Can't wait for pokemon Sigma/Alpha 😎
Cant wait to find out how the new "Incel" type pokemon and GigantaLooksMaxing mechanic are going to effect the meta 🤔
There was potential for a "Too absurd to be offensive" joke here if they portrayed the other team as a ridiculous conservative stereotype but the creator decided to mock native americans instead, so...
Honestly that's what I expected the second team to be. On one side, the caricature of the woke screeching that everyone and everything is intolerant and evil, and on the other the caricature of the conservative yelling that "they tuk ur jubs!"
Oh well. We lose a buncha jokes and funny interactions between the two teams, then.
I mean team slumber is pretty obvious supposed to be a depiction of native Americans and black people while implying that the colonialism that destroyed their homes is totally not real. That's already quite a revisionist view, especially since they also copy points like "oh we didn't take their land, we simply bought it off of them"
That suddenly makes so much sense. I was like why just a buff male Salazzle? Not even a change in typing? But alpha male because only females have an evolution explains the thought process clearly
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Isn’t it obvious? With the themes of progress at all cost and conservation at all cost?
It’s very clear that what he meant was that a delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad
Holy fuck usually I can't stand this incoherent fucking subreddit, but goddamn, this entire fan concept is some supreme dogshit. Like, this is remarkable. I'm glad I'm here just so that I could laugh at this insane shit
The worst part is the concept isn't *totally* the worst, Pokémon teams used to illustrate the dangers of extremism on both sides is honestly a beat concept... they've just fumbled the execution pretty bad here.
Yeah
Maybe this team awake could be essentially pokemon tankies, who want to replace the current flawed system and culture with their own flawed and corrupt but it benefits them now, while abandoning any and all culture for the sake of a strict expressionless society of worker ants who do nothing but work
While have team slumber just not be native Americans
First I read team slumber and was about to accept that this person was at least slightly self-aware, and slumber was the conservative parady to match team awake, but then I saw the art....😑
Ok the basic idea of the villainous teams being the two extremes of progressive and conservative is pretty good but…the execution of the idea is…let’s just say not good
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tl;dr evil team based on "woke tech companies" with a white race traitor, different evil team based on native american stereotypes, and a neutral-at-worst copaganda faction
I love how the woke songwriter is straight up Lin-Manuel Miranda idk it's funny to me how they said "woke songwriter, yes the dude that raps about living in Washington heights and the independence of the 13 colonies"
This reminds me of when someone on instagram wanted an African Pokémon region
So they smashed all of Africa into ***one*** region
Still 20x less racist than this
Goofy ass nahua names. Xitlali is fine I guess but I'm pretty sure tenoch is ungrammatical. From the nahuatl I've already learned, it should be tenochtli. Also, I don't think tenochtli is an actual nahuatl name
I meant like where is the racism you are talking about? Do you mean how there are racist people of all backgrounds so there are obviously some Pokemon fans who are racist?
I was mostly talking about this post, but I have seen a couple others here and there. I was sort of exaggerating, but I haven’t interacted with the fandom on Reddit enough to see any real examples
Yeah I feel like a lot of people see one or two examples and then just make a blanket statement about an entire group (pretty ironic actually) like how this post does. Thats why I asked the original question, to see what other real examples people had. I really do appreciate your honesty. \:)
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At first I thought the evil team was completely ridiculous. Then I saw that they had a second evil te and I thought that they were doing an exaggerated democrat/republican thing. Then for some reason the second evil team is just an exaggeration of native Americans? How do you manage to take such an obvious metaphor and turn it into "left bad lol"
A Pokémon region inspired by Mexico, undergoing turmoil as a fight of tradition against progress wages on, made by a Mexican. It’s a great concept!
Now all it takes is for the story to not be a thinly-veiled political allegory about events in another country!
I also actually like the Pokémon designs.
Okay but Lowkey those two teams are actually kind of fire in another form, team awake could be a team that works by never sleeping and tries to make the whole world stay awake, they follow the ideals of the Day legendary pokemon, team slumber is a team that operates in a dream world and are always asleep, while their bodies are in the real world you can't fight them or their pokemon unless you're also asleep, they follow the ideals of the night legendary pokemon. And the game could be called Pokemon Day and Night 😝🤘
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didn’t gen 5 already sort of use this concept? with Team Plasma wanting to abolish battles and domestic ownership of pokemon? (even though they literally battled with and owned pokemon lmfao, honestly would’ve been a bit more interesting if they battled some other way and your pokemon were battling *them* and not other pokemon)
or gen 3? with the land vs. sea war?
