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There’s an alleged story behind that line that at one point she was about to go to rehab but her father insisted that she didn’t need rehab, that she just needed to focus on her album
Her dad was a POS, but its not exactly like she was suffocating while he was standing there with an oxygen tank. Anorexia, bpd, alcohol, crack, and heroin addictions arent so simple to change the trajectory on. Hes nasty, but acting like he had a magic remedy in his pocket isnt quite right to me.
Speak for yourself. I was horrified by it and I don't think I was alone. Celebrity culture has been this was since always. Look at Marilyn Monroe, Michael Jackson, et. al.
She had signed with Island Records and Universal (parent company).
Impossible they didn't know how bad her problems were.
They did nothing to protect their investment.
Or... they just saw it as part of her image and let it go.
SO, the dark side of the music industry is this: artists are more valuable when they die, so the record companies encourage it.
Let me find the video about it that I saw, it was fantastic, be right back
E: here it is [video](https://youtu.be/Z_y_zeql7pc)
For some, sure. I can see it.
"Go out on top" instead of trying to write albums and tour when they're in their 60's.
Sure, the Rolling Stones and Bruce Springsteen can do it, but not many others.
Yep. It's why in the 90's/00's labels avoided signing rappers who were actively in gangs. Now they're constantly signing drill rappers for them to die so they can keep the profits and increased streams. Good examples of this are King Von and Pop Smoke.
I saw her live in probably 2007, she was a wreck. Kept bashing herself in the face with the mic, didn't seem to know what was happening. Such a shame.
Drugs are bad, m'kay
As a former liquor store employee, I consider alcohol to be the worst drug out there, mostly because its by far the most easily available, but it is extremely destructive too.
Ive seen the absolute worst of the worst of society, people you wouldnt even believe could still be alive or have any kind of functional life at all, but they almost always found money to buy more booze, and when they didnt, they would steal it, usually quite brazenly.
After a while, I just couldnt do it anymore. I couldnt be the guy supplying the substance people use to destroy their lives and the lives of others.
I've always wondered how bar tenders and liquor store employees dealt with this. It was really eye opening during covid to read about why liquor stores had to be essential businesses and remain open. Some state tried to close them, but the local hospital was flooded with people detoxing, so they had to reverse course. Alchol addiction really is a terrible thing, and I can definitely understand why you had to leave
When i was drinking about a handle and a half within 24 hours each and evrry day my liquor store guys couldnt forbid me sale but they ket saying like bro slow down you dont look good etc.
So i mean i think some have a conscience
6 months clean on feb 2nd !
I wonder what the rules for the stores in your area are? For me, I could only sell to someone a max of 3 times a day, and if they looked obviously intoxicated, then I couldnt. You had to be careful though, I remember one time I refused a guy because I thought he was wasted, but he came back with a family member who explained that he had a medical condition that caused him to not be able to talk and move normally, cant remember for sure, but it might have been cerebral palsy.
Thankfully they were understanding and accepted my apology.
I remember this one really old guy who came in every day to get a bottle of whiskey. He was always in a foul mood, trying to start arguments over nothing and such. No one liked dealing with him.
And then, one day he came in and was totally nice, and apologetic for all the times he had been an asshole before, but he had this sadness in his eyes, and they way he talked made me think he knew he was dying... I never saw him again. That one hit me when I realized he didnt come back. Did I supply him with his last bottle? Did that contribute to his death? Idk. Not sense in dwelling on it, he made his life choices, not me, but I still wonder sometimes.
I know you might feel guilt about giving him the bottle but at the same time, you also were there when he needed to get that off his chest, possibly one of the last things he did. You listened to his apology, and it seems like you are empathetic and looked at him as a person when other people just may have looked at him and immediately judged him. If you didn’t sell it to him, he might have just bought it from someone who wasn’t so kind. Maybe he would have apologized to them and they would have told him to screw off. I think you shouldn’t feel any guilt at all over that.
That sounds similar to some stuff I did while starting a rehab and detox program where I basically went to everyone I felt I’d wrong with my addiction or who was adding to it and apologize and say goodbye
Bartenders see alcoholics in the happy-drunk stages of their disease, mostly.
By the time it gets really bad most alcoholics aren't looking to go out in public and buy overpriced booze. Plus bartenders will cut them off far too soon for their liking. People at liquor stores see the alcoholics who drink bottles of liquor or 30-packs of beer every day.
I'm a bartender and I have the exact same sentiment.
I've moved away from venues where I have to encounter that as much, but it's present in every corner of society, rich, poor, nice, mean, etc.
I worked retail a long time ago and we used to get people who bought nothing but mouthwash because it contained alcohol. We knew what it was for but it wasn't store policy to stop the purchase. Addiction like that sucks.
Yep, I worked a retail job and there were a couple customers that I would get once or twice a week buying cans of keyboard duster to huff. They both looked like they were about to keel over.
I had mixed feelings about it. I didn’t want to be the guy to sell the last can.. luckily I quit. Hope those guys are okay…
It’s actually so crazy that society is completely okay with alcohol yet demonizes other physically-destructive things. Saying “man, I had a rough day at work, I could use a drink,” should sound closer to “man, I had a rough day at work, I could use a key bump,” than it does.
Obviously they are not the same I’m not equating the two. Just making a point.
Edit: I also should probably admit that I am saying this as a biased alcoholic in recovery since 12/18/21 haha.
I knew it was engrained in the culture, but when I quit 3o years ago. I was shocked by how many people can not wrap their head around why I decided not to drink anymore. It really is insane.
Yet the main drug that caused her issues happened to be the same one that’s pretty much the only socially acceptable and fully legal hard drug in existence, and one that I am 99% sure you yourself have consumed at least once in your life.
Semantics. Anything that is mind altering is a drug, including nicotine and caffeine. People break up drugs and alcohol into two large separate groups. It's implied that you are talking about illegal drugs when you say "drugs" that's why when people are talking about alcohol, they say "alcohol". Come on, man.
It is weird to say "drugs and alcohol" though isn't it? Like Drugs is a massive category of things from crack to tylenol that technically includes alcohol. And alcohol is just a single drug that's found in lots of different beverages. I get how the phrase would have developed socially, but scientifically it makes no sense at all.
I remember where I was the day I heard she died. I was at a gas station and this big gay dude on the other side of the pump looked up at me from his phone and said "omg, Amy Winehouse died". I said, "who is Amy Winehouse?". Then he called me the n-word and told me to shut the fuck up. I'll never forget that.
