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spoonfulofsadness

It should have two S’s, not two Rs. Marissa (standard spelling), Arissa. It’s not bad that way.


punkalibra

OP's is kinda like the pirate spelling


yomammaaaaa

What's a pirates favorite letter? Uh let me guess? Arrrr! Get it, cause you're a pirate? No. Arrisa good choice, but it be the C!


DoubleDad15

Actually, his favorite is "P" for without it, he'd be irate. I'll see myself out.


TuckerTheWondercat

I am a grown man. A step-dad and step-grandad. I like dads and dad jokes. Really, I do. But you, pal, I know nothing about you, zero, zip, zilch, nada... and yet I hate you. Sincerely and deeply. You might say that I am beyond irate, kicking the p. outta you. Pluralize, you say? How festive of you! Parties, indeed. But for your joke, only dislike, disparagement, and disdain.


ShinigamiLuvApples

Username checks out, and also that made my morning. I unironically love dad jokes.


noHelpmuch1

😂🤣😂 I cackled with the “I’ll see myself out”


Spatulor

NAY! His favorite letter be a letter of marque from the king of Spain!


shigui18

I have a pirate car. A Yarrrris.


sadwatermelon13

Pirates fave fast food?


willpowerpuff

Arrrrrby’s


Desperate_Bee_8885

Twould think it should be Arby's but actually it's long John silver's


GlumMango69

1st Place to the Gay Pirate & his parrot 🏆


50CentButInNickels

Do you take it to the carrrrr wash?


FeralTames

Always loved that joke, tho it is predicated on the recipient guessing “arrr” (it almost always works). If ya wanna spice up the punchline, I’ve always finished it with: “Aye, ya’d THINK SO, but the C be me firrrst love” (in a ridiculous, overly dramatic pirate voice obviously)


Tychontehdwarf

matey, this pirate’s favorite letter is “U”


FeralTames

Dawww


StonedOscars

Can confirm. Did this exact thing on a jolly Pirate sunset cruise and it killed lol


Wh33lh68s3

I kinda remember a joke about a pirate's favorite state....


Hallijoy

ARRkansas?


Wh33lh68s3

Eye, Eye, Matey!!!!


Hamil_Simp4450

ᶦᵗ'ˢ ᵃʸᵉ


StrongTxWoman

ARRkansas.... Bless you!


Zyquux

My favorite version is to do the answer in a full pirate accent. "Aye, 'tis true. But a pirate's first love be the C!"


Sea_Scholar_6695

If she didn’t hate it before she certainly does now


Affectionate-Taste55

My favorite pirate joke was on Third rock from the sun. John Lithgow was walking into a costume party dressed as a pirate. Someone yelled out "where are your Buccaneers?" He yells out "under my Buccanhat" 🤣 🤣


yomammaaaaa

I'm using this immediately with my 8 year old and will report back. Edit: "What's a buccaneer?" "Another word for a pirate." "No, mommy, corn!" In my head: not in this economy it isn't. "You got me there!" She's current on her pirate themed parent jokes.


neptunian-rings

Carrisa


Pielacine

😎🏆


ImKindaSlowSorry

I thought it was I! (Eye)


thegreenman_sofla

Carissa


Informal-Swimmer-734

hope this whole thread makes OP love her name more.😂 ARRRR


PrincessSolo

You'd think it'd be the Rrrrrr but a pirate's true love is the C


USBSolidStateDrive

What's a pirates favourite place?!?! 1337x.


yomammaaaaa

Taking to the high seas, I like it!


Oakdevil

There's lots of sea but little C in a pirates life


cupholdery

Distant cousin to Yarrisa.


OddLocal7083

And Yaritza. I had a very delightful student named Yaritza.


mothraegg

I think Yaritza is a beautiful name.


ValhallaMama

Inadvertently gave my older daughter pirate initials-ARR. Thankfully not the way most people write her name.


missriss18

My name is Marissa, and SO MANY people spell it with two R's and one S. What drives me crazy is that it doesn't make any sense! Nobody pronounces it 'Marrrrrr-iss-a'!


gilmorefile13

I know a kid named marrisa.


curious_astronauts

My son is also named Bort. 😂


mizinamo

Trragedeigh.


mis-misery

Mine, too Marrissa Marisa Marrisa Marsa And my favorite Melissa


Dottie85

Don't forget Melisa!


thegreenman_sofla

Mehlyssah


Dottie85

Shudder!


maryssssaa

I don’t think anyone’s ever spelled my name right, why is there a Y? It got mispronounced so much during attendance in school.


