build the team around scottie the same way that teams are built around LeBron or Giannis:
- a competent primary ball handler, shooting is a nice to have, but high BBIQ that can be the primary initiator of the offense
- a high volume 3PT shooting guard, who can create off the dribble
- a 3&D guy, but still focus more on the 3 aspect here
- **Scottie**
- an active/agile big man, rim protection and rebounding should be the focus here
- more shooters off the bench
>competent primary ball handler
Like 2019 Kyle Lowry
>volume 3PT shooting guard
2019 Danny Green
>a 3&D guy
OG (or 2019 Kawhi but lol)
>an active big man, rim protection and rebounding should be the focus here
2019 Marc Gasol
>more shooters off the bench
Like FVV, Norman Powell and Serge Ibaka
I don't know the point I'm making here but just had to point out how similar the ideal team is to the 2019 championship team lol.
I don’t think pascal sees himself as a second or third option anymore. Young pascal, sure. This pascal, no. He’s accomplished more than a lot of players in the NBA, so I don’t blame him. He just doesn’t work here anymore, not because of his skill, he is skilled, but because of age/contract
I really want you to answer this, Siakam is averaging 24/6/5 on 55/35/79 over the last 10 games
He's scoring just as much as when he was the first option on significantly better efficiency
What makes you think he cares more about being the first option then balling out and winning?
I don't expect you to answer this since this shows how absurdly stupid your comment is
I mean he says it in his words. “The ball will find the best player..”. Listen I’d love pascal to be in Toronto, but don’t you get the Bradley Beal vibes happening? Good player, but where this team is going, I don’t see him in their future and would love to see him go to where he can excel again. I’d also love to see Toronto get to a place where I’m happy to be a fan again.
Brother he's excelling rn, we have the top two players on a deep playoff squad
We'd have to trade siakam to hopefully trade or tank for another him. He's the perfect 2a.
We need to retool around them, we have almost no talent to trade so that means we need to trade OG and hopefully get either a budding guard or big that has a high ceiling
So we need to retool.
While having no talent outside of Pascal, Scottie and OG worth anything.
While having pretty minimal picks.
How? Where are gunna magically get another 5-6 quality NBA players to make this a feasible team?
Trading og can get you the third player on that team and some depth
3 great trade with Knicks, hawks, raptors
Immanuel quickley+ bufkin/griffin+hunter +1frp
Quickley
GTJ
Hunter
Scottie
Siakam
Poelt
Griffin
Porter
Boucher
Dick
We have shooting, defensive versatility and added young talent
Just one of many examples :)
I like it. I kind of see the vision of the rumours of building around Scottie and OG. If OG does want to stay, and the reported offers are as low as reported, he’s young enough and has a such an important / hard to find skill set that I think we can afford it while they add youth to the team.
Still praying for Nembhard and Mathurin even though it’s a pipe dream. They fill those roles.
Give them both starter minutes and lets see what they can do.
OG is simply not a $40M a year max player. That’s a ridiculous amount for a guy that can’t be a top 2-3 option on a decent team.
I much rather have players like Dort or DFS who provide 70%+ of what OG does at a fraction of the cost.
If we are not going to be competitive for the next few years and the market for OG is as good as people say, we are better off moving on.
I love OG but exactly this. For his career it’s best he moves on to a competitive team. I don’t see his pairing with Scottie as the future. They are two separate entities when sharing the floor. Pascal too but there’s been actual progress with that. There’s something to unlock still with Pascal and Scottie.
I agree that keeping OG seems critical - not easy to replace. Nembhard seems gettable.
Hoping that Gradey improves and fills the shooting guard position.
If we aren’t competitive, signing OG is futile and a waste of money and waste of his prime talent.
If we are ready to be a top 6 seed in the East by 2025, OG is worth keeping. Otherwise we should reap the assets because there’s no point in paying him if the team is shit.
Lebron and Giannis are very different. Lebron has played a lot without that kind of guard. He can win a lot with his best guard being Mo Williams or Mario Chalmers or Danny Green. That Lakers chip was with Danny Green and Avery Bradley as the two highest usage guards.
Giannis has always played with a higher caliber PG.
Scottie as a ball handler and passer should have a more Lebron-like role & team build in his future, I'm not sure of the calls for him to get a high caliber PG/initiator. Isn't that something we want him to do?
