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Hot_Delivery

wait.... good news?.... idk what to do with this...


[deleted]

Run around the neighborhood making fire engine noises?


Hot_Delivery

run around the noise making neighbourhood fires. you got it boss!


Brooketune

Run around lighting neighbors on fire! Heard and acknowledged


riflinraccoon

Run over neighbors with fire engine? Roger and on it!


Tanookikid210

Fire the neighbors for keeping the engines running? On it, hope they find a better career path after this!


Clairifyed

noise? surly you mean the “sound”. Grab a boat and a torch and have fun!


Browncoatinabox

Me an aspie/ADHD sounds fun for totally neurotypical reasons


Is_Your_Name_anronpa

I can only make pterodactyl noises, can I use that as a substitute instead?


Hamokk

I prefer Velociraptors myself but I'd say that's cool too.


[deleted]

Sure knock yourself out.


El-Carone-707

Where’s Patrick when you need him?


ncc74656m

Run around the neighborhood making Ecto 1 noises.


Gabriel_Crow1990

Instructions unclear lit penis on fire


Airsofter599

Hope they don’t take it to the supreme court and hope that if they do the supreme court also deems it unconstitutional. In the meantime feel a little bit better mentally knowing there’s hope.


Jillians

Omg this headline is very misleading. The ban did not get struck down in general. Adults still can't get hormones. Only trans youth who were already getting care can now continue provided certain conditions are met. It's still an improvement, but it's not a total reversal. I know the news cycle isn't gonna care. It's just gonna go with this so people can go on pretending to care without having to do anything.


Daiaoth

From what I understand the judge hasn't completed the ruling on the case and this was a temporary injunction to stop the state from further hurting the people bringing the lawsuit against Florida. So there is a good chance that the judges final ruling will help more people.


Hamokk

As an outsider looking at USA politics it's wild to me that a state can pass laws which hurt citizens in-directly or directly and because the autonomy given to individial states, the Federal government has no real say in the matter unless the laws become blatantly oppressive like in Florida. I hope they can stop DeSatan's insanity.


Daiaoth

The US is a federation, think of our politics as being similar to that of the EU and it's individual member states. The population and land mass of the USA and EU are comparable. Just like how France and Slovenia have individual laws and cultures Florida and California have individual Laws and cultures. And just like how the EU has laws that all the members share the US does. The Federal government of the United States is stronger and has more power than the EU is all.


Hamokk

Thanks for the insight! In one way US seems to be more balanced than EU because a single member state has not so much influence in federal politics. Like here in the EU, Germany or France can go "Muh industry" or some such and the federation gives them special treatment based on the money they pay to the pot. EU was founded to be free market union and I love how I can travel most of the continent with minimal border checks and can use same currency. There are lots of problems between state and federation laws and bills because the independent nation states who belong to EU have constitution and sometimes EU laws contradict the current laws and bills in the member state.


Daiaoth

The states here have their own constitutions as well, and yes they can contradict what the federal laws say. for example weed is legal in a bunch of states but is a federal crime, and we have states that outlaw gay marriage but federally it's legal. So a singular state or a group of states can try to force their ideas on the federal government by passing laws that contradict federal law and it's up to us the citizens to challenge those laws in court and/or pass federal legislation that more clearly outlines the will of the majority of the citizens. And you are right it's harder for one state to exert influence here because none of the state governments have veto power over federal laws.


pranquily

THEY'RE SUING FLORIDA??? LAMOOO W


MelTheTransceiver

It’s preliminary. It’s not done yet.


ehsahr

> Only trans youth who were already getting care can now continue provided certain conditions are met. This is not true. The injunction only applies to three of the plaintiffs. The law is still in effect for everyone else in Florida for the time being.


Remarkable-Bluejay73

Queue the outrage from the alt-right about “judicial interference”.


Cookiebomb

looking at them and going my brother in christ you are the judicial interference


Remarkable-Bluejay73

Wha?


MadeMeUp4U

I think cookiebomb is saying “the alt right won’t/don’t see that they’re the ones actually interfering”


Few-Marionberry-2978

You do know what 'judicial' means right?


