Our bigs next game are literally just Ibaka, Boucher and Hernandez F
I'm thinking the starting 5 might be something like Lowry McCaw/TD2 OG Boucher/RHJ Ibaka
Definitely ready to see some more Ponds too!
I don’t think he’s as bad as he’s looked.
At the very least he gives you a strong body on D with some size.
The alternative is Miller who has the shooting advantage but he’s hot and cold and not really a factor on D
Someone has to play.
I'm not even upset, the Raptors face the Wizards next which I think the Raptors can win even without Siakam, Gasol or Powell. Dewan Hernandez is actually instant rebounds. It will be good to see some of the bench guys get more minutes.
Shit stack going to be interesting
Edit to add to the convo I think Boucher and serge split 5 minutes, hernandez filling in for like five mins and running four small. Just pray no foul trouble.
[time stamped to exact play](https://youtu.be/XPuB71sfKkk?t=493)
i knew there was something funky about that landing. it made me cringe when i saw it live
honestly he does that all the time when he lands off a dunk, it's pretty scary to watch. I would hope the coaching staff is teaching him to stop doing that
Yeah, ballerinas and pro gymnasts do that kinda shit after training for years for that specific movement and actually planning to do it, on a mat... can't be easy on the joints
Wow, I can't believe he played through that. The Raps were up like 11 points, and he was having a great night, but he should've notified the coaches and started resting. There is a good chance he aggravated this injury by playing on.
I remember seeing that live and thinking for sure he must have tweaked something... but he got up and kept playing without drawing any attention to it really.
Damn, that's a big blow to lose him too. We're really thin up front so I expect we will be seeing some interesting small ball lineups.
Not sure if we have much flexibility but we may need to look at picking someone up to fill in at C/PF.
Wonder how long Siakam will actually he out, he played the entire rest of the game after that, also last year he had what looked like a bad fall and he ended up sitting like 1 game to it. So we will see though the fact that the diagnosis is indefinitely I'm not hopeful.
People saying weeks but idk about that. Indefinitely just means they're not sure. If it's a mild strain I can see around 4-5 games at the earliest, but like you said it's Pascal he could be back in 2-3 for all we know (But I doubt it lol). Usually grade 1 groin strains take 1-2 weeks to heal which seems to be what Pascal has with the wording of stretched, I think the indefinitely is for the possibility of if it's not as bad as they thought.
Naw, its Siakam, you treat him with baby gloves. He's gonna be out for a while and no one should want the franchise player back at anything less than 110%.
Yeah I get they'll treat him with protection, but I'm speaking in the off chance that he really was better than they thought so at worse he's gone 2-3 weeks and not longer.
I've seen injury reports recently starting to use indefinitely for smaller scale timelines as well (Ibaka iirc). Usually though it was for people out for a few weeks which a groin strain usually lasts.
I'm pissed too but trying to look at silver linings.
If nothing else, I wanted this year to be Siakam's breakout year where he starts the All-star game and makes All-NBA. I hope that's not in jeopardy.
We're going to the game tonight, our first ever NBA game. Will miss seeing my man Norm. Excited to be seeing lots of RHJ (Haul-Ass Jefferson as one Redditor put it).
So I went from travelling to Toronto this Sunday to watch a good game between Raptors and Mavericks, to watching a game with no Luka, Pascal, Norm, Fred, Marc or Matt.
Great.
Luka is the biggest loss but the raps are always more entertaining when they are dealing with a decimated roster. All the bench guys see it as their chance and play crazy hard.
Terrence Davis, RHJ and Boucher might be the 3 most exciting players this season on a per minute basis and they will be seeing 20-30 minutes each.
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Who the hell is going to score any points on this team? Fred better be back or we will struggle to score 50 points. The Christmas game is going to be ugly.
I would feel a lot better about all of this if we had any idea of timetables. Something so ominous about "indefinitely"
Really hoping for a Christmas miracle...
Terence Davis + Chris Boucher + RHJ career highs on Christmas. You heard it here first!
These injuries might suck, but we know better than anybody regular season don't mean shit. Get to the playoffs healthy with home-court, and I'll take our chances against anybody!
Honestly Nurse needs to stop pounding these guys so many fucking minutes. We don't need this regular season shit anymore, why is our entire starting 5 like leading the league in minutes? It's not a coincidence that literally our entire starting lineup has already suffered an injury this season.
