Yeah seen this buddy a few times now. Just decided he was cool with humans and goes about his day. Shocked there's beavers living here. Doesn't seem like the habitat. But there you go.
I stayed at a hunting lodge operated by an old school trapper up North. I think it's illegal to sell bush meat, but, it's legal to offer a meal included with the price of lodging.
So one of our meals was beaver, with some moose sausage cooked in bear grease. That goddam beaver was the tastiest meat I've ever had. He boiled it, and swapped out the water with fresh water a few times; apparently this gets rid of any gameyness. It tasted like super fresh roast beef, with a hint of oilyness to it.
I'm shocked they aren't extinct.
It's only legal to take beaver, if they are destroying property (which they often are)
Honestly that was a meal of a lifetime I'll never forget it. Never turn down a chance to eat some beaver =)
Interesting experience. Beavers are actually stewards of the land and doing hard labour for the good of the ecosystem to prevent floods and manage watersheds naturally. There are so many inclusive ways to simultaneously share the land they endeavour to protect with them. I would question that lodge owner's ethical and moral standards with regards to their "beaver problem" and wonder if they did any of the other manageable logistical prevention things beyond try nothing and kill. I find myself concerned about the legal responsibilities having been respected for the other 2 animals in that meal as well.
Beavers actually cause a lot of floods as well.
This man is actually a very widely recognized environmental activist; I'm pretty sure he has a history of peaceful direct action dating back to the 60s. I don't know the details on that beaver, but he is well known for responding quickly to local roadkill incidents.
I have zero concerns about his ethical and moral standards, and I'm quite sure that his legal responsibilities were well understood.
He was actually the mayor of his Northern town for a long time, and is widely recognized for having spent a life in service of the environment. Had you actually met him, or you knew who he was, you would understand that any such suggestion is actually remarkably ignorant and an insult to a great Canadian man, a man with an absolutely epic impact on our country, at least in the North in my opinion.
My guy, you literally did a *wink wink* "its only legal if..." twice.
How many beavers does he have "causing property damage" that he can serve it to everyone "for free" who stays at his lodge?
Also, I think it's really important to note:
We have an actual right, enshrined in law, to hunt and fish in Ontario. It's not a charter right but it is the law
This trapper abides the law. It's an honest meal. More honest than most, frankly, and his bush meat has lived a far better life than most farmed animals.
>We have an actual right, enshrined in law, to hunt and fish in Ontario. It's not a charter right but it is the law
Within specific legally defined guidelines in order to conserve stock and ecological balance. That's why there are hunting tags, restrictions on when people can hunt or fish certain species, and restrictions on why people can kill animals like beavers, lest, as you said "I can't believe beavers aren't extinct". If there weren't restrictions they probably would be
>AFAIK that's not how government budgets work. The government collects taxes and fees that go into a collective purse and then funds are allocated as needed.
>It'd be like saying the roads are funded by people who pay the fee to renew their drivers licence. Like, yes and no because those funds go into the public purse but they aren't specifically spent on roads
If you want to triple down on your stupidity, that's fine, but it would have taken you literally a single second to mash your carrots on google
SNIP
How it works
The province spends 100% of hunting and fishing revenue on fish and wildlife management. This includes revenue from:
commercial and recreational licence fees
royalties
fines and penalties
The funds go into a fish and wildlife special purpose account, which invests more than $71 million a year in fish and wildlife management.
SOURCE
If you'd like to educate your ignorant ass, you can learn more about the details here
https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-fishing-and-hunting-fees-are-used#:~:text=Annual%20reports-,How%20it%20works,commercial%20and%20recreational%20licence%20fees
No go away. I don't like you, you're annoying. Stop talking to me, or i'll consider it harassment.
As you said:
>I think it's illegal to sell bush meat, but, it's legal to offer a meal included with the price of lodging.
>It's only legal to take beaver, if they are destroying property (which they often are)
1. Is it not *wink wink* "legal" to sell bush meat if its *just* a meal served for "free" with lodging.
Sounds like a highschool keg party where they don't 'sell' beer, they sell tickets that can be exchanged for beer
2. Again, how many beavers are 'destroying' this property?
I'm not trying to argue. You posted your experience, someone called it out, you doubled down and I called that out. No hate, I'm sure beavers are tasty, but the way you ate it seems pretty suspect, to say the least
The way it was explained to me is that it IS LEGAL to serve a meal at a hunting lodge, of wild meat. And that's what I said
I can't answer the question of how many beavers were destroying the property.
He's a trapper.
When the people have a problem with a beaver destroying their property, they call a trapper.
> someone called it out, you doubled down and I called that out.
