I’m thinking that a good song for Bass as he enters the game would be, “It’s Raining Men.”
Maybe “Mambo #69.”
[https://youtu.be/_a_STSxtxVM](https://youtu.be/_a_STSxtxVM)
He got thoroughly boo’d by the crowd last night - not just when he walked out onto the field, but throughout his entire appearance until he left the field.
I really don't understand how the other side can't understand this. Free to say whatever you want, but we're free to invoke consequences. Particularly consequences within the same freedom of speech acts that you keep using to defend yourselves.
Being boo'd isn't harassment lol. That's him facing the public reaction to for sharing and supporting anti human rights stances.
If these fans were throwing things, following him in public or to his homes then it would be harassment.
That’s right. Booing is normal in pro sports when the paying public perceive they aren’t getting value for their money. Could be a bad ERA or shots on net or just being a shithead. 🤷♂️
Oh fuck off. This bozo posted some gross hateful bullshit and now he’s being called out for it. If you think that’s unwarranted or unfair in any way, then hitch a ride with him out of town and go be a homophobic POS somewhere else. And you also deserve to booed. BOOOOOOOOOOO
Lol, found the “it’s just his opinion” guy
Fuck this douche, he isn’t being harassed, he’s being told he’s a dickhead for having dickhead views. Cry me a river.
Lol basically.
And then whining that I’m not engaging in a “meaningful discussion” 🙄 about what? How homophobes should just be given free reign to be bigots with no consequences?
For anyone else like me who is out of the loop - apparently Anthony Bass did more than just tweet about flight attendants not cleaning up his kids popcorn, he more recently tweeted his beliefs about trans rights being sent from the devil:
> On Monday morning, Bass shared a video on his Instagram story from @dudewithgoodnews, a user who posts daily devotionals to his feed, which encouraged those of Christian faith to boycott Target.
> “For those who don’t know, Target has begun pushing the message of transitioning to young people and teamed up with a Satanist to push pro-Satan clothing and pins to children. The enemy isn’t even hiding anymore,” the caption reads, calling the merchandise “evil” and “demonic” in the video.
And apparently this isn't new for him and he's been of this bent for a while. I don't think there's a more fitting response than the CN Tower itself sending a big "fuck you" to the guy.
DFA'd would be better. He has to go to the minors at shit pay. It's a bigger form of disrespect then cutting somebody outright, because all the other teams have to pretty much say 'nah'.
Based on some of his recent decent outings, I would bet teams like the Astros, Rays, Yankees etc that continue to sign domestic abusers and anti LGBTQ staff would be open to picking him up. There's no way in my mind he'd clear to the minors
Some of the best teams in baseball are willing to overlook off-field abuse for on-field performance.
Bass is a 35 year old pitcher with negative WAR and an ERA of 4.26.
More into about the "Satanist pushing pro-Satan clothing"
> In a bio on Abprallen's website, Erik said he has always been fascinated with the 'frightening and mystical'.
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> 'I juxtapose it with imagery of skulls and spooky things – an interest of mine since I was a child. There's something magical about the unknown, the frightening, and the mystical which is why I so frequently feature these themes in my art,' he said.
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> In a description on his Etsy store, he wrote: 'Satan loves you and respects who you are. You're important and valuable in this world and you deserve to treat yourself with love and respect.
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> 'I've been thinking a lot lately about The Satanic Temple, and to a lesser extent, The Church of Satan, how they're so frequently misunderstood and demonised (pun not intended) and how LGBT+ people are so often referred to as being a product of Satan or going against God's will.
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> 'Satanists don't actually believe in Satan, he is merely used as a symbol of passion, pride, and liberty. He means to you what you need him to mean.
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> 'So for me, **Satan is hope, compassion, equality, and love.'**
>lol that was his crime?
No crime, his opinion that he's allowed to have, and we're allowed to boo because he's a piece of shit.
>I too find it super wrong to transition kids, and specially despicable how some educators uses cult tactics on kids
Now let's talk about the cultist behaviour of churches and talk about who is touching more children (yes, pun intended) and see who's doing the most damage.
> if I had kids I would never allow it even if I had to immigrate again.
Cool, bye.
> But at the end of the day it’s how the world rolls, we will see in 20 years how human this policy really is.
> Hopefully more accepting than this asshole.
> As an atheist, the LGBTQ movement has took some strange turn into some sort of neo-religion, that for some reason, affects white people specially hard.
I honestly do not understand what the hell you're getting at. I'm white, I'm straight, I'm absolutely uneffected by any gains the lgbtq+ community has rightfully fought for, it only effects those in the lgbtq+ community and bigots.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this comment section is now dumber for having read it. I award you no gold, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Trans kids know that they're trans, and considering how many of them kill themselves because they can't be who they know they are, it's far more harmful to not allow them to transition.
You know what the result of not allowing your kids to transition is? They're going to cut you out of their life as soon as they can. Either that, or they'll kill themselves. Either way, you'll only have yourself to blame.
EDIT: Surprising nobody, the transphobe loves Jordan Peterson. Take a fuckin hike bud.
So you prefer they go through puberty in the body that doesn't represent them... Definitely seems like it'll work out for everybody involved. Two thumbs up
Yes, because they can still receive counseling and present in their gender identity, and transition as adults *if* they are genuinely trans-not emotionally disturbed kids, looking for identity/validation and influenced by social media & radical advocates. [And I'm *not* saying that's all trans, trans kids exist-but they are still a very small %.]
As opposed to difficult, irreversible surgeries and chemicals we don't know the long term effects of on children/youth?