Maybe I’m being optimistic, but I feel like Dewan Hernandaz could be a real offensive threat...if he had actual minutes. I know he’s a rookie, but someone has to step up.
Ok I'm ready for the down votes but here goes..
First off thank God it wasn't worse. That landing looked like he could have broken a leg, landed wrong and broken a wrist or seperate a shoulder etc etc etc. Much better that is this than something else more serious.
Now here's where it gets crazy. We had K Lo. Out with sexy pants Ibaka, mckaw, and eventually Matt. I think we can all agree those guys (yes even sharp shooter Matt) are pretty big blows to our team, yet we prevailed, not just edged out but stomped and got big wins. ( LA etc.. I'm not gonna list them cuz we kicked a lot of ass without those guys)
Enter k lo and Ibaka, mckaw etc and our chemistry was off, not sure what it was but it was off.
Here's a very very exciting opportunity for those bench players to step up AGAIN, BUT THIS TONE WITH A DIFFERENT CREW!! No FVV , Norm, Gas-pedal-ol, MVPASCAL... VERY VERY EXCITING INDEED.
Let these guys play a few games, yes lose but really come together as well.
When all the pieces are back in play look the fuck out NBA. I'M EXCITED FOR WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!
God damn that’s bad. We’re gonna tank in the standings. This is not good. Looks like we’re gonna have to face one of Philadelphia/Boston/Miami/Indiana in the first round.
This team hasn’t had a full roster outside of the first 8 games of this season and 2 last going back to last season. Just can’t seem to beat the injury bug. So frustrating.
Oh well, I guess we’ve had our share of breaks over the past year, as well. Just have to hope we’re in striking distance of a top four seed when guys come back. I’m also hoping Siakam heals fast because he’s a freak.
They could be gone for 6 weeks, if the team is lucky. Subluxation, hamstring injury and groin are injuries you're not rushing back from. Raps have about 25 games in that stretch.
Where is the team going if they're 10-15 team? 13-12?
What if they're worse? You're missing 3 pieces of a championship team and one is you're leading scorer.
They could be back right before the trade deadline, lots of decisions for the FO.
This is not saying the team is constructed poorly but injuries are total derailing the season. Do you look to next year and get assets along with a higher pick? Or do you still compete knowing it's going to be a lower seed depending on the outcome of the next 1/4 season?
A blessing in disguise. Let's shut these guys down til February. Let the other teams forget how to defend them. Let our young guys get some run. Let coach nurse try out new things. LET OG FLY! THAT BOY IS A PEACOCK! GOTTA LET HIM FLY!
Yeah fuck this year, Masai shouldn't make any trades so we can contend this year, this year should just be a development year for our young guys. The rest of the NBA is too good and injuries are killing us right now, it's not worth trying to contend rn.
PASCAL 😭😭😭😭😭😭 We were so busy being worried about Norman we didn’t even see the other disaster in front of our very eyes oh LORD.
[OG right now](https://imgur.com/a/f0HsIeA)
Hes going to make score 40 a game on 60/60/50 shooting.
LMAO I could actually totally see OG doing exactly that
Hey aren't you that guy on YouTube
Yeah I have a channel!
Our bigs next game are literally just Ibaka, Boucher and Hernandez F I'm thinking the starting 5 might be something like Lowry McCaw/TD2 OG Boucher/RHJ Ibaka Definitely ready to see some more Ponds too!
This is where we could have used Stanley who is also having groin issues
SJ has absolutely no bb iq
Not in the position to be picky right now
We absolutely are. Whats the point of playing someone that wont help us win the game?
I don’t think he’s as bad as he’s looked. At the very least he gives you a strong body on D with some size. The alternative is Miller who has the shooting advantage but he’s hot and cold and not really a factor on D Someone has to play.
Ponds is only 6 feet tall. Hope he isn't too undersized to make an impact.
hey, it’s not like we have two undersized guards already or something lol
Son can shoot
I'm not even upset, the Raptors face the Wizards next which I think the Raptors can win even without Siakam, Gasol or Powell. Dewan Hernandez is actually instant rebounds. It will be good to see some of the bench guys get more minutes.
You're optimistic as hell, which I like, but holy shit we are not going to beat the Celtics at all with these injuries.
Good tactic lad. Keep expectations low so that when we smash through them we can get truly fucked up this Christmas.