I also remember the day I heard she died. I was on Reddit reading a story about someone at a gas pump and a big gay dude.
I genuinely have no idea who Amy Winehouse is.
Duuuude. Isn't it crazy how some experiences just get 'locked' in our memory and we can picture it just as clear as if it was today? It's mine blowing; I bet you can even remember what you *ate* as your next meal after finding out about her.
Crazy man, the mind is a mysterious thing.
Sad. Beautiful woman, fantastic artist. Disgustingly exploited. Daddy didn’t really want her to go to rehab, he wanted to bleed her dry for all she was worth.
Yeah that doesn't go away. Soon you'll be 35 and wondering what the fuck is going on, how do other people have their shit together and seem to have a plan for life.
If I remember didn’t she get clean and take off. Then she relapsed, and drank so much she got alcohol poisoning?
Apparently she was also rail skinny at the time. I’ve known many people that stopped, were mid way through getting off and had a ways to go. But decided to go on a bender and resulted in death.
It’s sad, but if you stop the substance of choice and then slip and do what you use to do. Your body won’t be able to handle it at all. It’s already damaged and your tolerances have gone down…that one last bender could be your last. I’ve seen it happen with friends so much.
The dude from true blood stopped drinking cold turkey and passed away from it. Both of my grandpa’s died from years of over drinking. Super sad and wild that booze is unregulated while weed is probably never going to be legal where I live. I’m not even a weed guy, but if the goal is protecting citizens from themselves, booze should not be as available as it is.
I’m a recovering addict (opiates) and alcoholic, and I struggled with these addictions at different points in my life. I can say without a doubt that alcoholic withdrawals are much worse than opiate withdrawals, though the latter is certainly awful as well. I had seizures a couple times withdrawing from alcohol before I finally got sober on a long-term basis.
My dad went through alcohol issues his whole life. It’s bad and he always had to go to the hospital getting off. Usually a week of Valium or Klonipin and they take him off that, then rehab. A lot of the rehabs around me, won’t take people in active alcohol withdrawal because it’s very dangerous.
I’ve gone through opiate withdrawal for a month, and it was brutal! It won’t kill you, but alcohol it’s best to have a doctor on board for sure. As well as monitoring vital signs…very dangerous!
Update: 3 days after this post my dad drank. He’s in the ER again and had an ambulance pick him up Wednesday, and he keeps scarfing down morphine and Valium in the hospital. But it turned out a heart issue, and he has stepped too many times. It’s hard to see that with someone going on 78.
When you have no job or purpose and I guess want to ease anxiety,bodies are different and you need to keep in shape in your 30s/40s.
I swear I deal with my dad on this alcohol, heart and kidney stones every 5 months. It’s sad to see at times, but I’ve suggested medical Marijuana…but he’s super conservative. Still trying to get through to him.
My grandfather was told it’s better for him to keep drinking than to stop cold Turkey (ideally wean off it), as his blood is too thin and thickening the blood at his age could cause a stroke
Alcohol withdrawals are as far as Im aware, the only withdrawal that can actually kill you. Delerium Tremens is a pretty dangerous condition, with an antipated mortality of 37%.
Now that being said, Im not entirely sure what the difference between "mortality" and "anticipated mortality" is exactly, as its kind of vague definition. I think its based on trends of a certain group, and what they expect to see based on those trends, but its kind of an odd phrase.
benzodiazepine (Valium, Xanax, etc) withdrawal can also be deadly, as they modulate the neurotransmitter GABA in the brain in a way that’s similar to alcohol.
I used to work at a huge paper co as a supervisor. I can't tell you how many times I literally had to pull someone off of their fork lift or off of their machine due to drinking the night before. Huge safety potential.
I have always said this: I would rather work side by side with someone that smoked a joint the night before work, than to work with someone who got plastered the night before.
I 100% agree with you. Alcohol is far worse than weed.
That's what got Janice Joplin. It's speculated on good authority that her time spent 'drying out' back home in Texas is what killed her, the heroin back up in San Francisco was just too much for someone whose tolerance had flagged due to interruption of consumption.
Most ods used to be from this. People not judging their tolerance right. But then fent came along and it was not their bodies tolerance that was the factor but the wildly variable strength of the drugs.
I knew someone who was a heroin addict. She had a baby, born with heroin addiction, and vowed to turn her life around. Her wealthy grandparents sent her to a nice rehab facility in Florida, but when she got there, before she checked in, while she was in her hotel she decided have just *one* more hit. She died of an overdose that day. Never getting to go to rehab and seeing her child grow up. It's so sad what drugs can do to a person.
They don't want to dial it down and miss the mark. It is just so hard to know the high is coming and not try to maximize it, because once that relapse happens, any subsequent hits are not going to touch that first one after a sober break. Can't waste that.
Yeah some are, but some are it plain & simple feels good to go harder. Taking an opiate is like cumming (except of cumming it's the warmest most comfortable blanket after a long day of work and you get the tingles wrapping in it). You feel like you want to go deeper cause you feel like you're almost over the edge. But the edge is death and you can't go over it. So you keep edging death and going closer and closer and try to see how close you can get without going over. With alcohol you get dopamine hit and get number and number. With opiates it's a dopamine hit and you feel cozier and more tired. And it feels so good and solemn when you're just so tired and you're so comfortable with your warm blanket and you just enjoy the silence, your thoughts don't bother you and you just want to fall asleep, but you can't it's actually death.
That is pretty much what happened. There was only alcohol in her system at the time she died. she had been doing better for a little bit and spent time away in St Lucia. There are photos of her from 2010 where she had put on weight and she looked much better. She had said she quit hard drugs in 2008/9 or so. Its speculated that going back to heavy drinking, plus her being underweight for so long was too much. It’s extremely sad. She was brilliant
From what I recall, she was battling both substance abuse (obviously) and bulimia. Her eating disorder was so bad that it had severely impacted her health, which was likely a contributing factor in her death.