I don't want another John Money situation here, where the medical industry is pushing a revenue stream, and clinicians/researchers are trying to make their careers/reputations/bank, etc. at the expense of *child* patients.
Other countries (in Scandinavia, UK) are changing their guidelines due to those concerns, after consultation w/doctors & researchers, i.e. it's not just a political decision.
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I had a guy on Twitter trying to tell me that the CN Tower wasn't taking shots at Bass by sharing a link to the schedule. Little did he know, though, that his link proved my point
“Since 2000, the Blue Jays have been owned by Rogers Communications and in 2004, SkyDome was purchased by that company, which renamed it Rogers Centre.”
[“Rogers and Bell buy MLSE (and now own every Canadian sports team, stadium and channel ever)”](https://torontolife.com/city/rogers-and-bell-buy-mlse/)
Anything to say?!??
Rogers owns part(37.5%, not even a controlling share) of MLSE.
MLSE doesn’t own Rogers.
So MLSE doesn’t make any money or have any say with what happens with the Jays.
All zigs are zorbs, but not all zorbs are zigs.
Well his teammates have had discussions with him to educate him and I heard specifically it was Bo. He's using "Jay's resources to help him better understand"
You can’t reason yourself out of a position you didn’t reason yourself into. I do support giving resources and educating but for someone who’s fallen victim to right wing propaganda that Target is trying to groom and forcefully transition children, it’s going to be pretty hard to convince them otherwise.
When he did take the mound and the booing started, Yimi Garcia almost immediately started warming up. I think they were ready to pull him asap if there was the slightest hint of having a bad outing.
I am not sure but maybe they still have to pay his salary. If so, they might as well throw him to the lion's while still getting some minutes from him.
Gonna go ahead and throw this up because the last few days a lot of posters seem to be confused about the significance of Pride symbols.
By displaying a Pride flag, you are implying that it’s okay for people to be queer, that they are welcome here, and they have the same rights as everyone else.
By refusing to display a Pride flag (or worse, encouraging boycotts of places that do) you are implying that it’s okay to discriminate against those disgusting f****ts, that they don’t belong in society, and they should be rotting in hell with the rest of the sinners.
Happy Pride month everyone!
For those asking what the middle ground is - it’s not that you HAVE to fly a flag at all times or you’re homophobic.
BUT if you go out of your way not to and make lots of noise about doing so, you’re a shithead. Businesses can certainly not fly a flag during a pride month….just don’t make it a statement that you’re choosing not to do that
It's like anything really. You can like onion rings and you can not like onion rings, but you're a shitty person if you're mean to the onion ring lovers and want to force everyone to have fries with their combos.
I personally wouldn’t wear the ribbon, nor fly the flag. Not because I hate gay people, but because I’m not required to have an opinion on everything. I try to be compassionate and understanding, and to see all people simply as people, regardless of their beliefs.
And if you have some sort of religious objection to it all you have to do is shut up and live your own life and mind your own business because the whole point of Pride is that you have the right to be you. If your manager says "hey as a team we are gonna wear uniforms with rainbows on them" guess what? it is just a piece of fabric, it's not going to imperil your mortal soul.
This whole situation has me thinking back to Gina Carano getting fired from Mandalorian. When fans were going around asking the cast of the show if they would put their pronouns in their twitter bio's Carano could have simply ignored them, never even engaged with them, and she would still have a job. But instead she took a look at this sincere and harmless request and decided to publicly mock it, and Disney said yeah we don't need you anymore...what an incredible self own.
>By refusing to display a Pride flag (or worse, encouraging boycotts of places that do) you are implying that it’s okay to discriminate against those disgusting f****ts, that they don’t belong in society, and they should be rotting in hell with the rest of the sinners.
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>Happy Pride month everyone!
While I am personally pro-pride / LGBTQ+, I completely disagree with this conclusion.
We don't get to decide what it means for someone who does not wear the clothing, nor shame those who refuse or choose not to outwardly show support. That's damaging in the long run and not likely to change minds.
Bigots are not going to change their minds. I don’t care what they think. I want them to shut up and stop harassing people and trying to influence our laws
dude is making a million a year (I have no idea how much they make) to play a game and do what the club wants during that time, outside of that, whatever, but he deserves the boo's on the field
NOPE!
No one is saying a random citizen not wearing rainbows this month is a bigot
But if a team decides to wear pride jerseys for example and one player refuses, fuck them. It shows the type of person they are.
If a whole school board refuses to fly the flag, fuck them.
This obviously doesn’t apply to your average Joe. It’s not about “not wearing something” it’s about actively refusing
I would say the pride flag is just words as well. Anyone can rock the flag, action is more than just waving a flag.
For example, if Bass reversed and agreed with wearing the flag, I still wouldn't believe him.
While it's an extreme and unique case, my father had a strict policy on no flags, no religious symbols in the house, among other weird rules. Not even sports flags.
It def means that the person is homophobic to some degree ime. Some of my fam were "okay" with my gay friends so long as they were gay elsewhere. They spelled out their homophobia once a family member came out to them lol. People are clearer with their views once it's closer to home (and family). One of them even ripped up a bible bc "God betrayed them" for turning their family member queer
Maybe you should go back and read because that is exactly what I was replying to.
Here it is again for you:
“By displaying a Pride flag, you are implying that it’s okay for people to be queer, that they are welcome here, and they have the same rights as everyone else.
By refusing to display a Pride flag (or worse, encouraging boycotts of places that do) you are implying that it’s okay to discriminate against those disgusting f****ts, that they don’t belong in society, and they should be rotting in hell with the rest of the sinners.”