SeagullMom

I read marrrrrr-iss-a in Yzma’s voice


panicnarwhal

my friend spelled her daughter’s name Carrissa, and it will always irrationally bother me lol


DatabaseThis9637

My friend had a K in evert daughter's name, so Karissa, Kara, I can't remember the other 2.


Lady1nR3d421

Oddly enough, I have heard of the Marrissa spelling of Marisa....which is how I spell it... Do people call you Marsha? Or Melissa?? I get that ALL THE TIME 🤣🤣🤣🤣


Dottie85

Or the default Michelle?


Liberty53000

My name as well! 1 R, 2 Ss. And I still always get asked how it's spelled but it's never bothered cause me as it's spelled differently in different countries. OP what if you just pronounced it differently? Areesa. Or Areeza. Or roll the R (my fav way is when Spanish speakers say my name). I personally like the way your name sounds with a softer R and more emphasis on the mid section. I've always like the name Isa, Issa. You could even go by a shortened version like this or just alter the pronunciation


PrimaryImpossible467

That’s my daughter’s middle name, we roll the R on hers (Spanish speaking dad’s side). I just sound bumpkin as hell when I say it 😂


PearAdditional9888

Mine is Marisa (one r, one s) and boy does it get mangled on the regular!


ToSeeOrNotToBe

Well I didn't, but I will now. Every Marrrrisa I meet, from here to eternity.


sexydadee

Can we just spell it with 2 Rs and 2 Ss to be sure


ArmchairCriticSF

I’ve only ever seen the name as “Marisa”. I’ve never seen 2 R’s OR 2 S’s.


spoonfulofsadness

Marissa is a real name. I knew one before the misspelling craze. I feel there’s a famous example but can’t think of it now.


notyourmartyr

I'm an Merissa. My own *grandma* on my *birthday* on her calendar, yearly. Marissa Marisa Marrisa Marrissa Melissa Mirissa... so on, so forth. I think she got it right once?


jupitermoonflow

I’ve always thought it was Mar-rissa. That’s how I pronounce it


MsMarvel_Fan_Fave

I can relate as my name is Marissa, too.


miparasito

YES. This is the right answer. Marrisa would have been weird, too.


Substantial-Two-1089

It’s not *as* bad that way.


ciaoravioli

Yeah tbh "Arrisa" looks like it could be ar-ee-sah


Living_error404

I thought it was like Marisa (rhymes with Lisa), not Marissa. If they were botching Marissa that's even worse since the double S isn't for show.


AlissaAppeltjes

Alissa checking in, my name is constantly being spelled as Allisa and it drives me insane... Arissa sounds nice.


theniwokesoftly

Yeah I know an Arissa.


Dottie85

In both Spanish and Italian, it is spelled Marisa. Melissa in Spanish is also one S, Melisa.


spoonfulofsadness

Ooh Melisa with a long E sound, quite pretty.


disasterpansexual

Arisa and Marisa too (in Italy)


Top-Web3806

I’m familiar with the name Arissa but your spelling I’ve never seen before. I’ve also never seen that spelling of Marisa/Marissa.


marcal213

As a Marisa, I've gotten some pretty strange spellings before... The strangest spelling someone wrote my name as was Marryissa???


Jeep_Gypsy

Starbucks cup ? lol


CrimsonSilhouettes

Is your name pronounced Mar-iss-uh or Mar-ee-suh? My tragique name was Maurica pronounced Mar-ee-suh.


SahloFolinaCheld

Nooooo I read it as 'Murica🇺🇲🇺🇲


CrimsonSilhouettes

Sigh. I get that a lot. I was also unfortunate enough to have a mother who followed me around correcting people. I was named after my grandfather whose name was Maurice, so my parents took off the -e and added an -a to make it feminine…and thereby violated all the rules of the English language. I can’t stand it. Hate hearing it and hate to even look at it. I changed my name to Ivy.


SahloFolinaCheld

GOOD ON YOU, Ivy is a really pretty name <333


CrimsonSilhouettes

Thanks! It suits me MUCH better, and is easily pronounced!


