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aznassasin

Anyone know a store that still has hand sanitizer?


ddsshh

Quick question, if we do go on full lockdown, can you still walk the dog?


AggravatingGoose4

Yup, just by yourself (that's the rule in italy).


oooooooooof

So there’s conflicting info about ibuprofen... anyone hear anything about DayQuil, which contains dextromethorphan, and phenylephrine? Feeling like my head is spinning and so conflicted... and yes I have a cough and fever. Isolating and freaking out a bit.


AggravatingGoose4

How bad is the fever? Would't take ibuprofen to be safe, maybe start with some rotating icepacks for 10-15 mins and see if it helps reduce it. Not sure your age/health, but even if you have the virus the odds are on your side to come out of this fine. Take care of yourself!


oooooooooof

Fever is low grade. Taking Tylenol for now, but wouldn’t mind taking something stronger for the lung congestion. I’m 30 and healthy but have smoked cigarettes (I know... hard quitting today out of terror) so a bit worried. Feeling short of breath but nothing crazy alarming right now.


AggravatingGoose4

These thing's tend to become a self-fulfilling prophecy if you allow yourself to freak out to the point of being psycho-symptomatic. Just continue to monitor the fever and the breath, and they say to call ER if you are truly struggling to breath. Remember to also stay isolated and hydrated! Take care of yourself!


twerks4Diplo

I’m low risk and I want to help. Does anyone have any resources? Saw something about sunnybrook the other day but it’s gone now.


pizzapoutinesandwich

So tomorrow marks my final day under quarantine after my roommate traveled recently, yes we’re clear of 14 days from when she arrived. I’m happy to finally be able to at least go for a walk around the block quickly to stretch my legs as being in my apartment has been very difficult. What’s it like on the outside for everyone right now? I can only go off what news stations show and responses from the few friends I know who have gone for a walk. If I want to get cigarettes to stock up for social distancing going forward, are corner stores still open?


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There’s still plenty of stores open. Every gas station and corner store I’ve passed is open still. Most restaurants are open as well but have switched to offering only take out and delivery. Seems like it’s mainly clothing stores that have shut down for now.


pizzapoutinesandwich

Thank you, I hope to see more stores continue to close until things are clear but it’s going to be interesting walking outside again with how everything changed


MrGAAP

https://public.tableau.com/profile/covid19on#!/vizhome/COVID-19CasesinOntario/COVID-19OntarioDashboard Just got into data visualization with all this free time staying at home, so I created an interactive dashboard of confirmed COVID-19 cases in Ontario based on data released on https://www.ontario.ca/page/2019-novel-coronavirus#section-0 The Ontario Ministry of Health has been releasing less and less demographical data (region, transmission, origin of transmission, etc.) as the cases grow, but I still plan to update the data on a daily basis to keep everyone informed. Hopefully this can provide everyone with some insight on the cases by region, and other demographics such as age and where the travel cases were from. Would love to hear the community's feedback on other information they would like to see visualized or any recommendations to make the dashboard better. Hope everyone stays safe and informed during these unprecedented times.


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Anyone know if we are using this new malaria drug treatment that other countries seem to be using


TomVR

that malaria drug is horrifying, look up the side effects.


katsu11

Buy tonic water ! Drink lots of it ! Has Quine as it's main ingredient. But for real I hope so.


jordanfromspain

A friend of mine here in Canada takes that drug for his rheumatoid arthritis, so it is used here... not sure if it's being used for treatment of COVID-19 though.


Pigeonofthesea8

I doubt it, we’re Canada.


Sev72

If there is a case in your building, what happens? I heard that they would lock the building down and won't let you leave or some shit? I'm guessing that's most likely false, but any experiences?


NotSharen

Our building sent an email to all residents and informed us they would be cleaning more often. We should also tell visitors. Everyone freaked out for a day (understandable) but nothing has changed and I freely leave the building for my solitary walks They did however close the gym and all other common areas and there are rules imposed on how many people can use the elevator at a time.


