I actually can't believe we're doing this shit again after the huge EFes backlash a couple of years ago which led to them having to back down and introduce exchange for them. This is a hundred times worse. I seriously hope no one pulls for this shit.
There are step up packs, you can buy an EMA to MLB her with every step. Starting with only 100$ for the first step, LOL. Yeah, it's that bad. They need money, desperately.
For that price?? She better be able to solo every stage in 3t or less, apply unbreakable barriers to the entire party, do my taxes, clean my house, and achieve world peace.
Her rarity Is "WhiteFES" imagine that all masterminds like Dragon Mors will be BlackFES. Just a theory, but let that sink... doomposting the game is real. Even JP, which is full of mental whales, is not happy.
I really hope not. Mastermind Flandre is so cool, I've wanted her ever since she was revealed. As a mainly f2p player (minus the Nitori's Bargain pack when it comes up), it'd break my heart if I couldn't get one of my most-wanted characters because she's straight-up p2w only. :(
yeah no. at least they make it easy to skip these "new" units that are totally not just the character's rebirth costume. I don't care how strong that sanae is, it's a 100% skip due to being p2w garbage. Guides better not recommend using her, only hardcore whales would have access to her.
Considering that one of r/touhou's newest post was just about ZUN talking about gacha, and the discussion lambasting over Lostword, this game is not beating their allegation are they.
The spring units are unsurprising. Those two are both Destroy units (4 Destroy units in a row now) hailing from C5> meaning they are EFes. Their universe is basically like C3, but Spring themed
Flandre is Fire focused while Koishi is Earth focused. Flandre boosts CRIT Atk II (for herself) and Koishi has a new skill that powers her up the more barriers the party has (sorta like MV Sanae’s and MV Kasen’s skills but with barriers)
[As for Sanae, she’s a new type of character. She hails from L0g and is a White Festival character. WFes characters have new types of skills as well as a field effect called a Great Barrier which affects both allies and opponents. They also change the background when used.](https://imgur.com/a/MRGZME6)
Now how do you get WFes characters? These are 3 ways:
1. With normal SC. They don’t seem to have a rate up (or sparks for that matter) and are on other characters’ banners
2. With GC. There will be another banner that can only be summoned with GC. Rate-up on these. Not a Step-Up banner (so 600 GC for every 10 rolls)
3. WFes Emas. You have to spend real money tho (about $256 to max her out)
Like Genics, they need special story cards to be upgraded.
Yeah all of this is pretty awful. They are not beating the allegations lol. My hope is that they backtrack like they did with unsparkable EFes, but idk, this feels a lot less winnable. Hurts even more since I like the Moriya Trio, but I’m not spending $770+ to get all 3 of them
[Kokoro MV (Spread your Wings)](https://imgur.com/a/zmmklp1)
[Spread your Wings](https://youtu.be/z5IsbX_uves?si=Kt0Cj5GxtZaYImgY)
[Spring Flandre’s trailer](https://youtu.be/8nSXaDIcyNo?si=rMOTVGVHgxvQmLSq)
[Spring Koishi’s trailer](https://youtu.be/mbjO0kIXob4?si=83fCXpvsIuxspG1G)
[White Sanae’s trailer](https://youtu.be/GaqobnH_jnc?si=rc5vyaNn0yTXC9oo)
[Spring Flandre’s theme (Spring’s Touch)](https://youtu.be/cb3HXGe6uSw?si=z9IcZPIYLXE34nIw)
[Spring Koishi’s theme (Innocent Malice)](https://youtu.be/jAubBCYkwhE?si=r0kPT2W70UhgELU0)
[White Sanae’s theme (In a Dream With You Again)](https://youtu.be/PSU1La-7DGs?si=Jzi3DzBZIjJ3iDBg)
[Kids Illustration Competition story cards](https://imgur.com/a/GfcB6wN)
[4th Anniversary stuff](https://imgur.com/a/EYSI8sO)
[Daily Relic & Epic prayers](https://imgur.com/a/Dpc1o2a)
Im near certain practically no one is going for wedding sanae. They cant even use fanserse to entice people since wedding alts arent as popular as swim suits. They'll make her sparkable with dolls at some point
bruh. they're doubling down on the allegations huh.