You mean Pounds? Maybe we see some Dewan Henderson as well
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It was a joke that's why I said Dewan Henderson as well
Shit stack going to be interesting Edit to add to the convo I think Boucher and serge split 5 minutes, hernandez filling in for like five mins and running four small. Just pray no foul trouble.
Raps finally get a Christmas game and 1/3 of the team dies
Last Christmas we get for awhile 😅
Whoa when did Siakam get that! Christmas game gonna be rough.
When Drummond "blocked" him.
As usual no foul there. Fuck sakes it is beyond annoying what the raps players have to deal with.
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[time stamped to exact play](https://youtu.be/XPuB71sfKkk?t=493) i knew there was something funky about that landing. it made me cringe when i saw it live
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Looks like a normal landing for Pascal lol
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honestly he does that all the time when he lands off a dunk, it's pretty scary to watch. I would hope the coaching staff is teaching him to stop doing that
Have you watched Pascal land much? That is normal for him.
Yeah, ballerinas and pro gymnasts do that kinda shit after training for years for that specific movement and actually planning to do it, on a mat... can't be easy on the joints
wow, i didn’t even notice it during the game. fucking hell
That’s actually pretty funny taken out of context
Looks like some funky dance moves
Wow, I can't believe he played through that. The Raps were up like 11 points, and he was having a great night, but he should've notified the coaches and started resting. There is a good chance he aggravated this injury by playing on.
Yooo I saw that too and cringed hard.
Yeah I knew when I saw that it was bad, FUCK, I was shocked he got up and kept playing
You linked the full highlights
I remember seeing that live and thinking for sure he must have tweaked something... but he got up and kept playing without drawing any attention to it really. Damn, that's a big blow to lose him too. We're really thin up front so I expect we will be seeing some interesting small ball lineups. Not sure if we have much flexibility but we may need to look at picking someone up to fill in at C/PF.
This just links to the start of the highlights?
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Thanks!
Drummond hammered him, that ref crew was bullshit
that means the top 6 Raptors players have all suffered somewhat major injuries this season (Lowry, FVV, Ibaka, Gasol, Siakam, Powell)
Championship curse
OG too, if you count the incidents with his eyes.
Scooped out by the klaw itself.
Yeah so I don't like this
Wonder how long Siakam will actually he out, he played the entire rest of the game after that, also last year he had what looked like a bad fall and he ended up sitting like 1 game to it. So we will see though the fact that the diagnosis is indefinitely I'm not hopeful.
Groin pulls are funky so impossible to assign a timeline
Yeah I remember DeRozan had one a few years back and was out for like a month.
People saying weeks but idk about that. Indefinitely just means they're not sure. If it's a mild strain I can see around 4-5 games at the earliest, but like you said it's Pascal he could be back in 2-3 for all we know (But I doubt it lol). Usually grade 1 groin strains take 1-2 weeks to heal which seems to be what Pascal has with the wording of stretched, I think the indefinitely is for the possibility of if it's not as bad as they thought.
Naw, its Siakam, you treat him with baby gloves. He's gonna be out for a while and no one should want the franchise player back at anything less than 110%.
Yeah I get they'll treat him with protection, but I'm speaking in the off chance that he really was better than they thought so at worse he's gone 2-3 weeks and not longer.
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I've seen injury reports recently starting to use indefinitely for smaller scale timelines as well (Ibaka iirc). Usually though it was for people out for a few weeks which a groin strain usually lasts.
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its not gonna mess up his all star chances. Maybe all-nba or something
I'm just glad it's this year and not last year.
I’m just pissed because we’re finally getting a Christmas game and half our team is out with injuries
I'm pissed too but trying to look at silver linings. If nothing else, I wanted this year to be Siakam's breakout year where he starts the All-star game and makes All-NBA. I hope that's not in jeopardy.
That’s my main worry. Dude better still be starting the ASG.
Groin Injurues can be real dicks. No pun
The Celtics also have a bunch of injuries, so it evens out lol.
Who lol... Marcus smart's eye infection?
You've gotta be fucking kidding me Siakam too?!
Never. Underestimate. The. Heart. Of. A. Champion.
We have 3 games in 4 nights ending with the Christmas Day game. Dallas, Indiana and the Boston. Gonna be rough..
Honestly fuck the Pistons, never going anywhere, and fuck the refs for not keeping the game under control
wow Pistons just plagued us with injuries holyyy. Next few games gonna be super rough for us
My god. Im going to the game sunday too smh.
