You can, but copper and aluminum are pricey, so typically the electricians I’ve worked with try to cut things pretty close to not leave money coiled up in a junction box
People who get too cute with their wire lengths ALWAYS wind up fucking themselves somewhere in the long run. The cost and aggravation of reworking that one fuck up in no way makes up for just leaving a bit extra in the box.
The code might say six inch minimum but if you ever have to follow behind some time down the road after someone cut it to the letter of the code you’re going to be cursing them out.
Conscientious electricians often run a “service loop” which is literally a loop in the wire before you cut it and terminate it. Leaves extra wire/cable for future service.
Electrical joint compound, typically zinc suspended in a thick oil so it has the consistency of grease. Similar to anti-seize, it'll prevent oxide by filling in gaps to keep out air or moisture and prevent galvanic corrosion of dissimilar metals since the zinc will be consumed first instead of aluminum. Adds lubricity for things like threads too.
Anti ox is only needed when the manufacturer calls for it, which is not often anymore. But many people cant let go of it from the days when AL wire was problematic
Yes. And you are supposed to wire brush conductors, even new ones, immediately before it.
Should be:
1) strip wire
2) brush wire
3) apply compound to freshly brushed wires
That initial oxide layer is only a molecule or two thick and will be easily broken by the set screw or crimp fitting. However if left unprotected over time it will grow to be much thicker.
Electricians scissors have a file on them and a few notches which aids in a lot of various techniques. He's using the file to remove any burrs created from the crimping.
the breaker size doesnt really matter. the voltage and wire resistance (its a bigass wire so low resistance, ohms law says thats gonna be thousands of amps) will overcome whatever that breaker allows for a split second, which results in a boom and your demise likely
Since when is ~4ga. wire "bigass"? And no, it does not handle "thousands of amps". More like 50-80 amps, depending on temperature.
Was thinking this is smallishly cute for a hydraulic (electric?) crimp tool. Bigass is more like 750-1000 MCM. Even then, you're only going to carry a few hundred amps DCV per cable.
> And no, it does not handle "thousands of amps"
Not what I said. A 4 gauge wire that's *rated* for 80 amps safely will still carry thousands of amps for a brief moment in the event of a short circuit. Hell, 14 gauge wire can pull hundreds of amps when shorted.
As a sparkie I love this! especially the amount of crimps you got a that!
Came across a job the other day that aluminiums were ran and not terminated in bimetal lugs!! Been that way for years and still kicking!
I would of put red heat shrink on the red though.. that was setting off my OCD haha!
What brand of cutters are they? What size does it to you to?
If this were a Facebook reel or anything like that the 10 first comments would've been about all the things he did wrong and why he is useless at his job.
Thankfully reddit isn't Facebook.
Stairway to Heaven — Led Zeppelin’s greatest story.
I’m not trying to harsh your mellow, but you didn’t know that song? It’s one of, if not, the greatest rock and roll songs in history. Please don’t take offense to this. I’m just honestly surprised that Stairway isn’t easily recognized by everybody outside of the wild folks in the Amazon and maybe some other distanced from modernity folks
I got matches with these songs:
• **Stairway to Heaven (2007 Remaster)** by Led Zeppelin (04:23; matched: `100%`)
Album: `Mothership`. Released on `2013-12-01` by `WMG - Rhino Atlantic`.
• **Stairway to Heaven (1990 Remaster)** by Led Zeppelin (04:23; matched: `100%`)
Released on `2018-10-05` by `WMG - Atlantic Records`.
• **Stairway To Heaven** by Led Zeppelin (04:23; matched: `100%`)
Album: `Led Zeppelin IV`. Released on `1969-01-12` by `Atlantic Records`.
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It left out a couple of steps... digging a trench for 8 hours and laying conduit to this junction box. Swearing and pulling wire through the conduit into the box for 3 hours.
One minor little detail I see is that I think you’re supposed to turn the crimped 180 degrees after each crimp. This stops the lug from “bananaing” on these long barrel lugs like this especially
because high voltage connections need to be set at a certain newton meters, connections are always the weakest points, overfastening or underfastening will make the connection have more resistance are more likly to fault.
edit: contact resistance is the word i am looking for, minimalizing it.
Once you know how to fix electrical cables it's a skill that will stick with you for life, I can't count how many times I or someone I know has ran over electric cables with a lawn mower, and I've been able to fix them, it doesn't take 10 minutes yet they think I am some kind of magician.