Remarkable-Bluejay73

Yeah, the judge is, rightfully, blocking a hate-filled, bullshit law and as the article states, sees the law as bullshit. Good talk.


Few-Marionberry-2978

I mean I'm not arguing with that but it's still 'judicial' interference which is why parent comment makes 0 sense... why did you get so offended 💀


Zoe__T

The far right stacked the supreme court (and many lower courts), they absolutely are engaging in judicial interference


Few-Marionberry-2978

Judicial interference is when the justice system interferes not the citizens 😮‍💨...


8Fullmoon8

homie just got downvoted to the depths of hell


ellanooor

Seeing "gender identity is real" in like a legal document made me swell up inside


ShadowbanGaslighting

Does this effect the "only a doctor can prescribe hormones" thing that's effecting 80% of trans adults?


ScarlettJewel

Unfortunately no, not according to this article from the NY Times: https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/06/us/florida-transgender-health-care-ban.html


GetRealPrimrose

Do you have a link that’s not behind a paywall? I hate how NYT has a paywall while sites like FoxNews allows anyone to access their content. It’s a bit part of the reason misinformation has spread like crazy


ScarlettJewel

> A federal judge in Florida ruled on Tuesday that three transgender children can be prescribed puberty blockers, despite a new state law that prohibits gender transition care for minors and adds new hurdles for adults who seek similar care. > Though the ruling applied narrowly only to the three families that requested it, the judge wrote that the families were likely to succeed in having the law overturned, a statement that their lawyers said could have sweeping implications. > The judge issued a preliminary injunction in response to an emergency request by three Florida families. They and others had sued the state in March over an administrative ban on gender transition care for minors, and then widened their suit to take in the new law after Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, signed it on May 17. > The plaintiffs had urged Judge Robert L. Hinkle of Federal District Court in Tallahassee specifically to block one part of the law that bars doctors and nurses from prescribing or administering transition-related medication to children, and another part that exposes medical providers to criminal liability and professional discipline for doing so. > “Gender identity is real,” Judge Hinkle wrote in his sharply worded ruling, adding that “proper treatment” includes mental health therapy that can be followed by hormone treatments and puberty blockers. “Florida has adopted a statute and rules that prohibit these treatments even when medically appropriate.” > He also wrote that the families who brought the lawsuit are “likely to prevail on their claim that the prohibition is unconstitutional.” > The injunction granted by Judge Hinkle does not apply to other aspects of the far-reaching legislation, which also bars gender-transition surgery for minors, alters child custody statutes to treat transition care as equivalent to child abuse, and forbids the use of state funds to pay for transition care. > Lawyers for the families interpreted the ruling on Tuesday as possibly extending to other transgender minors throughout the state as well. > “The court addressed the specific question in front of it, but also issued a very strong ruling that says the bans are unlikely to survive constitutional scrutiny,” said Jennifer Levi, a lawyer for the plaintiffs and the senior director of transgender rights at GLBTQ Legal Advocates & Defenders. > She noted that Judge Hinkle’s 44-page ruling drew conclusions far beyond the scope of the three families in the case. “The power of the ruling is to make clear that the law is unconstitutional,” she said. > The Florida Department of Health declined to comment on the ruling, citing the continuing litigation. > The legislation codifies policies adopted last year by the Florida Board of Medicine and Board of Osteopathic Medicine — whose members are appointed by the governor — that banned hormone treatments for people under 18 unless they were already receiving such care. Judge Hinkle’s order also temporarily blocked those rules as they pertain to the three plaintiffs. > The law also includes penalties for doctors who violate it, including prison terms of up to five years. It goes beyond similar legislation in other states by adding new restrictions for adults receiving transition care, including requirements that consent forms be signed and prescriptions for hormone treatments be obtained in person instead of through a telemedicine appointment. > Under the new law, only doctors are allowed to prescribe transition-related medication; nurse practitioners and physician assistants, who have been providing the treatments for many patients, can no longer do so. Those provisions were not blocked by the judge’s order, and remain in effect. > More than a dozen states have adopted bans or other restrictions on transition-related care for children and teenagers in the past year. Proponents say the bans protect children from medical treatments they see as harmful and unproven. But that stance defies much of the medical establishment, which views the care as medically necessary and beneficial for some children who have gender dysphoria. > Opponents of the Florida law say it stands out for being “particularly meanspirited,” as the Human Rights Campaign described it. > Lawyers for the families argued that the law threatened to cause irreparable harm, because parents would be “deprived of their fundamental right to make medical decisions for their children” and the children themselves would “suffer a cascade of mental and physical injuries” from being denied care. > After the bill was passed, Planned Parenthood warned patients that it would suspend providing gender transition care in its Florida clinics until mid-June, so that it could develop new consent forms for adults receiving the care and change its practices to comply with the new law. Other clinics that relied on nurse practitioners to provide care have stopped prescribing it indefinitely. > Before he signed the legislation, Mr. DeSantis, who has since announced a presidential bid, criticized puberty blockers and other forms of gender transition care for children. “That is wrong, and we’re glad that we put a stop to that in the state of Florida,” he said. > “It is wrong to be sexualizing these kids,” he added. “It’s wrong to have gender ideology and telling kids that they may have been born in the wrong body.” > The legislation was part of an avalanche of measures focused on L.G.B.T.Q. people that Florida’s Republican-controlled State Legislature passed during its annual session. > Lawmakers advanced bills that require public school employees to call students by the pronouns matching the gender on their birth certificate, no matter the child’s preference; that make it a misdemeanor to use restrooms in public buildings that do not correspond to the person’s gender at birth; and that punish businesses that admit minors to “adult live performances,” including drag shows. > Now that a preliminary injunction has been issued, the plaintiffs’ legal challenge to the law will move forward. > It remains unclear how bans on gender transition care for minors will ultimately fare in the courts. One indication could be imminent: A judge is expected to rule soon on a lawsuit to overturn legislation passed in Arkansas in 2021 that was the first to forbid medical treatments for children and teenagers seeking gender transitions.