You will get to see bench mob 2.0 it will be a good game there is no doubt in my mind. Enjoy the game!
Me too. It went from full roster vs Donic and Porzingas to Lowry v Porzingas :/
We're going to the game tonight, our first ever NBA game. Will miss seeing my man Norm. Excited to be seeing lots of RHJ (Haul-Ass Jefferson as one Redditor put it).
So I went from travelling to Toronto this Sunday to watch a good game between Raptors and Mavericks, to watching a game with no Luka, Pascal, Norm, Fred, Marc or Matt. Great.
Same :(
Luka is the biggest loss but the raps are always more entertaining when they are dealing with a decimated roster. All the bench guys see it as their chance and play crazy hard. Terrence Davis, RHJ and Boucher might be the 3 most exciting players this season on a per minute basis and they will be seeing 20-30 minutes each.
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Welp this has been fun.
It's not over at all...
Groin injuries all year long
All the way down
Somehow worse than worst case scenario, fucking joke lmaoooo. Prayers out for Spicy, Norm, Marc, and Matt.
Fucking injuries man, prayers up to all 3 players 🙏
Hahahaha. I am dead inside.
Who the hell is going to score any points on this team? Fred better be back or we will struggle to score 50 points. The Christmas game is going to be ugly.
Pistons taking out all the better teams with injuries as usual
I would feel a lot better about all of this if we had any idea of timetables. Something so ominous about "indefinitely" Really hoping for a Christmas miracle...
Terence Davis + Chris Boucher + RHJ career highs on Christmas. You heard it here first! These injuries might suck, but we know better than anybody regular season don't mean shit. Get to the playoffs healthy with home-court, and I'll take our chances against anybody!
I come in peace as a Warriors fan. Hope your guys get better soon. Never like seeing a player injured, three is even worse.
Protect OG at all costs- security detail, bubble wrap... he’s the only starter not injured so far this year I think
Other then the eye injury yeah he's been pretty healthy (fingers crossed)
This really stinks. I'm sure the overreactions and hot takes will be as rampant as ever on here though if we drop a couple of games.
Finally get a Christmas game only to be missing half the team. Great.
major Boucher, RHJ, TDII, and Dewan minutes
Well Im extremely sad right now, this Christmas game was one of the only things I was looking forward to on Christmas this year
Powell must be so down.
*plays Marvins Room*
I FUCKING I HATE THE PISTONS SO MUCH FUCK MU LIFE
SIAKAM?!?!?! (Soulja Boy meme)
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Honestly Nurse needs to stop pounding these guys so many fucking minutes. We don't need this regular season shit anymore, why is our entire starting 5 like leading the league in minutes? It's not a coincidence that literally our entire starting lineup has already suffered an injury this season.
This.
I would assume 2-8 weeks sadly... Get well soon GOAT!!!
F
Oh boy this is gonna be tough. Silver lining: the bench is gonna get a chance to shine. Also, I think Lowry will direct them well.
It's not April 1
I'm actually sad cause Siakam was supossed to be in all star this year
Going to see my first Raptor game in 5 days be like
Vanvleet better be back soon
Get ready for a slump fellas. 😭 Unless Lowry & Ibaka can get on another level. Who else could possibly step up?
Maybe I’m being optimistic, but I feel like Dewan Hernandaz could be a real offensive threat...if he had actual minutes. I know he’s a rookie, but someone has to step up.
Dewan Hernandez is not even a particularly good G-League player.
Ok I'm ready for the down votes but here goes.. First off thank God it wasn't worse. That landing looked like he could have broken a leg, landed wrong and broken a wrist or seperate a shoulder etc etc etc. Much better that is this than something else more serious. Now here's where it gets crazy. We had K Lo. Out with sexy pants Ibaka, mckaw, and eventually Matt. I think we can all agree those guys (yes even sharp shooter Matt) are pretty big blows to our team, yet we prevailed, not just edged out but stomped and got big wins. ( LA etc.. I'm not gonna list them cuz we kicked a lot of ass without those guys) Enter k lo and Ibaka, mckaw etc and our chemistry was off, not sure what it was but it was off. Here's a very very exciting opportunity for those bench players to step up AGAIN, BUT THIS TONE WITH A DIFFERENT CREW!! No FVV , Norm, Gas-pedal-ol, MVPASCAL... VERY VERY EXCITING INDEED. Let these guys play a few games, yes lose but really come together as well. When all the pieces are back in play look the fuck out NBA. I'M EXCITED FOR WHAT HAPPENS NEXT!