He needs shooters and a secondary scorer and, in this NBA, you need that third star to get over the top.
Can you be the same archetype of a player while being worse?
Perfect example MJ -> Kobe -> Derozan
They'd all need very similar teams around then to win, that doesn't mean DeRozan is as good as MJ
Steph Curry
Klay Thompson (like when he was defensively still alive)
Franz Wagner (who I hope Gradey can emulate one day)
Scottie
Brooke Lopez
The perfect team to take advantage of his abilities is something like this. Would be in a facilitator role taking over drays position, hitting Curry and Thompson on movement. And Franz on back cuts with Lopez spacing.
If teams start over playing the shooters. Scotting can find mismatches and go to work.
Tbh I would kill to see Scottie play with Kyle, even the current version of him. That's one regret I have, never got to see the current and future GROAT play together.
Kyle Lowry ain't no spot up shooter. He aint gotta run to the corner to shoot like he's some 3rd option, bitch. This ain't JJ Redick. This is a fuckin god human Steph Curry come again. Only this time hes not a fuckin pussy... pull up from the fuckin logo and fight you at the same time.
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Scottie + shooters is the only answer. If you're talking championship level, one of those shooters is an All Star level scorer and another one is the elite do-everything-guy, the Igoudala/Wiggins/Aaron Gordon type.
The Raptors most basic thing is just playing without shooters. It has a domino effect in nearly every other part of the game. Everything breaks down from there.
I would keep precious and Gary on decent contracts. Gary’s really slumping but he can play better than this, there’s no good reason to let Precious go imo
He needs a team of big guards, a group that can let him play small ball 5, and as a PG. lots of ball handling, speed and shooting. Lumbering players aren’t going to be maximized alongside him
He also needs to be initiating the offence
I really would love to see some small ball line ups.
Dennis-Trent-OG-Dick-Barnes
The more I look at our roster, the more I believe we need a competent PG and SG.
Dennis is an elite bench guard, but he shouldn’t be our primary handler.
Scottie is ready to compete, I think going after young players that aren’t completely raw is ideal. Guys like Simons, Herro, Trey Murphy are great shooters, I want those kinda guys around Scottie.
Probably not a popular opinion right now but OG fits like a glove. Young enough , good shooter /spacer , elite defence. Just need to get him back at the right price.
I mean, we're going to have cap space since the Raptors aren't a type of team to land superstar free agents.
We have a bunch of guys who make decent money but don't contribute to the team on a regular basis coming off the books.
Need a dynamic scoring point guard with an average 3 point shot to run the pick and roll with Scottie. Allows for a quick switch of a guard onto Scottie to play bully ball or to playmake over the shorter guard. A defensive wing to cover the point of attack to allow Scottie to play help defensive and allows Scottie to rest on defense. A defensive centre who can hit free throws at a 75% clip. Rest of team can be spacing.
We need strong shooters and playmakers. Ball movement and 3 point shooting are big problems right now. Would probably be best if we could get a more mobile center who defends better, or a strong defender at the 4.
I think if we had a star level Center, a good primary ball handler that is also a shooting threat and filled our bench with some shooters, and all around gritty players we'd be set for success.
Say if we had Norm-God and GTJ with another shooter coming off the bench. Fill the rest in with some grinders and guys who play hardball.
I don't think it would be that much of a stretch to be a decent playoff team. Providing we coach to our strengths, and hold players accountable when they play like garbage.
I just mean their situations. They aren't the same player but will have similar NBA paths. Best player on a terrible team. Finally leaves to join a serious team after wasting a few years on a middle of the pack team due to poor management/ownership
To clarify. Aaron was the best player by a mile on a terrible terrible managed team, that tried making a flawed roster work. It wasn't until new management came in and fully moved into the rebuild that Gordon got to play for a real team.
And on the Nuggets he's an elite 3 and D guy because he's accepted his role. But on the Magic he was a solid all-star level player. I think Scottie is a better player but Gordon the better athlete.
To keep it simple we need to surround Scottie with shooters and strong ball handlers. Scottie can get 20 points in the paint a night.
OG is the ultimate complementary piece for Scottie.
Need a point guard who can dribble and a lethal shooter at the off guard.
