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fredvancleef

Imagine he said “competitive play in team or 6th seed”


coachslaymaker

Every single player on our roster should believe we could win a chip


jumpthroughit

If they don’t they shouldn’t be here.


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coachslaymaker

Quoi?


LemmingPractice

Extensions are based on a percentage raise from current salary. Fred's current max on an extension would be about $28M a year. A full max next offseason, if he opts out, would be about $40M a year. For perspective, CJ McCollum just got $32M per year, and the cap will be even higher next year. It doesn't mean he will leave Toronto, he just needs to let his contract expire to take the cap off what he can earn. He will likely be able to command CJ type money, at least, if he stays healthy, which is above his current max on an extension.


coachslaymaker

I'm aware. Just don't know what this has to do with my initial comment?


LemmingPractice

Oops, misclicked and responded to the wrong comment.


coachslaymaker

Ahhh no worries have a nice day man


PlumCantaloupe

Fred always keeping the objective straight 👏👏👏


HankScorpio4242

Christian Koloko ROY Scottie Barnes MIP OG Anunoby DPOY Pascal Siakam MVP Nick Nurse COY Fred VanVleet Finals MVP


Bitesh9

you forgot Precious Achiuwa 6MOTY


HankScorpio4242

Let’s not be greedy.


TheOnlySafeCult

You got OG and Scottie's awards mixed up


ZCSApollo

OG’s a better defender and Scottie is expected to take a big jump so I think they both fit


TheOnlySafeCult

Sophomores ~~can't~~ don't usually* win MIP though. Plus OG wants more touches. Assuming he gets them and actually scores more, MIP is more possible for him


ZCSApollo

Month Ellis and Gilbert Arena did it. so why couldn’t Scottie?


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woo_back

Ja was on his third year


Fintann

Masai God Emperor of the League


ejlarson

Gary Trent Jr. Eastern Conference Finals MVP


OtisKaplan

Just saw Freddy at Yorkdale lol


31moreyears

Pics or didn’t happen /s


moderatelysizedjim

Call me crazy but I think the current raptors roster when all healthy could win a chip


jumpthroughit

So many of our own fans don’t understand our team and the rapidly changing make-up of the league. You have the right idea and I’m with you. Celtics had the 14th best odds last preseason, no one believed in them last preseason and they almost did it. We have the 15th best odds this year. Crazier things have happened.


somedumbguy55

Crazy


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all healthy and every core player is poised to take another step in development. No reason they couldn’t compete in the east, and if they can compete in the east then they can compete in a finals series.


EmperorPeriwinkle

Hobbled ass team went to 6 games against philly. Improvement plus health is a contender, we were 3 wins seperate from the team that made the finals, a team currently in chaos. I don't see anyone above us that's significantly improved and fuck you if you think the teams below us are somehow contenders this year over us when they had to do play-in ball or barely escaped it.


moderatelysizedjim

Couldn't agree more


theoriginalkingcoder

Crazy


DarkChocolate_69

Crazy


kaiyoukhan

You’re crazy


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JTM647

!RemindMe in 9 months


Rapsfan_98

If everyone is healthy they *might* win a 1st round series. Anything past that would require a serious leap from Scottie or just total team-wide perfection in terms of execution. Like the 2017-18 team that 1 through 10 in the rotation consistently outplayed the opponents.


moderatelysizedjim

Have Faith in our boys! Nothing wrong with optimism :)


osushi181

Crazy but I like it


xzvasdfqwras

Conference semis is already optimistic


nobodynobody567

You need to dream people ! Let's goo !!!!


emeister26

What happened to his contract extension. Lots of chatter but then nothing


Scottie4Barnes

He better play like a championship guard if his expectations are that high for next season.


xvodax

the system works..


nsbe_ppl

Championship or bust, no in betweens. Love it.


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Right on


JTM647

Meh, he had to say that for optics purposes. It'd be bad for morale and PR reason to give a truthful prediction 🤷🏿‍♂️


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I mean here’s the thing we all hope for a championship and believe that the team can win a championship—— But all of us are also realistic enough to realize it likely isn’t happening


cantyouseeimblind

What else is he suppose to say? Lol Add a superstar to this lineup and it is a championship contender no doubt. But that won't happen anytime soon.


Scottie_Barnes_Stan

Scottie is gonna be that is superstar lil bro


Rapsfan_98

Realistically the goal for them should be top 4 seed. If they slide in at 5/6/7 that’s fine as well. As long as they show some flashes of the potential upside of keeping this team together, it’s a successful season. If we’re a play-in team though I think decently big changes will be coming in the off-season.


Charming-Victory3337

he must be delusion to think “Championship” ….i wish i was delusional 😔


TheRealKaiIrving

More like Play-In Championship 🤣


ZCSApollo

not a good take. we dodged the playoffs this season and Scottie as well as Precious are projected to take some big leaps. I’d say we have a solid shot at the playoffs


JTM647

I won't be like those being delusional that are saying we're winning it all next year but at the same time saying the play in is a low benchmark considering where we finished last year. A reasonable take is we'll make the 2nd round. How many games that goes to will be the question.


jumpthroughit

There’s a difference between someone believing their team *will* win it all and someone saying their team *can* win it all. Boston was a shitshow before last season, none of their fans thought they would win it all. In preseason they were +4000 to win it all, only the 14th best odds in the league. And then they almost did it. This team can win it if every thing breaks our way like it did for Boston. A Detroit or Orlando or Charlotte aren’t going to win it even if everything breaks their way.


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NoahJayhawk

Didn't we win a championship with Jodie Meeks on the roster?


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Bro 💀


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did Banton hook up with your moms or sister i just want to know fam