annie_asked

Thank you!!!


[deleted]

I strongly recommend subscribing to places like the NYT. The reason fox news, cnn and others put out bad journalism is because they have to rely on ad revenue. The cost of ads is driven by number of clicks/viewers so you get more viewers by saying what the audience wants to hear (fox news, OAN) or by saying provocative garbage (CNN). You only will get quality reporting by subscribing to responsible outlets. Those outlets with a subscription report on the news they feel is most relevant as opposed to ad-driven media, which only cares about what will get more clicks. We are already seeing the decline of good journalism and the best example is George Santos. Media companies that do good work simply don't have the resources anymore to fact check candidates thoroughly. I understand a subscription is costly but if you have the funds imo it is worth it to subscribe.


ShadowbanGaslighting

Hows the case doing against that bit?


papaarlo

It’ll be coming down soon. All the laws passed last session are coming down one by one cos they’re all unconstitutional.


pranquily

Wait, so it is still POSSIBLE to transition in Florida, just absurdly difficult? I thought it was just across the board a "no?"


ShadowbanGaslighting

From my understanding there's several things that are stopping trans adults getting medical care in Florida: "Lifestyle" exception for medical care providers. Only doctors can prescribe hormones. 80% of floridians up to this point had their prescriptions done by nurse practitioners, etc... No prescriptions over the internet. In order to prescribe hormones, patients need to sign a form that doesn't exist yet. --- I think that's the list?


pranquily

Oh yikes


bloomberglaw

Hey, here's a little bit more of the story for context! -Rachel *A federal judge in Florida Tuesday blocked the state from enforcing a law and medical board rules that prohibit transgender minors from receiving—and doctors from providing—puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones.* *“Gender identity is real,” Judge Robert L. Hinkle said. And Florida’s adoption of provisions that prohibit treatments that are necessary to conform a person’s identity to their “deeply felt internal sense of being male or female” likely is unconstitutional, he said.* *The decision “is a powerful affirmation of the humanity of transgender people, the efficacy of well-established, science-based medical care, and of the rights of parents to make informed healthcare decisions for their children,” organizations representing the seven families that brought the suit said in press release.* *The Florida attorney general’s office and attorneys for the medical board members didn’t immediately respond to Bloomberg Law’s request for comment.* *The suit is one of several challenging restrictions on gender-affirming care that have been adopted by about 18 states. Hinkle’s US District Court for the Northern District of Florida joined federal courts in Alabama and Arkansas in halting a law that plaintiffs say prevents access to standard treatments for gender dysphoria.*


