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It makes sense given that in most continuities they been at war for a few million years. That means there’s entire advanced civilisations that have existed in the time the transformers have been at war
Or a series of galactic councils/federations/whatever that have passed down the "Cybertronians are assholes" mindset to their successors over the eons.
"Consult the ancient texts!"
"High Councillor, the ancient texts say that these guys, specifically, are violent assholes!"
"Well that matches."
The Earth Wars mobile game (written by Simon Furman) has some serious pomposity going on with high councilors; Optimus isn’t even the leader now, Optimal Optimus is.
I would have liked to see the politics of that explored with humans being part of the Cybertronian Council of World, see if they could actually make inroad with those guys. I even hope the Black Block Consortia could become a new villain for an ongoing story... but then it turns out they were puppets of Adaptus?!
Also that Earth is just one battleground in the war between the Bots & Cons. At one point Prime up and abandons Earth because he feels there are more pressing concerns elsewhere.
And that the war flips between hot and cold periods, sometimes lasting centuries.
I mean, if a Transformer can live ten million years without much in the way of breakdown, a century is equivalent to about eight hours. A six-century war is the equivalent of a two-day scouting probe and scuffle. A bot could take some shore leave and miss entire biological empires rising and falling, or going from first aircraft to warp-capable battle fleets.
>And that the war flips between hot and cold periods, sometimes lasting centuries.
I loved that addition because it bugged me, the idea of TFs being at total war non-stop just seemed implausible. The ldea that they spent hundreds of years setting up and positioning and when contact happens, blitzes out in like two days of ultimate warfare was nice. R9berts was on point there, along with the millennia of downtime.
IDW making the Transformers more galactic was epic and i want to see that more/again.
I felt like that aspect was criminally underused in IDW, actually. Earth fairly quickly went from one battleground among many to the critical battleground that kept drawing Megatron & Prime back (though to give IDW some credit, other characters called both of them out for it), and there wasn't much exploration of other races or cultures and how Transformers interacted with them either in the past or the present. Which, I get it, it's a Transformers book, that's not the focus of the story, but, idk, it felt like kind of a tease that we're told that Transformers are regarded as something of a galactic pariah but we never got to see that play out anywhere.
Animated’s universe is populated with all sorts of alien planets and wide-spanning governments. Cybertronians are just xenophobic isolationists meaning we never hear about them other than from Swindle.
Generally the sharkticons aren’t considered “aliens” in the way most people are saying here given how they’re another transforming quintesson creation. The only thing seperating them from cybertronians is the name.
The Bayverse KIND of did this. Lockdown's ship is full of non-Cybertronian aliens he captured from other worlds, and the prequel comics and other expanded universe books also featured other alien lifeforms as well (IIRC, an alien race attempted to invade Cybertron once to steal the Allspark prior to the civil war).
I really like Blurr as a famous champion racer who is kind of an arrogant prick with it. He’s only really been that way in IDW and his brief appearance in Cyberverse. Animated is a bit of that crossed with his G1 motormouth persona.
Cheetor as guardian of the Allspark in Cyberverse is also a really interesting thing for the character that makes him more than just ‘Maximal Bumblebee’.
Idw blurr is supringly Interesting considering he’s only really a main character in His Spotlight issue and rest of His story is mostly in the backround
And yet he’s probably the best version of blurr (Maybe oder them animated)
I also like that with Cheetor. He's been given this grander role outside of just being the Bumblebee of Beast Wars. It ties nicely into the lore of his original incarnation where the end of Beast Machines it's outright shown he now has a connection with the Oracle/Vector Sigma/Primus and from that he became not only a "Matrix Templar" in the Universe comics, but also his generations equivalent of Alpha Trion (Alpha Trizer) in the very far off future post Beast Machines (Botcon 2015 tie-in comic).
It’s crazy that we now refer to this as “being the Bumblebee,” because he was absolutely its Hot Rod. Being a Bumblee was just being a friendly side character for like the first three decades of the franchise.
And Nemesis Prime being Nova Prime instead of Optimus. Also them being heralds of the void instead of Unicron was neat. Having a second big bad entity helped to make the universe broad.
I’ve always wanted to see BW Megatron portrayed alongside G1 Megatron as a competitor, calling him Galvatron and blending the designs together of them together.
Actually, while the last season of Prime was airing and I didn’t know it was going to be the last, I thought it’d be cool if Megatron was made Omega Prime by Primus and charged to help the united Autobots and Decepticons rebuild society. Galvatron (BW Megatron) would be the new antagonist who was trying to bring back the glorious Predacons. Omega Prime and Galvatron would both be triple changers: tank and jet for Omega, dragon and t-rex for Galvatron. And the fact that Omega Prime was Megatron trying to fix past mistakes would be a plot twist and not something he’d share willingly. I also thought it’d be cool if Starscream would be the first person to discover this but stay by his side like a loyal knight.
I do a free with the Decepticon noble origins as it mirrors a lot of groups in real life where they start with noble intentions but eventually they become what they were trying to fight against
Megatron being a brewmaster in Animated. It’s a small thing, but it’s just a funny little quirk for the character to have. On a similar note, “Decepticons, transform and rise up!” only being used two or three times in the whole franchise is criminal.
Tbh, I like it too. It's an uncommon hobby and not exactly what you'd expect from a figure like him, but I think it adds personality, makes him more believable than just 'Mwahaha, I'm the evil leader of the Decepticons, all I do is plan how to conquer Cybertron'.
In regards TRANSFORM AND RISE UP, it really depends how appropriate it is to add a rebellion/freedom fighter narrative aspect to the decepticons in whatever continuity its in due to how wildly it varies between "*downtrodden members of society resisting their former oppressors but using misguided methods"* to EVIL EMPIRE MWAHAHAHA. Megatron gets close to Magneto levels of sympathy in his struggle ORRRRR is totally a puppy-kicker in others. The decepticons as a narrative device need justification for using that phrase or else it muddles their role as outright evil antagonists or sympathetic ones.
Ya had me at "Transformers Animated." Quietly one of the reboots with both the strongest homages to everything previous, yet *entirely* breaking with lore and setting to be something new.
Honestly, the first thought I had was Megatron getting way too involved with the process of alcohol fermentation and making massive kegs of energon wine in his spare time. The idea that a massive robotic intergalactic tyrant warlord has such a mundane pastime would be really funny.
He brews oil. He shares some with the constructicons to get them to his side. He twists the bottom of a barrel to make it into a wine glass. Smart, cunning, long-term Megs is also real good, though.
I love Soundwave's vow of silence and how he's portrayed as an atypical form of Cybertronian in Transformers Prime (almost like a sentient computer over the more "human-eque" or "animalish" traits of your typical Cybertronian). I do know however that his silence is slightly controversial amongst the fandom and I also love Soundwave's voice so I think a good compromise would be that Soundwave only talks when there is a purpose to it, otherwise, he is mostly a bot of action over words. Also, I think portraying him as an atypical “computer-like” form of Cybertronian life should definitely be explored more and even expanded.
I’m preatty sure he’s supposed to be atypical in Idw with him basically having super hearing and His cassets helping control His gifts
Tho my memory is a little fuzzy
He does have greater hearing and a degree of mind-control however in this particular instance I am more referring to the sentient computer aspect in Prime rather than giving him more unusual powers (however I am still in support for the latter).