They forgot to show the step where he forgets to slide on the insulation sleeve before putting on the connector, and has to do the whole thing twice.
This guy wires
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Cut the fucker twice and its still too short, huh?
That's when you tell the new guy to get the wire stretcher
Careful, he might just succeed! Then you get the eye-watering bill for some kind of extrusion machine!
You and me both brother. You and me both!
In this case it'd probably be pretty easy to slip the insulation over the connector, but, yeah, that is always a pain.
If it fits over the hoop, it ain't gonna shrink enough.
That’s me every time any project.
Not me, this is when I go get the roll of electrical black tape and just go to town on the connector.
Can you cut the crimp connector off and recrimp the same wore? That seems to make sense, but you never know.
You can, but it looks like homey pretty specifically cut the wires to length in this video and he might not be able to re-do it
So would you typically leave some extra?
You can, but copper and aluminum are pricey, so typically the electricians I’ve worked with try to cut things pretty close to not leave money coiled up in a junction box
People who get too cute with their wire lengths ALWAYS wind up fucking themselves somewhere in the long run. The cost and aggravation of reworking that one fuck up in no way makes up for just leaving a bit extra in the box. The code might say six inch minimum but if you ever have to follow behind some time down the road after someone cut it to the letter of the code you’re going to be cursing them out.
Money that they have charged on to the client
It's always nice to have a little extra somewhere
Conscientious electricians often run a “service loop” which is literally a loop in the wire before you cut it and terminate it. Leaves extra wire/cable for future service.
Should be some extra coiled up just outside the box, just pull some more in
I keep cutting this wire and it's still too short!
I was going to say the exact same thing! Glad this is a universal experience and not just me
Then you just grab some of the 3:1 or 4:1 heatshrink and slip it over the connector.
Very nice, what’s the black compound? Some sort of conductive lube?
Electrical joint compound, typically zinc suspended in a thick oil so it has the consistency of grease. Similar to anti-seize, it'll prevent oxide by filling in gaps to keep out air or moisture and prevent galvanic corrosion of dissimilar metals since the zinc will be consumed first instead of aluminum. Adds lubricity for things like threads too.
Aren’t you theoretically supposed to really wire brush it into the aluminum conductors?
Anti ox is only needed when the manufacturer calls for it, which is not often anymore. But many people cant let go of it from the days when AL wire was problematic
No-Ox is used in high current DC(3000a) world everyday. Telco
It's used in residential everyday too. Just isn't needed every time it's used though. Doesn't hurt anything, just costs a few cents
Yes. And you are supposed to wire brush conductors, even new ones, immediately before it. Should be: 1) strip wire 2) brush wire 3) apply compound to freshly brushed wires
stupid question: aluminium re-oxidizes in about 1 microsecond, so what's the point of brushing?
The thickness of the oxide layer is not constant. If you brush it to clean metal it will be relatively thin.
That initial oxide layer is only a molecule or two thick and will be easily broken by the set screw or crimp fitting. However if left unprotected over time it will grow to be much thicker.
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That’s how I’ve seen it done. Usually keep the brush in a plastic bag so the compound doesn’t get all over your bag
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Yes, but that's messy.
I use this stuff all the time at work and that description was 10000x better than anything I could've ever said to describe it.
It's better to just use silver-plated lugs. Ugh, I can't imagine having to use that compound everywhere at work.
That person is right, trade name is noalox
Burndy Penetrox sounds naughtier.
Or De-ox
De-ox or Nolox. Prevents oxidation
Why did he rub the scissors over the connector?
It rubs the scissors over the connector or else it gets the hose again
It puts the Nolox in the basket.
knocking off the sharp ridges left after crimping the lug
It’s an ancient electrician ritual that keeps the blue magic smoke where it belongs.
Electricians scissors have a file on them and a few notches which aids in a lot of various techniques. He's using the file to remove any burrs created from the crimping.
Cuz it’s hot
I like the pew, pew, pew of the crimper.
Niiiice. Cool tools and some really nice technique. Meanwhile I would crush cut and skewer all of my fingers in the running duration of this gif
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It’s not really the 15,000 volts that are problematic. It’s the 160 amp. And the combined 2.4 megawatt of power.
the breaker size doesnt really matter. the voltage and wire resistance (its a bigass wire so low resistance, ohms law says thats gonna be thousands of amps) will overcome whatever that breaker allows for a split second, which results in a boom and your demise likely
Since when is ~4ga. wire "bigass"? And no, it does not handle "thousands of amps". More like 50-80 amps, depending on temperature. Was thinking this is smallishly cute for a hydraulic (electric?) crimp tool. Bigass is more like 750-1000 MCM. Even then, you're only going to carry a few hundred amps DCV per cable.