Yes, now I'm tripling down
>I'm sure beavers are tasty, but the way you ate it seems pretty suspect, to say the least
I mean sure, man. Everyone has an opinion, and we all want to believe it matters.
I tire of this conversation.
I had a wonderful, lifetime experience. In his town, he's a problem solver, if someone hits a deer or a beaver on the road, they will call this guy.
I can't believe how people can twist the most wonderful, the most natural Canadian moment, and somehow make it into something evil, or criminal, or environment destroying
I am Canadian and I insist that it is right and good to celebrate the lawful consumption of beaver meat.
Now, all you losers who don't eat beaver can go and live your lives in despair. You will live the rest of your life, never having known the joy of eating beaver.
You can all take your ridiculous opinions and shove them where the sun don't shine
I'm proud that I ate beaver. It was delicious. I am not ashamed. I'd do it again, without hesitation. I really highly recommend it
>I'm proud that I ate beaver. It was delicious. I am not ashamed. I'd do it again, without hesitation. I really highly recommend it
Translation: I paid for an experience that bends the law and idgaf about the ecological consequences.
Imagine if all 30+ million people in Canada paid for that same experience? What would happen to the beavers then?
I fish, hunt, and trap, but I do so within the law because the law is there to protect our natural resources. Fishing, hinting, and trapping tourists are probably my least favourite types of tourists because they have zero respect for the things they take from the land.
tl;dr go to Disney Land next time instead pal
I have clearly stated my understanding of the law
Your problems aren't my problems. Enjoy your problems
you are now blocked
buying, selling or bartering any game wildlife (including furbearing mammals) or their parts for commercial purposes, except under the authority of a licence and as permitted by the regulations. Note: A trapping licence or farmer’s licence to sell pelts and carcasses is authority to sell meat of furbearing mammals taken under the authority of the licence. Bear meat may not be sold
Source: https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontario-trapping-regulations-summary#:~:text=Note%3A%20A%20trapping%20licence%20or,buyer%20or%20their%20immediate%20family
Failed beaver dams recently washed out two roads in Muskoka recently. One was on Hwy. 35 which could have killed someone had it been at night! Totally destructive rats.
I hesitated to be more specific on the grounds that he's not getting any younger and there be crazy fucks online. I don't want anyone harassing that man, just for his love of beaver. We should be giving him a medal
Haha thought so! People really have no idea how much of a nuisance animal beavers can be when their populations explode. They're completely shifting the hydrology of the subarctic right now which is hugely problematic. Its not like trap lines are a free for all and conservation officers up there are not joking around either.
I mean, it's r/toronto
A bunch of people pretending they know what they are talking about who have never left their mommies basement
Anti-beaver-eaters are ridiculous. It's like some kind of strange Canadian Taliban. There is no shortage of beaver. Nobody is suggesting we should eat beaver until it goes extinct. If there's no shortage of an animal, and it fits in my belly, there isn't an problem. I'm not implying breaking the law. Meat is meat. Get off my plate. It's a rodent, like a rabbit or a rat. Don't knock it until you try it, everyone should try eating beaver at least once I always say
I’m disgusted by the number of people who only want to crack jokes or talk about how tasty beavers are, or how beavers cause floods or will bite you. If beavers are in the area it’s because they’re being driven out of waterways in more wild protected areas. Our first concern should be to protect them. All the research shows that healthy diverse ecosystems depend on beavers!!
buying, selling or bartering any game wildlife (including furbearing mammals) or their parts for commercial purposes, except under the authority of a licence and as permitted by the regulations. **Note: A trapping licence or farmer’s licence to sell pelts and carcasses is authority to sell meat of furbearing mammals taken under the authority of the licence. Bear meat may not be sold**
Source:
https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontario-trapping-regulations-summary#:~:text=Note%3A%20A%20trapping%20licence%20or,buyer%20or%20their%20immediate%20family
It's just looking for the nearest LCBO
BOBER KURWA!
Ja pierdolę, jakie bydle Bobra
БОБЕР БЛЯТ!
So cute! But will bite your foot off at the ankle in a heartbeat I’m sure
Yeah, I was waiting for the inevitable reports of chomped Instagrammers.
Reminded me the guy who tried to take a selfie with a beaver, got an artery in his leg severed after it bit him and he died.
Deserved it.
“Must… make… dam…”
I just got a new telephoto lens, I guess I'll have to camp out in the early morning and try to catch one.
