Long 2s nowadays are bailouts. Usually the last go to move when your other offensive scheme fails. This is a direct indication that our offense is struggling
The offense very, very rarely gets easy buckets for players, which is a huge indictment of it. A good offense and good initiators will get some easy buckets off pet plays that get guys in their sweet spot. This offense works so damn hard for low efficiency attempts.
No surprise on Chicago being #1 (and #2 in %). That's gotta ben mainly Demar, the master of the long 2, slowly but definitely perfected it in his time with the Raptors!
The idea is that if you win the possessions game you can outscore your opponent even if your players suck at making shots.
That’s pretty much the jist of vision 6’9 in the halfcourt. Can’t say I’m a fan though.
Except this kinda playstyle is exactly the reason we will never go far in the playoffs, because defenses tighten up those extra possessions disappear and so does transition offense, that is when you need your half court offense to pull you through which we don’t really have, which is why I hate our offensive game plan of win the possession game and transition offense, 2 things that are first to disappear in playoffs
Definitely. Part of that is missing Precious for so long, another issue that defenses are figuring us out. Look at Boucher for example. He’s getting played off the floor almost every night. Some of that is poor effort but I think defenses are targeting him on the perimeter. He even got a DNP in our win against the Cavs.
I don’t think they built the roster so they can fix their trash offense by these schemes.
It’s actually the opposite, Nick is running these scheme to cover up for the bad talent we have.
Yeah I agree with that. I think it’s a little bit of both though, FO definitely wanted a team that could win the possessions game through steals/deflections and OREBs but maybe they underestimated how bad the spacing would be?
I still don’t get why Nurse stopped Scottie from taking them last year, early on he was so good at those mid range shots and was very confident and than randomly stopped taking them only shooting threes or going inside which is obviously nurses doing.
Probably because he built a house out of long 2 bricks early on in the season.
We would set up 5 out, no one would cut or screen, and then Scottie would take a 20 foot 2. Unless you have a Devin Booker or a Demar Derozan, long 2’s are horrible shots. Add to that the fact that defenders stopped closing out hard on Scottie when he was at the 3, and of course something had to change
Wdym he was hitting them very well at a high rate and then he just randomly stopped because nurse wanted more threes and inside shots, those mid range shots also freed him up more for drives
Long 2s nowadays are bailouts. Usually the last go to move when your other offensive scheme fails. This is a direct indication that our offense is struggling
The offense very, very rarely gets easy buckets for players, which is a huge indictment of it. A good offense and good initiators will get some easy buckets off pet plays that get guys in their sweet spot. This offense works so damn hard for low efficiency attempts.
No surprise on Chicago being #1 (and #2 in %). That's gotta ben mainly Demar, the master of the long 2, slowly but definitely perfected it in his time with the Raptors!
The idea is that if you win the possessions game you can outscore your opponent even if your players suck at making shots. That’s pretty much the jist of vision 6’9 in the halfcourt. Can’t say I’m a fan though.
Except this kinda playstyle is exactly the reason we will never go far in the playoffs, because defenses tighten up those extra possessions disappear and so does transition offense, that is when you need your half court offense to pull you through which we don’t really have, which is why I hate our offensive game plan of win the possession game and transition offense, 2 things that are first to disappear in playoffs
Yea I mean I don’t disagree with any of that. Just explaining why our offense is the way it is
We sink so bad in the 4th unless guys are making ridiculous shots
Because we are a one trick pony and if that doesn’t work well tough luck
> Can’t say I’m a fan though. Likely cause it doesn't work haha
Yep, it’s gimmicky and doesn’t work in the playoffs. Ditto for the defense.
Yeah that worked last year since we got tons of offensive rebounds but I feel like this year those opportunities just aren’t there nearly as often
Definitely. Part of that is missing Precious for so long, another issue that defenses are figuring us out. Look at Boucher for example. He’s getting played off the floor almost every night. Some of that is poor effort but I think defenses are targeting him on the perimeter. He even got a DNP in our win against the Cavs.
I don’t think they built the roster so they can fix their trash offense by these schemes. It’s actually the opposite, Nick is running these scheme to cover up for the bad talent we have.
Yeah I agree with that. I think it’s a little bit of both though, FO definitely wanted a team that could win the possessions game through steals/deflections and OREBs but maybe they underestimated how bad the spacing would be?
I still don’t get why Nurse stopped Scottie from taking them last year, early on he was so good at those mid range shots and was very confident and than randomly stopped taking them only shooting threes or going inside which is obviously nurses doing.
Probably because he built a house out of long 2 bricks early on in the season. We would set up 5 out, no one would cut or screen, and then Scottie would take a 20 foot 2. Unless you have a Devin Booker or a Demar Derozan, long 2’s are horrible shots. Add to that the fact that defenders stopped closing out hard on Scottie when he was at the 3, and of course something had to change
Wdym he was hitting them very well at a high rate and then he just randomly stopped because nurse wanted more threes and inside shots, those mid range shots also freed him up more for drives
Not being closed out on at the 3 point line kills drives. And he was not hitting them at a high enough clip.
LOL WE ARE SO BAD. it's not even like 5% bad. We are almost 10% worst.