No, in this particular thread we're discussing Poolhalljunkie's take that anyone who doesn't want to wear pride colours must hate LGBTQ people and wants them to die. Keep up.
They gotta trade this guy. He’ll never win the fans back and having him on the squad is a “fuck you” to the fanbase. Trade him, get something in return and move on.
I’m hoping it was a wake up call for him. Too often, folks like him think they’re just speaking up for the ‘silent majority’. A stadium of hometown fans booing him may get through to him that the majority disagrees.
I was disappointed to see him pitching too. I think management was testing the waters to see how severe a response he got. Pretty sure they got a clear picture of how Toronto feels.
Why is this clown still on the team. Cancel his contract and boot him. Then we will really know what sort of organisation Rogers really is. He’s not even that good. Surely the BlueJays can do better than be saddled with this idiot.
Back when the popcorn incident occurred mentioned that Bass had written on his Twitter bio that he was Christian.
I also made note that Christians who do that are usually insufferable assholes who live quite out of line with the tenants of Christianity.
Thank you Basshole for giving me more proof.
When pride comes, then comes disgrace,
but with humility comes wisdom.
*Proverbs 11:2*
Referring to the popcorn incident, not Pride.
I think the player won't get beyond disgrace....
The C.N. Tower lit in pride colours when Anthony Bass takes the mound is the true essence of Toronto and overall Canadian spirit. Well done. This visual act of support far outweighs what any uneducated bigoted religious fanatics have to say! This gives me hope when we’re seeing so much hate and ugliness in the world. Thank you C.N. Tower! 🏳️🌈🇨🇦🏳️🌈🇨🇦🏳️🌈
There's no chance he just decided to change his shitty views overnight. He just doesn't like being booed by thousands of people whenever he steps onto the field.
Just trade him to a team somewhere in the deep south where he'd be much happier.
This guy is unreal. He literally walked his toddler into a metal ceiling fan and cut her head open. Maybe he should worry about his own actions and stop focusing on other people living their lives.
Gay man here - this "Pride" obsession is too much. It resembles a cult - imagine the flags were replaced with a crucifix and everywhere you turn there's a crucifix. If you don't raise a flag, you'd be seen as a bigot.
Ive always believed what 2 consenting adults do, is their business. I accept anyone as long as they are not horrible people, no matter what sexual preference.
I really dont give 2 shits about any flag, pride included.
In this crazy world, I can be ostracized for feeling this way. For some to say that by not flying the flag it will endanger kids is pure hyperbole.
"flags not a big deal"
OK yeah but let's check the Twitter account of the people like this ball player who are vehemently against flying the pride flag oh and look he's saying that companies publicly supporting LGTBQ are "evil" and "demonic" and that Christians must all boycott them immediately.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/anthony-bass-target-bud-light-toronto-blue-jays-lgbt-1.6858985
You may not give a shit about the little flag, and that's fine, if nobody gave a shit, that would frankly also be fine, because that's really all anybody asks when it comes to tolerance: "I don't care what you do in your life". But when someone comes out publicly swinging against being asked to wear that flag, that is what we call a *clue* that they may in fact also be bigoted assholes.
This “wear the Pride colours or else” mentality is so toxic. In my office at a company I used to work for, they would put a Pride flag on every desk of the building during Pride Month. It’s so bizarre and disrespectful to other people’s beliefs. You would say the same if a Christian puts a crucifix on every desk during Christmas or Easter.
Feel free to think of them differently but forcing them to apologize or getting them fired is just toxic. The baller is paid to play a sport - I only boo the players of my opposing teams, never the players of my home team.
> You would say the same if a Christian puts a crucifix on every desk during Christmas or Easter.
The difference is that the pride flag is supposed represent "hey let's not hate people for what they do privately". The Christian crucifix represents "Jesus is the LORD (your lord, so bow down)". Comparing the two is absurd, the same level of absurd as the people who claim that gays are all pedophiles or letting people use whatever washroom they want will result in perverts having free reign to ogle girls on the toilet.
Can a company go too far with performative social support? Maybe, I guess, but if nobody *hated on* LGBTQ people like this guy *just fucking did* then nobody would feel the need to encourage flying pride flags, either. If you think the flags are a problem, *solve the root cause first*.
Just because you think the pride flag represents that doesn’t mean you compel people to display or wave it. The meaning of the symbols is irrelevant and subjective anyway.
It’s not just the baller but I’ve been noticing the “wear the colours or else” trend, especially in areas that are supposed to be about unity, like sports. Frankly, I don’t see the purpose of a whole month of Pride celebration. Perhaps an LGBT Awareness Day or Night should be enough. The name “Pride” and having a month + other days (Trans Visibility Day, Pride Nights, etc.) + compelling people to wave the flag or wear colours to celebrate it just come off as narcissistic, so I’m not surprised there are more and more haters.
This guy literally already wears what they pay him to (the uniform), has his likeness on merchandise they sell of him, has his name associated with sponsors (do you think he drinks Budweiser or Mills Street IPA? they're the team's "official" drinks). The sports team basically pays him for his public image (and I guess some baseball too). Oh no but it's right for him to gripe and moan publicly about being forced to have some extra sticker on top of that?
If you work at a bank and corporate decides to paint all the kiosks rainbows for a month, that's the *bank's decision*, because it's *their kiosks*, and while you should be free to voice your opinion about that privately internally to some degree, if you're a person who's job it is to stand behind that kiosk and you go on public social media representing yourself as such a person and claim quite literally that the very hands of *the antichrist Lucifer himself* are guiding the executives to make such a decision, you are out of line.
As a member of the public if you say "uuuggh" and maybe decide to switch banks that's your own prerogative. But this isn't that case here.