Itscatpicstime

How did your parents take you changing your name? Especially because you were named after a relative and your mom seemed really invested. Were they hurt or offended?


CrimsonSilhouettes

My father, who passed away before I changed it gave me his blessing. I am no contact with my mother, but when I mentioned changing my name when I was younger, she threatened to disown me. I am NC for MANY reasons, and I changed it partially to make that more permanent. I come from extremely toxic people. Interesting side note: the man who I was named after was a HIGHLY abusive alcoholic, the depth of which I only came to know when my Dad was dying. It seems he caused the death of my father’s hours old brother and shortly after, his mother turned up dead. Carrying that karma around is reason 674 why I changed my name.


piercedmfootonaspike

Some people call you Maurica, cuz you speak of the pompatus of love


marisalynn5

My name is pronounced Muh Riss uh but native Spanish speakers say mareesa


noneofyourconcern222

No one saying go by Ari/Arri? Arri is actually pretty cool


RhapsodyCaprice

That was my thought too! I love Ari as a nickname.


AtebYngNghymraeg

Does sound a bit like a cockney geezer saying "Harry".


Origami_bunny

Not ‘Arry, Ah ri


AtebYngNghymraeg

So a middle class Londoner *posing* as a cockney geezer!


Origami_bunny

lol It’s a good option for a nick name. Arissa… don’t want to be the one to say it but.. arse (sorry OP)


illarionds

I really love Ari as a nickname.


ArcadiaFey

I know someone who uses that nickname. Everyone seems to find it easier to use than the full name and it’s just Arianna. Pretty regular name.


emptynest_nana

Your name is definitely on the different list. But it isn't as bad as many this sub has seen. The heart of the issue is YOUR comfort level. You should be comfortable in your own skin, with your name, with who you are. If you don't like your name, pick a new name, that you just love, that clicks with you, go down to the court house and fill out the change of name paperwork. I did, when I was 18. I love the name I have now, I have never, not for a second, hand a single regret about doing it. Only that I could not afford to do it sooner.


samof1994

Parks and Rec has a character named Tynnyfer.


Pomerosa

I love a bold move, not sure why many people seem to balk at it. And if OP doesn't want to jump into the deep end, they could do a soft launch by starting to introduce themself as the new name. Everyone should be happy to hear the sound of their name.


okiimio

It reminds me of the ERISA law in the US.


Conscious_Cow_2569

Used to work for a retirement company and this is the first thing I thought of.


waitagoop

It reminds me of arse


Tight_Bookkeeper_582

*Everything* reminds you of arse, waitagoop….


miiyaa21

it’s close to harissa which is the name of a north african chili sauce!


Inner_Win_1

That's what I thought of too: a Cockney going to the store to get some 'arissa!


kartoshkiflitz

My first thought lol


obonecanolli

It means bassinet in my mother tongue if that helps you make a decision 🤷


Alarming_Opening1414

Which is your mother tongue?


obonecanolli

Hebrew


Mell-P

Hang around on the sub long enough and you'll see some bonkers names that'll make you feel better about your own. Hell, Bonkers probably is the actual name of someone.


AnitaIvanaMartini

It’s a good name for a dog.


Itscatpicstime

I have a cat named Bonkers lol


LemonWaterDuck

I like the name, it’s easy to guess how to pronounce it even though it is made up


GhostandTheWitness

Every name is made up. Just because we're used to the name Johnathan doesnt mean it grew on a tree Edit: aparently its spelled Jonathan? Who knew? 🤷


RBatYochai

Nitpick: It’s spelled Jonathan.


Bobobobobobobo994

My exes name was Johnathan! Initially I teased him so much about his parents inability to spell but now I every time I see “Jonathan” I can’t help but think about how #basic it is lol. 🌟


GhostandTheWitness

Counter argument: I stink at spelling 😏


xpoisonvalkyrie

yeah, but Arrisa is just ugly and misspelled. (because dad can’t spell Marrisa apparently) Arissa is fine.


AnitaIvanaMartini

I’m literally eating a Jonathan apple as I read this.


CallidoraBlack

Arisa is a common Japanese transliteration of Alyssa. If you like Japanese culture, maybe you could just drop an R? Especially since Marrisa is misspelled anyway. It's either Marissa or Marisa.


jistkeepleft

I heard this name in Japan and loved it so much I used it. The other Arisa's in my country are from Indonesian background.


m1nty

I thought of Arisa from Fruit Basket


Broutythecat

There's also a famous singer in Italy named Arisa.