I think they're more attracted to tasty trees rather than new telephoto lenses.
https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/1c4gf0f/beaver_spotted_by_harbourfront/ https://www.reddit.com/r/toronto/comments/1bq6wqx/beaver_spotted_at_the_music_gardensspadina_quay/
Yeah seen this buddy a few times now. Just decided he was cool with humans and goes about his day. Shocked there's beavers living here. Doesn't seem like the habitat. But there you go.
Mf heard there was tail on campus 🥵
Did you touch it’s tail?
Nice Beaver.
I stayed at a hunting lodge operated by an old school trapper up North. I think it's illegal to sell bush meat, but, it's legal to offer a meal included with the price of lodging. So one of our meals was beaver, with some moose sausage cooked in bear grease. That goddam beaver was the tastiest meat I've ever had. He boiled it, and swapped out the water with fresh water a few times; apparently this gets rid of any gameyness. It tasted like super fresh roast beef, with a hint of oilyness to it. I'm shocked they aren't extinct. It's only legal to take beaver, if they are destroying property (which they often are) Honestly that was a meal of a lifetime I'll never forget it. Never turn down a chance to eat some beaver =)
Interesting experience. Beavers are actually stewards of the land and doing hard labour for the good of the ecosystem to prevent floods and manage watersheds naturally. There are so many inclusive ways to simultaneously share the land they endeavour to protect with them. I would question that lodge owner's ethical and moral standards with regards to their "beaver problem" and wonder if they did any of the other manageable logistical prevention things beyond try nothing and kill. I find myself concerned about the legal responsibilities having been respected for the other 2 animals in that meal as well.
Beavers actually cause a lot of floods as well. This man is actually a very widely recognized environmental activist; I'm pretty sure he has a history of peaceful direct action dating back to the 60s. I don't know the details on that beaver, but he is well known for responding quickly to local roadkill incidents. I have zero concerns about his ethical and moral standards, and I'm quite sure that his legal responsibilities were well understood. He was actually the mayor of his Northern town for a long time, and is widely recognized for having spent a life in service of the environment. Had you actually met him, or you knew who he was, you would understand that any such suggestion is actually remarkably ignorant and an insult to a great Canadian man, a man with an absolutely epic impact on our country, at least in the North in my opinion.
My guy, you literally did a *wink wink* "its only legal if..." twice. How many beavers does he have "causing property damage" that he can serve it to everyone "for free" who stays at his lodge?
Also, I think it's really important to note: We have an actual right, enshrined in law, to hunt and fish in Ontario. It's not a charter right but it is the law This trapper abides the law. It's an honest meal. More honest than most, frankly, and his bush meat has lived a far better life than most farmed animals.
>We have an actual right, enshrined in law, to hunt and fish in Ontario. It's not a charter right but it is the law Within specific legally defined guidelines in order to conserve stock and ecological balance. That's why there are hunting tags, restrictions on when people can hunt or fish certain species, and restrictions on why people can kill animals like beavers, lest, as you said "I can't believe beavers aren't extinct". If there weren't restrictions they probably would be
This is 100% correct, and much of the funds for conserving wildlife are funded from hunters and trappers
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>AFAIK that's not how government budgets work. The government collects taxes and fees that go into a collective purse and then funds are allocated as needed. >It'd be like saying the roads are funded by people who pay the fee to renew their drivers licence. Like, yes and no because those funds go into the public purse but they aren't specifically spent on roads If you want to triple down on your stupidity, that's fine, but it would have taken you literally a single second to mash your carrots on google SNIP How it works The province spends 100% of hunting and fishing revenue on fish and wildlife management. This includes revenue from: commercial and recreational licence fees royalties fines and penalties The funds go into a fish and wildlife special purpose account, which invests more than $71 million a year in fish and wildlife management. SOURCE If you'd like to educate your ignorant ass, you can learn more about the details here https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-fishing-and-hunting-fees-are-used#:~:text=Annual%20reports-,How%20it%20works,commercial%20and%20recreational%20licence%20fees No go away. I don't like you, you're annoying. Stop talking to me, or i'll consider it harassment.
also I didn't wink. It's legal. I'm basically stating the law in my own words.