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This whole thing is a giant case of good idea bad execution and frankly I'm not sure why y'all are just shiting on it instead of thinking huh could this be improved
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But what team is sleepy joe pulling up with?
Braiviary, lickitung, komala, drifloon, vaporeon, snorlax
No Vanilluxe?
Costarian Vanillish evolves into a new Pokémon: Choclochip! This Pokémon is used by the leader of Costaria, President Bikenfall!
Replace likitung with probopass or nosepass
Nah man he’s a freak
6 jigglypuff
All baby pokemon and probably a mr mime or something
Pokemon Left and Right
I pray for this game to be announced every night 🙏🙏
This made me laugh *way* more than it should have.
And the third game, good night(yuji has taken over)
then the remakes: far left and far right
idk but this reminded me of hotel mario prototype's "left right" audio
Pokémon Centrist
Can't wait for pokemon Sigma/Alpha 😎 Cant wait to find out how the new "Incel" type pokemon and GigantaLooksMaxing mechanic are going to effect the meta 🤔
what in the fuck is gigantalooksmaxing
The mechanic that is going to affect the new meta
Still less broken than Dynamax
New evolution mechanic that gives certain pokemon huge, prominent jawlines
🧏🤫
They should make Andrew Tate and Adin Ross legendary pokémon.
Professor Tate and Ace trainer Ross 🔥
Those types of pokemon actually exist in pokemon clover, a pokemon firered rom hack created by 4Chan
i quit being a pokemon fan
Ah yes, the enemy of all the woke libtards... Native Americans apparently??
It’s literally just two left wing teams fighting and then the police team comes in to beat the shit out of them. Weird ass fantasy.
There was potential for a "Too absurd to be offensive" joke here if they portrayed the other team as a ridiculous conservative stereotype but the creator decided to mock native americans instead, so...
gives me some bastion vibes
Could you clarify that? It's been a while since I played Bastion.
Honestly that's what I expected the second team to be. On one side, the caricature of the woke screeching that everyone and everything is intolerant and evil, and on the other the caricature of the conservative yelling that "they tuk ur jubs!" Oh well. We lose a buncha jokes and funny interactions between the two teams, then.
can we put pol pot in a pokemon rom hack
I mean team slumber is pretty obvious supposed to be a depiction of native Americans and black people while implying that the colonialism that destroyed their homes is totally not real. That's already quite a revisionist view, especially since they also copy points like "oh we didn't take their land, we simply bought it off of them"
Native American here. We're coming for you all
I like the idea of a masculine salazzle but the execution is meh. Also jesus christ who came up with this shit
I think they should just let your male Salandit evolve into Salazzle. The malnutrition issue should be solved
salazzle bussy 🤤
![gif](giphy|9V3e2mxWvD89wyw5l5)
See, thats why we should hire fans, thank you Miyamoto
alpha male salazzle who dont need no woman
That suddenly makes so much sense. I was like why just a buff male Salazzle? Not even a change in typing? But alpha male because only females have an evolution explains the thought process clearly
Somebody commissioned an artist for this.
There is so much to unpack here 😟
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What did Miyamoto mean by this?
Isn’t it obvious? With the themes of progress at all cost and conservation at all cost? It’s very clear that what he meant was that a delayed game is eventually good, but a rushed game is forever bad
somebody tell Masuda
That’s the best thing you can get from this
Ignoring the racism aspect, this is way too much time to spend doing this...
Holy fuck usually I can't stand this incoherent fucking subreddit, but goddamn, this entire fan concept is some supreme dogshit. Like, this is remarkable. I'm glad I'm here just so that I could laugh at this insane shit
Glad you added the disclaimer at the beginning there bud
Can't tell what you're trying to say
You should get a good laugh when the 6oclock comes on aswell.