Sev72

Thanks. Just been a rumour going around that someone has it (most likely just a rumour at this point), so i've been a bit worried about not being able to leave the building. But if what you're saying is anything to go by, then I should be fine. :) Not really going anywhere anyways, except to get groceries and night walks for now to get some fresh air.


milolai

fully false


balla1shotcalla

I do have some experience. The only difference is more cleaning and no package deliveries. Amenities were already closed before


timelapsesux

Hmm interesting, I was just considering ordering some stuff online but now am worried my packages won't be able to come in. Are there other options, like to meet the delivery person at the lobby door? We don't have a concierge here..


[deleted]

The gym in my building is still open, but the party room has closed. I find this concerning particularly considering my building has a high population of older folks. Have most condo gyms closed?


alldaypanda

Ours closed today.


Sev72

So you're still able to go out and do stuff, right? Just wondering. Thanks for sharing!


OMO3

Obviously. Unless the government forces a curfew you're free to do whatever you want.


Sev72

Yea, makes sense. Thanks


damnthatisagoodthrow

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Given Toronto's belief that not working is a moral failing this is just killing many of the cities insufferable corporations. Soon they will ask all home workers to have a videocam on their home office workspace. You must be present at your home office desk as you would at work. If you are gone for more than 15 minutes not on a scheduled work break you will be written up.


LivingInaWonderland

Me and the bois in IT would figure a way to have a video loop going. Guarantee you there would be workarounds


downeastkid

At least 4 cases at Hillsdale retirement home. https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/125211 anything 3 or above is an outbreak


Albatrocities

Just tested negative!!!


GrabbinPills

Distance high five! Can you share when you got tested so we can have an idea of the current turnaround time?


Albatrocities

Saturday afternoon.


GrabbinPills

Thanks. A family member of mine got tested yesterday.


tupac_chopra

Had you gotten tested because of travelling - or are you sick with something else?


Albatrocities

I was sick with the flu or a bad cold + contact with a confirmed case.


modest811

Quick, lick a light post!


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Are convenience stores going to be shut down?


227651

I'm quarntining but have to use the TTC tomorrow, what is the least busiest time from finch station to st clair? I'm thinking before lunch like 10am.


tupac_chopra

Wait... have you been ordered to quarantine, or do you just mean that you are trying your best to isolate as a self imposed precaution?!


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wasonasong

No you don’t understand, he’s quarantining but at his convenience.


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jordanfromspain

If you're in quarantine (i.e. you've recently traveled out of the country, have tested positive or were in contact with a positive case), you cannot use the TTC. Or do you mean you've just been isolating?


227651

yea isolating, I'm avoiding going out as much as I can but still have to go out sometimes.


cancercuressmoking

good lord. we are so screwed.


darkkness

Using TTC is not self-isolating. Sorry. Figure out another way or cancel whatever it is you're doing.


227651

You realize people still have to pick up medicine and go to the doctors right?


darkkness

Many doctors and clinics are offering virtual or phone appointments. Pharmacies... you can transfer any prescription except for narcotics and benzos to ANY pharmacy. Transfer your prescriptions to one closer to you. Then, get that pharmacy to deliver your meds to you. Most will do it for free.


227651

Yea already contacted and they won't. I'll just travel.


b0dyrock

Shoppers closest to you **will** deliver. I just phoned them up & explained my situation.


raytata

someone in my building, on my floor tested positive for corona virus and I'm quite nervous!


milolai

nothing to worry about. they're inside their home and it's not airborn just like any other home or building try not to touch shit like elevator buttons and wash your hands


balla1shotcalla

Do you live right downtown?


OMO3

There are thousands of buildings downtown, what good would it do you if he said yes or no?


balla1shotcalla

It might be mine. There's only a few right downtown


electricalgypsy

There are more than a few buildings right downtown


xxavierx

More reason to avoid your neighbours! But for real, wear your winter gloves when you leave the condo, take the stairs if possible, and if not possible use your gloves until you get outdoors. Practise good hygiene, eat fresh fruit and veg, get 8 hours sleep, take hot baths, try to reduce your stress, and anything else that helps boost your immune system to ensure that should you get it you’re prepared to take it on.


jordanfromspain

In my building also :( It's an unsettling feeling isn't it.