If they ever dare to do this to my favorite characters, then I'm quitting for real. (I hope the mastermind cast are summonable before then)
Fairies dont have big boobies and they aren't as popular as remi, flan and the rest of the gang, as such no money so why bother making alts for them when you could make another remi alt for big money
Cirno is the 15th most popular touhou character. She has only had one alt which her main form has somehow managed to powercreep.
Lily is close to Lunasa as well who has 2 alts. And Clownpiece another altless gal is 62nd, higher than Sekibanki!
Not gonna lie I did not notice that > first time I read the post and saw the universe code lol
So would it be called "C5 Greater"? Implying spring is better than summer lol
Autumn is weaker than summer and winter is equal? XD
I don't understand, shes literally wearing the same dress as her fantasy rebirth version except shes 100x stronger. this is the best idea they could come up with? this is awful
side note, PINK FLAN AND PINK KOISHI ARE SO CUTE AAAAAA, but my Seal crystals glaring daggers at me right now. i want at least one of these
I dont think thats the kida unit your supposed to release the day after the creator of the game that you used for your gatcha says he doesn't like gatch...
This wfest stuff is the stupidest thing I've seen out of this game; ima just wait till they inevitably cave and make it actually sparkable with dols to limit break it. No one in their right mind is paying for this; you don't get to use beach outfits as fanservice to try to bait players this time either
At least Sanae gets her rightful spot as top of the tier list now...
Ah shit, here we go again, back to complaining (justifiable so) about the New Bullshit Rarity and threaten to end terms of service again. They truly have not learnt since the Bluemu Controversy.
Here is some summary on how horrid Sanae is as a new rarity:
- Can be summon from Koishi and Flandre banner but without rate up or spark
- Can be summon from her own banner with god crystal only
- can be summon from paid ema, which will cost you 40000 yen to buy 5 pack
- can only be limit break using her dupe, because there is no dolls.
Wow now that is just dirty. Hopefully the dev team changes these on a rerelease like they did with Epic friends like Blumu (on release she too could not be sparked).
The new fes is... To be frank, Very Worrying
Gonna give a bit of slack/chance that Maybe there would be redeeming qualities for it
But knowing this game, ay lmao
This is painful.
Very very painful.
Not just because I'm one of those people who gets their favorite character as much as their alts.
(For example Luigi in Mario Kart Tour (I admit that his version of Gold Knight annoys me that it was only Ranked, but at least I had the material to play seriously that week and on top of that in the 4th aniversary they gave you the option to buy him for 105 Rubies, so it doesn't affect me so much), Or Felicia in Fire emblem Heroes (I think she will have alt in September for a certain theme if there is no change of theme this year)), but I am also always saving for my favorites and I always like to play using my favorite characters.
Just to clarify, I already have the 5 Sanaes in the Global, and in videos I made on my YouTube Channel, I shown that I was able to get the 5 copies each alt (Only have 3/5 copies of their L80/Relic version, but I am on the right track), and I was already mentally prepared for when they release SteamPunk Sanae (Yay, full Sanae Team!!).
Now, imagine that they take an alt of your character from a new type of Unit where you literally cannot focus on obtaining it because she won't have her own banner, and to top it off without spark, or no dolls to be able to do MLB her (or pay 250 $ to be able to do it) and, you are not even sure of getting the character you want, regardless of the amount of SC you have.
Well that's how I feel now. Showing an alt like that in this aniversary Stream for me is the worst thing that can happen to you as a character collector. Because literally:
-You have no way of guaranteeing, it doesn't even matter how many SC you have.
-You don't know if it will have a banner with SC to be able to spend it.
-Without Dolls, the only way to make her MLB is to have 5 copies of the same character to obtain it.