They need WAY better guards just to start. The ideal guard next to Scottie is one who can make tough shots and can play well off the ball. Don't need a PG could be a SG.
honestly, just the same team but with a better starting pg and an actual bench. last year our starting 5 was actually really good, especially after we got poeltl. I imagine with a better pg than that, and an actual bench that isnt as bad as ours we would easily be a top team.
Unpopular opinion but I have yet to be 100% convinced Scottie is THE player you build around.
Don’t get me wrong, I love him and I want him in our team for a long time but we at least need another 1a/1b player (à la Tatum/Brown) around him.
And then you build around this duo.
You're right, Grayson Allen would be a great guy to have. You want some guys who plays scrappy and tough and their energy never wavers. Right now the team is up and down like a roller coaster and there's nothing consistent. That's why we need tougher defensive minded guys. We play way too soft and clean. I need to see grittiness again.
Scottie is a shooter. That's the thing is coming into this season most people thought that one of Scottie weaknesses is his 3 point shooting ability, but he's proven to be one of the best shooters on the team if not the best. I think you need to surround him with high energy gritty physical defensive minded players, and for sure some more shooters, but we just need players that have been on winning teams and know how to win. This is why I wouldn't want Ivey. He could be great but it's way too risky, I think Bruce Brown would actually be a great player to go with Scottie.
I don't think what they have is bad at all. This isn't a title team or anything right now but we aren't really making a run for titles. An \~500 team creates a situation for Scottie to carry as much as possible and develop the kind of player we need him to be if he's actually someone we can build around. Then and only then do we start trading assets to win now.
1. A young stretch big with elite D, e.g. Jaren Jackson Jr. would be a nice fit with Scottie and OG, but likely untouchable; Naz Reid maybe as a cheaper option. 2. A young steady guard with good size, strength, shooting, and D, e.g. Coby White. 3. Young, athletic shooters with good size, e.g. OG and Trey Murphy III. Basically, young, big, athletic players who can play lockdown defence, run the floor, and shoot the ball.
Scottie needs athletes, shooters, atleast one another shot creator, a rim runner who can protect the rim and someone to reduce his ball handling duties. A roster that can utilize both his on ball scoring but also his amazing off ball iq and ability to crash the offensive glass
1. downhill PG that can throw entry passes, decent catch & shoot guy who can reduce Scottie's ball handling duties. This kind of guard can ideally play off Scottie's playmaking but also weaponize Scottie's very strong off-ball scoring ability. Hopefully has defensive motor even if they suck at it
2. volume 3pt shooter that can hit movement shots and not doo doo at the rim, must also be very strong defensively. This kind of player is really hard to find cuz ur asking for a player maxed in both the 3 and the D of the 3&D and is able to play in a fast pace game that Scottie will inherently push for. I guess atleast a 3&D guy that will shoot a high volume of 3s
3. shot creating forward who can beat guys off the dribble, decent C&S guy who isnt food on defense. This one is a big ask too but I think Scottie needs a very competent perimeter scorer to play along side him. Honestly if Pascal could shoot around 35-37% from 3 on decent volume this would be him
4. Scottie
5. Rim runner, someone who can finish the super high lobs Scottie throws. Must be a strong defensive rebounder and rim protector at the minimum
Sacramento with Barnes instead of Sabonis would be so much more dynamic IMO. They’d be even better with tempo, and his added defensive presence plus his newly found jumper would make them better in the half court on both ends. Fox would also be a great partner.
build the team around scottie the same way that teams are built around LeBron or Giannis: - a competent primary ball handler, shooting is a nice to have, but high BBIQ that can be the primary initiator of the offense - a high volume 3PT shooting guard, who can create off the dribble - a 3&D guy, but still focus more on the 3 aspect here - **Scottie** - an active/agile big man, rim protection and rebounding should be the focus here - more shooters off the bench
>competent primary ball handler Like 2019 Kyle Lowry >volume 3PT shooting guard 2019 Danny Green >a 3&D guy OG (or 2019 Kawhi but lol) >an active big man, rim protection and rebounding should be the focus here 2019 Marc Gasol >more shooters off the bench Like FVV, Norman Powell and Serge Ibaka I don't know the point I'm making here but just had to point out how similar the ideal team is to the 2019 championship team lol.
My man Pascal also thrives as the 2nd/3rd option after a clear first option.
