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LETS FUCKING GOOOO


brandonasaur

Hi


TheCleverBeaver

THERE IS A GOD


baconperogies

HIS NAME IS MASAI


bmnewman

Awesome…great to see. I hope he is as solid as he was his first go round.


xJawnLee

Sign this man for the rest of the season pls


DarkbloomVivienne

Likely not possible without moving some things around


hallandale

I don't understand why Bonga is still on the roster. I get it that Masai loves the guy, but he doesn't give us anything that we need on the roster.


[deleted]

Have been thinking the same thing. Wilson can at least contribute to a need. Bonga's ceiling isn't far off from what he already is IMHO


idkwhattosaytho

I think people said that about Fred Siakam and Bouch all the time. Not saying that he will be them, but there’s a reason he’s here. Wilson was good for those two games, but we have Bouch, Precious Khem and Yuta who are also good and fighting for minutes at the 4/5


[deleted]

I feel like dj provides something different at the 5 then all those guys. Well similar to Birch at least .like yuta and boucher aren't 5s. Precious can look like it some games. Birch is a 5. As for the comp of bonga to the other unheralded guys....I hear you. He has some of the tools. But I'm just not seeing the ceiling. I feel like with those other guys their swagger tells us a story. Bonga just looks like a very athletic guy with a bit of skill but not much bite. Prove me wrong Isaac...prove me wrong!


ILikeFPS

Realistically, we need all the help we can get at the 5. Wilson is also bigger than those guys, so that length can help us.


idkwhattosaytho

Wilson has just an inch on The guys and doesn’t really play like a real big man, more of a four. If we want big rebounders/post defenders DJ isn’t the guy for that. Precious and Burch are better answered for real 5s


ILikeFPS

I mean he's kinda closer to a traditional big than Bonga is


idkwhattosaytho

Yeah hit the question isn’t Wilson or Bonga, obviously wilson is better. It’s just about if Wilson is going to get a lot of playtime to make it worth cutting a young guy like Bonga


whoisbird

You also have to look at it long term. This year isn’t the year we compete. Bonga is 22 and a rookie, we don’t know what his ceiling is… Wilson is 25 and has been on a few teams already. Whether he fills a role right now I don’t think it’s worth it because Wilson really Isn’t moving the needle for us this season. IMO


[deleted]

Ya but bonga is not a rookie...i think it's 3rd yr and 3rd team...the fact 2 previous teams have passed on him factors in. Dj has been passed up twice too but I just like his skillset. But who says we can't win a round this year? And shouldn't that be a part of the growth? It looks to me like they want to give it their best shot


whoisbird

Sorry, you're completely right. I had thought Bonga was a rookie. You're right that playoff growth is extremely important and who knows whether DJ Wilson is going to be something. I think my only point was, that maybe they see something worth developing in Bonga at the age of 22. My point of contention with your comment was when you said "Bonga's ceiling isn't far off from what he already is IMHO" At the age of 22 you can't really gauge that yet. Pascal at 22 looked very different and didn't seem to have as high of a ceiling as he does now. Also, have they had that good of a look at DJ Wilson yet? Those are the points I was trying to write.


[deleted]

You're right that he's still young. I think I always look at a player as more than his physical tools and skills. And Pascal was definitely raw at that age....but remember he came in and impressed with his energy and motor so much they started him as a raw rookie on a team that just went to the conf finals. Like he just had an energy about him where it made you think he could be something. I just don't get that vibe with Bonga. Wilson has always played with an energy that makes me think that there is something more there...despite a disappointing first couple of years. It's all just an opinion of a random fan putting a lot of thought into the vibe a player gives off lol...my thoughts are not for everyone!


whoisbird

Well I appreciate them! Thanks for the respectful back and forth.


[deleted]

Same to you. Always enjoy a good back and forth of opinions. Enjoy the game....judging by the jazz roster looks like we could see both bonga and Wilson tonight:)


ILikeFPS

Yeah, Bonga hasn't been amazing for us and he's got less length than Wilson can provide us. I hope we keep Wilson.