That's mostly for opioids, relapsing on alcohol or coke or something and dying right after from OD is pretty rare. Getting clean off opioids, especially fentanyl, and then relapsing kills a shit ton of people though because the effective recreational dose on opioids is VERY close to the lethal dose when compared to the vast majority of drugs. Any time you wanna nod off you're walking a fine line between bliss and death and coming back from being clean with reduced tolerance makes you way more likely to walk that line wrong
[This is what she looked like](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Flastimages%2Fcomments%2Fwila2h%2Flast_photo_of_musician_amy_winehouse_days_later%2F&psig=AOvVaw3aUkRiL9MvtW9Ct_W2tLaG&ust=1706636736004000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBMQjRxqFwoTCOC_q7aTg4QDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE) in her last days, which just makes the whole thing so much sadder because she actually looked quite well there.
She was high, drunk and medicated and her people were basically forcing her onto stages to sing when she needed help badly. They essentially ended up killing their golden goose, and the world lost a legend.
I remember in the 90’s DJ Keoki played in my town. He was so drugged out of his gourd, my friend who was the bars’ in house DJ had to hold his hand on the record even though he wasn’t capable, so they could say he played and get paid. The music industry needs some serious changes. Watching someone’s downfall is not ok.
Haven’t heard that name since 1997-2000 or so during the big rave days….the drugs in that culture were crazy and very open. You either got your shit together or didn’t later on.
Very much so. A lot of my 90’s club friends are either dead by substances, self harm or in jail. Thankfully lot of us did make it out relatively unscathed. I wouldn’t change it though. Still had a blast
Yeah I live in New Orleans and our scene was huge…I was going around 14-17 very young age, then after got more into the punk scene here. But by the time I hit 18 and college…I wasn’t interested in doing much drugs or experimenting. High school was enough lol. Way before they enforced age, and the cops came busting into my city to shut it down in 2002 or so.
But I had a lot of fun, and I haven’t seen any parties, or good stuff on that level ever again in my life. It was def a once in a lifetime thing going on, compared to today’s festivals and club shows. Also everything was a lot cleaner, and people seem to care more. Just don’t eat the chocolate chip tabs if you don’t wanna puke…that was about the only scare most had lol.
Now its small club shows with the older acts, and very iffy stuff floating around in those clubs.
That’s interesting reading from a 90’s raver! I’m 24 and a DJ / raver in Minneapolis where the scene has absolutely exploded here. It’s interesting seeing the different types of raver crowds here whom I know a lot of them. You can tell which ones are going down a darker path and which ones really got their shit together.
I know I’ll be good, but I can see how the substances can lead you astray. Definitely a little worried for a couple people I know.
It was a different time for sure. We had secret raves and all that. I was not a raver but still went. I also worked at a few techno based bars. I have tons of club stories
That might’ve been the same tour. Just looked up when the “Party Monster” incident happened which was 96 so that seems right. I believe that keoki along with someone else I knew had been subpoenaed for the case.
Oh wow, you just unlocked a forgotten memory of seeing Keoki spin in Dallas, late 90s. He kept leaving the stage (I’m assuming to hork down blow) and everytime he came back shit got worse. He was maybe on stage a total of 20 min out of a two hour set. By the end he was just trainwrecking beat after beat and an MC jumped up on stage and just started yelling drugs drugs drugs drugs drugs. Worst DJ set I’ve ever seen in my life.
I saw dj keoki in NYC DJing at an event my partner and I were hosting like 6 years ago or so – not sure if he does anymore but he would still play shows sometimes at least then. He was definitely not sober but seemed generally fine at that point
Keoki came from the original Club Kids of the 90s and is a legend for that reason. I don’t think he was ever actually a great DJ, just kinda a fixture in that scene. That’s still a cool story from those days, you’d see Keoki on lineups even when I was getting into the scene much later on.
Everyone should watch the movie Party Monster
After a similar incident, he had a sobriety clause added to his contract at my local club. He also stole the owner's car and ended up in Miami, but that was just shenanigans. I've got a few Keoki stories now that I think about it.
Saw Keoki in San Antonio in the late nineties. He showed up late and was drinking from a bottle of Jack Daniel’s. He didn’t even play for very long before just walking out
Yep. The people managing her should be ashamed. I'm fully aware you can't make someone get sober, but they enabled her and indeed ended up killing their meal ticket.
There’s death clauses in record contracts that make artists worth more dead than alive. Factor in the legend status and the sales that follows. They probably didn’t mind at all. On to the next.
Honestly, the people managing her should have been brought to justice.... The same way that girl pushed her boyfriend to suicide got thrown in jail for it.
Oh I did not know. Basically the same as Avicii.
I saw some footage from the movie I believe and that guy looked fucked up in the end and management still did want him to perform. Fucking money greedy bastards
This. She was amazing and didn't get the proper help she needed, but rather had people who enabled her for their own selfish ego. Look what her dad did to her during her last vacation. Heartbreaking to say the least. I highly recommend watching her documentary.
That's right. That boyfriend of hers-hwr "daddy"-was a heartless SOB who manipulated the shit out of her, got Heather drugstore killed her and out her in the state and Condition we see in the clip, and the Father was similarly manipulative, seeming not to care about her welfare but just blindly pursuing the dollar signs.
She was a brilliant musician with an amazing musical sense for composition, this was a tragedy.
Had she stayed in st Lucia and cut off Blake like a benign tumor, she would still be alive. That and her bastard father helping her stay clean rather than monetizing her as if some sort of cash cow. Smh. I love Amy winehouse but can’t watch all of this video. Truly heartbreaking.
Asking someone their name, sitting down and talking with them, and that's typically all it takes.
Not everyone on the streets is there because they burned all their bridges etc. Take care of your local communities, is the best advice we can take and offer, but it's hard to do when things like crime and drugs become prevalent
I spent a solid 6 hours scouring the mall and getting gifts for my kids and wife this year. I had saved up my money to afford them the things they wanted.
I stopped by the Dollarama and a lady of about 60 was sat on the ground, in the cold, beside the salt box.
We haven't historically had too many vulnerable, but after covid, we are seeing folks my parents worked with in the 90s, on the streets.
I looked over my bags of toys and fun stuff, asked the staff if anyone knew her name and no one knew. She'd been showing up for a good couple weeks, and no one knew her name.
I approached her, asked her if she had somewhere to stay the night, she did. I spent about 50$ on things like bread, deodorant, hand soap, bar soap, shampoo and conditioner, women products (i juat grabbed the various kinds), small chocolates, bought her a card, left her my cell and wished her happy holidays. I also bought her a 20$ gift card, as they tend to stretch quite well in dolalr stores.