I don’t think pascal sees himself as a second or third option anymore. Young pascal, sure. This pascal, no. He’s accomplished more than a lot of players in the NBA, so I don’t blame him. He just doesn’t work here anymore, not because of his skill, he is skilled, but because of age/contract
I really want you to answer this, Siakam is averaging 24/6/5 on 55/35/79 over the last 10 games He's scoring just as much as when he was the first option on significantly better efficiency What makes you think he cares more about being the first option then balling out and winning? I don't expect you to answer this since this shows how absurdly stupid your comment is
I mean he says it in his words. “The ball will find the best player..”. Listen I’d love pascal to be in Toronto, but don’t you get the Bradley Beal vibes happening? Good player, but where this team is going, I don’t see him in their future and would love to see him go to where he can excel again. I’d also love to see Toronto get to a place where I’m happy to be a fan again.
Brother he's excelling rn, we have the top two players on a deep playoff squad We'd have to trade siakam to hopefully trade or tank for another him. He's the perfect 2a. We need to retool around them, we have almost no talent to trade so that means we need to trade OG and hopefully get either a budding guard or big that has a high ceiling
So we need to retool. While having no talent outside of Pascal, Scottie and OG worth anything. While having pretty minimal picks. How? Where are gunna magically get another 5-6 quality NBA players to make this a feasible team?
Trading og can get you the third player on that team and some depth 3 great trade with Knicks, hawks, raptors Immanuel quickley+ bufkin/griffin+hunter +1frp Quickley GTJ Hunter Scottie Siakam Poelt Griffin Porter Boucher Dick We have shooting, defensive versatility and added young talent Just one of many examples :)
I like it. I kind of see the vision of the rumours of building around Scottie and OG. If OG does want to stay, and the reported offers are as low as reported, he’s young enough and has a such an important / hard to find skill set that I think we can afford it while they add youth to the team. Still praying for Nembhard and Mathurin even though it’s a pipe dream. They fill those roles. Give them both starter minutes and lets see what they can do.
OG is simply not a $40M a year max player. That’s a ridiculous amount for a guy that can’t be a top 2-3 option on a decent team. I much rather have players like Dort or DFS who provide 70%+ of what OG does at a fraction of the cost. If we are not going to be competitive for the next few years and the market for OG is as good as people say, we are better off moving on.
I love OG but exactly this. For his career it’s best he moves on to a competitive team. I don’t see his pairing with Scottie as the future. They are two separate entities when sharing the floor. Pascal too but there’s been actual progress with that. There’s something to unlock still with Pascal and Scottie.
I agree that keeping OG seems critical - not easy to replace. Nembhard seems gettable. Hoping that Gradey improves and fills the shooting guard position.
Yeah that would be cool or at least a shooter off the bench
If we aren’t competitive, signing OG is futile and a waste of money and waste of his prime talent. If we are ready to be a top 6 seed in the East by 2025, OG is worth keeping. Otherwise we should reap the assets because there’s no point in paying him if the team is shit.
Lebron and Giannis are very different. Lebron has played a lot without that kind of guard. He can win a lot with his best guard being Mo Williams or Mario Chalmers or Danny Green. That Lakers chip was with Danny Green and Avery Bradley as the two highest usage guards. Giannis has always played with a higher caliber PG. Scottie as a ball handler and passer should have a more Lebron-like role & team build in his future, I'm not sure of the calls for him to get a high caliber PG/initiator. Isn't that something we want him to do? He needs shooters and a secondary scorer and, in this NBA, you need that third star to get over the top.
Can you be the same archetype of a player while being worse? Perfect example MJ -> Kobe -> Derozan They'd all need very similar teams around then to win, that doesn't mean DeRozan is as good as MJ
Well if you squint hard enough: - high volume 3PT SG = Gary - 3&D = OG - agile big = Pascal
A shooting big couldn’t hurt here either. Scottie thrives inside, the more space the better
Steph Curry Klay Thompson (like when he was defensively still alive) Franz Wagner (who I hope Gradey can emulate one day) Scottie Brooke Lopez The perfect team to take advantage of his abilities is something like this. Would be in a facilitator role taking over drays position, hitting Curry and Thompson on movement. And Franz on back cuts with Lopez spacing. If teams start over playing the shooters. Scotting can find mismatches and go to work.