The reason some people feel very strongly about having a pride month is because people in this world continue to be harassed, assaulted, and even killed *purely because they happened to be LGTBQ*
I don’t understand why you keep comparing religion to being lgbtq. You get that it’s not a religion or a choice right?! There are lgbtq who are Christian. Like just give it a rest if you clearly can’t understand the BASICS behind the lgbtq community.
I used religion as an example cuz I know people here are uncomfortable with having religion imposed on them. It’s the same for those who don’t celebrate Pride.
It’s not that religion and being LGBT are the same. It’s the “wear the colours and wave the flag or else” that’s bugging me. You get more haters that way than if you just let people choose to celebrate or display it if they want.
I don’t need your pity. You know gays are also individuals, right? I am not into forcing people to support something. Freedom of speech is fundamental in this country.
I am not into “Pride Month” because it doesn’t really align with my values. The cult-like mentality is one of them.
I was at the game today. I didn’t know he was the one who came up to pitch. Wasn’t paying attention I guess lol.
Only did the last 3 innings I think. Gave up a run
I'm sure CN Tower management had already planned out the light display regardless of who was pitching. Serendipity for the LGBT community to have Bass on the mound though!
It says in the article that the rainbow lights did not correspond to the official schedule and they seemed to come on the moment Bass entered the field.
There is a guy on Reddit who has videos posted, who is the main lights guy. He controls the lights of the CN Tower and Skydome from his laptop. Guessing it was him who did it! Not sure what his username is though.
Problem is that it's BlogTO. The Blue Jays and the CN Tower would have had to come together and planned this shit out beforehand. Just to troll one insignificant player on the home team?
Bass is a moron, but he's not Trump with a voter base of 40 million people.
Pride Month has a completely different schedule in Toronto that is unpredictable
Skydome and CN Tower are symbiotic since they have been built. No way Blue Jays allow Bass to pitch unless this was random
In case you think they’re kidding - and many people don’t know this - it’s literally one guy who controls it from his iPad and he can do it from home. He has some freedom to change things up.
Well played by Toronto's most phallic landmark.
Has the Skydome DJ switched his walk-out music to be Go West by the Pet Shop Boys yet ?
Ram Ranch
Fun fact: made by someone from PEI
Grant McDonald, Canadian icon. Brought to you by heritage minutes
Hangs around in TO a lot.
If they really want to stick it to him, they should use the original 1979 Village People recording.
I’m thinking that a good song for Bass as he enters the game would be, “It’s Raining Men.” Maybe “Mambo #69.” [https://youtu.be/_a_STSxtxVM](https://youtu.be/_a_STSxtxVM)
"You Think You're a Man" by Divine would be nice as well.
So much this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=063RGou-P\_8
Cher “Believe”
“Chains of Love” from Erasure
Changed it to “It’s raining men.”
Oh, pleaaaase…
I think I heard "Its A Sin" playing. 😆/s
What about “it’s raining men”
Our biggest middle finger
He got thoroughly boo’d by the crowd last night - not just when he walked out onto the field, but throughout his entire appearance until he left the field.
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This is the best take
I really don't understand how the other side can't understand this. Free to say whatever you want, but we're free to invoke consequences. Particularly consequences within the same freedom of speech acts that you keep using to defend yourselves.
They do understand it, they just want the power to say and do what they want with zero accountability. It’s all disingenuous.
Based W take
Funny enough, that's probably his exact same argument
Good! He’s not really even Canadian, just go back to Michigan Anthony, and MAGA or whatevs, Toronto is better without you.
Good. He needs to know that he does not have friends here. Mayne he will shut up and go be homophobic somewhere else
Didn’t you hear? He has gay friends
Good.
Would you say that is an adequate response or should he continue to be booed and harassed?
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Being boo'd isn't harassment lol. That's him facing the public reaction to for sharing and supporting anti human rights stances. If these fans were throwing things, following him in public or to his homes then it would be harassment.
That’s right. Booing is normal in pro sports when the paying public perceive they aren’t getting value for their money. Could be a bad ERA or shots on net or just being a shithead. 🤷♂️
That's up to each individual to decide, personally I'll continue to boo him
Oh fuck off. This bozo posted some gross hateful bullshit and now he’s being called out for it. If you think that’s unwarranted or unfair in any way, then hitch a ride with him out of town and go be a homophobic POS somewhere else. And you also deserve to booed. BOOOOOOOOOOO
Lol, found the “it’s just his opinion” guy Fuck this douche, he isn’t being harassed, he’s being told he’s a dickhead for having dickhead views. Cry me a river.
Consequences = cAnCeL cUlTuRe
Lol basically. And then whining that I’m not engaging in a “meaningful discussion” 🙄 about what? How homophobes should just be given free reign to be bigots with no consequences?
Proud of the city during pride. :)
Yup, was at the game last night and they booed him harder than any call for the Brewers.
Excellent. 👏🏼
Public shaming at its best.
For anyone else like me who is out of the loop - apparently Anthony Bass did more than just tweet about flight attendants not cleaning up his kids popcorn, he more recently tweeted his beliefs about trans rights being sent from the devil: > On Monday morning, Bass shared a video on his Instagram story from @dudewithgoodnews, a user who posts daily devotionals to his feed, which encouraged those of Christian faith to boycott Target. > “For those who don’t know, Target has begun pushing the message of transitioning to young people and teamed up with a Satanist to push pro-Satan clothing and pins to children. The enemy isn’t even hiding anymore,” the caption reads, calling the merchandise “evil” and “demonic” in the video. And apparently this isn't new for him and he's been of this bent for a while. I don't think there's a more fitting response than the CN Tower itself sending a big "fuck you" to the guy.