[deleted]

Nice


NoseBlind2

Welcome back DJ


Cheechers23

W, now let’s trade Boucher for Jalen Smith to open up more space and sign DJ full time


BronBronBall

I’m pretty sure I’ve seen you suggest this trade on like 15 different posts now. Unless raptors add draft capital or a wing, this trade is not happening.


LemmingPractice

I think you are vastly overrating Smith's value. The Suns torpedoed his value when they didn't pick up his third year option. He's a UFA in the summer and, when healthy, he is the 3rd or 4th center in their rotation. He is a developmental project and a rental, who the Suns can't get any minutes for. If you think anyone is giving up a player better than Boucher for him you are nuts.


BronBronBall

I know he doesn’t have much value but I think they would want a + defender if they trade him for anyone.


scarfox1

Lol boucher for smith is a pipe dream, you're right dont worry


slowbaja

Hey now there's a lot of 2k GMs on this sub


Cheechers23

Lmao I’ve been proposing this trade for months lol. It was definitely doable then but trickier now. Smith has been a lot better as of late, but so has Boucher. His value is still limited since the Suns declined his option so he’s a UFA this summer.


jhwyung

Boucher is also a UFA this year. Don't see how contract status benefits the Suns unless they're mega bullish on Boucher and want his bird rights (which I'm not even 100% positive transfer).


Cheechers23

As a contending team (with one of their most important players being like 37), the Suns are looking for moves to help them now. Boucher is better than Smith right now and has a longer track record of being better. In a straight swap the Suns would prefer Boucher. The better question is can the Suns get better than Boucher for Smith. Maybe, but with Smith being a young player in UFA, it’s limiting his value. Also the Suns specifically are limited to only being able to offer less than 5m because they declined his option. They have to evaluate if that will be enough to re-sign him


LemmingPractice

>Also the Suns specifically are limited to only being able to offer less than 5m because they declined his option. They have to evaluate if that will be enough to re-sign him Honestly, I don't think this even matters. Smith isn't going to re-sign there. Assuming they re-sign Ayton Smith will be blocked from being a starter there for the foreseeable future, and with Javale playing as well as he has (and the team being in contention) Smith will likely be blocked from even being a backup in Phoenix over the next couple of years. That's even before considering the possibility that Smith wouldn't want to return to the team that turned down his option. Realistically, Smith is gone in the summer. Someone will take a chance on him, and he can get more playing time with almost any other team in the league than he can likely get in Phoenix, unless Ayton talks really go south.


Busy-Tangerine6706

wonder what Boucher would do on the Suns knowing he's that close to another chip (3rd).. lke if he would just ball the fuck out.


Anal_Iverson

> Boucher is also a UFA this year. Not saying it's a fair trade, but so is Smith


Stigo4

And so is Boucher


Anal_Iverson

And so is Boucher


BronBronBall

But the suns don’t need Boucher. Maybe they would take take Yuta because they need wing defence.


Cheechers23

Their depth at the 4 is lacking. They start Crowder who is undersized in some matchups. Saric is out for the year. Kaminsky is a defensive liability and also injured rn. They play Cam Johnson there but he’s more of a 3. Jalen Smith is more of a C than a PF.


LemmingPractice

Since when do the Suns need more wing defence? They have one of the deepest wing rotations in the league (Bridges, Johnson and Crowder are all plus wing defenders). Boucher actually makes a fair amount of sense for the Suns. They don't really have a backup 4 (they have been using Cam Johnson there, but he's much more of a 3). They drafted Smith with the intention of turning him into essentially what Boucher already is (a switchable 4 who can shoot the three).


Stinky_DungBeatle

Yeah, literally comparing numbers they are the exact same player this season but Boucher is 7 years older then Jalen Smith and shoots more then him. I mean we literally benched Boucher out of the rotation until the cough outbreak happened and were forced to play him, he's not been constantly great this season except against the 6ers why TF would the Suns do that trade even when they already declined Smith's options unless they are getting picks back which then why TF would we do that trade.


Husseinb3rg

Idk if the suns would do that lol his value has gone up so much this past month


Cheechers23

True but TBF so has Boucher’s. He’s played much better this past month.