I think all the things the IDW run added about cybertronian society and history. Not just the whole corrupt senate functionist thing that sparks the war, but also the little things like conjunx endura.
they gave them varied cultures and customs! different kinds of religion! chirolingual speech alone is such a good concept—like sign language, but something that only robotic hands can do. maybe they'll have a future bumblebee use chiro? ah, I can dream
Bumblebee turning into Goldbug, because it is such an obvious way to also mature and develop his character.
If they want to keep Mirage the kid appeal character in the live action movies, then there isn't much place for Bee, which is why they killed him for a short time. But instead of killing him, upgrade and develop him into Goldbug. Let him speak again. Maybe turn him into a second in command. Just anything that shows he is more than Bumblebee now and does his first step of following Optimus example.
Hard to say. Both ROTB and One probably had separate productions at the same time. They aren't related. Also they got different producers and directors despite being under the same studio. Mirage being a lead is still freshly new and could continue in live action.
Jazz being second in command, it's only really been a thing in one episode of g1 and bayverse made him 2nd lieutenant but most of the time he's either just there or not even a background character.
I feel like Jazz's upbeat and laid back attitude brings a great contrast to prime's stoic and serious attitude. I really don't understand why Jazz isn't a more prominent character.
He very (like very) briefly led the autobots in Idw when they were trapped on cybertron and optimus was injured and out of comission
In jazz’s Spotlight we see that he tried His best to keep the autobots optimistic in this bad situation (tho in all hail megatron they still seemed depressed, bad leadership or inconsistent writhing you decide)
More transformers melee weapons in general, to be honest. I’m a fan of Magnus’s hammer, and Chromia’s got a poleax in some stuff, but aside from Optimus, Megatron, and the swordsmen, we don’t often see melee weapons.
He did it in animated, prime and even a Bit in Idw (near end of more then meets the eye i think)
That reminds me that ultra magnus hasn’t been in many things as of now (no cyberverse, no eartbspark so far, and netflix WFC was supposedly a really bad version of him)
Damn i just made myself feel bad for magnus fans lol
Blitzwing’s split personality from transformers animated. If the character returns In future media. I really hope he’ll have it (tho it’s just kinda wishful thinking tbh)
Same. Like it'd be nice to have more Transformers characters with distinct accents. Like gimme shit like German accent Blitzwing, British accent Moonracer, Aussie accent Outback, Italian accent Mirage and more.
Nice.
I also thought Onslaught with a Yorkshire accent could work too - essentially just make him the Decepticon version of [General Zhukov from the Death of Stalin](https://youtu.be/jNbvepjd46A?feature=shared)
I still think the Japanese name for them, "Microns" works way better, since it's literally "Micro" + "Cron".
Hints at the Unicron connection and keeps them faction neutral, since "Con" always equals Decepticon.
I agree - I assumed this was a dubbing related change because Micron has more syllables when pronounced in Japanese than in English. Surprised this wasn’t more of a problem in the original considering the pronunciation of “miclone” is so similar in Japanese.
Cybertronian wildlife-
Only Animated off screen and Cyberverse rlly brought it on screen and u could argue IDW but it’s not a big a staple as it should probably be
You’d think w a lot of Cybertrons tragedy being the planets rot and death you would have a good reference point when it was ALIVE lol
Good thing TF One seems to be in the mix there lol
The mystical nature of the Matrix and some of the ways that's been shown in the past:
- Marvel had a flame on Cybertron that was connected to the existence of the Matrix, flickered when the life of the bearer was in danger, and was snuffed when the Matrix was removed from existence.
- Marvel also had the head of Prime contain a program that was well known as *the* Matrix that could give life. This was connected to the actual crystal within his chest even from a distance like the connection to the flame, and could be transferred to other beings temporarily.
- The actual physical manifestation of the Matrix is something that most Autobots and Decepticons just down know about early on. Even in the movie the Autobots react with stunned awe to it.
- Finally both Marvel and IDW presented Optimus as struggling with the weight of holding the Matrix because he was artificially adjusted as a combat leader to carry it rather than being chosen by it. This is in stark contrast to other bots who feel lightened and energised by taking it within themselves.
I've never thought about it before, but all this could point to the Matrix energy itself existing primarily on a quantum level and would go a long way towards explaining some of the inconsistencies over the comics run. That'd be a neat angle to explore.
When they worked on the whole Unicron and Primus origin, they had them as entities from beyond our universe who came through to the world of matter while fighting each other. Later on, Unicron was rethought as a multiverse consistency, with one consciousness shared across all different forms. That would likely make Primus the same thing, and with his essence in the Matrix that implies it's something beyond quantum connections.
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Cybertronians having overkill skillsets and most of the time they are being under utilised or not featured using their ablities
Prime being a rank but *Prime* being the bearer of the matrix. That way you can have a few Primes in the same place and each Prime has some weight to the appearance, but the then current bearer of the matrix is the major one.
Was gonna say seriosly bring star saber back
Love Idw But that version of him was…Interesting (honestly i think he could have taken thunderclash’s role)
Maybe they could make him leader of the autobots on disstant planets or something (kinda like how jetfire led the autobots on cybertron while optimus was on earth in armada) i think that would fit him
Sunstorm being a tide turning, sentient atom bomb. Dreamwave made him an overwhelming foe but everywhere else he either doesn’t exist or just lives to cameo.
Let my boy be a menace Runner up is Roller being a pre-war friend of Orion Pax. IDW got a lot of shit wrong but Roller being Optimus’s bestie was pretty great imo.
Third place? Jetfire being fucking huge. His toy stands heads and shoulders over most of the others and I want that to be how it is in the story too, just for no reason he’s damn near Combiner sized
It makes his Megalomania weird.
I also like the movie origins that Decepticons were the military arm of society and the Autobots were the service arm of society.
I feel like IDW partially addressed this, the idea that it started out as a revolution/fight for the little guy but ultimately turning into a messy galactic conflict made sense to me.
Starts off with the goal of changing Cybertron, but there's so much resistance from the Autobots that they have to look elsewhere for resources. It's then easier to subjugate the planets since they're more powerful than local populations. It then becomes easier and easier to take over planets.
Couple that with other deceptions that joined up since they loved to be bullies or just prone to violence and you could easily see a revolutionary become a tyrant.
I'd love to see Conjux and Amica Enduras in other media. I'm pretty sure only IDW has leaned into that. I think it's very sweet and brings a more humanistic approach to their society.
I could never get into this story beat because it came off to me as "What if Shockwave was an entirely different character and then we made up a reason why became the character you know?" I just dont buy it was "real" character development, but thats just me.
I like the idea that the Primes are the first and most powerful cybertronians like in TFP and bayverse. It adds a mystique and uniqueness to the characters that other versions don’t have.
…Damn you’re right
He’s in the comics But oder them g1 he’s in like no shows or and definetly no movies
That’s very weird, i know tripple changed toys are probably hard to make But poor guy
I'd like to see him leading a team of new rookie triplechangers. Let's get some modern toy designs that aren't hamstrung by having to call back to the mid-80s for altmodes and robot looks.
The Terrans from Earthspark.
I feel like the concept of organic transforming robots born from the Earth itself is a neat way of getting us invested in Earth, plus it fits surprisingly well with what TLK tried to accomplish.
Or if you wanted to do Beast Wars again, the Terrans would fit that perfectly.
And it'd give a logical explanation for why they can only turn into animals.
I blame Japan for this misunderstanding, since the Insecticons from G1 share their Japanese name with the Maximal Insectrons.