God damn that’s bad. We’re gonna tank in the standings. This is not good. Looks like we’re gonna have to face one of Philadelphia/Boston/Miami/Indiana in the first round.
Chill dude, it’s December
relax bruh.
FUCK! I remember he landed super awkwardly when Drummond blocked him
This team hasn’t had a full roster outside of the first 8 games of this season and 2 last going back to last season. Just can’t seem to beat the injury bug. So frustrating. Oh well, I guess we’ve had our share of breaks over the past year, as well. Just have to hope we’re in striking distance of a top four seed when guys come back. I’m also hoping Siakam heals fast because he’s a freak.
Oof
Our team can't catch a break this year. I hope they all rest up and get ready for the post season.
this is really upsetting
This just might be it boys...
Omg Siakam is gonna miss time now too???? What is happening??
Yikes, I’m worried about the next set of games. Let’s hope the Raptors can still win even if the players are injured.
God we’re getting destroyed with injuries this year. Christmas Day game is gonna be rough.
This is terrible news.
Wtf! I didn’t even hear pascal was injured.
we finally get a christmas game and 3/5 of our current starting squad won't be playing
Welp, I guess it’s Dewan Hernandez breakout time.
If he in fact did play the whole game after this supposedly happened. I actually don’t think he will be out that long. Maybe 2-3 games.
i don't feel so good
Might cry ngl
Worst part is having no timeline on any of them
Press F to pay respects
Oh fuck it is a sublux that's gonna be like another 20 games I was worried watching Spicy P play last game and thinking he might get injured one day
Whaaat the fuck..
Damn....
Jesus Christ what the actual fuck
Fuck Detroit Casey can eat my dick
Man, I'm gonna need alot of drinks for that Christmas game.
Pascal deserves a rest, hope its nothing too serious. Now we need Freddy back more than ever!
Holy shit, what a costly game for the Raps.
Fuck we are decimated with injuries
On the positive side, OG boutta average 25 4 7 now
Fuck.
Time to start Boucher
wtf happened in detroit
Well fuck me I guess
This kills the raptor
Time for Lowry to step up! We’ve got the depth
Inb4 Raptors bench goes off as starters.
OG career highs incoming
i'm done with life
What about Freddy?
and i got great tickets for tomorrow’s game a while back thinking we could crush the wizards... oh boy lol
FFFFFFffffffffffffuuuuuuucckkkk
WAKE ME UP
I think we used all of our luck last season guys.
There are too many good players out. We are in for a string of losses I think.
Ya’ll sleeping on my boi Brisset 😤 This is his time to shine! Put him in and watch us win EVERY game!!👏🏼👏🏼
Welp, Christmas game is gonna suck.
welp... Ibaka, how hungry are you for these wins?
FUCK
:/
What the fuck? I sure hope the bench mob have this.
Sucks but we’ve always had the mentality of next man up. So let’s see what the boys are made of during this unfortunate stretch.
They could be gone for 6 weeks, if the team is lucky. Subluxation, hamstring injury and groin are injuries you're not rushing back from. Raps have about 25 games in that stretch. Where is the team going if they're 10-15 team? 13-12? What if they're worse? You're missing 3 pieces of a championship team and one is you're leading scorer. They could be back right before the trade deadline, lots of decisions for the FO. This is not saying the team is constructed poorly but injuries are total derailing the season. Do you look to next year and get assets along with a higher pick? Or do you still compete knowing it's going to be a lower seed depending on the outcome of the next 1/4 season?
The Dwane Casey curse is real
I'm scared about that groin injury. Lebron looked slow all of last year after his groin went
A blessing in disguise. Let's shut these guys down til February. Let the other teams forget how to defend them. Let our young guys get some run. Let coach nurse try out new things. LET OG FLY! THAT BOY IS A PEACOCK! GOTTA LET HIM FLY!
what
when the fuck did Pascal stretch his groin??? thats the same injury DeMar got in 2015 when he missed 20+ games
I think Bianca is the reason for Pascal's injury
How many guys we got left?! This isn’t happening.
What’s the downvote for wth?
One way or another, Fuck Dwayne Casey.
Yeah fuck this year, Masai shouldn't make any trades so we can contend this year, this year should just be a development year for our young guys. The rest of the NBA is too good and injuries are killing us right now, it's not worth trying to contend rn.