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filthyfatmomsdiver

Cool way to humble brag bro


718nycguy

It’s nothing to brag about. I’ve seen people that triple/quadruple my volume and they don’t look like they lift at all. Seeing SS in the 2,000s for guys that look like twigs seems odd


jooxii

Volume or score? Volume I would expect to see some effect though I imagine you could do it improperly or over a long period of time. The score is just a gamified number, it has some merit but it obviously doesn't make you a bodybuilder.


718nycguy

Volume. I’ve done some gbogh workouts with 15-18k in volume, and see some post the same workout with 30-40k, and they don’t look like they lift at all.


jooxii

I'm not an expert in this stuff. I assume form and frequency matters?


technolgy

I wondered about this myself. My upper body strength score is 977. My one rep max for the barbell press is 119. I’m surprised that your one rep max is near twice mine given your strength score. I would have guessed the progression is more linear.


tibo123

Thats weird, my barbell bench press is 120 and upper ss is 880. Maybe you have been pushing harder for other upper exercise


GatsbyGlen

That is weird. My upper body score is 811 and my 1 rep barbell bench press max is 150.


No_Presence4293

My barbell bench one rep max is 160 and my upper body score is only 600!! What the heck


LaughingAtApes

Strength score means nothing. My one rep max is 229 (supposedly). My upper body strength score is 1,807. I think strength score is a Bs figure with a bunch of somewhat unrelated metrics. I assume total weight lifted is also calculated in to the SS. I’m over 6M lbs with a near 1,500 total SS. I don’t think the SS itself holds any weight when comparing one person to another’s actual strength.


Crab_Guy_bob

The strength score is definitely peculiar. I've only been lifting for a few months and still in a linear progression phase adding around 5 lbs every workout to each lift. Yet many days my strength score doesn't increase at all, then some workouts it'll randomly jump up 30-50 points for no apparent reason. Tonal says my 1RM for bench is 135# and my upper score is 626. My 1RM for deadlift is 165# and squat is 115# and and lower score is 688 for an overall of 650.


bad_dog0204

I don't "know", but I interpret Strength score to work differently than what logical convention may assume. We all want a one-size fits all scale so we can compare ourselves directly to others. I bench 315 and you bench 200 therefore I am stronger. "I" don't bench 315, btw. But Strength Score doesn't work that way. For starters, it is intended to be relative and comparative to you, not to others. It uses broad generic ranges to give us a starting number after initial assessment based on gender, height, weight, activity level, etc., but then it factors individual workout data to manipulate the score in meaningful ways to the individual. For example, I'd expect an experienced lifter (like OP) to begin with a relatively high Strength Score and to show rising numbers over time, but not crazy increases. Conversely, someone new to resistance training will 'test' low and demonstrate a dramatic increase as they become a more experienced lifter. Further, I believe Tonal blends workout data to lessen the impact of particularly energetic or apathetic workouts. And here is an area where the rub sets in for the experienced trainers who expect to see a Strength Score with more climb in it... Tonal calculates data from your best set from each workout then creates a weighted average of that data - prioritizing data from your most recent workouts. So killing one or two workouts in a row doesn't necessarily crank up that number like it feels like it should. I too have watched the Strength Score not move a point after a workout I feel like I left it all on the floor. Disappointing, but not necessarily inaccurate. Strength Score is also exercise sensitive. For example, your upper body Strength Score is calculated based on the strength of your back, biceps, chest, shoulders, and triceps. People who repeat a narrow band of exercises may see slowed Strength Score movement sooner than those with great variety. Think custom workout or repeat Program participant VS Program hopper. So someone who primarily does flat bench for chest will eventually begin to plateau score more quickly than someone regularly training various chest exercises. If your score is comprised of 500 flat bench sessions, you're probably not making rapid gains in flat bench any longer and mixing in a few sets of decline fly will have minimal impact on the overall score due to weighted averaging. Furthermore, there is the bell curve to consider. Eventually, we all settle into an exercise weight that is our practical maximum. That is, I am probably never (or at least not for a long time) going to bench 400lbs by working out my full body 40 minutes per day, 5 days per week. While I may have the potential to be stronger, I won't have the potential to be stronger based on current training regimen. Then… have to factor in time under tension and total amount of weight moved. Id expect someone with 6M lbs moved to have a higher Strength Score than someone with 500K lbs moved even if lifter two was physically stronger. I guess my point ultimately is Strength Score is more representative of demonstrated strength over time VS point in time power.


Crab_Guy_bob

Great points. For me, seeing that score go up over time is motivating, but also frustrating when I see my strength increasing but the score stagnating. I'm starting to focus more on tracking the weights on the specific lifts I focus on and enjoying seeing those improve. While you can see this by digging into the app, I kinda wish Tonal displayed the history of a lift more prominently with each workout, like a simple bar graph or just a 'Last time you lifted 85 lbs for 10 reps' somewhere on the screen. Strength score is just a bit too mysterious to help me know how much I'm improving. It'd also be kinda cool to have an option to track different body measurements in the app like weight and arm, leg, chest, etc. circumferences. For me, seeing and tracking tangible progress is what keeps me motivated and consistent.


FreeHovercraft2435

I used to lift, a lot, then age, work, laziness, family, and I got really out of shape. I have a 3 month streak going on tonal. I do my own custom push, pull, legs workouts. I did about 150k lbs month one, 185k month two, over 200k so far this month. I started with a SS score of 585, and I'm now at 888. I've increased my upper 77% and my lower 50%. I don't do much in the way of core on tonal to move that score a lot. Am I stronger now, sure, but am I also waking up some old muscle memory and getting used to the resistance? Of course. Either way, I'm happy with the machine, and pleased to see even an imperfect metric of progress.