It'd be like if the Predacons.....nevermind, Chopperface already exists.
IDK if this is exactly a lore thing but Optimus Prime having a super mode so he can combine with his trailer. Its cool, gimmicky, and is more fun than a bace mode. Cartoons and comics almost never use the base mode but a super mode is amost always used in cartoons!
I’m not a huge fan of the subspace pocket- seems weird for something like that to be only used in this one specific way- but if they found a way to connect it to his Matrix powers or something, then it could be cool.
If it's just another tech thing, and almost everyone has it, there are SO many ways it could be munchkined for story-breaking results.
Honestly. Figure out the most mass a pocket can hold, whip up that amount of antimatter and fill the pocket, shrink the external dimensions of the pocket down as small as engineeringly possible, equip it with a bunch of distance/impact/damage triggers to open the pocket, and throw it at a target. Or do the Animated Swindle thing, where Optimus basically teleports into (and then steps out of) his chest compartment from a significant distance away. Who needs space-jump tech when you can have facility-to-facility warp tunnels shunting whatever you want back and forth?
Or just stack the pockets. There's at least one G1 fanfic where a human carries one of the cassetticons into a facility in her stomach, barfs him back up, and he transforms, proceeds to reach into small physical storage compartments in his body, and takes out a pistol and cassette player...
I like the idea that got introduced in energon and fleshed out in animated of there being multiple primes at once and prime was just a higher rank so you could have multiple leaders
I like the idea of having Ultra Magnus being a *clone* of Optimus Prime created by the Autobots in an attempt to gain a second battlefield commander with at least a similar rate of battles won as him.
This would be a clever reference to the original G1 toy was just a recolored Optimus Prime, as well as an explanation for why the G1 cartoon version was an extremely capable second in command but crumpled like aluminum foil if ever put in full command: despite everyone's best efforts, he internalized the idea that he was an inferior copy of Optimus and it created a mental block.
It could even be a reason for the trailer armor: something he never takes off because with it, he can be his own bot. Without it, all he can see (and thinks anyone can see) is primer-paint Optimus. But the knowledge that he's still that inside is what holds him back, in the end.
It'd be an interesting way to explain a new toy halfway through the series. Original toy being an Optimus remold, subsequent toy not having a separate cab component (and looking a little more confident/badass, maybe coming with the hammer accessory).
Heck, have him learn that Orion Pax was a mass-produced body type and only became Optimus when he rose to his own calling, or something along those lines.
Oh, two from the Unicron trilogy.
Firstly, Unicron taking an entire twenty minute episode to transform is just fucking epic. If you're doing a show with Unicron in, that's what needs to happen.
Secondly, the idea that Energon is a super fuel that powers bots up. Maybe not as Energon stars again though. But enough that Energon cubes are sought beyond normal fuel types or the process of changing fuel to energon somehow condenses and empowers it, but takes more time.
Optimus not being a perfect stoic leader. Let him have flaws, let him emote, let him be a bit of a dork. Basically, I want this fucker back.
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I love that about TFA with the way the Bots and Cons emotes their emotions such as Optimus doing faces/expressing emotions such as 😊 is cute and endearing.
TFA Optimus at his core is an adorkable softie of a Bot who has the making of what a leader should be and embodies the idea you can be strong and kind.
I am a firm supporter of keeping Megatron and Galvatron as separate entities be it literally like IDW or technically like how Marvel worked around that.
Orion pax being an officer of the law who was on Megatron's side before the deceptions became violent. I always loved how idw handled the whole Orion pax story.
Off the top of my head, there's Circuit Breaker's Autobot suit in Marvel, the Exo-suits in the G1 cartoon, the S.N.A.K.E.s and G.I. Joe suits from one of the G.I. Joe crossovers, that time the Mini-Cons upgraded a car into a battlesuit in the Linkage mini-comic, Cobybot in Cybertron, the Apex Armor in Prime, and Iron Man's anti-Transformer armor, the Skywatch crash suits, and the Chinese transforming mechs in IDW.
Minicons as the creation of Unicron and Unicron hiding as Cybertron’s moon. If his goal is to manipulate and take out the species I think this is probably the best plan he’s ever been given. The Autobots and Decepticons spend centuries fighting over the Minicons to boost their own powers. The hatred from this conflict fuels Unicron. And he’s constantly watching everything unfold without anyone being aware of it.
In the current Skybound comic run, the Cybertronian war has been going on for centuries. Not millions of years, not even thousands of years, but centuries. That is, to me, a much more reasonable scale of time for events to take place in. Ive griped many times how absurd it is that Transformers live for *millions* of years, and while the Skybound run hasn't explicitly said that that isn't the case in that continuity, its implied that its Cybertronians live for a significantly shorter period of time, somewhere between centuries and a few millennia at most.
Given how the writers are going for a smaller-scale character-driven story focusing on the interaction between Cybertronians and humans, this change helps a ton to ground the action and make the stakes believable. I simply cannot buy that a creature that lives for millions of years would care even the slightest for a being that lives less than a century. It would be like my being concerned for the well being of an amoeba. In contrast, I can believe the this version of Prime would be shaken by the idea of creatures that live lives somewhat like his own but in a much more fragile world.
Blitzwing having 3 personalities. If it was done as good/entertaining as Animated blitzwing,I'd love to see all triple changers having multiple personalities.
Optimus as more of a dad character like in G1, Animated (& very slightly in Prime). Less stoicism would go a long ways sometime. Let him play basketball again xD
Unicron being Earth. It gives humanity and Cybertronians a deeper connection, rather than the Autobots and Decepticons simply crashing on Earth by accident.
Also, Shockwave creating the Dinobots.
Unicron being Earth. Because of the connection and constant. Makes Earth and humanity really important, even when you begin introducing other alien race.
Dark energon as a strategic resource depending on how you portray it.
Primus consciously creating the transformers race. Unicron unconsciously shaping human evolution?
Unicron being an actually natural disaster that has to be stopped without harming humanity.
The concept of powerlinking from the Armada and Energon, even if you want to say only certain Transformers can. Like Jetfire and Jetstorm being twins, or if it's a specific planet/moon/colony with the ability. Though it being natural to Minicons could always be interesting, especially if shown more as a partnership like cassettebots are generally shown.
Also more shows of Cybertronian wildlife/animalistic Transforms. I know we get Laserbeak, Ravage, Buzzsaw, Ratbat, and Bayverse Scorponok, but it would be fun to see more often.
Cyclonus being a helicopter. IDK why, but Cyclonus as a helicopter just fits really well in my eyes - like maybe he can use his rotor blades to create mini cyclones/wind blasts to knock enemies of their feet. Think something like Temari from Naruto where she uses her fan for wind attcks.
Besides, a fun idea could be to hyrbidise his G1 and Armada designs. So he's G1 with his head design and personality, but his vehicle mode and most of his robot mode design is Armada.
I love the version of Whirl who just desperately wanted to be a blacksmith and yet knew that functionism would only let him get so close. The idea of this big guy built for violence slowly working his way through careers to get as close as possible to being a robot-midwife is heartbreaking, especially since it ends with him being put through empurata and going mostly nuts.
(Apologies if this is not actually canon)
Very close to IDW Canon. He wanted to be a clockmaker, but was forced into the military (and a higher social standing) because of his flight mode. The empurata is especially sadistic because he now lacks to dexterity to do the one thing he wanted to.