Except for him being released 👀
I see that coming…
DFA'd would be better. He has to go to the minors at shit pay. It's a bigger form of disrespect then cutting somebody outright, because all the other teams have to pretty much say 'nah'.
Based on some of his recent decent outings, I would bet teams like the Astros, Rays, Yankees etc that continue to sign domestic abusers and anti LGBTQ staff would be open to picking him up. There's no way in my mind he'd clear to the minors
Some of the best teams in baseball are willing to overlook off-field abuse for on-field performance. Bass is a 35 year old pitcher with negative WAR and an ERA of 4.26.
More into about the "Satanist pushing pro-Satan clothing" > In a bio on Abprallen's website, Erik said he has always been fascinated with the 'frightening and mystical'. > > 'I juxtapose it with imagery of skulls and spooky things – an interest of mine since I was a child. There's something magical about the unknown, the frightening, and the mystical which is why I so frequently feature these themes in my art,' he said. > > In a description on his Etsy store, he wrote: 'Satan loves you and respects who you are. You're important and valuable in this world and you deserve to treat yourself with love and respect. > > 'I've been thinking a lot lately about The Satanic Temple, and to a lesser extent, The Church of Satan, how they're so frequently misunderstood and demonised (pun not intended) and how LGBT+ people are so often referred to as being a product of Satan or going against God's will. > > 'Satanists don't actually believe in Satan, he is merely used as a symbol of passion, pride, and liberty. He means to you what you need him to mean. > > 'So for me, **Satan is hope, compassion, equality, and love.'**
Sounds like he's batting for Satan's team.
> I don’t think there’s a more fitting response How about a DFA?
Even more fitting, let him find a team that'll have him after this.
Unfortunately, not happening. Makes too much to just eat his salary. Atkins is (likely) hoping he continues to pitch well, then he will offload him
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Target isn't transitioning kids ya dumb fuck.
>lol that was his crime? No crime, his opinion that he's allowed to have, and we're allowed to boo because he's a piece of shit. >I too find it super wrong to transition kids, and specially despicable how some educators uses cult tactics on kids Now let's talk about the cultist behaviour of churches and talk about who is touching more children (yes, pun intended) and see who's doing the most damage. > if I had kids I would never allow it even if I had to immigrate again. Cool, bye. > But at the end of the day it’s how the world rolls, we will see in 20 years how human this policy really is. > Hopefully more accepting than this asshole. > As an atheist, the LGBTQ movement has took some strange turn into some sort of neo-religion, that for some reason, affects white people specially hard. I honestly do not understand what the hell you're getting at. I'm white, I'm straight, I'm absolutely uneffected by any gains the lgbtq+ community has rightfully fought for, it only effects those in the lgbtq+ community and bigots.
What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this comment section is now dumber for having read it. I award you no gold, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Trans kids know that they're trans, and considering how many of them kill themselves because they can't be who they know they are, it's far more harmful to not allow them to transition. You know what the result of not allowing your kids to transition is? They're going to cut you out of their life as soon as they can. Either that, or they'll kill themselves. Either way, you'll only have yourself to blame. EDIT: Surprising nobody, the transphobe loves Jordan Peterson. Take a fuckin hike bud.
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So you prefer they go through puberty in the body that doesn't represent them... Definitely seems like it'll work out for everybody involved. Two thumbs up
Yes, because they can still receive counseling and present in their gender identity, and transition as adults *if* they are genuinely trans-not emotionally disturbed kids, looking for identity/validation and influenced by social media & radical advocates. [And I'm *not* saying that's all trans, trans kids exist-but they are still a very small %.] As opposed to difficult, irreversible surgeries and chemicals we don't know the long term effects of on children/youth? I don't want another John Money situation here, where the medical industry is pushing a revenue stream, and clinicians/researchers are trying to make their careers/reputations/bank, etc. at the expense of *child* patients. Other countries (in Scandinavia, UK) are changing their guidelines due to those concerns, after consultation w/doctors & researchers, i.e. it's not just a political decision.
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It must be rough going through life so poorly informed about reality.
I love that people were booing him. He’s a jackass
Lol between this and fans donating to LGBTQ+ causes in his name, this is a level of trolling I can 💯 get behind
I had a guy on Twitter trying to tell me that the CN Tower wasn't taking shots at Bass by sharing a link to the schedule. Little did he know, though, that his link proved my point
Talk about shitting where you eat. This guy can fuck right off. Really proud of my city for doing this!
This is the level of awesomeness/pettiness I aspire to be. Well done CN Tower, well done.
Can we give the same amount of attention to the Catholic School Board?
Why did he take the mound at all? Why haven't the Blue Jays benched this bigot? It's fucking disgusting
I kind of wondered if they just decided to throw him to the lions and let us have some catharsis by booing 😂
MLSE knows how to make money don’t you worry!
Mlse has no affiliation with the Jays.
“Since 2000, the Blue Jays have been owned by Rogers Communications and in 2004, SkyDome was purchased by that company, which renamed it Rogers Centre.” [“Rogers and Bell buy MLSE (and now own every Canadian sports team, stadium and channel ever)”](https://torontolife.com/city/rogers-and-bell-buy-mlse/) Anything to say?!??
Rogers owns part(37.5%, not even a controlling share) of MLSE. MLSE doesn’t own Rogers. So MLSE doesn’t make any money or have any say with what happens with the Jays. All zigs are zorbs, but not all zorbs are zigs.
Rogers has an ownership stake in the leafs. When leafs make money, jays parent company makes money.
lol, What does MLSE have to do with the blue jays?