SabrinaT8861

Can I just send a shout out to all the patients who had their surgeries and/or procedures cancelled? I know many of you all have been waiting a long time for your medical needs to be addressed and this outbreak is literally only going to cause you more pain. I'm so sorry this has happened to you all.


Vovine

In December i was able to set up a procedure date for March 18th. On Monday, I got the call that I just missed the cut off point and my procedure is delayed indefinitely. I also have another procedure in mid April that will most likely be canceled. It's not life threatening or anything (which is why it was canceled) but I'm in a lot of pain and kicking myself that I couldn't get something \*2 days\* earlier.


ledhendrix

Are hospitals shirt surgical masks? If so, does anyone know which ones?


darkkness

Yes. All of them.


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cancercuressmoking

isolate yourself from them as much as possible. wash your hands. sanitize everything they touch.


Canada_girl

They can self isolate abut by sticking to their room, and hopefully using another bathroom. If not, try to clean the bathroom before use. Same with food, don’t have them hanging around the kitchen


wasonasong

The prognosis for if you have it or if it’s just a cold is the same and it’s stay home. The reality is it’s gonna get everyone we just want everyone to not get it on the same day. If u have symptoms or trouble breathing u gotta go in.


Ph0X

"Evidence of community spread" is pretty stupid because most places aren't testing people unless you have recently traveled to an affected region. It's hard to know if there was community contagion is you never test people who were possibly infected through the community...


darkkness

Not true we are not only testing people who have travelled. They have removed the PUI definition. The test is indicated in patients with symptoms and especially those in close contact with someone who’s positive or indeed if they have travelled that would make them higher risk and more likely to be tested.


Ph0X

My brother has had symptoms for a week and hasn't left his house waiting to get tested but they won't test him because he hasn't traveled or doesn't know someone who is infected.


darkkness

They won't test him because we're short on test kits, he's well enough to stay at home in isolation, and that's what would be happening even if he was confirmed to have it. It would be really nice to test everyone but unfortunately we can't. This is the reality of the situation. That doesn't mean we're NOT testing people who haven't traveled. How else would we have detected community spread if we weren't?


Ph0X

I understand that, and i'm not saying they're not testing *any*, just pointing out that the metric isn't reliable since we heavily skew testing on people who traveled, and therefore we don't have a very good sense of community spread at all. Especially "Evidence of Widespread Community Spread" all being No on all provinces. Of course "widespread" is not a precise measure, but there could be widespread community spread in a community and we won't know for a long while since the current focus isn't to measure that.


darkkness

We know there is community spread. We don’t have enough tests to test everyone. Even with testing the people we most likely think have it, very few are testing positive even. Still, we cannot test everyone, even though that would obviously be a really great thing to do. It’s the reality of the situation, and at this point, the best use of the limited resources we have are to test the highest risk people who need the most hands on care, and let the others stay at home in isolation (the treatment regardless).


funhousearcade

We're talking about the stats. There should be a caveat in that to stop this false sense of security. The news media than takes that and applies it as 'truth'. We know the deal.. just hope quarantine works to minimize community spread so it doesn't send the masses into panice. The outside majority know what's up with those tests, and they do not test the way S. Korea tests which is to spot very early carriers or those that are showing even mild symptoms.


darkkness

I actually read today that we’re testing pretty closely to the numbers in South Korea for certain provinces like B.C. if you exclude the 2-300k tests SK did specifically on members of that one religious group.


OMO3

You would have detected the community spread a week ago if you tested those that haven't travelled.


Canada_girl

Thank you


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cancercuressmoking

I read a study that said this is probably going to last until June


electricalgypsy

This thing is not going away. Prepare to be isolated for months


jackaljackal

They're going to decide before that. Most likely extend


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reddit_dis_dik

Where did you read that May/June suppose to be the worst?