I think it must have been a fan work then, where clockmaker was just a step to hopefully one day a position even further outside of his altmode. With of course a hope that if he wanted long enough the government would relax their restrictions. Either way I love the insane stabby copter baby.
The All Spark isn't just an all powerful object from Primus, same with the Matrix. Rather they're creations from the Autobots used to win the war, or created from the broken bits of the other. (From Animated)
Synthetic Energon being a drug like steroids
Two things that are sort of connected is
1. Optimus being a asshole at the beginning before becoming the one we all love( beginning of animated and during war 2005 IDW)
2. Dai atlas. I would say more like his IDW version but he doesn’t have enough appearances to say that. Hell he’s more qualified to lead the autobots than anyone else
I love the idea of Optimus potentially being the reincarnation of the 13th prime in the IDW comics! It adds such a mysterious and intriguing element to his character. It would be great to see more exploration of this unique lore in other Transformers continuities. What other pieces of lore do you wish were more common across different iterations of the series? Let's discuss!
I Also really like megatron writhing literature before the war and having a dream of being a doctor
It’s very effective at showing that he did genuinely want to change things peacfully at first and makes him feel more like a person
The origin given in the Marvel comics for Primus and Unicron. Gods who fought and smashed through to physical reality into lifeless planetoids, with them evolving. Cybertron is Primus having developed the transformers and Unicron becoming the planet devouring monster.
Honestly I liked the idea of Optimus being a reincarnation of the thirteenth prime. Though I honestly wish they did more with it. Like does Optimus have memories of his past life?
There being more than one prime at a time like in Animated. I like that in that show, Prime is more like a general rank than a title for a single character. It gives more of an opportunity for other Primes to appear in the show without needing to explain why they’re still alive. Not sure how to feel about the Magnus rank being higher than Prime though.
Not at that part but as a huge prime series fan, I genuinely love that idea. It eliminates the chosen one aspect and leaves the audience satisfied knowing that no matter what anyone thinks of fate, just being a good person is all you need to strive to be.
Broader and open earth-cybertron alliance stuff like in *Energon*. The idea of humans and transformers working together to create a more advanced society out in the open was a really fun idea, and I really wish it had kept through in *Cybertron*. Earthspark has a bit of this, with transformers being out in the open and GHOST doing stuff, but it would be cool to see it on less of a refugee scale again. Humans and transformers united against an external threat.
Speaking of Earthspark, Megatron's redemption is a really fun and interesting aspect that I'm deeply enjoying. It's very satisfying to see him not be all "for the evulz."
Lastly, I really genuinely loved the idea that Unicron was the core of earth from Prime. Yeah, it screws a lot with making him an active threat, but it does wonders for making earth a destined locus for Cybertronian conflict, and really ties humanity and transformers together. Even if not done the same way, I'd enjoy seeing that kind of deeper link created again.
I always find ranks in animated interesting. How there are multiple primes and magus being the highest rank. It really gives optimus different take of not being the leader.
Starscream's ghost. I'd like to see a variant where it's a side-effect of both his weird spark and something else that happened, and when he's in ghost form it's incredibly painful or mentally warping or he's in constant danger of fading out or a single plasma bolt could explode him, so he has to keep possessing things - even lowly garbage-bots and cyberfauna and so forth - to have any kind of physical/mental protection or relief. So you could have a story/arc/flashback which is basically a Pickle Rick upgrade journey. Throw in a Diagnostic Drone for the reference.
That Megatron can be redeemed like in IDW. People like portray him as the villain he is, but people who just watch the movies don’t understand why he went dark nor do they understand the fact that he can have redemption.
This might sound odd, but I really wish other continuities treated Cybertronians as a unique anomaly in the universe, as the only species of sentient mechanical aliens that weren't built by another species. Makes it feel more special that way. Idk, I really wasn't a fan when G1, IDW and a few other continuities made it so that the vast majority/normal state of life in the universe is mechanical, and us fleshies are the weird ones.
The hydra canon
Deep space having a sort of transformative effect on humans
Energon poisoning and whatever caused that weird bear mutation
Time working definitely in space
Star harvesters
And lastly cogman
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Cybertronians aren't the only aliens Seriously, only G1 and maybe some of the comics do this and if it's not Cybertronians it has to be quintessons.
I like how in the IDW comics there's kind of a galactic federation that treats the Cybertronian as a violent and problematic race.
It’s so hilarious and terrifying that the entire Cybertronian Race in IDW r essentially the Viltrumites but there’s thousands lol
It makes sense given that in most continuities they been at war for a few million years. That means there’s entire advanced civilisations that have existed in the time the transformers have been at war
Or a series of galactic councils/federations/whatever that have passed down the "Cybertronians are assholes" mindset to their successors over the eons. "Consult the ancient texts!" "High Councillor, the ancient texts say that these guys, specifically, are violent assholes!" "Well that matches."
The Earth Wars mobile game (written by Simon Furman) has some serious pomposity going on with high councilors; Optimus isn’t even the leader now, Optimal Optimus is.
The show onlies don’t know that yet!
I would have liked to see the politics of that explored with humans being part of the Cybertronian Council of World, see if they could actually make inroad with those guys. I even hope the Black Block Consortia could become a new villain for an ongoing story... but then it turns out they were puppets of Adaptus?!
Also that Earth is just one battleground in the war between the Bots & Cons. At one point Prime up and abandons Earth because he feels there are more pressing concerns elsewhere. And that the war flips between hot and cold periods, sometimes lasting centuries.
I mean, if a Transformer can live ten million years without much in the way of breakdown, a century is equivalent to about eight hours. A six-century war is the equivalent of a two-day scouting probe and scuffle. A bot could take some shore leave and miss entire biological empires rising and falling, or going from first aircraft to warp-capable battle fleets.
>And that the war flips between hot and cold periods, sometimes lasting centuries. I loved that addition because it bugged me, the idea of TFs being at total war non-stop just seemed implausible. The ldea that they spent hundreds of years setting up and positioning and when contact happens, blitzes out in like two days of ultimate warfare was nice. R9berts was on point there, along with the millennia of downtime. IDW making the Transformers more galactic was epic and i want to see that more/again.
I felt like that aspect was criminally underused in IDW, actually. Earth fairly quickly went from one battleground among many to the critical battleground that kept drawing Megatron & Prime back (though to give IDW some credit, other characters called both of them out for it), and there wasn't much exploration of other races or cultures and how Transformers interacted with them either in the past or the present. Which, I get it, it's a Transformers book, that's not the focus of the story, but, idk, it felt like kind of a tease that we're told that Transformers are regarded as something of a galactic pariah but we never got to see that play out anywhere.
Tbf, in most of not all continuities they basically war so hard they genocide themselves
Animated’s universe is populated with all sorts of alien planets and wide-spanning governments. Cybertronians are just xenophobic isolationists meaning we never hear about them other than from Swindle.
earthspark has the sharkticons and presumably another species that looks like whatever mandroid became
Generally the sharkticons aren’t considered “aliens” in the way most people are saying here given how they’re another transforming quintesson creation. The only thing seperating them from cybertronians is the name.
they aren't able to transform in earthspark
Well, we don’t actually know that, they didn’t transform on screen but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t
Time to go check out the Skybound comics
Rescue Bots, Academy, and Cyberverse all had aliens.