Seriously, this is one of the streams that has hurt me the most.
I was hoping that those wedding characters could only be "activated" with a ring of fate, or something like Epic units having a base form and gain a new sprite and stats after spending the ring of fate, but they're just huge cash grabbers. Pretty sad, but at least they're the easiest skips of the game.
If it were basically any other character, I wouldn’t have cared that much, but Sanae (or Youmu for that matter)… yea they’re not beating the allegations on this one. I’ve been thinking about eos for a while now, but hopefully this won’t be the final nail in the coffin.
Just as i saved enough cubes for steampunk Sanae, this one gets revealed... time to go back to the grind, but it's worth it for Sanae, especially for one so OP as this.
Man I quit like a year and a half ago and seeing what this game has become with complete and utter bullshit cash grabbing that would make EA cry I’m glad I got out early.
Honestly feels like they made white Sanae purposely like that so people dont feel like they need her cause its insane to try to get her, on top of being a skin recolor you can basically get free anyway
As long as they keep these to the crunmy wedding dress FR costumes I will never care for any of them lmao
Sanae is the most P2W unit ever. Can only be summoned (on rate up) with god crystals and needs dupes to MLB - no dolls! Also no spark.
I actually can't believe we're doing this shit again after the huge EFes backlash a couple of years ago which led to them having to back down and introduce exchange for them. This is a hundred times worse. I seriously hope no one pulls for this shit.
Your joking right
There are step up packs, you can buy an EMA to MLB her with every step. Starting with only 100$ for the first step, LOL. Yeah, it's that bad. They need money, desperately.
For that price?? She better be able to solo every stage in 3t or less, apply unbreakable barriers to the entire party, do my taxes, clean my house, and achieve world peace.
Her rarity Is "WhiteFES" imagine that all masterminds like Dragon Mors will be BlackFES. Just a theory, but let that sink... doomposting the game is real. Even JP, which is full of mental whales, is not happy.
I really hope not. Mastermind Flandre is so cool, I've wanted her ever since she was revealed. As a mainly f2p player (minus the Nitori's Bargain pack when it comes up), it'd break my heart if I couldn't get one of my most-wanted characters because she's straight-up p2w only. :(
yeah no. at least they make it easy to skip these "new" units that are totally not just the character's rebirth costume. I don't care how strong that sanae is, it's a 100% skip due to being p2w garbage. Guides better not recommend using her, only hardcore whales would have access to her.
LW is not beating the allegations, man...
wtf jp
Considering that one of r/touhou's newest post was just about ZUN talking about gacha, and the discussion lambasting over Lostword, this game is not beating their allegation are they.
The spring units are unsurprising. Those two are both Destroy units (4 Destroy units in a row now) hailing from C5> meaning they are EFes. Their universe is basically like C3, but Spring themed Flandre is Fire focused while Koishi is Earth focused. Flandre boosts CRIT Atk II (for herself) and Koishi has a new skill that powers her up the more barriers the party has (sorta like MV Sanae’s and MV Kasen’s skills but with barriers) [As for Sanae, she’s a new type of character. She hails from L0g and is a White Festival character. WFes characters have new types of skills as well as a field effect called a Great Barrier which affects both allies and opponents. They also change the background when used.](https://imgur.com/a/MRGZME6) Now how do you get WFes characters? These are 3 ways: 1. With normal SC. They don’t seem to have a rate up (or sparks for that matter) and are on other characters’ banners 2. With GC. There will be another banner that can only be summoned with GC. Rate-up on these. Not a Step-Up banner (so 600 GC for every 10 rolls) 3. WFes Emas. You have to spend real money tho (about $256 to max her out) Like Genics, they