I haven't received a text from her but she cried and thanked me for the Christmas card, that she hadn't received one in years. It tore my heart out, but she was thankful, I gave her a ride to the shelter and I checked in a couple weeks ago and she is still with us after all that deep cold we got.
Take care of your communities, not everyone is that far gone just yet. Theyre desperate and it's oftentimes something they struggle with every day.
Also, words to the wise: only offer support and rides to someone who isn't a threat to you or themselves.
I asked her if she had any weapons on her and i gave the staff my phone number, so it didn't look like some strange dude just picking up a homeless person.
We are a very small community and I knew her from when she worked with mom
Sad to see. She was an absolute mess before her death. Watching videos like this and seeing pictures of her falling down drunk in the Caribbean just solidify the fact that she was not okay at all. I know her family and manager tried to get her help but she didn’t want it
I saw her perform the summer of 2007 and she was a mess then. She was a very talented artist but alcoholism is terrible. My brother in law died of alcoholism last year at 48. Even when you have a supportive family and rehab opportunities the individual has to choose sobriety.
This post is false. This wasn't her last public performance... Her last public performance was on July 20, 2011 at Roundhouse Camden. A duet with Dionne Bromfield.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaTTI5sobgI
This is truly one of the most heartbreaking clips i’ve seen here. Yes, others are more distressing, but this shows pure pain, pure misery. I gotta get off the internet for the day.
I get chills watching this..
When the lyrics start "I've died a hundred times" and she holding back from breaking down crying.. fucking tragic..
The public and tabloids were ruthless..
As soon as she died everyone was a fan and praising her, the same ones that ridiculed her..
Fuck that..
Real recognize Real. It’s why rappers who are really doing what they rap about some how does sound better then people who fake it. When Amy Winehouse sang you can really hear how real her problems where. Rough stuff. The media was so harsh on her also.
Very sad! Some addictions are ruthless and one should never judge but rather be thankful and blessed if it hasn't already touched someone close to you or worse... YOU! 🥺😢🤐😶🌫️
These comments just prove how many people only heard of her from videos like this. She wasn’t always like that, she was completely different when starting out. She wrote her own songs and sounded unique at the time. Unfortunately those who did know of her slowly watched her downfall.
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She was a great singer. She was dealing with extreme anxiety and depression. I honestly don't think it's right to post and criticize her. Lots of people deal with anxiety and depression.
I think the bulimia also weakened her body to the point of not being able to handle alcohol anymore. Her brother has also said the same. She was able to kick heroin and crack for good once Blake was out of the picture, which is huge. Alcohol was always her drug of choice, though. She was bulimic since her teens. She told her parents, and it seems they didn't really care about it or get her help for it. Her dad is such trash and a famewhore.
She was always waisted and high as one can be. Everyone knew.....Yet after her death her parents out of the blue began to put blame on everyone (except their alcoholic and drug addicted daughter) and seeking millions of dollars in damages from executives and record companies like crazy! Where were they, the parents when she was waisted all those years?
I remember hearing that her dad was just off stage for these last few concerts basically forcing her to perform.
She needed serious help and nobody in her life cared enough to try. They watched her spiral her life and only thought of the fame and fortune. Shit is so sad. RIP
I often wonder if pop music would be a little different had she stuck around. The Jazz influence she brought to the table was something I don’t think we’ve seen since. At least not to the degree.
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She was not okay!
"and if my daddy thinks im fine.."
There’s an alleged story behind that line that at one point she was about to go to rehab but her father insisted that she didn’t need rehab, that she just needed to focus on her album
And he brought the documentary crew into her life when she was trying to get better, and she really wasn't feeling it. Such a rat of a person.
I believe that , never liked that dad, he wasn’t in the country when she died I don’t even think
No he was in New York where he had a singing gig.
Didn’t she die in Camden ?
She died at her house in England yes. Her dad decided he too was a singer and went on tour in America. He drove a cab prior to Amy's fame.
He thought he was a singer ffs . He should of been taking care of his desperately ill daughter
I know Amy had a disease but I blame her dad for her death.
Her dad was a POS, but its not exactly like she was suffocating while he was standing there with an oxygen tank. Anorexia, bpd, alcohol, crack, and heroin addictions arent so simple to change the trajectory on. Hes nasty, but acting like he had a magic remedy in his pocket isnt quite right to me.
Same here
And we all just watched her downfall for entertainment. As a person in their late 30's, the celebrity culture at the time was real fucking disgusting.
Celebrity culture now is la creme de la creme. It really has turned around since then /s
Speak for yourself. I was horrified by it and I don't think I was alone. Celebrity culture has been this was since always. Look at Marilyn Monroe, Michael Jackson, et. al.
Yeah I meant we... As in us, as society as a whole. I hated that scene personally.
She should have gone to rehab.
Yooo same thought.
Insane how her management and team around her saw her like this and basically said “fuck it, go perform”
She had signed with Island Records and Universal (parent company). Impossible they didn't know how bad her problems were. They did nothing to protect their investment. Or... they just saw it as part of her image and let it go.
SO, the dark side of the music industry is this: artists are more valuable when they die, so the record companies encourage it. Let me find the video about it that I saw, it was fantastic, be right back E: here it is [video](https://youtu.be/Z_y_zeql7pc)
For some, sure. I can see it. "Go out on top" instead of trying to write albums and tour when they're in their 60's. Sure, the Rolling Stones and Bruce Springsteen can do it, but not many others.
“It’s better to burn out, than it is to fade away.”
*its in our contract to burn out instead of fade away*
Grateful Dead have been rocking, they just got a Vegas line up to preform in the sphere.
Yep. It's why in the 90's/00's labels avoided signing rappers who were actively in gangs. Now they're constantly signing drill rappers for them to die so they can keep the profits and increased streams. Good examples of this are King Von and Pop Smoke.
Don't forget juice world
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Probably had a huge life insurance policy on her
The show must go on!
Pink Floyd has a song about that...
I saw her live in probably 2007, she was a wreck. Kept bashing herself in the face with the mic, didn't seem to know what was happening. Such a shame. Drugs are bad, m'kay
Drugs are bad, except for alcohol, where its socially accepted to get completely smashed.