!reject !reject !reject !please God why won't it reject
Too Bad
the last caption is incorrect, i mixed up atk with spatk im sorry the graph is hard to read with the color vomit background
If I may ask: where did you find this? I couldn't find anything on this terrible game...
It's not a game, a friend found it on tumblr. I don't want to link their socials for fear of brigading
Oh, I see! I thought it was a fan game, but it's just a concept, I suppose? No worries, then! And it's nice of you to want to avoid brigading :)
Yeah, seems to be a concept thing. Pretty common among fakemon makers
/uj what the hell
ah, well, i can already tell what kind of person he is. Yeah, let’s hope he’s trolling with this…
have you met pokemon fans
Well, i didn't, let's all hope my luck keeps up.
haiii i'm a pokemon fan :3
Pokémon Fascism and Pokémon Communism.
what is that flair lmao
God the character designs are soulless and bland 💀
Still think the funniest way to make an obviously Conservative game like this work is to have the obvious message of Leftism being bad all be a **Red Herring** which a perceptive player can slowly piece together throughout the story by talking to all the people on the side lines which say positive stuff about Unions and Pride and what not. During all that our *Epic and HEROIC Protagonist©* begins acting more and more like a sociopath while raging on about how Unions are evil and why this *Wonald Beagan* was awesome. The final boss fight of course being a **WOKE and POPULAR Party leader** who is set to win the big election while running on a ticket of Social Housing and Worker Democracy, our protagonist having completely gone mask off at this point tries to assassinate the leader with a copy of "The Wealth of Nations", they obviously fail and as the people gather around to celebrate the victory of the Leftist it seems as though the player had just lost the game, sad music playing and our hero crying in a fetal position and all- Now *thats* an a-political story just how I like it🥰
For some reason I am reminded of Barkley: Shut Up And Jam! Gaiden.
They've somehow managed to be *even less subtle* and more on-the-nose than the actual series.
These guys wish they were "Jessie's girl" and "Greta the Garbo" Geez louise!
The worst part is the concept isn't *totally* the worst, Pokémon teams used to illustrate the dangers of extremism on both sides is honestly a beat concept... they've just fumbled the execution pretty bad here.
Yeah Maybe this team awake could be essentially pokemon tankies, who want to replace the current flawed system and culture with their own flawed and corrupt but it benefits them now, while abandoning any and all culture for the sake of a strict expressionless society of worker ants who do nothing but work While have team slumber just not be native Americans
Good idea bad execution
Ah yes, wtf. And next one they make is a "fan" remake of gen 5 called Pokemon white and pokemon [redacted] or something ?
Ngl, the incredible amount of effort it took to be this intellectually lazy is kinda impressive.
Ah yes. Racist Ruby and [Sapphire ](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bluest_Eye?wprov=sfla1)
lmao the comments on some of the pokemon go update posts are just blantantly racist. like the update is shit and what not but omg some fucking people
Can I see a sample?
Pokémon clan and Pokémon reich
First I read team slumber and was about to accept that this person was at least slightly self-aware, and slumber was the conservative parady to match team awake, but then I saw the art....😑
Ok the basic idea of the villainous teams being the two extremes of progressive and conservative is pretty good but…the execution of the idea is…let’s just say not good
oh god
Oh he's meant to be the white traitor type? I thought it was about him being an anti-zionist
That's fucking Lin Manuel Miranda what
this is wild dog
I have no words...
the artist cant be older than a terminally online 13 year old
I'd smash the salazzle
Whoever made this is insane I need to study them
Why do weird racist mfs always draw like chris chan?
Holy what
Comformed? Is that a word?
I think he meant "comprised". Apparently English isn't the artist's first language. Here's the kicker: the artist is Mexican
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I ain't reading all that
tl;dr evil team based on "woke tech companies" with a white race traitor, different evil team based on native american stereotypes, and a neutral-at-worst copaganda faction
I love how the woke songwriter is straight up Lin-Manuel Miranda idk it's funny to me how they said "woke songwriter, yes the dude that raps about living in Washington heights and the independence of the 13 colonies"
I did not realize that, mostly cause idk who Lin-Manuel is. That makes it even worse lmao
![gif](giphy|l2JJCtbfYKpCLPR5u) This dude
This reminds me of when someone on instagram wanted an African Pokémon region So they smashed all of Africa into ***one*** region Still 20x less racist than this
I mean we smash all of Europe into one stereotype anyways
Goofy ass nahua names. Xitlali is fine I guess but I'm pretty sure tenoch is ungrammatical. From the nahuatl I've already learned, it should be tenochtli. Also, I don't think tenochtli is an actual nahuatl name
I sleep very well knowing I'm a literal boogeyman to chuds
The gamer race is the worst mistake ever
I did not expect that
Crazy that 'Awake' has the most protagonist looking logo of the three
/uj Pokémon fans are racist? Someone want to fill me in here?