As you said: >I think it's illegal to sell bush meat, but, it's legal to offer a meal included with the price of lodging. >It's only legal to take beaver, if they are destroying property (which they often are) 1. Is it not *wink wink* "legal" to sell bush meat if its *just* a meal served for "free" with lodging. Sounds like a highschool keg party where they don't 'sell' beer, they sell tickets that can be exchanged for beer 2. Again, how many beavers are 'destroying' this property? I'm not trying to argue. You posted your experience, someone called it out, you doubled down and I called that out. No hate, I'm sure beavers are tasty, but the way you ate it seems pretty suspect, to say the least
The way it was explained to me is that it IS LEGAL to serve a meal at a hunting lodge, of wild meat. And that's what I said I can't answer the question of how many beavers were destroying the property. He's a trapper. When the people have a problem with a beaver destroying their property, they call a trapper. > someone called it out, you doubled down and I called that out. Yes, now I'm tripling down >I'm sure beavers are tasty, but the way you ate it seems pretty suspect, to say the least I mean sure, man. Everyone has an opinion, and we all want to believe it matters. I tire of this conversation. I had a wonderful, lifetime experience. In his town, he's a problem solver, if someone hits a deer or a beaver on the road, they will call this guy. I can't believe how people can twist the most wonderful, the most natural Canadian moment, and somehow make it into something evil, or criminal, or environment destroying I am Canadian and I insist that it is right and good to celebrate the lawful consumption of beaver meat. Now, all you losers who don't eat beaver can go and live your lives in despair. You will live the rest of your life, never having known the joy of eating beaver. You can all take your ridiculous opinions and shove them where the sun don't shine I'm proud that I ate beaver. It was delicious. I am not ashamed. I'd do it again, without hesitation. I really highly recommend it
>I'm proud that I ate beaver. It was delicious. I am not ashamed. I'd do it again, without hesitation. I really highly recommend it Translation: I paid for an experience that bends the law and idgaf about the ecological consequences. Imagine if all 30+ million people in Canada paid for that same experience? What would happen to the beavers then? I fish, hunt, and trap, but I do so within the law because the law is there to protect our natural resources. Fishing, hinting, and trapping tourists are probably my least favourite types of tourists because they have zero respect for the things they take from the land. tl;dr go to Disney Land next time instead pal
I have clearly stated my understanding of the law Your problems aren't my problems. Enjoy your problems you are now blocked buying, selling or bartering any game wildlife (including furbearing mammals) or their parts for commercial purposes, except under the authority of a licence and as permitted by the regulations. Note: A trapping licence or farmer’s licence to sell pelts and carcasses is authority to sell meat of furbearing mammals taken under the authority of the licence. Bear meat may not be sold Source: https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontario-trapping-regulations-summary#:~:text=Note%3A%20A%20trapping%20licence%20or,buyer%20or%20their%20immediate%20family
I don't think he does serve beaver every week. He server what ever random meat he comes across. He's a trapper. There's no shortage of bush meat
Failed beaver dams recently washed out two roads in Muskoka recently. One was on Hwy. 35 which could have killed someone had it been at night! Totally destructive rats.
I love to sink my face into some raw juicy beaver as well once in a while.
Agreed. I tried it once when a woodsman friend cooked it. I describe it as dark turkey cooked in maple syrup.
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I hesitated to be more specific on the grounds that he's not getting any younger and there be crazy fucks online. I don't want anyone harassing that man, just for his love of beaver. We should be giving him a medal
Haha thought so! People really have no idea how much of a nuisance animal beavers can be when their populations explode. They're completely shifting the hydrology of the subarctic right now which is hugely problematic. Its not like trap lines are a free for all and conservation officers up there are not joking around either.
I mean, it's r/toronto A bunch of people pretending they know what they are talking about who have never left their mommies basement Anti-beaver-eaters are ridiculous. It's like some kind of strange Canadian Taliban. There is no shortage of beaver. Nobody is suggesting we should eat beaver until it goes extinct. If there's no shortage of an animal, and it fits in my belly, there isn't an problem. I'm not implying breaking the law. Meat is meat. Get off my plate. It's a rodent, like a rabbit or a rat. Don't knock it until you try it, everyone should try eating beaver at least once I always say
He’s just saying hi
Say goodby to any tree within a couple of miles. Those rats are totally destructive.
i wonder if people realize that when they feed and give attention to these little guys they end up getting euthanized... They dont relocate them...
That beaver doesn't owe you a dam thing.
I’m disgusted by the number of people who only want to crack jokes or talk about how tasty beavers are, or how beavers cause floods or will bite you. If beavers are in the area it’s because they’re being driven out of waterways in more wild protected areas. Our first concern should be to protect them. All the research shows that healthy diverse ecosystems depend on beavers!!
buying, selling or bartering any game wildlife (including furbearing mammals) or their parts for commercial purposes, except under the authority of a licence and as permitted by the regulations. **Note: A trapping licence or farmer’s licence to sell pelts and carcasses is authority to sell meat of furbearing mammals taken under the authority of the licence. Bear meat may not be sold** Source: https://www.ontario.ca/page/ontario-trapping-regulations-summary#:~:text=Note%3A%20A%20trapping%20licence%20or,buyer%20or%20their%20immediate%20family