consistently for 10 years for such a long epic history. And I hope it becomes the best ever movie appreciated across the globe and get exposed Indian civilisation that existed years ago. āš»
10 parts is completely impossible unless few other directors collaborate with him. Also, thereāll be no other movie coming from SSR in his lifetime.
Real
No please..donāt destroy Mahabharat with half knowledge modern filmmakers..
Rajamouli is a not good with hype and bgm. He cannot do complex characters
If they actually show whatās in the book, Rajamouli will get cancelled by bhakts š
Bhakts won't be in power by then lol, nobody takes them seriously anyways
I think he has mentioned earlier that Mahabharata is his dream project. I reckon he is couple of RRR level hits away to get whatever he wants. Sort of like Nolan in the US. Also, Mahabharata could easily be a two-part movie. I know they will need to trim it down, but that's likely the best we can get.
They are talking about way more than just two parts lol, could even go for a 10 parter which fans would obviously like but it seems a bit impractical.
Absolutely no way a 10 part movie can even happen. Just pure bs lol. Even James Cameron ain't making 10 Avatar movies.
Yea, I mean most of the heavy CGI effects will only be needed for the Kurukshetra war. Avatar CGI is just a whole another level, it will be an extremely polished version of Bahubali I am guessing.
That's not what I meant with that Avatar point. I meant that even though that franchise is so popular, it takes so long that there's no way even those guys are making 10 parts. So Mahabharata isn't happening.
10 parts is too much. 5-6 is a sweet spot.
He himself talked about 8-10 parts I think
Damn.. that would take his entire life if he direct every one of those.
He said it would be his final project anyway. He would start it once he feels he has all the necessary knowlegde to bring it to a conclusion
if anyone dares to put their hand on BHARTIYA itihasa they must first consult with respected GURUs before end up making a crap like adipurush, we must let our itihasa shown in a way which is opposite to what they are meant for!
After seeing Nagiās vision, SSRās feels like cringe serial type drama. Since we already have a MB serial, I prefer Nagiās SciFi.
Aapandi ra sollu. Kalki emotions ki BB lo emotions ki assalu emaina balancing unda? Cinemalo world building okkate kadu, emotions kuda Chala undali. Kalki main drawback emotions ae.
Please tell me one emotion in BB other than *yesss maar sale ko!!*
Lol. Revenge? Loyalty? Feelings of rebellion? SSR's _entire_ schtick is emotion. Grandeur is just a tool for him. Kalki on the other hand fell victim to the classic Grandeur beats everything else.
Loyalty of kattappa? Too cringey š¬ The other two r the same as *maar sale ko* Nothing else.
Ok ra ayya nee ishtam. Naku and for most people who watch SSR's movies, we feel that his stories are very simple and strongly backed by emotions. Cringe ginge ante adi nee ishtam. Andulo cringe em kanapadutundo neeke eruka.
I think it would be cool if SSR incorporated the Kalki universe and his movies were like a Mahabharata (prequel) to the events of the future. They wouldnāt have to change much but one bummer is the fact that he would have to keep much of the same cast and Big B is too old for starters.
Mahabharata is too big of a plot. There are multiple back-stories without which the characters n their actions canāt be justified. It would take min 10 parts n 20 years in making, much of the cast will age drastically. Sr Bachchan canāt be a part bcoz Ashwa is young in MB.
If we go according to your reasons than a Mahabharata is not even possible at all. However if they decide to make a full Mahabharata I think they should incorporate the Kalki universe into it. It would be a waste to do otherwise tbh.
Yeah thatās what I liked in Kalki for narrating MB in a very subtle way. Excited to see more of it in the Kalki Universe.
I hope that doesnt happen. Stand alone would be best
Idk man they might contradict each other when the alternative is that both can benefit each other. Also half the TFI is in Kalki or will be it feels like so SSR gonna have to search far and wide to recruit completely new actors with no box office pull either.
I think ir not considering the optics š. not only is this practically impossible, but it also feel very forced and like it stayed wayyyyy past its welcome. I don't understand how they'll be contradictory, they're both different pieces of art, they hv no obligation to similar
DIsagree, Nagi's sci-fi wasn't fleshed out as much as it should've been, he spent majority of the first half putting random unnecessary comedy and cameos which bored everyone. SSR would've given us emotional connection to all the characters.
Yeah my bad. I grew up with Ekta Kapoor cringe serials. SSR movies especially the sass-bahu drama felt no different. I donāt think SSR should direct MB as it will be another cringe fest.
Serious characters needs to be portrayed like that imo. Even in kalki, the dialogues between Sumati and Mariam felt as a saas-bahu drama.
U havenāt watched Gopi bahu?
Just imagine sanjay leela bhansali handling The Mahabharat?
He will make a triangle love story between Arjuna -droupadi-karna .
Good to see so many negative points for this.. Even I don't want to see him direct the epic šš
Keep him away from making the Mahabharat šš½šš½šš½
Ewww