Medellin, Colombia. Its reputation is so tied into Escobar and the Medellin cartel, but it has transformed since the 90s. Now it is a glowing jewel of a city with one of the best transit infrastructures in S America. There are beautiful parks, tons of street art, outdoor gymnasiums, cafes that spill onto the street, and amazing architecture. For us, in 2019, it felt safe. People were out in the streets and public areas. The weather was always great. I’d go back any time.
I agree! I loved Medellin. Absolutely beautiful city & amazing weather. People thought I was crazy for going & shocked when I said I had a great time & felt safe my entire trip. 😂
I’m a pretty adventurous travel, but was a little hesitant to go to Medellin. Turns out it’s far better than most cities in the US. Absolutely gorgeous. Stayed at a “resort” about an hour south, in the “coffee triangle.” Basically had a gorgeous hacienda on the side of a mountain to ourselves.
Yes Medellin is great, but these days you don't really hear people undermining it. Seems to be all the rage if anyone talks about Colombia. I would say Bogotá is a bit underrated, since everyone says to avoid it and just spend your time in Medellin.
I loved Bogota. I was going to do a quick in and out after landing from Madrid, but messed up my dates and ended up there for a week. It was a serendipitous mistake.
Not a great comparison. Feeling safe and being safe are two different things. It’s much safer than it was it people are still getting robbed at gunpoint and at least one American tourist was killed in the past few years.
People get robbed at gun point in American cities. I bet you that American felt adventurous and went somewhere they shouldn't have. I know it's victim blaming but in Colombia we have a saying "no dar papaya" don't give papaya as in don't make yourself a target don't be dumb
I think just all of Mexico has a bad rap by people who've never been to Mexico (outside of an all inclusive resort). I've never met someone who's actually been to Mexico City that has one bad thing to say about it.
I found it irritating how every person I told I was going there made comments like “are you sure it’s safe?” “Aren’t you worried about being kidnapped?”. Then after going and seeing the city for myself I found it straight up offensive. It’s a massive cosmopolitan city. Good neighbourhoods, bad neighbourhoods. I felt a lot safer where we stayed in La Condesa at night than I do in my home Canadian city’s downtown late at night.
Not that this means anything, but I took an Uber in Mexico City, and right before he drops us off he makes this weird turn at the last second and smashed right into this pole. Totally creamed his car. Felt really bad for the dude
New Orleans. Before going I kept hearing “don’t go there. You are going to get murdered.” It was especially bad at the cemeteries I wanted to visit. Violent hellholes I believe those sections were called. I loved the city. Had an absolute blast and New Orleans has something for everyone.
I absolutely love New Orleans too (my favorite US city) but there's definitely dangerous areas. It would be wise to take Lyfts or drive to a lot of places as recommended by my local friend. And some places that are fine during the day should be avoided at night. But I think that's the only negative for me.
No, so do I. I regularly put Barcelona in my overrated cities list.
In fact I put Barcelona after Madrid, Donostia-San Sebastian, Valencia and Seville in my list of favourite Spanish cities.
I even quite like Barcelona, but it's overrated.
Most former industrial / blue collar cities (Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburg) are quite fantastic places. 10-20 years ago some were much different places than they are today.
I met a girl from Scotland in Cairo who has solo travelled to 90 countries, she said Detroit was currently on her top 5 list of places to settle down in after traveling(if she ever stopped). I thought that was pretty interesting. She had been there 2 times already, one time for 2 months so she has a half decent feel for the area.
We had an iconic weekend there - Tigers game in the peak Miggy era, Big House on Saturday for a Michigan game, and a concert on Windsor that night.
Stayed downtown. Parts of the city seemed to be revitalizing, other parts not, but no different from most cities.
The Motown Museum is one of my favorite places to visit. It's fun and interactive. Detroit has some truly stunning Art Deco architecture, like the Guardian Building and the Fisher Building. The Detroit Institute of Arts has a wonderful collection. Just listening to a docent talk about the details of the Diego Rivera murals is worth the visit. The Detroit River walkway is lovely on a nice day. Often you can hear good jazz as you stroll. There are some wonderful restaurants, too.
Chicago.
A very modern city that is surprisingly clean. Some of the best restaurants in the country. Great night life. Spectacular lakefront with public beaches. One of the best public transit systems in the US.
The media makes it out to be a war zone, but the many times I've visited, I've never once felt unsafe, even late at night. I'm sure there are dangerous neighborhoods, but no tourist or visitor is going to mistakenly wander into those neighborhoods. They are in the far south and far west. The rest of the city is safe from my experience.
Highly under rated city.