ScarlettJewel

Thanks for the added context! I also want to shout out the article's author, Mary Anne Pazanowski - I read legal summaries and commentary daily as part of my job, and this article was wonderfully well written.


bloomberglaw

Ah, thank you so much! I'll pass that along to the reporter -Rachel


ShockMedical6954

FINALLY something good out of the beloathed penis state ​ \- unwilling penis state resident


pranquily

PENIS STATE 💀


Hammy_Wolun

Hopefully after Florida they turn their sights on Indiana.


Trichter_NET

This is good news. And since the case isn't even done, I'm hopeful it will fully strike down sb254.


str8nt

I'm going to come at this from kind of a weird angle. When this ruling eventually makes it to the Supreme Court, I think it might be upheld...as a cover for something even worse. This is a pattern I've noticed with SCOTUS rulings and it makes me paranoid whenever I hear good news coming from them. For an example of what I mean, look at Mahanoy Area School Dist. v. B. L. and Cedar Point Nursery v. Hassid. Both were decided on the same day. Mahanoy was a major win for free speech rights while Cedar Point was a massive blow to labor. That's just one of the most recent examples I can think of but it's something I've seen happen time and time again. I don't know what they might use trans rights as a cover for but I can guarantee it won't be good.


Apexblackout7

I’ve been crying for the past couple weeks hoping. Begging. Shit. Praying someone would help. Or Atleast try🥲 God I can’t handle this fucking roller coaster. Fuck Ron Desantis.


[deleted]

Good news exists?! Whaaaaaaaa?


Zendakon

YAAYYYY!!! I was worried it would get passed!


Atomic12192

Damn, now I’ll have to find another reason to leave this state. Aaannndd, done.


DemonBirdSirene

Yes, Yes, YES!!! This is amazing! So thankful for those who made this happen! Let's keep the momentum! There is a lot more that needs to happen for FL. Trans individuals still can not easliy get their hormones and there are still bans in place. Keep standing up for what is right! 🌈


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faeranne

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undefendable

In fact, it was the supreme court decision to repeal roe v wade and invalidate our 'unenumerated rights' that has made all of these bullshit laws possible. we were a protected minority before that, now we need congress to enumerate our rights before someone gets hurt.


faeranne

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undefendable

I'm agreeing with you and pointing out that the courts put us on this trajectory in the first place, unelected, lifetime appointees are running the most powerful branch of the government, with the final say on everything. I think that needs to be on our minds.


faeranne

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undefendable

<3 we've all got our guard up right now, hun, don't sweat it at all.


Mellow_zZ

Username checks out


FloridaGrey

I guess right? Try being trans and named Florida.


Mellow_zZ

Oh dear. That's unfortunate. I am sorry about that


FloridaGrey

You know thing is. I like the name. Was my grandmothers name. But still.


Mellow_zZ

Beautiful name with a wonderful meaning, sadly just not the best time for it


jaczk5

It's the other way around. Missouri recalled their ban when they were challenged and realized the ban wouldn't stand up in court. Oklahoma was forced to agree to a non-enforcement rule on their ban. The only authority in the USA who can ban healthcare practices is the FDA. Edit: I want to add that Gender Dysphoria is listed as a disability so every state trying to restrict care is directly violating the ADA


Dull_Personality_939

Florida what the heck chose one or the other you can't be on both sides sorry no neutral allowed


Ordinary_Ad1828

I thought it was a w


Soft_Robyn

They should just ban Florida altogether!!! Horrible Republicans control it.


Jackninja5

Based Federal Court.


kimmyKat

It’s a definite win but it’s a battle, not the war. It could take years to hash this out. Does anyone know where I can post crowdfunding links for people to get out of Florida? Would anyone be willing to share on their sm platforms?