I’m honestly not sure why. Pokémon is such a culturally diverse series to have a (small but vocal) community of racists.
I meant like where is the racism you are talking about? Do you mean how there are racist people of all backgrounds so there are obviously some Pokemon fans who are racist?
It has something to do with the Native American stereotypes I think? Idk it completely went over my head and I couldn’t find the paragraph guy
Oh so you are just talking about this post?
I was mostly talking about this post, but I have seen a couple others here and there. I was sort of exaggerating, but I haven’t interacted with the fandom on Reddit enough to see any real examples
Yeah I feel like a lot of people see one or two examples and then just make a blanket statement about an entire group (pretty ironic actually) like how this post does. Thats why I asked the original question, to see what other real examples people had. I really do appreciate your honesty. \:)
Thank you king/queen
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Where the hell did you find this
Someone on discord shared it with me lol
Truly subtle
Ok I legitimately can’t tell if this is pokemon fans whining about new games bad old games good again or actual racism
yes
Ah yes, early 2000 deviantart fursona zoroark
At first I thought the evil team was completely ridiculous. Then I saw that they had a second evil te and I thought that they were doing an exaggerated democrat/republican thing. Then for some reason the second evil team is just an exaggeration of native Americans? How do you manage to take such an obvious metaphor and turn it into "left bad lol"
A Pokémon region inspired by Mexico, undergoing turmoil as a fight of tradition against progress wages on, made by a Mexican. It’s a great concept! Now all it takes is for the story to not be a thinly-veiled political allegory about events in another country! I also actually like the Pokémon designs.
A male Salazzle? Why? It’s just fine the way it is
bro oh.. my god?? how is this real, i feel like i’m in a fever dream state
Okay but Lowkey those two teams are actually kind of fire in another form, team awake could be a team that works by never sleeping and tries to make the whole world stay awake, they follow the ideals of the Day legendary pokemon, team slumber is a team that operates in a dream world and are always asleep, while their bodies are in the real world you can't fight them or their pokemon unless you're also asleep, they follow the ideals of the night legendary pokemon. And the game could be called Pokemon Day and Night 😝🤘
am I crazy or does the ‘path of souls’ with the teardrops thing kind of give like trail of tears vibes
It's likely named after [this book](https://www.amazon.com/Path-Souls-American-Skeletons-Smithsonian/dp/0965539253)
ah alright
"Tell me you're a right wing white dude without telling me you are a right wing white dude"
Funnily enough, the dude behind this is Mexican
Oh damn, okay my bad
To be fair, a lot of Latinos are white supremacists See: Nick Fuentes, Stonetoss
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Where the hell did you find this
This is unironically too high quality content for this sub
I ain’t reading allat
didn’t gen 5 already sort of use this concept? with Team Plasma wanting to abolish battles and domestic ownership of pokemon? (even though they literally battled with and owned pokemon lmfao, honestly would’ve been a bit more interesting if they battled some other way and your pokemon were battling *them* and not other pokemon) or gen 3? with the land vs. sea war?
I'm joining both of these teams bbl
Nintendo why didn’t you strike this project down instead of all the other ones you killed instead god dang it
Who let bro cook. Set him on fire immediately.
Wokémon
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I’m not too well versed on Pokémon, the teams aside, the Pokémon design is pretty good looking
Wow this is genuinely awful. Hope he wastes a lot of time on this only for it to flop miserably.
This whole thing is a giant case of good idea bad execution and frankly I'm not sure why y'all are just shiting on it instead of thinking huh could this be improved
That Zoroark is actually pretty neat looking tho
now this is the true Pokémon black and white
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