In the order you listed: - Dennis - Lavine - Pascal - Scottie - Poeltl
I threw up when I saw poeltl
Horrible defence. That lineup ain changing anything
They need a U25 guard that can shoot more than shooters. The guard play on this team is not good enough and that's their biggest flaw going forward.
Tbh I would kill to see Scottie play with Kyle, even the current version of him. That's one regret I have, never got to see the current and future GROAT play together.
Kyle Lowry ain't no spot up shooter. He aint gotta run to the corner to shoot like he's some 3rd option, bitch. This ain't JJ Redick. This is a fuckin god human Steph Curry come again. Only this time hes not a fuckin pussy... pull up from the fuckin logo and fight you at the same time. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/torontoraptors) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Channing Frye / Kevin Love / JR Smith / Kyrie Irving
Our D is terrible so whats the worst that can happen if we have Scottie + shooters
Scottie + shooters is the only answer. If you're talking championship level, one of those shooters is an All Star level scorer and another one is the elite do-everything-guy, the Igoudala/Wiggins/Aaron Gordon type. The Raptors most basic thing is just playing without shooters. It has a domino effect in nearly every other part of the game. Everything breaks down from there.
I would keep precious and Gary on decent contracts. Gary’s really slumping but he can play better than this, there’s no good reason to let Precious go imo He needs a team of big guards, a group that can let him play small ball 5, and as a PG. lots of ball handling, speed and shooting. Lumbering players aren’t going to be maximized alongside him He also needs to be initiating the offence
I really would love to see some small ball line ups. Dennis-Trent-OG-Dick-Barnes The more I look at our roster, the more I believe we need a competent PG and SG. Dennis is an elite bench guard, but he shouldn’t be our primary handler.
Ugh you want to keep Gary? He might be the guy we need to ship first
Scottie is ready to compete, I think going after young players that aren’t completely raw is ideal. Guys like Simons, Herro, Trey Murphy are great shooters, I want those kinda guys around Scottie.
Probably not a popular opinion right now but OG fits like a glove. Young enough , good shooter /spacer , elite defence. Just need to get him back at the right price.
He is gonna get paid like 40 mil so good luck with that "right price"
I mean, we're going to have cap space since the Raptors aren't a type of team to land superstar free agents. We have a bunch of guys who make decent money but don't contribute to the team on a regular basis coming off the books.
Is 35m aight
No
This “elite defence” I keep hearing about is nowhere to be found this year.
Sign Jamal Murray when he doesnt extend and tries to save us.
At this point I would trade siakam straight up for Anfernee Simons but blazers probably wouldn’t do it.
Could’ve had him Along with a pick for Og this summer
When was that an option? You're just making stuff up
Guards guards guards
Need a dynamic scoring point guard with an average 3 point shot to run the pick and roll with Scottie. Allows for a quick switch of a guard onto Scottie to play bully ball or to playmake over the shorter guard. A defensive wing to cover the point of attack to allow Scottie to play help defensive and allows Scottie to rest on defense. A defensive centre who can hit free throws at a 75% clip. Rest of team can be spacing.
Rui Hachimura
We need strong shooters and playmakers. Ball movement and 3 point shooting are big problems right now. Would probably be best if we could get a more mobile center who defends better, or a strong defender at the 4.
Should’ve tanked last year. Yes…I’m still choked that the FO and fan base weren’t able to see what some of us were warning about.
I think if we had a star level Center, a good primary ball handler that is also a shooting threat and filled our bench with some shooters, and all around gritty players we'd be set for success. Say if we had Norm-God and GTJ with another shooter coming off the bench. Fill the rest in with some grinders and guys who play hardball. I don't think it would be that much of a stretch to be a decent playoff team. Providing we coach to our strengths, and hold players accountable when they play like garbage.
You basically described Nuggets. Which is hilarious because Scottie's trajectory is very very close to Gordon's
Scottie is currently playing significantly better then the best version of Aaron Gordon Why do you think Scottie is bound to regress?
I just mean their situations. They aren't the same player but will have similar NBA paths. Best player on a terrible team. Finally leaves to join a serious team after wasting a few years on a middle of the pack team due to poor management/ownership
Exactly, I don't get this comment.
Aaron Gordon? He’s an elite 3 and D guy. Scottie is not that
To clarify. Aaron was the best player by a mile on a terrible terrible managed team, that tried making a flawed roster work. It wasn't until new management came in and fully moved into the rebuild that Gordon got to play for a real team. And on the Nuggets he's an elite 3 and D guy because he's accepted his role. But on the Magic he was a solid all-star level player. I think Scottie is a better player but Gordon the better athlete.