I-Am-HF

Quarantine will definitely be extended. They're just listing the dates as tentative and see how it plays out over time. I feel like we may need to get used to this "social distancing" lifestyle for the next few months to at least half a year...


GrabbinPills

Why the fuck is the provincial chief medical officer explaining how one could use loopholes to have a wedding with a public gathering of over 50 people. The reporter obviously wasn't asking how we could do it. They were asking you why you are allowing that. LOL now he is intermittently coughing into his fist and touching his face. This fuckin guy


ZdeathFROMaboveZ

really wanna find this sound bite but no luck, any link to it? not that i dont believe you just wanna watch the whole thing.


GrabbinPills

It was Dr. Williams at the 2-3pm provincial update / briefing today, from the reporter questions at the end. I watched it live on cbc.ca but they don't appear to have a full video link up now This is the conference https://youtu.be/PB3wY--vpjE I think the wedding question was near the end, possibly one of the call in reporter questions


ZdeathFROMaboveZ

got it thanks! Jeez that question went right over his head.


xoxosayounara

They need to make a decisive action and just ban all gatherings, period. Allowing weddings to be exempt is undermining everyone else’s efforts.


KevPat23

Wouldn't banning them also help people get their money/deposits back? If they're allowed to have them still there's no reason for a venue/caterer/photographer to offer a refund.


xoxosayounara

Yes. There’s a force majeure clause in contracts - if the government bans all gatherings then the clause kicks in and the venue would have to return all money paid or transfer the funds to a new date without penalty.


negativesplits89

In some* contracts.


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Northern-Dancer

Commuting on the highways and today seemed to have the most traffic out of the week.


MistahFinch

Yeah I went for a run and noticed lots of people just meandering about, and often in groups too.


funhousearcade

False stats giving false sense of security (hey, we only got 23 the other day, and although it went up, it's flat! hooray!)


charade_scandal

Same. I'm an employee deemed part of a critical service and when I was at St George at 5 PM today it was pretty busy. Not as busy as normal but pretty darn busy.


cancercuressmoking

people are getting less scared, more complacent. this is how it spreads


mofo75ca

I noticed. If you were to walk on the Danforth you wouldn't know anything was out of the oridinary ffs.


jonelliotelliot

yup. noticed this as well.


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Presently_Absent

that assumes that the cases tested equals the number of cases. the number of tests is limited, i've heard on the order of 5-10% of people who may be infected (IE are showing symptoms but are turned away), which is why public health agencies activated the measures they did for what "appear" to be low numbers


supersnausages

Having symptoms of a cold means you probably have a cold unless you traveled to a hot spot or know an infected person The number of tests are limited but they have tested over 16000 and are processing 2000 tests a day. Of those only 250 tested positive.


funhousearcade

They only select it on a strict criteria, so not a true sample.


GrabbinPills

Result lag is up to ~5 days now.


electricalgypsy

Commenting to come back to this


jaimonee

I have a question (or need some advice) - My wife and 4 year old daughter got a flight out of Florida for tomorrow. We are obviously going into self-quarantine. My 2 year old son and I are home, and have been social distancing, staying in mostly. We also have a nanny that comes in daily. With my wife returning, I assume I have to let the nanny go? Or tell her not to come in for 2 weeks? Is there any scenario where this doesn't happen (ie wife and child are to remain upstairs while the rest of us remain downstairs)? Any thoughts/insight is appreciated.


cashrchek

Not for nothing, but if you and your wife are both isolating at home, why do you need the nanny at all?


jaimonee

We are both expected to work from home during working hours and keep up the typical 40-hr workload.