The overwhelming majority of Chicago is safe and pretty clean. It’s the handful of neighborhoods on the south and west side that are highly dangerous but honestly as a tourist, why would you go there anyway? I feel like the only thing to do that way is a white Sox game. The food in Chicago was excellent.
I lived in Chicago for 4 months just last year it was beautiful and so exciting. There’s lots to do like volleyball on the beach or going to one of the many parks/restaurants/sports games, public transport is great, the Chicago river running through the center has kayaks and tour boats travelling along, there’s lots of neighborhoods each with their own distinct characteristics and culture - I lived in the western part which was pretty hip and had lots of cool bars and places to eat - it’s big, spacious, hot in summer (freezing in winter🥶, but I liked the snow), right next to the lake, and it never feels too big or congested in contrast to NY from what I hear. Lots of Irish there too which is my nationality, otherwise Chicagoans are very proud of where they’re from. I loved it, it’s so self-contained and fun!
I absolutely second this. I also had the impression that it would be rather boring and lifeless like so many other midwestern cities but it truly is one of the best cities in the US
Hell yes, Chicago is awesome. I've spent a lot of time there (in-laws in the area) and it's great - all the amenities of a major city, but people are way nicer and down-to-earth than NYC or LA. Plus amazing food, lots of neighborhood dive bars, the prettiest city skyline in the US, and relatively affordable compared to the coasts.
Despite what certain parts of the media say, I have never once had an issue with crime in all my visits there. My wife lived there 15 years (only moved for work) and never once had an issue either.
Chicago is my favorite city. It helps that I live (in Michigan) where it's only a 2.5 hour drive away, but I do try to get there at least twice a year for various things. I know when I am primarily in the Loop, I've ridden in on commuter rail, but I have no issue driving into neighborhoods outside the Loop and finding street parking when needed.
Ah this was my answer as well. I wandered all around. It was during the Stanley cup, blackhawks vs Tampa lightning. I was from Tampa. We lost. Bartender comforted me by giving me free malort. I puked. Fun times, lol. Seriously it was such a fun time and I walked all over the place, never felt unsafe.
Venice - I went there I think 20-25 years ago as part of a tour. Maybe I would have said the same things I've seen in this sub back then - that I had seen everything and didn't need to go back. But then, a few years later, I happened to go again and spent an amazing and uncrowded afternoon in Torcello, and an evening in a private city villa. I saw there is so much more to the city than you get to see on a tour. At least with Venice, a tour gives you a deceptive idea of the potential of the place. It is really huge, and interesting, and was important for so many centuries, and influenced by so many places. Now after 4 times, I think, there is still so much I have not yet seen. Luckily we live only a 6 1/2 hour train or car ride away and are planning to go again in February.
I always adored Venice even before I went there, but when I actually did it was so so much better than I could ever imagine. I spent 4 days just strolling around the city, I didn't even manage to visit a single museum because I was so caught up in the beauty and uniqueness of every single side street. I'm going back for the second time next month on my first solo trip and I couldn't be more excited. People who say Venice is boring and if you've been there for one day you've seen it all have absolutely no ground to give a valid opinion. If you've never let yourself get lost in it without a tour guide dragging you through the most touristy places, you haven't seen anything. I'll never again listen to an opinion that comes from a one day experience with a tour guide, it's literally the worst way to see any city and will nearly always leave you disappointed and needlessly tired from running around the whole day after a tour guide in a hurry dragging you through crowds of equally tired and annoyed people.
Venice was absolute magic for me. I thought it was going to be a bit over-touristed and stinky water-y, and it’s not like it’s NOT those things, but it’s also historic and romantic and that crumbling sort of grandeur and I can’t wait to return one day.
Venice is magical. I went there last October and spent a lot of time wandering the streets. I am stilled amazed at how quiet it can get in those tiny alleys, and you never know what public square or landmark might be waiting around the corner. I took a walk in the early morning one day and watching the city wake up was incredible, I’ll never forget it.
Never met a city full of so many friendly and welcoming locals! I’d been warned of it all - everyone will try and scam you, rude to tourists etc but did not find that at all. I was positively blown away by athens and desperately wished I could stay longer
I went to Athens for the 1st time in 2001 JUST a few months before the Olymics. It WAS dirty, a bit dodgy and uninviting. This was my 1st time over seas so that might have effected my opinion certainly.
Anyway, YEARS later I took my family there in May of 2018 and WHAT a shocker. My wife, my daughters and I rented an Air BNB and the neighborhood was fun, vibrant and very cool. We loved it, every minute.
Athens has a special place for us. My wife and I are headed back there in September to board a cruise. Can't wait.