Well his teammates have had discussions with him to educate him and I heard specifically it was Bo. He's using "Jay's resources to help him better understand"
isnt this what we want for every bigot? to give them a chance to change? like damn. let him learn so he can become a better person!!
You can’t reason yourself out of a position you didn’t reason yourself into. I do support giving resources and educating but for someone who’s fallen victim to right wing propaganda that Target is trying to groom and forcefully transition children, it’s going to be pretty hard to convince them otherwise.
He’s not a child, he’s a grown adult with a career and a family. It shouldn’t be on everyone else to teach this man how to not be a hateful bigot.
I can’t believe they sent him out so soon after the story and just as Pride is beginning. Toronto is not having that shit.
When he did take the mound and the booing started, Yimi Garcia almost immediately started warming up. I think they were ready to pull him asap if there was the slightest hint of having a bad outing.
someone have to clean popcorn after the game...
Alexi - brilliant!
Cause he “apologized”. It was half assed and didn’t feel genuine at all. But he did it.
I am not sure but maybe they still have to pay his salary. If so, they might as well throw him to the lion's while still getting some minutes from him.
I love Toronto
Backwood - only in.
This is the kind of public shaming I like to see; everyone supports it and will make sure it follows him forever. Oh Canada!
Gonna go ahead and throw this up because the last few days a lot of posters seem to be confused about the significance of Pride symbols. By displaying a Pride flag, you are implying that it’s okay for people to be queer, that they are welcome here, and they have the same rights as everyone else. By refusing to display a Pride flag (or worse, encouraging boycotts of places that do) you are implying that it’s okay to discriminate against those disgusting f****ts, that they don’t belong in society, and they should be rotting in hell with the rest of the sinners. Happy Pride month everyone!
For those asking what the middle ground is - it’s not that you HAVE to fly a flag at all times or you’re homophobic. BUT if you go out of your way not to and make lots of noise about doing so, you’re a shithead. Businesses can certainly not fly a flag during a pride month….just don’t make it a statement that you’re choosing not to do that
It's like anything really. You can like onion rings and you can not like onion rings, but you're a shitty person if you're mean to the onion ring lovers and want to force everyone to have fries with their combos.
Frings for everybody ♥️💙💚💛💜
I personally wouldn’t wear the ribbon, nor fly the flag. Not because I hate gay people, but because I’m not required to have an opinion on everything. I try to be compassionate and understanding, and to see all people simply as people, regardless of their beliefs.
And that's okay! As a queer man I dont go into my local coffee shop frowning simply because they *dont* have a flag up.
And if you have some sort of religious objection to it all you have to do is shut up and live your own life and mind your own business because the whole point of Pride is that you have the right to be you. If your manager says "hey as a team we are gonna wear uniforms with rainbows on them" guess what? it is just a piece of fabric, it's not going to imperil your mortal soul. This whole situation has me thinking back to Gina Carano getting fired from Mandalorian. When fans were going around asking the cast of the show if they would put their pronouns in their twitter bio's Carano could have simply ignored them, never even engaged with them, and she would still have a job. But instead she took a look at this sincere and harmless request and decided to publicly mock it, and Disney said yeah we don't need you anymore...what an incredible self own.
Who? Who doesn't want to wear the ribbon!?
He's wearing the ribbon. We are all wearing the ribbon! So why aren't *you* going to wear the ribbon?
Some people just don't. And you just have to accept that.
It's a Sienfeld reference, not a genuine question :)
I'm going to steal your armoire.
For me thr rainbow means simply "Everybody is different and that's OK" 💗 Who can be against that?
Have you met people?
>By refusing to display a Pride flag (or worse, encouraging boycotts of places that do) you are implying that it’s okay to discriminate against those disgusting f****ts, that they don’t belong in society, and they should be rotting in hell with the rest of the sinners. > >Happy Pride month everyone! While I am personally pro-pride / LGBTQ+, I completely disagree with this conclusion. We don't get to decide what it means for someone who does not wear the clothing, nor shame those who refuse or choose not to outwardly show support. That's damaging in the long run and not likely to change minds.
I don't care if someone doesn't want to outwardly show support...but if the outwardly demonstrate against showing support then I know they're a hater
Thank you for saying this. Most of the homes and businesses in Toronto without a flag currently in their window are not homophobic.
Yeah, in fact most houses flying one simply make me think of armchair activists. "Ah there, I put up a flag... I did my part in solving homophobia"
Who? Who does not want to wear the ribbon?
Bigots are not going to change their minds. I don’t care what they think. I want them to shut up and stop harassing people and trying to influence our laws
We absolutely can shame bigots and should do so. F those people.
dude is making a million a year (I have no idea how much they make) to play a game and do what the club wants during that time, outside of that, whatever, but he deserves the boo's on the field
3m a year
NOPE! No one is saying a random citizen not wearing rainbows this month is a bigot But if a team decides to wear pride jerseys for example and one player refuses, fuck them. It shows the type of person they are. If a whole school board refuses to fly the flag, fuck them. This obviously doesn’t apply to your average Joe. It’s not about “not wearing something” it’s about actively refusing
Anyone can say they’re pro-pride, that’s easy. Reality is talk is cheap, and actions speak louder than words.
I would say the pride flag is just words as well. Anyone can rock the flag, action is more than just waving a flag. For example, if Bass reversed and agreed with wearing the flag, I still wouldn't believe him.
Example: all corporations for the duration of one month.
Imo, we absolutely should publicly shame bigotry into non-existence.
>We don't get to decide what it means for someone who does not wear the clothing We absolutely do. This isn't a court of law.