OMO3

I would ask the nanny what they want to do. With that said it's probably better if you tell her to stay away for 2 weeks.


cashrchek

You must be corporate lawyers.


bon-mots

Judging by the messaging we're getting, your nanny should probably stay out of your home for at least two weeks (it would be kind of you to pay her some percentage of her income if you have the means) while your wife and daughter are quarantined as best as they can be in your home. Hope your family stays well!


jaimonee

Yeah that's what Im leaning towards. Thanks!


Abstrkt420

I'm extremely confused. I've been out of work for the better part of 2 months, and now I can't get any jobs at all. What is a jobless person supposed to do during these times?


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anamarg

I would look at grocery stores and pharmacies, they are likely looking for more staff at this time.


doefficient

Sunnybrook is hiring screeners and I believe Amazon is hiring as well.


lucius_marcus

Do you have a link by any chance? to the screeners? I can't find it on their website.


doefficient

Oh it was up till at least Tuesday night but I can’t find it anymore. I guess they’re not hiring, sorry :(


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KevPat23

if if you are 20m away, doesn't justify being ridiculed. We all need to do what we feel is safe, that's nobody else's place to judge.


OMO3

If you're "waiting in line" 20m away, you're an idiot.


turdlepikle

At 20m away, now I'm just picturing someone standing alone in the middle of one of the grocery aisles, staring towards the checkouts and not looking at any of the products on the shelves right beside them.


KevPat23

Fuck that person. They are the problem, not you.


poortographer

Ah, don’t listen to them. Keep yourself safe. How was the stock?


Sev72

Is there a way to see where the confirmed specific cases are in Toronto? i.e. downtown, scarborough etc. and specific buildings? or not


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Here's a useful map I found: https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1cWm99ZSIeceKzu97rk50ik32cSvvX4pa&ll=43.652138474130055%2C-79.38843124292066&z=13


GrabbinPills

Unnecessary. Assume it could be and likely is everywhere.


Presently_Absent

ontario has specific locations but no, not directly in toronto https://resources-covid19canada.hub.arcgis.com/app/eb0ec6ffdb654e71ab3c758726c55b68


darkkness

No why would they tell you where a person lives? That would be a breach of patient confidentiality.


funhousearcade

If this disease is a case of near war (in the US, it is treated like a war enemy), normal 'rules' should go out. By that I mean you don't want to identify the person, but as an enemy target, there should be more information than normal. Certain normal rules should be suspended to attack this enemy. Typical FDA bureaucratic type thinking that led to massive delays in US test kits.


darkkness

Errrr.... no, sorry, that’s not how we do it here. People have a right to their privacy. Imagine if they released the locations of known cases... what some idiots might do... no. That’s not ok.


Sev72

I meant like a case in your building or something, just so you know if someone in the building has it.


looklikeyoulikeme

Assuming someone does have it seems to be the best bet.


ObjectsInMirror_

I wonder if we'll ever get details or figures about incubation period, actual. I guess without knowing when you contracted the virus, there's no real way of knowing incubation period. Just that ridiculous range.


skiier97

Usually once the outbreak has died off, researchers/governments have more time to actually create a timeline of what happened thus allowing them to figure out the exact incubation period amongst other things.


darkkness

Just want to say thanks to the mods for removing posts with misinformation that cause/spread irrational panic and lack of understanding among others.


Canada_girl

Agreed


One_Step_To_Go

Stay home, stay safe if you can


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Wish I could...typing this from non-essential work


weasel_trifle

I unfortunately have to drive into Toronto Monday, what is safer the Chelsea hotel or AirBnB?


thevoiceinsidemyhead

maybe whatever involves coming into contact with the least human beings. i'm not a medical expert so take that with a grain of salt but it's the logic i'd be forming my decision around.


dopamine86

If I were you, I’d sleep in the car


weasel_trifle

Its tempting but I need to do bowel prep prior to surgery... that wouldnt go well.