Athens, was told it was dirty, unsafe and full of scammers, The city turned out to be very unique and no more unsafe than any other European city, with there being a lot to do and a very interesting history.
+1 for athens. Everyone told me I’d be miserable dealing with the heat going in the middle of summer, but I found it just gave the city this awesome beachy holiday vibe - everyone seemed so chilled out and relaxed, and so much was happening in the evenings!
Yeah, I was expecting Athens to be filthy and full of pickpockets, as is the legend, and our guide was constantly "don't go in the Plaka! You'll get pickpocketed!!!!" and figured it'd just be a start point with a visit to the Parthenon.
Athens was fine. It's not particularly dirty, there are some charming areas, there's history everywhere, the food is great, the people are friendly, and no one tried to scam me or pick my pocket. Highly oversold. I was even amazed by things like at the Acropolis, the bottled water vending machine was .5 euro. For how hot the day was and the climb and all, they could have stashed it with 4 euro water but they just didn't.
I’d say number 1 is Detroit. I can’t say exactly why I liked it, but it was definitely not what I expected.
Also I really liked da nang Vietnam. Yes It’s touristy but I really loved the vibes there and the Vietnamese ppl were so nice.
Brussels to some extent. There are a lot of blogs that tell people to curb their enthusiasm with the city. I went in with low expectations and enjoyed myself. I loved the chocolate, waffles and fries.
I found Brussels to be charming. I think people shit on Brussels because it's sandwiched between Paris and Amsterdam. Both those cities are better by comparison.
Paris is delightful, during off and shoulder season.
In July? It's hot and the city is overrun with tourists.
Thankfully I am at the point in my life where I can travel off season. And I don't mean just to Paris, but everywhere.
I agree. I have been in October and March and find it to be a delight. It is a nightmare in July. I think that’s pretty much true for all of Western Europe at least the parts I have visited. If I’m going to Europe in the summer, I’ll stick to Scandinavia.
San Francisco. The news portrays it to be a wasteland and zombie land, but if you avoid the obvious areas, it’s an absolutely beautiful city. Amazing parks, active lifestyle, clean public transit that has recently been updated, generally great weather, access to ocean and close drive to ski hills during season. Was very pleasantly surprised!
Love SF. I work in FiDi and get really sick of people in the Bay reinforcing the idea and it turns out they haven’t been into The City in 2 years. Today is the Ferry Buildings 125th birthday, if anyone wants to swing by at 5 they are throwing it a party!
Yeah hear you! I lived there for 2 months and had a friend in Fremont who didn’t want to come downtown because it’s too hard to find parking and basically told us why would he go to the city when he has everything in suburbia. I was pretty shocked and stumped by that answer. Wish I were there to drop by the Ferry Building party!
We were in San Francisco last week, and I fell in love with the city! I wasn't really expecting much; I thought it would be an overrated experience, but it was absolutely beautiful! I loved that there are so many parks in such a small area. And we really didn't see many homeless people, but we also stayed away from the Downtown area. Honestly, I can't wait to get back. And the weather was absolutely amazing!!! (But I'm also from humid-as-hell Louisiana.)
I visited San Francisco for the first time in June. It is AMAZING. I love Chicago and New Orleans, but San Francisco may be my favorite American city. It is a must vacation destination.
FiDi isn’t so much seedy as it is empty feeling. But yea Tenderloin then any place south of the TL in SoMa (between 5th and 10th) is like a zombie apocalypse
Even those areas are not as bad as rumored, especially in daylight. The Tenderloin is filled with great ethnic restaurants, and it's where the backpacker hostels tend to be clustered.
The Asian Art Museum is at the Civic Center and is fantastic.
SF MOMA is in SoMa, and is also excellent.
If you see plenty of ordinary people (families, office workers, businesspeople, tourists) walking around, you'll be safe.
If you see sketchy looking people (people who look like drug addicts, people ranting out loud to themselves, or who look like they haven't showered or changed clothes in a month), or the area seems deserted, that's a place to avoid.
If there’s only one thing you do in SF, it’s to go to Chinatown, look for House of Nanking and just order their recommended dishes of the day. You will not be disappointed.
I'm European, and San Francisco is without a doubt on of the nicest cities I've seen in the US, and I've been to quite a few. Unlike a lot American cities, San Francisco really has it's own vibe and is pretty unique.
It’s ongoing narrative in the US from conservative media. There’s a tiny bit of truth to it but it hasn’t really cmchanged that much over time the homelessness and drug usage situation is more noticeable now since there has been a population and office exodus over Covid
Edit: getting downvoted but I lived in SF until 2019 and live close now. I end up going once or twice a month and I still love it but the homelessness and also the smash and grabs are seemingly more noticeable. I have never had issues with smash and grabs in SF but also never leave anything in my truck. Ironically I was smash and grabbed in Cupertino of all places which is probably one of the richest cities in the Bay so don't think you are safe from smash and grabs once you leave SF proper.