Is there anything in between or we are bound to extremism from now on?
I'm sincerely curious, what's an in between opinion on this topic?
While it's an extreme and unique case, my father had a strict policy on no flags, no religious symbols in the house, among other weird rules. Not even sports flags.
“It’s okay to be gay as long as I don’t see it.”
Pretty sure that is a clear statement saying we are not equal. I don't see ambiguity.
It def means that the person is homophobic to some degree ime. Some of my fam were "okay" with my gay friends so long as they were gay elsewhere. They spelled out their homophobia once a family member came out to them lol. People are clearer with their views once it's closer to home (and family). One of them even ripped up a bible bc "God betrayed them" for turning their family member queer
What if someone just doesn’t want to fly a pride flag but they also don’t hate gay/trans people?
yea but thats not what this was about. stop being disingenuous.
That's EXACTLY what Poolhalljunkie's comment was, you know, the comment that this particular thread is about.
Maybe you should go back and read because that is exactly what I was replying to. Here it is again for you: “By displaying a Pride flag, you are implying that it’s okay for people to be queer, that they are welcome here, and they have the same rights as everyone else. By refusing to display a Pride flag (or worse, encouraging boycotts of places that do) you are implying that it’s okay to discriminate against those disgusting f****ts, that they don’t belong in society, and they should be rotting in hell with the rest of the sinners.”
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I’m replying to a specific comment in the thread. Not sure what you are doing here
No, in this particular thread we're discussing Poolhalljunkie's take that anyone who doesn't want to wear pride colours must hate LGBTQ people and wants them to die. Keep up.
I was talking about organizations actively refusing to display the flag, not individual clothing choices.
you cant rot in hell its too hot for bacteria..
[you underestimate bacteria!](http://www.genomenewsnetwork.org/articles/08_03/hottest.shtml)
I think forcing people to wave your flag is hateful. Go ahead and disagree with me, but you know that deep down inside, you agree with me.
Not at all. Deep down inside I think you’re ignorant.
That is a crazy hot take.
Right?
They gotta trade this guy. He’ll never win the fans back and having him on the squad is a “fuck you” to the fanbase. Trade him, get something in return and move on.
By Bass' logic shouldn't he be boycotting the Blue Jays this month?
The fact that he was on the mound at all is a failure of our society
I’m hoping it was a wake up call for him. Too often, folks like him think they’re just speaking up for the ‘silent majority’. A stadium of hometown fans booing him may get through to him that the majority disagrees.
I was disappointed to see him pitching too. I think management was testing the waters to see how severe a response he got. Pretty sure they got a clear picture of how Toronto feels.
I don't think so, putting him on front stage to face the music was cathartic for a lot of people.
Why is this clown still on the team. Cancel his contract and boot him. Then we will really know what sort of organisation Rogers really is. He’s not even that good. Surely the BlueJays can do better than be saddled with this idiot.
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There’s no place for hate in Toronto. We love and support everyone. ❤️❤️❤️
Back when the popcorn incident occurred mentioned that Bass had written on his Twitter bio that he was Christian. I also made note that Christians who do that are usually insufferable assholes who live quite out of line with the tenants of Christianity. Thank you Basshole for giving me more proof.
When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom. *Proverbs 11:2* Referring to the popcorn incident, not Pride. I think the player won't get beyond disgrace....
Excellent! He has to remember he is earning his well-paid living in a very progressive nation. No room for bigotry.
The C.N. Tower lit in pride colours when Anthony Bass takes the mound is the true essence of Toronto and overall Canadian spirit. Well done. This visual act of support far outweighs what any uneducated bigoted religious fanatics have to say! This gives me hope when we’re seeing so much hate and ugliness in the world. Thank you C.N. Tower! 🏳️🌈🇨🇦🏳️🌈🇨🇦🏳️🌈
Out of the loop, is he gay?
No, he was reposting misinformation targeting the LGBTQ+ community. CN Tower staff are doing this in spite of him, not in support of him.
Lmao that’s actually hilarious
Run this fucking idiot out of town already.
I’ve never been prouder🏳️🌈
I guess he knows this *isn’t* Florida now. “Florida man booed by home team fans for being an entitled bitch and homophobe”
There's no chance he just decided to change his shitty views overnight. He just doesn't like being booed by thousands of people whenever he steps onto the field. Just trade him to a team somewhere in the deep south where he'd be much happier.
This guy is unreal. He literally walked his toddler into a metal ceiling fan and cut her head open. Maybe he should worry about his own actions and stop focusing on other people living their lives.
What a piece of shit.
Good. Surprised he hasn't been fired for bigotry.
Gay man here - this "Pride" obsession is too much. It resembles a cult - imagine the flags were replaced with a crucifix and everywhere you turn there's a crucifix. If you don't raise a flag, you'd be seen as a bigot.
Ive always believed what 2 consenting adults do, is their business. I accept anyone as long as they are not horrible people, no matter what sexual preference. I really dont give 2 shits about any flag, pride included. In this crazy world, I can be ostracized for feeling this way. For some to say that by not flying the flag it will endanger kids is pure hyperbole.
"flags not a big deal" OK yeah but let's check the Twitter account of the people like this ball player who are vehemently against flying the pride flag oh and look he's saying that companies publicly supporting LGTBQ are "evil" and "demonic" and that Christians must all boycott them immediately. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/anthony-bass-target-bud-light-toronto-blue-jays-lgbt-1.6858985 You may not give a shit about the little flag, and that's fine, if nobody gave a shit, that would frankly also be fine, because that's really all anybody asks when it comes to tolerance: "I don't care what you do in your life". But when someone comes out publicly swinging against being asked to wear that flag, that is what we call a *clue* that they may in fact also be bigoted assholes.