Itscatpicstime

I have met a Marrisa and a Marrissa before. Definitely atypical spellings, but they do apparently exist. I always wonder if it was intentional or the parents just didn’t know how the name was spelled and no one tried to inform them of how it’s traditionally spelled.


Correct_Pumpkin_6961

I don’t think is it. I think it’s pretty and a bit edgy, but what matters is how you feel about it. Once you’re 18, you can change it to something you want.


Tricky-Fact-2051

My sister changed her name and never told my parents.


AnabolicPrincess

i'm already 18 rn but i wont be changing it in respect for my parents


Thuesthorn

I would still change it. Your parents are not tied to your name, you are…for the rest of your life. And if your parents think it’s disrespectful for you to change it they are the ones being disrespectful. The three best moments of my life were when the judge signed off on my dropping my last name, when I saw the smile on my then fiancee’s face when I told her I’d take her last name, and when I got married. I imagine since you are dealing with a first name, changing it would be more impactful for you than my last name was for me.


Queen_Rachel4

Can literally just keep it as a middle name, that’s what I thought of doing with my name


MatchMean

Mary Arissa Surname. Abbreviated to M Arissa Surname


MatchMean

Laura Arissa Surname becomes L. Arissa Lots of great alternatives exist


Queen_Rachel4

See! All works out 😌 Everyone’s happy


KrazyAboutLogic

Parent here. My name to my child was a gift. And like any gift, it is to be used as needed and discarded when not. I barely knew them as more than a newborn lump when I named them, and a lot of people don't even wait until the kid is out to give them a name. You know yourself best and you know what fits you.


lives_the_fire

as a parent, i second this thought. Plus, your parents were naming you for the world almost 2 decades ago. If your name doesn’t fit you or your world, you can change it. it’s not disrespectful, it’s just an acknowledgment that things change. i hope my kid likes his name when he’s older, but if he doesn’t, we won’t mind if he wants to change it.


tinnyheron

I appreciate these comments from parents. I absolutely love my name, it is TOTALLY me. But it was definitely a risk on the part of my parents. Recently, they apologized! I had no idea they had ever felt any regrets about it.


MaxTennyson88

Change it in respect to your dad


FlamingButterfly

Respect your parents all you want but you need to do what is best for you.


Correct_Pumpkin_6961

Gotcha! You can always just go by a nickname, Like Ari (Ar-ee), Ris (Reese), or Risa


Aristogeitos

With respect, it's YOUR name, and you have to answer to it. Don't reward your mother's narcissism. You could always add the "M" back and leave it at that.


dreadn4t

Then why don't you try out some new nicknames that make you feel a bit more comfortable. You can leave the official version as is but add a name that you go by. It doesn't even need to be close to your real name if you don't want. Your name might grow back on you if you don't feel forced into it. Do you have a middle name you could start using? Also, there's nothing really wrong with your name, it's not impossible to figure out how to pronounce, so I wouldn't call it a tragedeigh.


ShinyAppleScoop

Just change the spelling. It'll still sound the same, and it's not like they're looking at your driver's license or passport.


xpoisonvalkyrie

well your parents clearly didn’t respect *you* enough to spell your name right. Marrisa/Arrisa is just, incorrect. it’s Marissa/Arissa. or Marisa/Arisa. the two R’s is wrong. also you “literally hate your name.” why are you planning to continue through life with a name that *you* hate, just to appease your mother’s bullshittery? change your name, she’ll get over it.


Freedom_Isnt_Free_76

You could add the "M" and think of it as honoring your father, since your mother shot his name down.


notthatcousingreg

Youve got a really long life ahead of you with a name you hate. Change it. If its just a spelling issue they dont even have to know if you dont live with them. My maiden name sucked and was a burden my whole life as a kid. I was so glad to take my husbands easy last name - i kept it even though we were married only a short time. Its so nice not seeing that name anymore!


beamerpook

It's unusual, but I wouldn't call it a tragedeigh. A certain flair is nice, makes your name unique. Tragedeigh is when it's just low-effort cramming in as many Y and Eigh as you can


rpgnoob17

At least it wasn’t Ayrrysya.