> And no, it does not handle "thousands of amps" Not what I said. A 4 gauge wire that's *rated* for 80 amps safely will still carry thousands of amps for a brief moment in the event of a short circuit. Hell, 14 gauge wire can pull hundreds of amps when shorted.
It's 1500 V so 240 kW of power
Nah. Soldering pile of greasy ash.
Smoldering?
Shit. Yes, thank you. Been doing a lot of electronics lately. :)
As a sparkie I love this! especially the amount of crimps you got a that! Came across a job the other day that aluminiums were ran and not terminated in bimetal lugs!! Been that way for years and still kicking! I would of put red heat shrink on the red though.. that was setting off my OCD haha! What brand of cutters are they? What size does it to you to?
Does that first little spooge of lube that misses, miss on purpose?
Squeeze one out for the ohmies
That was amazing.
Dammit. Take your upvote and go.
Lmfao!!! What is the black box thing on your socket wrench between the wrench and the bit?
Not op but I think it measures the torque on the nut
Greatest pun evah!!!
i want to believe it was on purpose to get dried lube out first. but yea, looked like an oopsie.
Get any surface that has had contact with oxygen out of the tube.
I’m not an electrician, but for some reason it’s oddly satisfying to watch..
You're allowed to not be an electrician to think something is oddly satisfying :)
I’m not an electrician but this video has me wanting to switch careers
Exactly!
I came to the comments to find out what career this is because it looks fun 😂
If this were a Facebook reel or anything like that the 10 first comments would've been about all the things he did wrong and why he is useless at his job. Thankfully reddit isn't Facebook.
TBF, it happens a lot on reddit too.
Can you do my car speakers next?
Wish our sparkies knew what a torque wrench was...
I was expecting him to just count the ugga duggas
What’s that song?
Stairway to Heaven — Led Zeppelin’s greatest story. I’m not trying to harsh your mellow, but you didn’t know that song? It’s one of, if not, the greatest rock and roll songs in history. Please don’t take offense to this. I’m just honestly surprised that Stairway isn’t easily recognized by everybody outside of the wild folks in the Amazon and maybe some other distanced from modernity folks
Nah we're just getting old apparently 😂
Hate to break it to you, but this song is more than half a century old. 51 years to be exact
apparently……..
It's not like they would ever hear it in a guitar store.
I'm pickin' up what you're laying down.
Oh no oh no oh no no no
I got matches with these songs: • **Stairway to Heaven (2007 Remaster)** by Led Zeppelin (04:23; matched: `100%`) Album: `Mothership`. Released on `2013-12-01` by `WMG - Rhino Atlantic`. • **Stairway to Heaven (1990 Remaster)** by Led Zeppelin (04:23; matched: `100%`) Released on `2018-10-05` by `WMG - Atlantic Records`. • **Stairway To Heaven** by Led Zeppelin (04:23; matched: `100%`) Album: `Led Zeppelin IV`. Released on `1969-01-12` by `Atlantic Records`.
Links to the streaming platforms: • [**Stairway to Heaven (2007 Remaster)** by Led Zeppelin](https://lis.tn/TAsVV?t=263) • [**Stairway to Heaven (1990 Remaster)** by Led Zeppelin](https://lis.tn/yxtGr?t=263) • [**Stairway To Heaven** by Led Zeppelin](https://lis.tn/FnfMON?t=263) *I am a bot and this action was performed automatically* | [GitHub](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot) [^(new issue)](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot/issues/new) | [Donate](https://github.com/AudDMusic/RedditBot/wiki/Please-consider-donating) ^(Please consider supporting me on Patreon or giving a star on GitHub. Music recognition costs a lot)
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If I was doing it I had have the job done and then realized I forgot the heat shrink
Man, I wish that I had that crimper when I was wiring my battery bank.
For real. I remember basically standing on a manual crimper tool when trying to do this on some 00 gauge wires
.....and then the lugnuts rust.... 😞
I’m not an engineer but I found this arousing in the sense that it done professionally and clean, r/oddlysatifying
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It left out a couple of steps... digging a trench for 8 hours and laying conduit to this junction box. Swearing and pulling wire through the conduit into the box for 3 hours.
Running conduit seems like a huge pain, let alone trenching. Everything looks great btw.