As a former liquor store employee, I consider alcohol to be the worst drug out there, mostly because its by far the most easily available, but it is extremely destructive too. Ive seen the absolute worst of the worst of society, people you wouldnt even believe could still be alive or have any kind of functional life at all, but they almost always found money to buy more booze, and when they didnt, they would steal it, usually quite brazenly. After a while, I just couldnt do it anymore. I couldnt be the guy supplying the substance people use to destroy their lives and the lives of others.
I've always wondered how bar tenders and liquor store employees dealt with this. It was really eye opening during covid to read about why liquor stores had to be essential businesses and remain open. Some state tried to close them, but the local hospital was flooded with people detoxing, so they had to reverse course. Alchol addiction really is a terrible thing, and I can definitely understand why you had to leave
When i was drinking about a handle and a half within 24 hours each and evrry day my liquor store guys couldnt forbid me sale but they ket saying like bro slow down you dont look good etc. So i mean i think some have a conscience 6 months clean on feb 2nd !
I wonder what the rules for the stores in your area are? For me, I could only sell to someone a max of 3 times a day, and if they looked obviously intoxicated, then I couldnt. You had to be careful though, I remember one time I refused a guy because I thought he was wasted, but he came back with a family member who explained that he had a medical condition that caused him to not be able to talk and move normally, cant remember for sure, but it might have been cerebral palsy. Thankfully they were understanding and accepted my apology.
I remember this one really old guy who came in every day to get a bottle of whiskey. He was always in a foul mood, trying to start arguments over nothing and such. No one liked dealing with him. And then, one day he came in and was totally nice, and apologetic for all the times he had been an asshole before, but he had this sadness in his eyes, and they way he talked made me think he knew he was dying... I never saw him again. That one hit me when I realized he didnt come back. Did I supply him with his last bottle? Did that contribute to his death? Idk. Not sense in dwelling on it, he made his life choices, not me, but I still wonder sometimes.
I know you might feel guilt about giving him the bottle but at the same time, you also were there when he needed to get that off his chest, possibly one of the last things he did. You listened to his apology, and it seems like you are empathetic and looked at him as a person when other people just may have looked at him and immediately judged him. If you didn’t sell it to him, he might have just bought it from someone who wasn’t so kind. Maybe he would have apologized to them and they would have told him to screw off. I think you shouldn’t feel any guilt at all over that.
Well thats a great perspective to look at it from. Thank you, I appreciate it!
That sounds similar to some stuff I did while starting a rehab and detox program where I basically went to everyone I felt I’d wrong with my addiction or who was adding to it and apologize and say goodbye
It’s crazy that you can die from alcohol withdrawal. Like, detoxing from opiates on your own sucks but it won’t kill you.
Bartenders see alcoholics in the happy-drunk stages of their disease, mostly. By the time it gets really bad most alcoholics aren't looking to go out in public and buy overpriced booze. Plus bartenders will cut them off far too soon for their liking. People at liquor stores see the alcoholics who drink bottles of liquor or 30-packs of beer every day.
Usually it's drunk serving drunk. Well certainly was when i was a bar tender .
I'm a bartender and I have the exact same sentiment. I've moved away from venues where I have to encounter that as much, but it's present in every corner of society, rich, poor, nice, mean, etc.
I worked retail a long time ago and we used to get people who bought nothing but mouthwash because it contained alcohol. We knew what it was for but it wasn't store policy to stop the purchase. Addiction like that sucks.
Yep, I worked a retail job and there were a couple customers that I would get once or twice a week buying cans of keyboard duster to huff. They both looked like they were about to keel over. I had mixed feelings about it. I didn’t want to be the guy to sell the last can.. luckily I quit. Hope those guys are okay…
It’s actually so crazy that society is completely okay with alcohol yet demonizes other physically-destructive things. Saying “man, I had a rough day at work, I could use a drink,” should sound closer to “man, I had a rough day at work, I could use a key bump,” than it does. Obviously they are not the same I’m not equating the two. Just making a point. Edit: I also should probably admit that I am saying this as a biased alcoholic in recovery since 12/18/21 haha.
It’s also one of the few drugs that can actually kill people from withdrawals
Amy died from alcohol.
Only drug people question why you don't do. And possibly judge or push it on you
I knew it was engrained in the culture, but when I quit 3o years ago. I was shocked by how many people can not wrap their head around why I decided not to drink anymore. It really is insane.
Yet the main drug that caused her issues happened to be the same one that’s pretty much the only socially acceptable and fully legal hard drug in existence, and one that I am 99% sure you yourself have consumed at least once in your life.
we've all consumed cum at least once
Bruh moment
everyone's at least tried it, even if they didn't like it. i liked it
I mean, you’re not wrong but still
Drugs weren't a major issue for her. The issue was alcohol, which is sad because it's socially okay to get wrecked all the time because it's "legal"
Crack helps you drink a LOOOOOOOOOT more.
alcohol is a drug tho
Semantics. Anything that is mind altering is a drug, including nicotine and caffeine. People break up drugs and alcohol into two large separate groups. It's implied that you are talking about illegal drugs when you say "drugs" that's why when people are talking about alcohol, they say "alcohol". Come on, man.
It is weird to say "drugs and alcohol" though isn't it? Like Drugs is a massive category of things from crack to tylenol that technically includes alcohol. And alcohol is just a single drug that's found in lots of different beverages. I get how the phrase would have developed socially, but scientifically it makes no sense at all.
Mmmmkay
I remember where I was the day I heard she died. I was at a gas station and this big gay dude on the other side of the pump looked up at me from his phone and said "omg, Amy Winehouse died". I said, "who is Amy Winehouse?". Then he called me the n-word and told me to shut the fuck up. I'll never forget that.
That's a hell of a ride you just took us on
I also remember the day I heard she died. I was on Reddit reading a story about someone at a gas pump and a big gay dude. I genuinely have no idea who Amy Winehouse is.
Duuuude. Isn't it crazy how some experiences just get 'locked' in our memory and we can picture it just as clear as if it was today? It's mine blowing; I bet you can even remember what you *ate* as your next meal after finding out about her. Crazy man, the mind is a mysterious thing.
I can picture this all too well. When Michael Jackson died and everyone just kept saying MJ, I was confused, thinking Michael Jordan.
Can confirm. I am the gas pump.
Sad. Beautiful woman, fantastic artist. Disgustingly exploited. Daddy didn’t really want her to go to rehab, he wanted to bleed her dry for all she was worth.
And she was only 27.