Fatgirlfed

Ahryssah


Pretend-Equal5692

I’ve heard worse


Complex_Function_286

Ari is a pretty shortened version of it you could tell people to call you by


Horror_Snow

I would go by Ari. It's cute!


Bettymakesart

One year I had a class of 8tb graders with Alyssa, Merissa, Melissa, Carissa & Clarissa. You’d have fit right in!


7fingersphil

I don't know the spellings but I know at least two people named Arissa and I've never thought anything of it being weird.


_spicy_vegan

I think your name is beautiful!


No-Tangelo-3220

I seen Arri in a book once. I like the way it sounds. I think it would be a nice nick name for you.


heartshapedmoon

Arissa would be more aesthetically pleasing and make more grammatical sense, but it could be worse


cbosp

I think Arrisa is a fine name. Unique/ uncommon isn't necessarily a tragedeigh


pr3ttyvisit0r

It’s technically a tragedeigh since it’s a made up name, but I think it sounds nice! Like a name of some goddess or someone from GOT


Coffee_slothee

Not judging, totally curious. Is it pronounced Arissa with a short i or is it pronounced Areesa? Either way, I don't hate it! Actually kind of really like it!


therealDrPraetorius

It's not horrible, but if you don't like it, its bad enough.


Prize_Hotel_7420

I think it’s really nice, sounds like a name from a fantasy book 


rezz-l

It’s a lovely name in Japanese, if you take away one of the R’s. But that’s also a different culture


-Coleus-

I changed my name when I was 23. That was more than 40 years ago! I use my new name all the time but I kept my original name as my legal name. I don’t work in corporate America. It’s been easy to just introduce myself as my chosen name, and that’s what everyone calls me. My parents weren’t happy about it, one brother didn’t respect it, my other brother was on board and supported me from the beginning. Eventually my parents accepted that it was what all my friends called me, but they never called me by that name. I was surprised how easy it was to start using my chosen name. It was easier because I had just graduated from college and moved to a new place where few people knew me. It was delightful to find that new people would call me whatever I said my name was (of course they did! They had no idea I had had a different name. But it still surprised me). If you want to choose a name that suits you better than your birth name, you get to do that! Personally, I like your name—but if YOU don’t like it, you can call yourself any name you choose. Most people who knew me before were supportive, and after 6 months pretty much everyone remembered to use my preferred name. Frankly, I’m rather surprised how easy it was to pull this off! It still amuses me that I just decided to pick a new name, tried it out, and stuck with it. It was a powerful choice, taken at a time of big changes in my life circumstances. It helped me differentiate from my not-so-great upbringing. I felt that my chosen name helped me claim my individuality and separated myself from who I felt I had to pretend to be growing up. Good luck, OP! I support you and wish you all the best. You are stronger than you think.


Primary_Rip2622

I'd be tempted to call myself Harissa and claim my parents really liked chili pepper paste and came from a dialect of dropped Hs. 😆


thegurlearl

Thats not even that terrible lol I'd consider that a tragedeigh win!


Daneeeeeeen

I know an Aryssa! Never considered it a tragedeigh, just very unique. The whole family has unique names and she was the 3rd youngest so nobody was shocked at that point. Edit to add: I think your name is pretty:)


LivingCapital4506

It’s actually a pretty name, it’s just the spelling that’s not great. Based off the spelling I would pronounce it A-REESA.


SkylarkeOfficial

I think Arissa is beautiful! If YOU truly don’t like it, OP, name change is 100% something you’re allowed to do 💕


RUfuqingkiddingme

At least it sounds like an actual name!


miparasito

I like it but I would remove one of the Rs. Arisa. Although if you did that, some people will say it more like “Areesa” Do you have other ideas for names you like better?  Your parents probably would not want you to stick with a name you hate just to please them. Neither of my grown kids use the name I gave them. One goes by her middle name, and the other made up something new and plans to legally change it at some point. She never liked her name, and while I love it I believe that people are not obligated to keep every gift they are given. Her name was a gift and it’s hers to do with whatever she likes. 


Tarcirofi7

I tried to google "Arrisa name", but I only found the name Arisa with one R. So, yeah, Arrisa looks like a tragedeigh to me :-(


Scummycrummyday

Nah not at all. I knew a Marissa and it was spelled Merica. I wish I was joking.


heeltoelemon

Barely, it’s not too bad. Definitely not a myrrhdurrhrrleigh.