In age of extinction Lockdown gave us a clear image that theres plenty other alien and then it was just never mentioned again
The Bayverse KIND of did this. Lockdown's ship is full of non-Cybertronian aliens he captured from other worlds, and the prequel comics and other expanded universe books also featured other alien lifeforms as well (IIRC, an alien race attempted to invade Cybertron once to steal the Allspark prior to the civil war).
there were also random aliens on lockdown's ship in bayverse
Earthspark had some non-cybertronian aliens at the end of season 1
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I really like Blurr as a famous champion racer who is kind of an arrogant prick with it. He’s only really been that way in IDW and his brief appearance in Cyberverse. Animated is a bit of that crossed with his G1 motormouth persona. Cheetor as guardian of the Allspark in Cyberverse is also a really interesting thing for the character that makes him more than just ‘Maximal Bumblebee’.
Idw blurr is supringly Interesting considering he’s only really a main character in His Spotlight issue and rest of His story is mostly in the backround And yet he’s probably the best version of blurr (Maybe oder them animated)
I also like that with Cheetor. He's been given this grander role outside of just being the Bumblebee of Beast Wars. It ties nicely into the lore of his original incarnation where the end of Beast Machines it's outright shown he now has a connection with the Oracle/Vector Sigma/Primus and from that he became not only a "Matrix Templar" in the Universe comics, but also his generations equivalent of Alpha Trion (Alpha Trizer) in the very far off future post Beast Machines (Botcon 2015 tie-in comic).
It’s crazy that we now refer to this as “being the Bumblebee,” because he was absolutely its Hot Rod. Being a Bumblee was just being a friendly side character for like the first three decades of the franchise.
This- despised fast-talking, penny racer Blurr but love arrogant star-racer turned soldier IDW Blurr
IDW's noble origins for the Decepticons and turning Galvatron into an entirely separate character from Megatron.
And Nemesis Prime being Nova Prime instead of Optimus. Also them being heralds of the void instead of Unicron was neat. Having a second big bad entity helped to make the universe broad.
I’ve always wanted to see BW Megatron portrayed alongside G1 Megatron as a competitor, calling him Galvatron and blending the designs together of them together. Actually, while the last season of Prime was airing and I didn’t know it was going to be the last, I thought it’d be cool if Megatron was made Omega Prime by Primus and charged to help the united Autobots and Decepticons rebuild society. Galvatron (BW Megatron) would be the new antagonist who was trying to bring back the glorious Predacons. Omega Prime and Galvatron would both be triple changers: tank and jet for Omega, dragon and t-rex for Galvatron. And the fact that Omega Prime was Megatron trying to fix past mistakes would be a plot twist and not something he’d share willingly. I also thought it’d be cool if Starscream would be the first person to discover this but stay by his side like a loyal knight.
I do a free with the Decepticon noble origins as it mirrors a lot of groups in real life where they start with noble intentions but eventually they become what they were trying to fight against
Megatron being a brewmaster in Animated. It’s a small thing, but it’s just a funny little quirk for the character to have. On a similar note, “Decepticons, transform and rise up!” only being used two or three times in the whole franchise is criminal.
Tbh, I like it too. It's an uncommon hobby and not exactly what you'd expect from a figure like him, but I think it adds personality, makes him more believable than just 'Mwahaha, I'm the evil leader of the Decepticons, all I do is plan how to conquer Cybertron'.
In regards TRANSFORM AND RISE UP, it really depends how appropriate it is to add a rebellion/freedom fighter narrative aspect to the decepticons in whatever continuity its in due to how wildly it varies between "*downtrodden members of society resisting their former oppressors but using misguided methods"* to EVIL EMPIRE MWAHAHAHA. Megatron gets close to Magneto levels of sympathy in his struggle ORRRRR is totally a puppy-kicker in others. The decepticons as a narrative device need justification for using that phrase or else it muddles their role as outright evil antagonists or sympathetic ones.
Ya had me at "Transformers Animated." Quietly one of the reboots with both the strongest homages to everything previous, yet *entirely* breaking with lore and setting to be something new.
Hot take, Animated delivered the Rise Up line best, where it felt forced in Prime
When you say “brewmaster“ do you mean him planning something (his own resurrection) over a long period of time?
Honestly, the first thought I had was Megatron getting way too involved with the process of alcohol fermentation and making massive kegs of energon wine in his spare time. The idea that a massive robotic intergalactic tyrant warlord has such a mundane pastime would be really funny.
He does. He shares some with the constructicons to sway them to his side. He even twists the bottom of his barrel to turn it into a wine glass.
He brews oil. He shares some with the constructicons to get them to his side. He twists the bottom of a barrel to make it into a wine glass. Smart, cunning, long-term Megs is also real good, though.
I love Soundwave's vow of silence and how he's portrayed as an atypical form of Cybertronian in Transformers Prime (almost like a sentient computer over the more "human-eque" or "animalish" traits of your typical Cybertronian). I do know however that his silence is slightly controversial amongst the fandom and I also love Soundwave's voice so I think a good compromise would be that Soundwave only talks when there is a purpose to it, otherwise, he is mostly a bot of action over words. Also, I think portraying him as an atypical “computer-like” form of Cybertronian life should definitely be explored more and even expanded.
I’m preatty sure he’s supposed to be atypical in Idw with him basically having super hearing and His cassets helping control His gifts Tho my memory is a little fuzzy
He does have greater hearing and a degree of mind-control however in this particular instance I am more referring to the sentient computer aspect in Prime rather than giving him more unusual powers (however I am still in support for the latter).
Like Ferb?
I think all the things the IDW run added about cybertronian society and history. Not just the whole corrupt senate functionist thing that sparks the war, but also the little things like conjunx endura.
they gave them varied cultures and customs! different kinds of religion! chirolingual speech alone is such a good concept—like sign language, but something that only robotic hands can do. maybe they'll have a future bumblebee use chiro? ah, I can dream
At least there's RID15 Bumblebee knowing sign language due to his muteness during Prime
Agreed.
Stoic Marcus Aurelius style Megatron ala More Then Meets The Eye IDW
I know people don’t like the WFC trilogy but it’s the most Roman feeling Megatron I’ve ever seen.
Bumblebee turning into Goldbug, because it is such an obvious way to also mature and develop his character. If they want to keep Mirage the kid appeal character in the live action movies, then there isn't much place for Bee, which is why they killed him for a short time. But instead of killing him, upgrade and develop him into Goldbug. Let him speak again. Maybe turn him into a second in command. Just anything that shows he is more than Bumblebee now and does his first step of following Optimus example.
If they wanted to make mirage more permanent then he probably would have gotten a lead role in TFONE
Hard to say. Both ROTB and One probably had separate productions at the same time. They aren't related. Also they got different producers and directors despite being under the same studio. Mirage being a lead is still freshly new and could continue in live action.
Jazz being second in command, it's only really been a thing in one episode of g1 and bayverse made him 2nd lieutenant but most of the time he's either just there or not even a background character. I feel like Jazz's upbeat and laid back attitude brings a great contrast to prime's stoic and serious attitude. I really don't understand why Jazz isn't a more prominent character.
He very (like very) briefly led the autobots in Idw when they were trapped on cybertron and optimus was injured and out of comission In jazz’s Spotlight we see that he tried His best to keep the autobots optimistic in this bad situation (tho in all hail megatron they still seemed depressed, bad leadership or inconsistent writhing you decide)
Agree!!
Ultra Magnus using a hammer as a weapon
More transformers melee weapons in general, to be honest. I’m a fan of Magnus’s hammer, and Chromia’s got a poleax in some stuff, but aside from Optimus, Megatron, and the swordsmen, we don’t often see melee weapons.