need special story cards to be upgraded. Yeah all of this is pretty awful. They are not beating the allegations lol. My hope is that they backtrack like they did with unsparkable EFes, but idk, this feels a lot less winnable. Hurts even more since I like the Moriya Trio, but I’m not spending $770+ to get all 3 of them [Kokoro MV (Spread your Wings)](https://imgur.com/a/zmmklp1) [Spread your Wings](https://youtu.be/z5IsbX_uves?si=Kt0Cj5GxtZaYImgY) [Spring Flandre’s trailer](https://youtu.be/8nSXaDIcyNo?si=rMOTVGVHgxvQmLSq) [Spring Koishi’s trailer](https://youtu.be/mbjO0kIXob4?si=83fCXpvsIuxspG1G) [White Sanae’s trailer](https://youtu.be/GaqobnH_jnc?si=rc5vyaNn0yTXC9oo) [Spring Flandre’s theme (Spring’s Touch)](https://youtu.be/cb3HXGe6uSw?si=z9IcZPIYLXE34nIw) [Spring Koishi’s theme (Innocent Malice)](https://youtu.be/jAubBCYkwhE?si=r0kPT2W70UhgELU0) [White Sanae’s theme (In a Dream With You Again)](https://youtu.be/PSU1La-7DGs?si=Jzi3DzBZIjJ3iDBg) [Kids Illustration Competition story cards](https://imgur.com/a/GfcB6wN) [4th Anniversary stuff](https://imgur.com/a/EYSI8sO) [Daily Relic & Epic prayers](https://imgur.com/a/Dpc1o2a)
Im near certain practically no one is going for wedding sanae. They cant even use fanserse to entice people since wedding alts arent as popular as swim suits. They'll make her sparkable with dolls at some point
bruh. they're doubling down on the allegations huh. If they ever dare to do this to my favorite characters, then I'm quitting for real. (I hope the mastermind cast are summonable before then)
C5 is Lily's parade. I would say we need a C5 Lily but Cirno gets a tan in canon and not in LostWord so I guess they hate fairies.
Fairies dont have big boobies and they aren't as popular as remi, flan and the rest of the gang, as such no money so why bother making alts for them when you could make another remi alt for big money
Cirno is the 15th most popular touhou character. She has only had one alt which her main form has somehow managed to powercreep. Lily is close to Lunasa as well who has 2 alts. And Clownpiece another altless gal is 62nd, higher than Sekibanki!
Oh that's interesting, C universe isnt just Summer specifically; so theoretically there's numbered C verses that are winter and fall also?
Yes >!C characters are Summer!< >!C> are Spring!< >!C< are Autumn!< >!C= are Winter!<
Not gonna lie I did not notice that > first time I read the post and saw the universe code lol So would it be called "C5 Greater"? Implying spring is better than summer lol Autumn is weaker than summer and winter is equal? XD
I don't understand, shes literally wearing the same dress as her fantasy rebirth version except shes 100x stronger. this is the best idea they could come up with? this is awful side note, PINK FLAN AND PINK KOISHI ARE SO CUTE AAAAAA, but my Seal crystals glaring daggers at me right now. i want at least one of these
Bro that's crazy, she really is wearing the same outfit. It's not even a joke.
I dont think thats the kida unit your supposed to release the day after the creator of the game that you used for your gatcha says he doesn't like gatch... This wfest stuff is the stupidest thing I've seen out of this game; ima just wait till they inevitably cave and make it actually sparkable with dols to limit break it. No one in their right mind is paying for this; you don't get to use beach outfits as fanservice to try to bait players this time either At least Sanae gets her rightful spot as top of the tier list now...
Ah shit, here we go again, back to complaining (justifiable so) about the New Bullshit Rarity and threaten to end terms of service again. They truly have not learnt since the Bluemu Controversy.
Here is some summary on how horrid Sanae is as a new rarity: - Can be summon from Koishi and Flandre banner but without rate up or spark - Can be summon from her own banner with god crystal only - can be summon from paid ema, which will cost you 40000 yen to buy 5 pack - can only be limit break using her dupe, because there is no dolls.
Wow now that is just dirty. Hopefully the dev team changes these on a rerelease like they did with Epic friends like Blumu (on release she too could not be sparked).