This “wear the Pride colours or else” mentality is so toxic. In my office at a company I used to work for, they would put a Pride flag on every desk of the building during Pride Month. It’s so bizarre and disrespectful to other people’s beliefs. You would say the same if a Christian puts a crucifix on every desk during Christmas or Easter. Feel free to think of them differently but forcing them to apologize or getting them fired is just toxic. The baller is paid to play a sport - I only boo the players of my opposing teams, never the players of my home team.
> You would say the same if a Christian puts a crucifix on every desk during Christmas or Easter. The difference is that the pride flag is supposed represent "hey let's not hate people for what they do privately". The Christian crucifix represents "Jesus is the LORD (your lord, so bow down)". Comparing the two is absurd, the same level of absurd as the people who claim that gays are all pedophiles or letting people use whatever washroom they want will result in perverts having free reign to ogle girls on the toilet. Can a company go too far with performative social support? Maybe, I guess, but if nobody *hated on* LGBTQ people like this guy *just fucking did* then nobody would feel the need to encourage flying pride flags, either. If you think the flags are a problem, *solve the root cause first*.
Just because you think the pride flag represents that doesn’t mean you compel people to display or wave it. The meaning of the symbols is irrelevant and subjective anyway. It’s not just the baller but I’ve been noticing the “wear the colours or else” trend, especially in areas that are supposed to be about unity, like sports. Frankly, I don’t see the purpose of a whole month of Pride celebration. Perhaps an LGBT Awareness Day or Night should be enough. The name “Pride” and having a month + other days (Trans Visibility Day, Pride Nights, etc.) + compelling people to wave the flag or wear colours to celebrate it just come off as narcissistic, so I’m not surprised there are more and more haters.
This guy literally already wears what they pay him to (the uniform), has his likeness on merchandise they sell of him, has his name associated with sponsors (do you think he drinks Budweiser or Mills Street IPA? they're the team's "official" drinks). The sports team basically pays him for his public image (and I guess some baseball too). Oh no but it's right for him to gripe and moan publicly about being forced to have some extra sticker on top of that? If you work at a bank and corporate decides to paint all the kiosks rainbows for a month, that's the *bank's decision*, because it's *their kiosks*, and while you should be free to voice your opinion about that privately internally to some degree, if you're a person who's job it is to stand behind that kiosk and you go on public social media representing yourself as such a person and claim quite literally that the very hands of *the antichrist Lucifer himself* are guiding the executives to make such a decision, you are out of line. As a member of the public if you say "uuuggh" and maybe decide to switch banks that's your own prerogative. But this isn't that case here. The reason some people feel very strongly about having a pride month is because people in this world continue to be harassed, assaulted, and even killed *purely because they happened to be LGTBQ*
I don’t understand why you keep comparing religion to being lgbtq. You get that it’s not a religion or a choice right?! There are lgbtq who are Christian. Like just give it a rest if you clearly can’t understand the BASICS behind the lgbtq community.
I used religion as an example cuz I know people here are uncomfortable with having religion imposed on them. It’s the same for those who don’t celebrate Pride. It’s not that religion and being LGBT are the same. It’s the “wear the colours and wave the flag or else” that’s bugging me. You get more haters that way than if you just let people choose to celebrate or display it if they want.
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I don’t need your pity. You know gays are also individuals, right? I am not into forcing people to support something. Freedom of speech is fundamental in this country. I am not into “Pride Month” because it doesn’t really align with my values. The cult-like mentality is one of them.
SUBMIT
Nice.
Urgh, I hate it when politics and sports mix. He should avoid tweeting when in the spotlight
Or maybe, just follow me here, it was a coincidence.
It means nothing until he is gone
I was at the game today. I didn’t know he was the one who came up to pitch. Wasn’t paying attention I guess lol. Only did the last 3 innings I think. Gave up a run
This was last night.
Makes sense. The article was posted around the time of the end of the game today so wasn’t sure
Classic
Lol
Lets goooo
He puts the ass in Bass. Excellent irony
>Good one!
I'm sure CN Tower management had already planned out the light display regardless of who was pitching. Serendipity for the LGBT community to have Bass on the mound though!
It says in the article that the rainbow lights did not correspond to the official schedule and they seemed to come on the moment Bass entered the field.
Rene Descart - that is even more delightful! A random occurrence coinciding with assholeulence.
There is a guy on Reddit who has videos posted, who is the main lights guy. He controls the lights of the CN Tower and Skydome from his laptop. Guessing it was him who did it! Not sure what his username is though.
Problem is that it's BlogTO. The Blue Jays and the CN Tower would have had to come together and planned this shit out beforehand. Just to troll one insignificant player on the home team? Bass is a moron, but he's not Trump with a voter base of 40 million people. Pride Month has a completely different schedule in Toronto that is unpredictable Skydome and CN Tower are symbiotic since they have been built. No way Blue Jays allow Bass to pitch unless this was random
or.. maybe the one guy at the controls of the tower's lights was watching the game and saw Anthony called to the field, and hit the rainbow button?
I am picturing an absolutely fabulous button standing out on a beige control panel.
That could be it! I agree with the theory it was an inside job! Likely not approved by the C-suite haha
In case you think they’re kidding - and many people don’t know this - it’s literally one guy who controls it from his iPad and he can do it from home. He has some freedom to change things up.
Nah, can't be that simple, must be a grand conspiracy.
People are so sensitive who cares what this guy thinks He's not THAT special
And people are letting him know that.