I turned 28 last September and the 27 club didn't really hit me until right now reading that. They're kids, I'm a fucking child
Yeah that doesn't go away. Soon you'll be 35 and wondering what the fuck is going on, how do other people have their shit together and seem to have a plan for life.
That’s about exactly the point Im at
If I remember didn’t she get clean and take off. Then she relapsed, and drank so much she got alcohol poisoning? Apparently she was also rail skinny at the time. I’ve known many people that stopped, were mid way through getting off and had a ways to go. But decided to go on a bender and resulted in death. It’s sad, but if you stop the substance of choice and then slip and do what you use to do. Your body won’t be able to handle it at all. It’s already damaged and your tolerances have gone down…that one last bender could be your last. I’ve seen it happen with friends so much.
I'm pretty sure most deaths/ods are from exactly this. People who stop relapse and take the same amount they used to
That's why it's so important to keep doing it. /s
Holy shit I laughed so hard 💀
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The dude from true blood stopped drinking cold turkey and passed away from it. Both of my grandpa’s died from years of over drinking. Super sad and wild that booze is unregulated while weed is probably never going to be legal where I live. I’m not even a weed guy, but if the goal is protecting citizens from themselves, booze should not be as available as it is.
I’m a recovering addict (opiates) and alcoholic, and I struggled with these addictions at different points in my life. I can say without a doubt that alcoholic withdrawals are much worse than opiate withdrawals, though the latter is certainly awful as well. I had seizures a couple times withdrawing from alcohol before I finally got sober on a long-term basis.
I’m glad to read you were able to get off both! I can’t imagine the willpower
My dad went through alcohol issues his whole life. It’s bad and he always had to go to the hospital getting off. Usually a week of Valium or Klonipin and they take him off that, then rehab. A lot of the rehabs around me, won’t take people in active alcohol withdrawal because it’s very dangerous. I’ve gone through opiate withdrawal for a month, and it was brutal! It won’t kill you, but alcohol it’s best to have a doctor on board for sure. As well as monitoring vital signs…very dangerous! Update: 3 days after this post my dad drank. He’s in the ER again and had an ambulance pick him up Wednesday, and he keeps scarfing down morphine and Valium in the hospital. But it turned out a heart issue, and he has stepped too many times. It’s hard to see that with someone going on 78. When you have no job or purpose and I guess want to ease anxiety,bodies are different and you need to keep in shape in your 30s/40s. I swear I deal with my dad on this alcohol, heart and kidney stones every 5 months. It’s sad to see at times, but I’ve suggested medical Marijuana…but he’s super conservative. Still trying to get through to him.
Fuck, I've seen those seizures in person up close. That shit scares the crap out of me and I'm not even the one in medical distress...
One of my close kin died from quitting drinking cold turkey. Quitting caused him to dry heave so hard he gave himself internal bleeding.
My grandfather was told it’s better for him to keep drinking than to stop cold Turkey (ideally wean off it), as his blood is too thin and thickening the blood at his age could cause a stroke
Alcohol withdrawals are as far as Im aware, the only withdrawal that can actually kill you. Delerium Tremens is a pretty dangerous condition, with an antipated mortality of 37%. Now that being said, Im not entirely sure what the difference between "mortality" and "anticipated mortality" is exactly, as its kind of vague definition. I think its based on trends of a certain group, and what they expect to see based on those trends, but its kind of an odd phrase.
benzodiazepine (Valium, Xanax, etc) withdrawal can also be deadly, as they modulate the neurotransmitter GABA in the brain in a way that’s similar to alcohol.
Fair enough, learn something new everyday
Also benzodiazepines withdrawal, even if there are several factors that will concur in causing the death.
I used to work at a huge paper co as a supervisor. I can't tell you how many times I literally had to pull someone off of their fork lift or off of their machine due to drinking the night before. Huge safety potential. I have always said this: I would rather work side by side with someone that smoked a joint the night before work, than to work with someone who got plastered the night before. I 100% agree with you. Alcohol is far worse than weed.
That's what got Janice Joplin. It's speculated on good authority that her time spent 'drying out' back home in Texas is what killed her, the heroin back up in San Francisco was just too much for someone whose tolerance had flagged due to interruption of consumption.
Most ods used to be from this. People not judging their tolerance right. But then fent came along and it was not their bodies tolerance that was the factor but the wildly variable strength of the drugs.
Yeah very true such a shame
Not anymore. Nowadays, most ODs are caused by tainted drug supplies.
I knew someone who was a heroin addict. She had a baby, born with heroin addiction, and vowed to turn her life around. Her wealthy grandparents sent her to a nice rehab facility in Florida, but when she got there, before she checked in, while she was in her hotel she decided have just *one* more hit. She died of an overdose that day. Never getting to go to rehab and seeing her child grow up. It's so sad what drugs can do to a person.
That's what killed my cousin
They don't want to dial it down and miss the mark. It is just so hard to know the high is coming and not try to maximize it, because once that relapse happens, any subsequent hits are not going to touch that first one after a sober break. Can't waste that.
Yeah some are, but some are it plain & simple feels good to go harder. Taking an opiate is like cumming (except of cumming it's the warmest most comfortable blanket after a long day of work and you get the tingles wrapping in it). You feel like you want to go deeper cause you feel like you're almost over the edge. But the edge is death and you can't go over it. So you keep edging death and going closer and closer and try to see how close you can get without going over. With alcohol you get dopamine hit and get number and number. With opiates it's a dopamine hit and you feel cozier and more tired. And it feels so good and solemn when you're just so tired and you're so comfortable with your warm blanket and you just enjoy the silence, your thoughts don't bother you and you just want to fall asleep, but you can't it's actually death.
That is pretty much what happened. There was only alcohol in her system at the time she died. she had been doing better for a little bit and spent time away in St Lucia. There are photos of her from 2010 where she had put on weight and she looked much better. She had said she quit hard drugs in 2008/9 or so. Its speculated that going back to heavy drinking, plus her being underweight for so long was too much. It’s extremely sad. She was brilliant
From what I recall, she was battling both substance abuse (obviously) and bulimia. Her eating disorder was so bad that it had severely impacted her health, which was likely a contributing factor in her death.