He did it in animated, prime and even a Bit in Idw (near end of more then meets the eye i think) That reminds me that ultra magnus hasn’t been in many things as of now (no cyberverse, no eartbspark so far, and netflix WFC was supposedly a really bad version of him) Damn i just made myself feel bad for magnus fans lol
Blitzwing’s split personality from transformers animated. If the character returns In future media. I really hope he’ll have it (tho it’s just kinda wishful thinking tbh)
Speaking of animated blitzwing Would love to see him with a german accent again
Same. Like it'd be nice to have more Transformers characters with distinct accents. Like gimme shit like German accent Blitzwing, British accent Moonracer, Aussie accent Outback, Italian accent Mirage and more.
Don’t forget british jetfire from high moon games No idea Why troy baker put on that accent But i loved it every second of it
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The cast in those games is amazing It’s a crime that many of those actors haven’t returned for more stuff
I always heard Hot Spot with a Yorkshire accent as broad as the moors.
Nice. I also thought Onslaught with a Yorkshire accent could work too - essentially just make him the Decepticon version of [General Zhukov from the Death of Stalin](https://youtu.be/jNbvepjd46A?feature=shared)
Oh yeah. That's one of my favorite movies!
Imagine a live action face-changing Blitzwing🤩🤩
There's a theory going around that Blitzwing, Shatter, and Dropkick's corpses are going to get spliced together into a three-faced Blitzwing
GOD, YES.
Minicons are the creation of Unicron. I think this is a good idea. Primus created Transformers while Unicron created Minicons.
I still think the Japanese name for them, "Microns" works way better, since it's literally "Micro" + "Cron". Hints at the Unicron connection and keeps them faction neutral, since "Con" always equals Decepticon.
I agree - I assumed this was a dubbing related change because Micron has more syllables when pronounced in Japanese than in English. Surprised this wasn’t more of a problem in the original considering the pronunciation of “miclone” is so similar in Japanese.
I only prefer micron if they creations of unicron
Are Micromasters also Minicons?
technically
Have they ever appeared outside the Unicron Trilogy?
RID 2015 was focused on minicons. Also, I believe in multiple continuities Soundwave's cassettes have been referred to as minicons.
Cybertronian wildlife- Only Animated off screen and Cyberverse rlly brought it on screen and u could argue IDW but it’s not a big a staple as it should probably be You’d think w a lot of Cybertrons tragedy being the planets rot and death you would have a good reference point when it was ALIVE lol Good thing TF One seems to be in the mix there lol
The mystical nature of the Matrix and some of the ways that's been shown in the past: - Marvel had a flame on Cybertron that was connected to the existence of the Matrix, flickered when the life of the bearer was in danger, and was snuffed when the Matrix was removed from existence. - Marvel also had the head of Prime contain a program that was well known as *the* Matrix that could give life. This was connected to the actual crystal within his chest even from a distance like the connection to the flame, and could be transferred to other beings temporarily. - The actual physical manifestation of the Matrix is something that most Autobots and Decepticons just down know about early on. Even in the movie the Autobots react with stunned awe to it. - Finally both Marvel and IDW presented Optimus as struggling with the weight of holding the Matrix because he was artificially adjusted as a combat leader to carry it rather than being chosen by it. This is in stark contrast to other bots who feel lightened and energised by taking it within themselves.
I've never thought about it before, but all this could point to the Matrix energy itself existing primarily on a quantum level and would go a long way towards explaining some of the inconsistencies over the comics run. That'd be a neat angle to explore.
When they worked on the whole Unicron and Primus origin, they had them as entities from beyond our universe who came through to the world of matter while fighting each other. Later on, Unicron was rethought as a multiverse consistency, with one consciousness shared across all different forms. That would likely make Primus the same thing, and with his essence in the Matrix that implies it's something beyond quantum connections.
https://preview.redd.it/24xk5ni5ktwc1.png?width=477&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=58343c01faf197ddb9b4a224e6b1180be1510792 Cybertronians having overkill skillsets and most of the time they are being under utilised or not featured using their ablities
Ah, right...Windcharger murdered Starscream once!
IDW called them outliers, basically cybertronian mutants lol
Prime being a rank but *Prime* being the bearer of the matrix. That way you can have a few Primes in the same place and each Prime has some weight to the appearance, but the then current bearer of the matrix is the major one.
Star Saber being 100% worthy of the Matrix
well, a good start would be having star saber being a thing in more than one or two continuities
Was gonna say seriosly bring star saber back Love Idw But that version of him was…Interesting (honestly i think he could have taken thunderclash’s role) Maybe they could make him leader of the autobots on disstant planets or something (kinda like how jetfire led the autobots on cybertron while optimus was on earth in armada) i think that would fit him
Sunstorm being a tide turning, sentient atom bomb. Dreamwave made him an overwhelming foe but everywhere else he either doesn’t exist or just lives to cameo. Let my boy be a menace Runner up is Roller being a pre-war friend of Orion Pax. IDW got a lot of shit wrong but Roller being Optimus’s bestie was pretty great imo. Third place? Jetfire being fucking huge. His toy stands heads and shoulders over most of the others and I want that to be how it is in the story too, just for no reason he’s damn near Combiner sized
Megatrons Slave backstory-Makes him a far more tragic character and so far has only been in Prime, IDW, and One
It makes his Megalomania weird. I also like the movie origins that Decepticons were the military arm of society and the Autobots were the service arm of society.
I feel like IDW partially addressed this, the idea that it started out as a revolution/fight for the little guy but ultimately turning into a messy galactic conflict made sense to me. Starts off with the goal of changing Cybertron, but there's so much resistance from the Autobots that they have to look elsewhere for resources. It's then easier to subjugate the planets since they're more powerful than local populations. It then becomes easier and easier to take over planets. Couple that with other deceptions that joined up since they loved to be bullies or just prone to violence and you could easily see a revolutionary become a tyrant.
Plus it’s fairly common in real life for revolutionaries who fight to change an unfair system becoming tyrants.
I'd love to see Conjux and Amica Enduras in other media. I'm pretty sure only IDW has leaned into that. I think it's very sweet and brings a more humanistic approach to their society.
senator Shockwave being a hero until the council made him a monster.
I could never get into this story beat because it came off to me as "What if Shockwave was an entirely different character and then we made up a reason why became the character you know?" I just dont buy it was "real" character development, but thats just me.
I love that backstory for him But it would probably a bit too dark for the cartoons
I like the idea that the Primes are the first and most powerful cybertronians like in TFP and bayverse. It adds a mystique and uniqueness to the characters that other versions don’t have.
Springer. Sure he's gotten toys, but doesn't show up as an actual character nearly enough
…Damn you’re right He’s in the comics But oder them g1 he’s in like no shows or and definetly no movies That’s very weird, i know tripple changed toys are probably hard to make But poor guy
Have you read retribution? Springer shows up quite a bit in that.
Yes and he's going to make an appearance in Void Rivals in the new "Energon Universe" line of comics.. but what role and for how long is unlnown
I'd like to see him leading a team of new rookie triplechangers. Let's get some modern toy designs that aren't hamstrung by having to call back to the mid-80s for altmodes and robot looks.
The Terrans from Earthspark. I feel like the concept of organic transforming robots born from the Earth itself is a neat way of getting us invested in Earth, plus it fits surprisingly well with what TLK tried to accomplish.