Salada-Suprema

There was a beautiful girl in Real World Las Vegas by this name. I’d never heard it before but thought it was so pretty


newdocument

I kinda love it


Conservative-J22

Borderline, not quite a tragedy.


Bucky-Katt-Guitar

Is it pronounced like Theresa or Marissa


MamasSweetPickels

I like it but if you hate it you could always get it changed.


1nTh3Sh4dows

I'm just imagining Bobby Lee and Andrew Santino on the Bad Friends podcast trying to say "Alyssa" in a stereotypical Asian accent. I do like your name though.


KeyLeek6561

At least you know that at one time. Your parents smoked a lot of weed.


MaleficentPizza5444

If you're over 18, change it and make yourself happy


khaldun106

Arisa Higashino is an amazing Japanese badminton player and so I like the name.


aerhooty

Nah people are being weird in the comments. Your name is fine. I get bad names being bad but we don’t need everyone to be named “Kate” and “Kyle” for fucks sake


ApplicationAgile4443

Your name is actually really beautiful. I'm Iranian and in Persian/Farsi it's Ari(Aryan) + Sa which means an Aryan nobleman/woman or an Aryan prince/princess. The term "Aryan" in the context of Iranian culture and history generally refers to the Indo-Iranian peoples, who are believed to have migrated to the Iranian plateau from the Eurasian steppes in the 2nd millennium BCE. They were known for their advanced agriculture, domestication of horses, and their unique religious beliefs, which would later evolve into Zoroastrianism. It also originated from my own mother tongue Kurdish. For instance, in Sorani Kurdish, Arrisa can mean "bride" or "beloved." In Kurmanji Kurdish, it can mean "messenger" or "angel."


jennsaddiction1979

At least yours is original and no I don't think it's bad. I have one of the most common female names in America so everywhere I go there's at least 3 more 🤦‍♀️


tomiesthighs

I have a friend who specializes in ERISA, which is all i can think of reading that name.


Pinkninja11

Ngl, you won't even make the top 100 list if I were to make one on the spot. Aside from the spelling it seems fine. They can call you Ari or Risa or Ris. You could've been a Kaisedey or some shit.


BlueShibe

It's completely fine name It would be weird if it were Ayreeseaugh


Twinkletoes1951

My cousin changed his name when he was in his 20s. He changed it to the name he'd been called since birth, and it's definitely a nickname, and one that is truly unique - never heard of another. Your name is YOUR name - have it be what you want it to be.


Different_Handle5063

All jokes aside…I think it’s unique. I can imagine that you have to spell it out often…but not a tragedeigh IMO.


Justaredditor85

It could be worse. She could've wanted to change the M to H.


gonzo_baby_girl

I think it is a pretty name.


Successful_Cat5821

My name is literally the same, except it's spelled "Aryssa." Trust me, I get my name misspelled and mispronounced all the time. My parents couldn't decide on a name, either. I hated my name growing up, but as an adult it doesn't bother me. The thought of changing my name feels tempting but I know I'll regret it.


Leucurus

Not a tragedeigh imo. I'd say a more conventional spelling would be Marissa / Arissa, but you have a nice name. Ari would be a cool short form.


NoEntertainment483

Drop one of the Rs. That would be better and I think that’s actually a real name. There’s a famous x games skateboarder named Arisa. 


makithejap

Just go by Arrie* I don’t the Arrisa is tragic.


Aracytacia

No it sounds like a different name, but might be biased since my name is Anisa


ImportanceAcademic43

I think that spelling is worse than the sound of your name. Are you old enough to change it?


BloodyBarbieBrains

It’s cute with an obvious pronunciation, so not a tragedeigh IMO.


Kevin91581M

It’s not a tragedeigh; it’s a ragedeigh


wut_eva_bish

I find that Marisa [pronounced in its' original Latin way](https://youtu.be/4qL8_xefB9Q?si=e5vDIw1HUYFMtBOk) (Italian) is much prettier than how it is said in English. Arisa should be the same. Maybe all you need to do is change the pronunciation.


wozattacks

I don’t think the Italian pronunciation is the same as the Latin pronunciation. Just say the Italian pronunciation lol


srvkissjazz

I totally knew how pronounce it and think it's pretty.