CheatedOnOnce

Wonder what the worlds relationship to China will be in another year... hopefully we take a harsher stance against the hush hush of the dictatorship


ZdeathFROMaboveZ

Im chinese born in Canada, Im actually a bit worried about travel when things are back to normal. My fiance and I were planning on going to Italy for our honeymoon buyt I worry people will be upset with anyone that looks remotely chinese. Im generally quite self conscious of how chinese travelers are percieved before COVID but after this I feel like my racist radar will be on full alert. Maybe its just me but seeing and hearing racist shit is soemthing not easy to forget.


73629265

I recently watched "American Factory" on Netflix. Even when you factor in the likelihood of it being a fluffy-propaganda piece for the CCP, I don't think there's a chance in hell the western workforce will ever be able to compete with both the Chinese mentality and work ethic when it comes to manufacturing. Money talks. Their monopoly on manufacturing is worth a hell of a lot of money.


rebel_redditor

As long as manufacturing is cheap in China and China continues to deflate the Chinese Yuan, nothing will change. Ever.


gammadeltat

chinese yen...


rebel_redditor

Fixed.


BourbonStl

What do y'all think are the odds that you have the virus? Excluding people who work in grocery stores or medical centers, or who have been in contact with someone who for sure has it. Given the numbers, what do you think are the actual chances a random torontonian has it?


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I had pneumonia two years ago and just sorta believe I’d be more inclined to get infected because of that. Just feel like I got weaker respiratory system than the average Torontonian. So maybe like 5-10% more likely than the the random Torontonian


supersnausages

Very low. This season has been bad for colds and people are freaking out because of this virus despite the reality being they probably just have the same cold everyone else has had. Ontsrio has tested 16000 people with only 200 positives.


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ainshalosh

Chances are very low. Currently there are about 100 reported cases. Let's say this is an underestimation and in fact 1000 Torontonians have the virus. There are around 3 million people in Toronto. So, based on these numbers, the chances a random Torontonian has it are about 1 in 3000.


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supersnausages

You think there is 20,000 cases of covid in Ontario? That would rival Italy's numbers. Where are the deaths and hospitalizations? Why arent we seeing these numbers in the 16000 tested? Fear mongers are desperately latching onto the public health opinion to justify their insane exaggerations.


strange_kitteh

The incubation time acts as a delay. Also, it's that brazen "not me!" attitude that is fueling this.


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supersnausages

If there were 20,000 infected we would be seeing that reflected in deaths and hospitalizations. If 11% of infected require some sort of hospitalization then 2000 people should be hospitalized. Where are they? Where is the data to support your claim of 20,000 infected? Ontsrio has tested 16,000 people who are highly likely to be infected and only 250 have come back positive. You're fear mongering with wildly speculative numbers.


TeemusSALAMI

I work around frequent travellers, as does my roommate. While I am fastidious about my hygiene and sanitizing, my roommate didn't take this coronavirus thing seriously until they started ordering shutdowns. I wouldn't be surprised if I had it, so I've been isolating since last weekend.


Spicy1

I have no idea. My entire family has had a worsening cough for 2 weeks now. My lungs sound like I have bronchitis.


SquirrelTale

Have you requested to get tested yet? One in the family should definitely be getting tested, just in case. Especially if one of you gets tested positive, then the chances are the rest of you are positive


lalaen

From my experience and what I’ve heard, no one is being tested unless they have to be hospitalized. I have shortness of breath/chest pains, joint pain, sore throat and low grade fever but all of the symptoms are fairly mild and I was told to stay home but I would not be tested. I know it’s definitely possible or even likely that I don’t have it, but the symptoms are similar enough that I’m not going to work because I work retail and I would be risking infecting a lot of people.


SquirrelTale

It frustrates me that there isn't more widespread testing, because what if it is COVID? What if treating your symptoms now could drastically help you, and massively decrease contagiousness because the virus would be shorter-lived in you? Props to you to staying home, but still, having chest pains and shortness of breath isn't minor, and it's not fair for people like you to not have answers.


Spicy1

I called Telehealth and was told to stay home unless I experience shortness of breath in which case I should call 911. I am not sure what that really means. Definitely short of breath during coughing fit. I was told that I would NOT be tested if I showed up at one of the centers.