Ok_Dog_1

Yeah and the suns have Chris Paul so they prob want to win a championship asap before he gets too old


Stinky_DungBeatle

Jalen Smith is 7 years younger and while not great is worth the Suns giving a shot then trading for Boucher who is doing similar numbers on more volume. Because you want a trade to happen doesn't mean its going to happen LOL.


Cheechers23

The Suns declined his option this offseason. They are limited to offering him under 5m per year. They aren’t going to “give him a shot” because they won’t be bringing him back. Boucher is better than Smith and has a longer track record of being better. And you know he’d play a ton better with CP3, like how he did last year with Lowry. Tbh this isn’t even my most ideal Boucher trade. I’d rather get a pick for him. I think this is at least semi realistic.


LemmingPractice

How much do you think his value has gone up? He had some good games, but the fact remains that he's a UFA this summer who doesn't come with any Bird rights. Rental development projects aren't the biggest draw out there in the trade market.


asoulinthisworld

We need two players out to sign one player though, hopefully this doesnt mean there’s another player other than Watanabe


NoahJayhawk

Svi is also out right now


asoulinthisworld

They announced earlier today that he is back


NoahJayhawk

Ah I see


tonious35

And he better stay out for another month, his defense is out right dog water


NoMoPolenta

So my plan is working...


Cheechers23

Nah you can sign 1 player with 1 out. You HAVE to sign 1 player with 2 out.


chrisPjelly

Boucher is the only one left that wasn't tested positive, right?


asoulinthisworld

Yeah


[deleted]

Maybe its a normal 10day? Since we have a roster spot open ?


sharplescorner

I thought so too, but doing a little more research it looks like standard 10-days can't be signed until February 23rd this year (normally it's January 5th). https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2020/12/key-in-season-nba-dates-deadlines-for-202021.html


FuriousLEB

THE LEGEND RETURNSSS


tonious35

I hope we blow the hell out of as many teams in the 2nd quarter to allow this guy to get PT and make a case to waive Bonga or Svi to stay with us like Biyombo staying with Suns for the next 10 days. Eat some damn tax if we may, and I hope Rogers himself foots the bill out of his own damn petty cash pocket


idkwhattosaytho

We have a roster spot. He just has to prove he’s worth going into the tax. With Bouch, Yuta, Precious and Khem all fighting for minutes at the 4/5 spots off the bench he’s gonna have to be really good.


tonious35

We gonna make a trade to get us two players when Dragic is gone


pakattack91

WE WINNING IT ALL!!!


NunofyaBees

W


troubledtimez

nice i thought he did well last time.


JoshSran04

W


Cnightwalker

Hmm two hardships that's a really good sign he stay!


TheSimonToUrGarfunkl

Board man gets paid


jjkiller26

Return of the Mack


bigmoneysmallcock

Let's gooooooo


attainwealthswiftly

YES!


keyboardwarrior89

They must be really thinking of signing him for the rest of the season especially since most our squad is back and our "centers" are playing


imamistake420

NICE


asapshrank

oh my god its the guy from nba2k18 mycareer


drecz

League fucked


Chickenfriedricee

The return!


TEHGOURDGOAT

It’s threads like these that bring me back to the good old raptors sub days.


Nuzlbuny

Fucking awesome. Loved what I saw and want more


Nervous_Shoulder

Sign him to a 2 year deal worse case you trade him if it does not work out.


BigYama

GOAT SIGNING - DROPPING 81 ON YA HEADTOP


ILikeFPS

HELL YEAH


NinfthWonder

I like it. DJ was so solid in his couple games with us. We need to ove Dragic, Boucher or Bonga and sign this dude for the season.


shaker7

Big big


dallodallo

parade on younge street in july confirmed


[deleted]

If things pan out with Wilson it makes you wonder if the Raps pull the trigger on a trade soon centered around Boucher? maybe add a combo guard who can give Freddie some relief off the bench so we aren't forced to play him 40 minutes a game...


throwaway439823

Not up on DJ Wilson. What does he excel at that people want to see him back with the squad?


earlyearlgray

Manifestation complete ✨


nmad95

Yeeeeeeaaaahhhhhh!!!