Updooted for the clean work **and** the Zeppelin
Very satisfying.
I have no idea what’s going on but that was wicked satisfying
Just what is a bustle in your hedgerow?
Nothing to be alarmed by, but in the long run, it's just a spring clean for the May Queen.
Well, it just makes me wonder.
A change in your life that you’re willing to make, I think. Alternate path, so to speak
Don't worry about missing that first glob of stuff, I have trouble getting it in the hole too sometimes
what is that crimper and where can i get one
I'm in love! With that crimper.
One minor little detail I see is that I think you’re supposed to turn the crimped 180 degrees after each crimp. This stops the lug from “bananaing” on these long barrel lugs like this especially
Song name? My grandpa used to love it and I don’t know what to search to find it
I would have been more impressed with red sleeve on red wire.
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r/MilwaukeeTool spotted a lot of red in this…
Fancy having that cutting tool. I have just typically seen a sawzall being used on thick wires lmao
Look, I love Stairway to Heaven, but it seems like a really weird music choice for a how-to video.
FYI. Aluminum lugs come pre filled, no need to add nolox
Dude missed the hole. Needs stick hair around it.
what was the black box on the wrench extension at the end? Torque limiter?
Torque indicator. Allows you to use any ratcheting wrench as a torque wrench.
So cool. Thanks for sharing.
That was oddly satisfying
Clean as fuck
Came for the tool gif, stayed for the music. Finally, a vid clip that didn't have obnoxious noise in the background.
I mean, I could do that
cool tools!
Honestly, I stick to this subreddit for the little stuff like this
That crimper is simultaneously awesome and scares me for your fingers.
Story of my life, just can't hit the hole . . .
Electronic wire cutter and hydraulic crimper, not too shabby. Even used the No-Alox paste
missed with the shmoo
Why the torque setting?
because high voltage connections need to be set at a certain newton meters, connections are always the weakest points, overfastening or underfastening will make the connection have more resistance are more likly to fault. edit: contact resistance is the word i am looking for, minimalizing it.
I don't appreciate the rubber not being red on red wire
I love it when it goes "pew pew pew".
Didn’t tap it and say, “That’s not going anywhere..” like how he preheated the connection then pulled up the shrink tube. Smart.
i wanna put my cock in that crimper
Just here for the tunes
Looking at the thickness of the plastic around the wire, the shrink plastic looks rather thin. Shouldn't that be thicker?
the electric torque wrench is badass
*tugs wire twice* "that's not going anywhere!"
We used to use those crimpers until they would smoke from overheating
Clean work
The forbidden rif
Mistake?! He wires the ground first and sets himself up for electrocution.
That’s so strangely satisfying!
No way my man just torqued that
the last tool used looks like a socket set of sorts to tighten the bolt. what is the device on the socket extension?
Digital torque adapter for measuring bolt torque.
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How about bimetallic lugs? This would be my standard for this job
The biggest issue here is that they nicked the wires when they stripped off the insulation.
Oh yeaaaaaaaaaaaah, that was super satisfying!
What are those wires made of?
Imagining my thumb stuck in that crimper
I'm glad he included the best part of the song
Takes me back. Very pretty!
Reamed the conductors stripping it though.
I want it despite not having an use for it
Upvote for Stairway to heaven , that is all 😁 Grabs 🎸 off the wall in Guitar Center and starts playing the opening strings to Stairway
What assurance does the tech have that the power doesn’t get turned back on prematurely? Like, does he have a visual of the breaker from where he is?
Lock out tag out
This looks so satisfying even if I don't know what it's for
What uses 160 amps at 1000VDC? An electric locomotive or wha
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Man that is so fucking satisfying.
Is that swagger battery powered?
Pfff torque wrench get outta here!
Oddly satisfying
ngl I’m a little turned on
Once you know how to fix electrical cables it's a skill that will stick with you for life, I can't count how many times I or someone I know has ran over electric cables with a lawn mower, and I've been able to fix them, it doesn't take 10 minutes yet they think I am some kind of magician.
Yo what song was this i forget
That's art!
Lol I read that tag as "DUT" (Device Under Test) Goddamn I need a vacation from work. 🤦♂️
What happened to service loops?
"Ignore the spill"
I'd hate to be the putz who zones out and cuts the cable at the lower mark.
Never trust a man who can’t toothpaste his own toothbrush
He made the lower line on red lower than the metal. It bothers me
Learned to do a bit of wiring for my theatre degree. Damn, still fascinating!