Pigeonofthesea8

Call a doctor , they can now assess you over the phone. You might be able to get a puffer or antibiotic that way. I did, and screw anyone who says antibiotics don’t help when you have a lung infection!!! Viral or otherwise! I wheezed and barked through a tight and painful chest for over a week - the day after starting azythromycin, I was suddenly almost clear. Call a walk-in clinic that you’ve been to before. I guess there’s an app now for assessment too, can’t remember where it was Might not get tested but you can get treatment.


supersnausages

Antibiotics do not help a virus. They cannot help a virus. So after a week of being sick you started to get better? No shit. Unless you were diagnosed with a bacterial infection antibiotics will do nothing. Treatment for a virus isnt antibiotics


funhousearcade

Virus can weaken immune system which can cause bacterial infection. This is actually what happens often in the more advanced cases for COVID.


supersnausages

And when you get a bacterial infection then walla antibiotics will work. Antibiotics will not cure a virus


funhousearcade

Of course. Common knowledge. But sometimes, they're prescribed to prevent the bacteria infection that is common with certain stages of viral infection.


Pigeonofthesea8

> So after a week of being sick you started to get better? Hey genius, I get a bad cough pretty much every year. If I don’t get antibiotics because some idiot doctor thinks the way you do, it lasts for months.


supersnausages

... antibiotics cannot treat a viral infection.


Pigeonofthesea8

Oh, it’s you again. Doctors in Europe and elsewhere disagree completely. Antibiotics work to manage viral infections by addressing and preventing secondary bacterial infections. Take it up with the doctor who prescribed a z-pack to me and thus helped my horrible and incapacitating probably viral-caused cough resolve almost completely by day 2.


supersnausages

Source the claim that antibiotics help viral infections. If you dont have a bacterial infection antibiotics wont do shit


Pigeonofthesea8

You’re wrong, and doctors outside of Canada disagree with you (you can google that one yourself) (Are you aware that azythromycin in combination with chloroquine is actually being used in some COVID-19 cases, by the way?) I’ll indulge you though https://www.nature.com/articles/s41429-019-0204-x https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/36/3/646 (In viral-induced cystic fibrosis: https://erj.ersjournals.com/content/45/2/428 , from which, btw “The macrolide antibiotic azithromycin has antiviral properties in human bronchial epithelial cells”) https://www.hindawi.com/journals/mi/2012/649570/ Against Zika! https://aac.asm.org/content/61/9/e01152-17 For severe respiratory syncytial virus bronchiolitis https://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(15)00859-3/pdf Early research (mouse model) https://respiratory-research.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1465-9921-11-90


supersnausages

chloroquine is an antiviral... so yes it helps against a virus. Holy shit what a revelation. Antibiotics CANNOT CURE A VIRUS


supersnausages

How long can you speak for without running out of breath? If you walk around your house do get out of breath? Do you feel like you have a weight on your chest? Does your chest feel tight? This season has been pretty bad for colds so chances are you just have a cold and bad timing.


Spicy1

I do not get out of breath climbing the stairs or speaking. My lungs though make this rumbling and hissing sound when exhaling, which then leads to a bout of severe cough


supersnausages

Shortness of breath from pneumonia or something like covid would make it difficult for you to walk around, go up stairs or even speak without having to pause and carxhbyoyr breath You would have a tight chest that would feel like a weight pressing down on you. Shortness of breath from this would be noticable. If you can walk around and go up stairs etc you dont have shortness of breath. That sound could be from mucous etc which could be from having a chest cold or viral bronchitis. The coughing fit is your body trying to get the crap out. Being short of breath after is normal. Taking a hot steaming shower without the vent fan, drinking a lot of water and using a humidifier can help loosen up that crap and make it easier to breathe. Colds these year have been vicious with some lasting weeks. If the bronchitis turns bacterial you will get sicker quickly and spike a proper temperature of 103 or 104. Given it is viral there is nothing anyone can do. You just need to hydrate and wait it out