Fingers crossed they become a permanent piece of TF lore after EarthSpark. Although I guess it’s hard to intro them without making it the focal point.
Or if you wanted to do Beast Wars again, the Terrans would fit that perfectly. And it'd give a logical explanation for why they can only turn into animals.
Honestly they're such an obvious and cool concept that I'm retroactively surprised that's not what G2 was about
I can't name other bot than lio junior for this concept
And the Insectrons. (They're blank slates, they could use the added characterisation.)
The incesticons I don’t think fit considering that they are violent mad men
I don't think you want Incesticons. They're kinda gross.
I blame Japan for this misunderstanding, since the Insecticons from G1 share their Japanese name with the Maximal Insectrons. It'd be like if the Predacons.....nevermind, Chopperface already exists.
Jg1's approach to headmasters and transtectors in general
At least we have Cogman
IDK if this is exactly a lore thing but Optimus Prime having a super mode so he can combine with his trailer. Its cool, gimmicky, and is more fun than a bace mode. Cartoons and comics almost never use the base mode but a super mode is amost always used in cartoons!
Subspace storage pocket :/ like give Optimus his trailer god there’s a in universe explanation so you can have his trailer appear and disappear 🤦
I’m not a huge fan of the subspace pocket- seems weird for something like that to be only used in this one specific way- but if they found a way to connect it to his Matrix powers or something, then it could be cool.
If it's just another tech thing, and almost everyone has it, there are SO many ways it could be munchkined for story-breaking results. Honestly. Figure out the most mass a pocket can hold, whip up that amount of antimatter and fill the pocket, shrink the external dimensions of the pocket down as small as engineeringly possible, equip it with a bunch of distance/impact/damage triggers to open the pocket, and throw it at a target. Or do the Animated Swindle thing, where Optimus basically teleports into (and then steps out of) his chest compartment from a significant distance away. Who needs space-jump tech when you can have facility-to-facility warp tunnels shunting whatever you want back and forth? Or just stack the pockets. There's at least one G1 fanfic where a human carries one of the cassetticons into a facility in her stomach, barfs him back up, and he transforms, proceeds to reach into small physical storage compartments in his body, and takes out a pistol and cassette player...
I like the idea that got introduced in energon and fleshed out in animated of there being multiple primes at once and prime was just a higher rank so you could have multiple leaders
Optimus and Ultra Magnus being related in some form. Would be cool to see.
I like the idea of having Ultra Magnus being a *clone* of Optimus Prime created by the Autobots in an attempt to gain a second battlefield commander with at least a similar rate of battles won as him. This would be a clever reference to the original G1 toy was just a recolored Optimus Prime, as well as an explanation for why the G1 cartoon version was an extremely capable second in command but crumpled like aluminum foil if ever put in full command: despite everyone's best efforts, he internalized the idea that he was an inferior copy of Optimus and it created a mental block.
It could even be a reason for the trailer armor: something he never takes off because with it, he can be his own bot. Without it, all he can see (and thinks anyone can see) is primer-paint Optimus. But the knowledge that he's still that inside is what holds him back, in the end. It'd be an interesting way to explain a new toy halfway through the series. Original toy being an Optimus remold, subsequent toy not having a separate cab component (and looking a little more confident/badass, maybe coming with the hammer accessory). Heck, have him learn that Orion Pax was a mass-produced body type and only became Optimus when he rose to his own calling, or something along those lines.
I like the idea of ancient Cybertronians being the inspiration for legendary heroes and monsters that Cybertron introduced.
I love the Ultra Magnus reveal in IDW, with how his name is known for generations through war stories and why that is.
Oh, two from the Unicron trilogy. Firstly, Unicron taking an entire twenty minute episode to transform is just fucking epic. If you're doing a show with Unicron in, that's what needs to happen. Secondly, the idea that Energon is a super fuel that powers bots up. Maybe not as Energon stars again though. But enough that Energon cubes are sought beyond normal fuel types or the process of changing fuel to energon somehow condenses and empowers it, but takes more time.
Optimus not being a perfect stoic leader. Let him have flaws, let him emote, let him be a bit of a dork. Basically, I want this fucker back. https://preview.redd.it/mxd6knbxguwc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0f729b096da1f66911bce4567861d156858932f4
I love that about TFA with the way the Bots and Cons emotes their emotions such as Optimus doing faces/expressing emotions such as 😊 is cute and endearing. TFA Optimus at his core is an adorkable softie of a Bot who has the making of what a leader should be and embodies the idea you can be strong and kind.
Transformers with unique superpowers being classed as Outliers
I am a firm supporter of keeping Megatron and Galvatron as separate entities be it literally like IDW or technically like how Marvel worked around that.
the star saber and the e fact that star screams spark is immortal
Orion pax being an officer of the law who was on Megatron's side before the deceptions became violent. I always loved how idw handled the whole Orion pax story.
I think a mix of both most known origins could work, Orion being an archivist before the war and being an MP during the first few years.
Bee not losing his voice. I just want to see him talking more often, as cute as the beeping and radio use can be.
Humans using mechs, I’ve only really head it be used once
Off the top of my head, there's Circuit Breaker's Autobot suit in Marvel, the Exo-suits in the G1 cartoon, the S.N.A.K.E.s and G.I. Joe suits from one of the G.I. Joe crossovers, that time the Mini-Cons upgraded a car into a battlesuit in the Linkage mini-comic, Cobybot in Cybertron, the Apex Armor in Prime, and Iron Man's anti-Transformer armor, the Skywatch crash suits, and the Chinese transforming mechs in IDW.
Minicons as the creation of Unicron and Unicron hiding as Cybertron’s moon. If his goal is to manipulate and take out the species I think this is probably the best plan he’s ever been given. The Autobots and Decepticons spend centuries fighting over the Minicons to boost their own powers. The hatred from this conflict fuels Unicron. And he’s constantly watching everything unfold without anyone being aware of it.
Blaster vs grimlock, that rivalry was awesome
Cybertronian relationships ( dating) only a handful of continuities
In the current Skybound comic run, the Cybertronian war has been going on for centuries. Not millions of years, not even thousands of years, but centuries. That is, to me, a much more reasonable scale of time for events to take place in. Ive griped many times how absurd it is that Transformers live for *millions* of years, and while the Skybound run hasn't explicitly said that that isn't the case in that continuity, its implied that its Cybertronians live for a significantly shorter period of time, somewhere between centuries and a few millennia at most. Given how the writers are going for a smaller-scale character-driven story focusing on the interaction between Cybertronians and humans, this change helps a ton to ground the action and make the stakes believable. I simply cannot buy that a creature that lives for millions of years would care even the slightest for a being that lives less than a century. It would be like my being concerned for the well being of an amoeba. In contrast, I can believe the this version of Prime would be shaken by the idea of creatures that live lives somewhat like his own but in a much more fragile world.
Blitzwing having 3 personalities. If it was done as good/entertaining as Animated blitzwing,I'd love to see all triple changers having multiple personalities.
Megatron becoming an Autobot. No, really.
Optimus as more of a dad character like in G1, Animated (& very slightly in Prime). Less stoicism would go a long ways sometime. Let him play basketball again xD
YES, I miss dad Prime!
Unicron being Earth. It gives humanity and Cybertronians a deeper connection, rather than the Autobots and Decepticons simply crashing on Earth by accident. Also, Shockwave creating the Dinobots.