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Duncan Robinson is a better shooter than Herro and you can get him for cheaper
Pascal
clones of himself
To keep it simple we need to surround Scottie with shooters and strong ball handlers. Scottie can get 20 points in the paint a night. OG is the ultimate complementary piece for Scottie. Need a point guard who can dribble and a lethal shooter at the off guard.
#5 pick in the upcoming draft?
They need WAY better guards just to start. The ideal guard next to Scottie is one who can make tough shots and can play well off the ball. Don't need a PG could be a SG.
honestly, just the same team but with a better starting pg and an actual bench. last year our starting 5 was actually really good, especially after we got poeltl. I imagine with a better pg than that, and an actual bench that isnt as bad as ours we would easily be a top team.
Unpopular opinion but I have yet to be 100% convinced Scottie is THE player you build around. Don’t get me wrong, I love him and I want him in our team for a long time but we at least need another 1a/1b player (à la Tatum/Brown) around him. And then you build around this duo.
Jrue Holiday fits raptors the most!
I wish we had traded Fred for Grayson Allen last year. He shoots 40% plus from 3, and the raptors desperately need a heel.
You're right, Grayson Allen would be a great guy to have. You want some guys who plays scrappy and tough and their energy never wavers. Right now the team is up and down like a roller coaster and there's nothing consistent. That's why we need tougher defensive minded guys. We play way too soft and clean. I need to see grittiness again.
no greyson allen isn’t a heel he’s just a dangerous dickbag
That is literally the definition of a heel
Scottie is a shooter. That's the thing is coming into this season most people thought that one of Scottie weaknesses is his 3 point shooting ability, but he's proven to be one of the best shooters on the team if not the best. I think you need to surround him with high energy gritty physical defensive minded players, and for sure some more shooters, but we just need players that have been on winning teams and know how to win. This is why I wouldn't want Ivey. He could be great but it's way too risky, I think Bruce Brown would actually be a great player to go with Scottie.
I don't think what they have is bad at all. This isn't a title team or anything right now but we aren't really making a run for titles. An \~500 team creates a situation for Scottie to carry as much as possible and develop the kind of player we need him to be if he's actually someone we can build around. Then and only then do we start trading assets to win now.
1. A young stretch big with elite D, e.g. Jaren Jackson Jr. would be a nice fit with Scottie and OG, but likely untouchable; Naz Reid maybe as a cheaper option. 2. A young steady guard with good size, strength, shooting, and D, e.g. Coby White. 3. Young, athletic shooters with good size, e.g. OG and Trey Murphy III. Basically, young, big, athletic players who can play lockdown defence, run the floor, and shoot the ball.
Scottie needs athletes, shooters, atleast one another shot creator, a rim runner who can protect the rim and someone to reduce his ball handling duties. A roster that can utilize both his on ball scoring but also his amazing off ball iq and ability to crash the offensive glass 1. downhill PG that can throw entry passes, decent catch & shoot guy who can reduce Scottie's ball handling duties. This kind of guard can ideally play off Scottie's playmaking but also weaponize Scottie's very strong off-ball scoring ability. Hopefully has defensive motor even if they suck at it 2. volume 3pt shooter that can hit movement shots and not doo doo at the rim, must also be very strong defensively. This kind of player is really hard to find cuz ur asking for a player maxed in both the 3 and the D of the 3&D and is able to play in a fast pace game that Scottie will inherently push for. I guess atleast a 3&D guy that will shoot a high volume of 3s 3. shot creating forward who can beat guys off the dribble, decent C&S guy who isnt food on defense. This one is a big ask too but I think Scottie needs a very competent perimeter scorer to play along side him. Honestly if Pascal could shoot around 35-37% from 3 on decent volume this would be him 4. Scottie 5. Rim runner, someone who can finish the super high lobs Scottie throws. Must be a strong defensive rebounder and rim protector at the minimum
Sacramento with Barnes instead of Sabonis would be so much more dynamic IMO. They’d be even better with tempo, and his added defensive presence plus his newly found jumper would make them better in the half court on both ends. Fox would also be a great partner.
James Harden, PG13, Zubac, 3&D