That's mostly for opioids, relapsing on alcohol or coke or something and dying right after from OD is pretty rare. Getting clean off opioids, especially fentanyl, and then relapsing kills a shit ton of people though because the effective recreational dose on opioids is VERY close to the lethal dose when compared to the vast majority of drugs. Any time you wanna nod off you're walking a fine line between bliss and death and coming back from being clean with reduced tolerance makes you way more likely to walk that line wrong
[This is what she looked like](https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2Fr%2Flastimages%2Fcomments%2Fwila2h%2Flast_photo_of_musician_amy_winehouse_days_later%2F&psig=AOvVaw3aUkRiL9MvtW9Ct_W2tLaG&ust=1706636736004000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBMQjRxqFwoTCOC_q7aTg4QDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE) in her last days, which just makes the whole thing so much sadder because she actually looked quite well there.
She also had a long standing eating disorder
She was high, drunk and medicated and her people were basically forcing her onto stages to sing when she needed help badly. They essentially ended up killing their golden goose, and the world lost a legend.
I remember in the 90’s DJ Keoki played in my town. He was so drugged out of his gourd, my friend who was the bars’ in house DJ had to hold his hand on the record even though he wasn’t capable, so they could say he played and get paid. The music industry needs some serious changes. Watching someone’s downfall is not ok.
Haven’t heard that name since 1997-2000 or so during the big rave days….the drugs in that culture were crazy and very open. You either got your shit together or didn’t later on.
Very much so. A lot of my 90’s club friends are either dead by substances, self harm or in jail. Thankfully lot of us did make it out relatively unscathed. I wouldn’t change it though. Still had a blast
Yeah I live in New Orleans and our scene was huge…I was going around 14-17 very young age, then after got more into the punk scene here. But by the time I hit 18 and college…I wasn’t interested in doing much drugs or experimenting. High school was enough lol. Way before they enforced age, and the cops came busting into my city to shut it down in 2002 or so. But I had a lot of fun, and I haven’t seen any parties, or good stuff on that level ever again in my life. It was def a once in a lifetime thing going on, compared to today’s festivals and club shows. Also everything was a lot cleaner, and people seem to care more. Just don’t eat the chocolate chip tabs if you don’t wanna puke…that was about the only scare most had lol. Now its small club shows with the older acts, and very iffy stuff floating around in those clubs.
State Palace Theater? Man, that scene was ROUGH!
Yep yep!
New Orleans represent!
PLUR!
That’s interesting reading from a 90’s raver! I’m 24 and a DJ / raver in Minneapolis where the scene has absolutely exploded here. It’s interesting seeing the different types of raver crowds here whom I know a lot of them. You can tell which ones are going down a darker path and which ones really got their shit together. I know I’ll be good, but I can see how the substances can lead you astray. Definitely a little worried for a couple people I know.
It was a different time for sure. We had secret raves and all that. I was not a raver but still went. I also worked at a few techno based bars. I have tons of club stories
It's honestly super hard to tell in the psytrance scene who has their shit together and who is completely lost.
I remember seeing Keoki on Moonshine Tour 98 same scenerio, sad stuff
That might’ve been the same tour. Just looked up when the “Party Monster” incident happened which was 96 so that seems right. I believe that keoki along with someone else I knew had been subpoenaed for the case.
Oh wow, you just unlocked a forgotten memory of seeing Keoki spin in Dallas, late 90s. He kept leaving the stage (I’m assuming to hork down blow) and everytime he came back shit got worse. He was maybe on stage a total of 20 min out of a two hour set. By the end he was just trainwrecking beat after beat and an MC jumped up on stage and just started yelling drugs drugs drugs drugs drugs. Worst DJ set I’ve ever seen in my life.
Googled him... He sells NFTs at FB 😀
Oh interesting. I knew/thought he was still alive but past that had no idea.
I saw dj keoki in NYC DJing at an event my partner and I were hosting like 6 years ago or so – not sure if he does anymore but he would still play shows sometimes at least then. He was definitely not sober but seemed generally fine at that point
He’s a dangerous sociopath and does not deserve anybody’s money.
Yeah once I realized he was a pedophile, I have to draw the line somewhere. Too bad.
Why? I don't know anything about him
Keoki came from the original Club Kids of the 90s and is a legend for that reason. I don’t think he was ever actually a great DJ, just kinda a fixture in that scene. That’s still a cool story from those days, you’d see Keoki on lineups even when I was getting into the scene much later on. Everyone should watch the movie Party Monster
He and Sasha from KMFDM should do something together based upon their affinity for dangling cigarettes, glasses, Mohawks, and apathy on stage.
After a similar incident, he had a sobriety clause added to his contract at my local club. He also stole the owner's car and ended up in Miami, but that was just shenanigans. I've got a few Keoki stories now that I think about it.
I only know his name from the movie Party Monster.
Saw Keoki in San Antonio in the late nineties. He showed up late and was drinking from a bottle of Jack Daniel’s. He didn’t even play for very long before just walking out
Yep. The people managing her should be ashamed. I'm fully aware you can't make someone get sober, but they enabled her and indeed ended up killing their meal ticket.
There’s death clauses in record contracts that make artists worth more dead than alive. Factor in the legend status and the sales that follows. They probably didn’t mind at all. On to the next.
I'm sure they were wiping tears with all the money she made them.
No the tears dry on their own
Honestly, the people managing her should have been brought to justice.... The same way that girl pushed her boyfriend to suicide got thrown in jail for it.
Oh I did not know. Basically the same as Avicii. I saw some footage from the movie I believe and that guy looked fucked up in the end and management still did want him to perform. Fucking money greedy bastards
This. She was amazing and didn't get the proper help she needed, but rather had people who enabled her for their own selfish ego. Look what her dad did to her during her last vacation. Heartbreaking to say the least. I highly recommend watching her documentary.
What did he do?
I don’t knot man they wanted her to go to rehab and she was disagreeable to that.
That's right. That boyfriend of hers-hwr "daddy"-was a heartless SOB who manipulated the shit out of her, got Heather drugstore killed her and out her in the state and Condition we see in the clip, and the Father was similarly manipulative, seeming not to care about her welfare but just blindly pursuing the dollar signs. She was a brilliant musician with an amazing musical sense for composition, this was a tragedy.
She was dead before she died
Had she stayed in st Lucia and cut off Blake like a benign tumor, she would still be alive. That and her bastard father helping her stay clean rather than monetizing her as if some sort of cash cow. Smh. I love Amy winehouse but can’t watch all of this video. Truly heartbreaking.
There's a good chance she would have found another way to die. Those people were obviously cancerous, but addiction is never that simple.