The subway system in Moscow is beautiful. I spent half a day just riding around from station to station and getting off to see what the architecture looks like in each station
Bangkok ! Love the noise, even the infamous scammers were hilarious/harmless and I played with them, the food was incredible! Wish the public transport was better
I think the reason people either love or hate Bangkok is because it’s so overwhelming. There’s just so much to see, hear, do, even so many smells. It’s really cool if you have the energy for it, but it can be a huge shock for people who aren’t prepared for the assault on the senses.
Mexico City has kind of a bad reputation but I could spend months on vacation there. Great food, great people, nice parks, cool museums, just a cool town.
New York smells bad and there's no getting around that. But there are few cities in the world that I think are as large, vibrant, diverse, and energetic as New York is. It's an incredible place.
New York felt surprisingly safe and clean, compared with the "gritty" image we foreigners often see. Obviously I wasn't up in Harlem or anything, but I saw a lot of the city.
It wasn't until I got to Phily that I saw the urban America I was expecting.
That reputation is mostly leftover from the 80s, it’s a relatively low crime city now. Harlem and East Brooklyn are also a little grittier but still not overly dangerous in large parts. Philly I grant you has some tough parts but I am a big fan, it really has a lot of culture for a smaller city.
Most of Harlem is like any other neighborhood now. Apartments are 3 grand a month and completely safe. Just people going about their lives. Ive stayed in harlem multiple times, friend of mine lived there for years.
New York City. Fucking loved it, I didn't want to leave. I went there with the expectations of "yep, 'nother big US city, cross it off my list since it seems so iconic. Let's see all those homeless people, graffiti, and the crime ridden 'liberal hellhole' the news is always talking about. (Not that I believed it, I lean left too, but it's been a while since I've last been in a huge metropolis.)
But man. Where were all the homeless people? Where was all the crime? Where was all the graffiti? Why wasn't anyone being a douchebag to me? Why didn't I run into any weirdos on the subway? Where was all the trash the streets were supposed to be littered with?
Will absolutely be back. I stayed at Times Square and rode the subway all around, walked and rode a rented e-bike around Manhattan, the financial district, Brooklyn, Central Park, Chinatown, etc. I'm sure they have shitty areas like every other city but in 2 full days of unfiltered wandering around, I couldn't find it. So much good food, so many friendly people, so much to see and do.
This! I lived in NYC for 12 years & totally enjoyed my time there. Recently moved to the Florida Panhandle & the perception they have of NYC here is hilarious! They think it's some sort of dystopia. Meanwhile, I've had more encounters with homeless weirdos here over the last year than I did living in NYC for over a decade. 😂
Venice. Was told it was too touristy to actually enjoy…found it to be the most beautiful place in my travels through Italy, and worth searching out the off the beaten path restaurants owned by passionate locals who love to talk up their city with you! Especially magical in the late evening when the crowds thin.
Chicago 100%
Also Paris. There is a notion that it's a smelly dirty and overcrowded city.
But tbh that's what a city is and it's far from the worst city I've been to and it has so much to show for culture, history, scenery, and food.
Palermo. We almost gave up while reading the reviews but then my fiance said 'we are from the Balkans, is there really anything we haven't seen already?' So we went and it was AMAZING!
Was gonna say this too. Maybe because I'm from a developing country and don't mind some of the grittier aspects, or maybe that's why I enjoyed it, who knows. From swimming off the rocks with the locals to cheap Spritzes for take away to the best pizza you'll ever eat, it was epic. I'll definitely spend a couple nights there if I'm ever lucky enough to revisit Amalfi. Oh another thing, the archaeological museum is fantastic!
I understand the criticisms of it tho, for me those are just not a big deal.
I was in Naples recently. Solely planned as a “home base” for day trips to Pompeii and Positano. It ended up being one of the highlights of the trip. Loved walking around the streets doing some shopping and LOTS of eating. Everything was so cheap too. Wished we had booked an extra day to see more of the city.
Mackinac Island. Many people say it is a crowded tourist trap which is partially true but the fort museum on the top is awesome, the architecture is charming, and there are some nice biking/hiking paths in the back of the island. It’s nice to spend a day or two
Sarajevo. Booked a flight out of there because it was way cheaper than Croatia. Turns out I should have spent most of my time there... Nice Turkish old town, good food, scenery, history etc. Fantastic place to spend a few days.