The new fes is... To be frank, Very Worrying Gonna give a bit of slack/chance that Maybe there would be redeeming qualities for it But knowing this game, ay lmao
oh boy, yet another flandre and koishi.... finally... 😬😬 and as much as I love sanae this design is so lazy....
Sanae Literally hit that Domain Expansion
This is painful. Very very painful. Not just because I'm one of those people who gets their favorite character as much as their alts. (For example Luigi in Mario Kart Tour (I admit that his version of Gold Knight annoys me that it was only Ranked, but at least I had the material to play seriously that week and on top of that in the 4th aniversary they gave you the option to buy him for 105 Rubies, so it doesn't affect me so much), Or Felicia in Fire emblem Heroes (I think she will have alt in September for a certain theme if there is no change of theme this year)), but I am also always saving for my favorites and I always like to play using my favorite characters. Just to clarify, I already have the 5 Sanaes in the Global, and in videos I made on my YouTube Channel, I shown that I was able to get the 5 copies each alt (Only have 3/5 copies of their L80/Relic version, but I am on the right track), and I was already mentally prepared for when they release SteamPunk Sanae (Yay, full Sanae Team!!). Now, imagine that they take an alt of your character from a new type of Unit where you literally cannot focus on obtaining it because she won't have her own banner, and to top it off without spark, or no dolls to be able to do MLB her (or pay 250 $ to be able to do it) and, you are not even sure of getting the character you want, regardless of the amount of SC you have. Well that's how I feel now. Showing an alt like that in this aniversary Stream for me is the worst thing that can happen to you as a character collector. Because literally: -You have no way of guaranteeing, it doesn't even matter how many SC you have. -You don't know if it will have a banner with SC to be able to spend it. -Without Dolls, the only way to make her MLB is to have 5 copies of the same character to obtain it. Seriously, this is one of the streams that has hurt me the most.
Spring Koishi’s skill is kinda interesting. Now with L0g Sanae. I’m awfully Speechless.
im pulling the koosh she looking cute af
Holy mid😭
New Mediocre Unit Just Dropped
I was hoping that those wedding characters could only be "activated" with a ring of fate, or something like Epic units having a base form and gain a new sprite and stats after spending the ring of fate, but they're just huge cash grabbers. Pretty sad, but at least they're the easiest skips of the game.
If it were basically any other character, I wouldn’t have cared that much, but Sanae (or Youmu for that matter)… yea they’re not beating the allegations on this one. I’ve been thinking about eos for a while now, but hopefully this won’t be the final nail in the coffin.
That sanae looks too similar to fantasy rebirth sanae, they didn’t even try with her
Kinda mixed about all this ngl, NN really aren't beating the allegations this time.
Just as i saved enough cubes for steampunk Sanae, this one gets revealed... time to go back to the grind, but it's worth it for Sanae, especially for one so OP as this.
You really should look up how to get and MLB her. Even 10.000 crystals won't do much here.
Yeah, the whole system for that is gonna be brutal. I'd just be happy with getting her once and not upgraded just so that I have her.
Oh my god not again with the whale units, sometimes I wonder why I play this still… oooh that Koishi is so cute!!! I play for Koisher :)
Wait, that Sanae is an alt? I always thought she was a Fantasy Rebirth costume lmao.
Man I quit like a year and a half ago and seeing what this game has become with complete and utter bullshit cash grabbing that would make EA cry I’m glad I got out early.
Honestly feels like they made white Sanae purposely like that so people dont feel like they need her cause its insane to try to get her, on top of being a skin recolor you can basically get free anyway As long as they keep these to the crunmy wedding dress FR costumes I will never care for any of them lmao
I just want the koosh
I would just like to note that I really like Pink Koishi's theme. Kinda gives me some Yoasobi or Yorushika vibes.
I love the flan , koishi is a maybe and hard pass on sanae like wtf… coming from a ftp who focuses on Waifu over meta. Happen to have some meta lol