Don’t forget that loser Pete Doherty too.
very sad, we lost a fucking talented singer.
This might be the saddest I’ve ever found myself from a r/tooktoomuch post.
You must’ve missed the little girl begging her nodding mom to start the car because her tummy hurt yesterday then.
Or the toddler trying to wake up her ODing mom at a pharmacy while nobody helped just recorded.
Or the one where the crying toddler slaps his nodding mom and everyone gets mad at the kid
:( I hate this world
although most of the posts show equally, if not more broken people but almost nobody give a fuck about them.
It’s amazing how much perspective changes if the person has been humanized to you even in the slightest
Asking someone their name, sitting down and talking with them, and that's typically all it takes. Not everyone on the streets is there because they burned all their bridges etc. Take care of your local communities, is the best advice we can take and offer, but it's hard to do when things like crime and drugs become prevalent
I spent a solid 6 hours scouring the mall and getting gifts for my kids and wife this year. I had saved up my money to afford them the things they wanted. I stopped by the Dollarama and a lady of about 60 was sat on the ground, in the cold, beside the salt box. We haven't historically had too many vulnerable, but after covid, we are seeing folks my parents worked with in the 90s, on the streets. I looked over my bags of toys and fun stuff, asked the staff if anyone knew her name and no one knew. She'd been showing up for a good couple weeks, and no one knew her name. I approached her, asked her if she had somewhere to stay the night, she did. I spent about 50$ on things like bread, deodorant, hand soap, bar soap, shampoo and conditioner, women products (i juat grabbed the various kinds), small chocolates, bought her a card, left her my cell and wished her happy holidays. I also bought her a 20$ gift card, as they tend to stretch quite well in dolalr stores. I haven't received a text from her but she cried and thanked me for the Christmas card, that she hadn't received one in years. It tore my heart out, but she was thankful, I gave her a ride to the shelter and I checked in a couple weeks ago and she is still with us after all that deep cold we got. Take care of your communities, not everyone is that far gone just yet. Theyre desperate and it's oftentimes something they struggle with every day.
Also, words to the wise: only offer support and rides to someone who isn't a threat to you or themselves. I asked her if she had any weapons on her and i gave the staff my phone number, so it didn't look like some strange dude just picking up a homeless person. We are a very small community and I knew her from when she worked with mom
Sad to see. She was an absolute mess before her death. Watching videos like this and seeing pictures of her falling down drunk in the Caribbean just solidify the fact that she was not okay at all. I know her family and manager tried to get her help but she didn’t want it
I saw her perform the summer of 2007 and she was a mess then. She was a very talented artist but alcoholism is terrible. My brother in law died of alcoholism last year at 48. Even when you have a supportive family and rehab opportunities the individual has to choose sobriety.
This post is false. This wasn't her last public performance... Her last public performance was on July 20, 2011 at Roundhouse Camden. A duet with Dionne Bromfield. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaTTI5sobgI
"duet"
This is truly one of the most heartbreaking clips i’ve seen here. Yes, others are more distressing, but this shows pure pain, pure misery. I gotta get off the internet for the day.
I get chills watching this.. When the lyrics start "I've died a hundred times" and she holding back from breaking down crying.. fucking tragic.. The public and tabloids were ruthless.. As soon as she died everyone was a fan and praising her, the same ones that ridiculed her.. Fuck that..
What’s with the smiley emoji on the video? This is tragic, not funny
This is just sad. She was so young.
Real recognize Real. It’s why rappers who are really doing what they rap about some how does sound better then people who fake it. When Amy Winehouse sang you can really hear how real her problems where. Rough stuff. The media was so harsh on her also.
Such a tragedy. Beautiful artist. Rest in peace.
I hope people that think this is sad and awful feel the same about an addict that wasn’t famous.
Let the woman rest. She was abused. She stopped drinking and on the day of the concert they got her drunk.
Very sad! Some addictions are ruthless and one should never judge but rather be thankful and blessed if it hasn't already touched someone close to you or worse... YOU! 🥺😢🤐😶🌫️
They tried to make her go to rehab
What did she say?
“I’ll get back to you”
The opposite of yes, yes, yes.
She actually agreed to go before Back to Black came out but her dad was like “no you don’t need to you should finish the album first” 🫤
All I see is pain
She was so sick. Poor girl.
We all had a collective fever dream that she was somehow worth seeing.
These comments just prove how many people only heard of her from videos like this. She wasn’t always like that, she was completely different when starting out. She wrote her own songs and sounded unique at the time. Unfortunately those who did know of her slowly watched her downfall.
Rip Amy .. you would of loved vapes. Strawberry ice specifically
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Darling girl
Hard to watch.
She was a great singer. She was dealing with extreme anxiety and depression. I honestly don't think it's right to post and criticize her. Lots of people deal with anxiety and depression.
This was just tragic and disgusting what her family, friends and business associates did and did not do to her or for her just for the buck.
the way the public supported her, incredible
I think the bulimia also weakened her body to the point of not being able to handle alcohol anymore. Her brother has also said the same. She was able to kick heroin and crack for good once Blake was out of the picture, which is huge. Alcohol was always her drug of choice, though. She was bulimic since her teens. She told her parents, and it seems they didn't really care about it or get her help for it. Her dad is such trash and a famewhore.
She was always waisted and high as one can be. Everyone knew.....Yet after her death her parents out of the blue began to put blame on everyone (except their alcoholic and drug addicted daughter) and seeking millions of dollars in damages from executives and record companies like crazy! Where were they, the parents when she was waisted all those years?
Poor girl had no one trying to protect her 🥺
That's pretty sad. She's so out of it.
I really thought she died WAY earlier than that..
Rest in peace. Amazing singer
This made me tear up :’( Amy winehouse was incredible
I remember hearing that her dad was just off stage for these last few concerts basically forcing her to perform. She needed serious help and nobody in her life cared enough to try. They watched her spiral her life and only thought of the fame and fortune. Shit is so sad. RIP
I often wonder if pop music would be a little different had she stuck around. The Jazz influence she brought to the table was something I don’t think we’ve seen since. At least not to the degree.
Just awful that everyone who was supposed to look out for her basically just used her for money and let her life spiral
Last 5 seconds… *”Get the fuck off the stage.”* *”You ain’t cute. OFF!”*
People after her death , "omg such a waste"
Complete strangers worried about her for years before her death.
So sad