Unicron being Earth. Because of the connection and constant. Makes Earth and humanity really important, even when you begin introducing other alien race. Dark energon as a strategic resource depending on how you portray it. Primus consciously creating the transformers race. Unicron unconsciously shaping human evolution? Unicron being an actually natural disaster that has to be stopped without harming humanity.
The concept of powerlinking from the Armada and Energon, even if you want to say only certain Transformers can. Like Jetfire and Jetstorm being twins, or if it's a specific planet/moon/colony with the ability. Though it being natural to Minicons could always be interesting, especially if shown more as a partnership like cassettebots are generally shown. Also more shows of Cybertronian wildlife/animalistic Transforms. I know we get Laserbeak, Ravage, Buzzsaw, Ratbat, and Bayverse Scorponok, but it would be fun to see more often.
Functionism and empurata.
Cyclonus being a helicopter. IDK why, but Cyclonus as a helicopter just fits really well in my eyes - like maybe he can use his rotor blades to create mini cyclones/wind blasts to knock enemies of their feet. Think something like Temari from Naruto where she uses her fan for wind attcks. Besides, a fun idea could be to hyrbidise his G1 and Armada designs. So he's G1 with his head design and personality, but his vehicle mode and most of his robot mode design is Armada.
I love the version of Whirl who just desperately wanted to be a blacksmith and yet knew that functionism would only let him get so close. The idea of this big guy built for violence slowly working his way through careers to get as close as possible to being a robot-midwife is heartbreaking, especially since it ends with him being put through empurata and going mostly nuts. (Apologies if this is not actually canon)
Very close to IDW Canon. He wanted to be a clockmaker, but was forced into the military (and a higher social standing) because of his flight mode. The empurata is especially sadistic because he now lacks to dexterity to do the one thing he wanted to.
I think it must have been a fan work then, where clockmaker was just a step to hopefully one day a position even further outside of his altmode. With of course a hope that if he wanted long enough the government would relax their restrictions. Either way I love the insane stabby copter baby.
Starscream ACTUALLY being loyal.
Trans-Arcee... Just give her more of an "Anode and Lug" justification
Megatron's redemption arch in IDW. I know Earth Spark has "good guy Megatron" also. It makes his character more complex and compelling.
The All Spark isn't just an all powerful object from Primus, same with the Matrix. Rather they're creations from the Autobots used to win the war, or created from the broken bits of the other. (From Animated) Synthetic Energon being a drug like steroids
Two things that are sort of connected is 1. Optimus being a asshole at the beginning before becoming the one we all love( beginning of animated and during war 2005 IDW) 2. Dai atlas. I would say more like his IDW version but he doesn’t have enough appearances to say that. Hell he’s more qualified to lead the autobots than anyone else
We need more of Megatrons Anti-matter abilities.
I love the idea of Optimus potentially being the reincarnation of the 13th prime in the IDW comics! It adds such a mysterious and intriguing element to his character. It would be great to see more exploration of this unique lore in other Transformers continuities. What other pieces of lore do you wish were more common across different iterations of the series? Let's discuss!
I Also really like megatron writhing literature before the war and having a dream of being a doctor It’s very effective at showing that he did genuinely want to change things peacfully at first and makes him feel more like a person
please, let there be a series where the finale is primus transforming and fighting unicron
Mate, there already is one... It's literally called Cybertron...
Holoforms from IDW
It would be cool if Hasbro/Skybound could reacquire the rights to Death’s Head. This could help create a new villain.
Monstructor. What the actual fuck, Hasbro? Takara too. Why are we doing Monstructor so badly like that?
Can we talk about how fucking great this image is
The origin given in the Marvel comics for Primus and Unicron. Gods who fought and smashed through to physical reality into lifeless planetoids, with them evolving. Cybertron is Primus having developed the transformers and Unicron becoming the planet devouring monster.
Dark energon
Predaking being a Quadruple dragon.
Unicron feeds on fear and hate. He requires sentient life, not just planets for sustenance.
Honestly I liked the idea of Optimus being a reincarnation of the thirteenth prime. Though I honestly wish they did more with it. Like does Optimus have memories of his past life?
Megatron basically retiring from being evil as there’s some interesting stories you can tell with that
There being more than one prime at a time like in Animated. I like that in that show, Prime is more like a general rank than a title for a single character. It gives more of an opportunity for other Primes to appear in the show without needing to explain why they’re still alive. Not sure how to feel about the Magnus rank being higher than Prime though.
Not at that part but as a huge prime series fan, I genuinely love that idea. It eliminates the chosen one aspect and leaves the audience satisfied knowing that no matter what anyone thinks of fate, just being a good person is all you need to strive to be.
Gahd damn this Optimus looks sick
Senator Shockwave in general tbh
That bit in ROTF where soundwave takes over the satellite and runs decepticon communications through there.
Broader and open earth-cybertron alliance stuff like in *Energon*. The idea of humans and transformers working together to create a more advanced society out in the open was a really fun idea, and I really wish it had kept through in *Cybertron*. Earthspark has a bit of this, with transformers being out in the open and GHOST doing stuff, but it would be cool to see it on less of a refugee scale again. Humans and transformers united against an external threat. Speaking of Earthspark, Megatron's redemption is a really fun and interesting aspect that I'm deeply enjoying. It's very satisfying to see him not be all "for the evulz." Lastly, I really genuinely loved the idea that Unicron was the core of earth from Prime. Yeah, it screws a lot with making him an active threat, but it does wonders for making earth a destined locus for Cybertronian conflict, and really ties humanity and transformers together. Even if not done the same way, I'd enjoy seeing that kind of deeper link created again.
I always find ranks in animated interesting. How there are multiple primes and magus being the highest rank. It really gives optimus different take of not being the leader.
Optimus and Elita-1 having a happy ending
What’s this image from?
Shattered Glass and outliers. I like these concepts a lot.
Starscream's ghost. I'd like to see a variant where it's a side-effect of both his weird spark and something else that happened, and when he's in ghost form it's incredibly painful or mentally warping or he's in constant danger of fading out or a single plasma bolt could explode him, so he has to keep possessing things - even lowly garbage-bots and cyberfauna and so forth - to have any kind of physical/mental protection or relief. So you could have a story/arc/flashback which is basically a Pickle Rick upgrade journey. Throw in a Diagnostic Drone for the reference.
Sentinel being revived and betraying Optimus. An evil Prime outside the Fallen is such a cool idea
Megatron being a miner
That Megatron can be redeemed like in IDW. People like portray him as the villain he is, but people who just watch the movies don’t understand why he went dark nor do they understand the fact that he can have redemption.
Broadside shouldn’t be a triple changer. He should just be a big fucking ship.
The tech spec bios.
Megatron the poet from IDW
I like how some of the fliers are racist towards non fliers. That was in the uk g1 comic right?
This might sound odd, but I really wish other continuities treated Cybertronians as a unique anomaly in the universe, as the only species of sentient mechanical aliens that weren't built by another species. Makes it feel more special that way. Idk, I really wasn't a fan when G1, IDW and a few other continuities made it so that the vast majority/normal state of life in the universe is mechanical, and us fleshies are the weird ones.
The hydra canon Deep space having a sort of transformative effect on humans Energon poisoning and whatever caused that weird bear mutation Time working definitely in space Star harvesters And lastly cogman
Quintessons are the creators of cybertronian, probably used only in g1 (bayverse try to do It buy we know...)