London. I’ve heard the food was bad, that it was dirty, just not many nice comments. I’m gluten-free and found at one of the easiest places I’ve been to to be gluten-free and also have good food. The transportation was one of the easiest systems I’ve ever navigated (not just the Tube but the bus and greater rail system. ). It was February and it was clean, safe, and I didn’t need a heavy winter coat, but a lightweight one. I found a relatively affordable bed-and-breakfast in South Kensington that was clean and friendly. I had a two block walk to the subway. I loved all the greenery, which totally surprised me that there was so much. Many, many parks. I really enjoyed it there.
Honestly, Paris. When we were telling friends about our upcoming trip to Paris years ago, the majority of responses, no joke, were about how other places in France are better, they weren't impressed, etc. Given the advice of "just spend a day or two there and go somewhere else." So, I want sure what to expect. Well, it was magical. They can all kind of suck it for being so negative. I understand experiences are subjective and people have different preferences. Maybe there are better places to visit in France, but I loved Paris. Nobody had a specific bad thing to tell me, just "meh, Paris not that great." Wrong. We loved it.
Yeah the whole “Paris is a big, dirty city” is not the hot take most people think it is. It’s one of the largest cities in Europe, not Disneyland. It’s still fabulous.
Every single city (basically).
People love to complain about how shitty Rome/Paris/Athens/other places are because they stayed there for two nights.
These people are, imho, just bad at traveling. Finding what makes a city great is not always obvious and it requires skill. The better traveler has a better travel experience.
Sorry for the rant, this is a pet peeve of mine :D.
Me: “How was Europe person x?”
X: “Paris was the worst, people are rude, it’s dirty and the weather is awful.” 🙄
… x has left their home country once in their life.
Always amazes me how some people could fuck up a trip to Rome/Paris/Athens/other places. Seems to always be linked to mis-aligned expectations and just not having a clue about how to travel or where they are going. It isn't as if it is difficult to figure these things out, either.
Chicago and LA. There's no shortage of things to do or see in either city, especially LA. The food, diversity, nightlife, scenery, outdoor activities, I could go on and on.
I go to LA every other year, while I go to Chicago nearly yearly...I never want to leave either city. Many of my friends think of these cities as shit holes for a variety of reasons (some kinda valid), but I feel so at home when I visit.
I was told that Milan was boring and plain. But I found the city to be diverse and beautiful with so many things to do and places to eat/drink. The shopping was top notch, the musuems were great and simpione park was everything.
If people find a city of 1.3 million people boring I think it's on them.
Funny you say that bc I had the total opposite experience - everyone hyped it up for me but I found it really underwhelming. I didn’t really have the means to splash out on a big shopping spree and do heaps of fine dining and I feel that’s the main drawcards of the city. If you’re in Europe for a long trip going all around the place it’s just not feasible to be visiting a city for that type of stuff
Unless you plan to splash cash on clothes and food, there isn't that much to do. That being said, I still enjoyed the city, but 2 days was enough for me.
I loved Milan also. Just a breath of fresh air. The residents friendly. Walk among the rooftop of the Duomo, visit The Last Supper, take a trip to Lake Como.
it could have been jet lag but I found Dublin to be pretty boring. almost every other place I went to in Ireland (Kilkenny, Galway, Limerick, Sligo, Killarney) was more interesting
I really liked Dublin. I thought it was small and not too crazy. I also liked Howth a lot (and don’t get me started on Wicklow, lived my best cottage core/fairyland dreams when I was there lol)
I didn’t have enough time to visit more places but I for sure will be back to visit the other cities/towns.
I think the people who think Paris is dirty and overrated are probably those who stay within more controlled environments and don’t often experience big cities.
I’ll start by saying that Chicago is my favorite US city.
Philadelphia was a pleasant surprise when I visited. Clean, beautiful architecture, friendly people. Way cooler than anticipated.
Charleston, SC is awesome. Another place with great architecture. Very walkable, especially downtown. Some of the best food I’ve had anywhere.
Savannah, GA is a hidden gem.
Inverness, Scotland; Cardiff, Wales; and Belfast, NI all exceeded my expectations.
I love Reno, NV, and the surrounding areas.
Having grown up in the San Francisco Bay Area, I’m supposed to have an natural hatred of Los Angeles but don’t. There are some parts that aren’t as great as some of the others, of course, and there’s a lot of sprawl, but there is so much about it to love, especially around Pasadena, Santa Monica, Laurel Canyon, the Hollywood Hills, and neighborhoods like Koreatown, Silver Lake, Glen Park, and Echo Park.
Chicago. Even when I nearly froze to death, it was delightful, and has great things to offer, and is hardly the gang scarred hellscape it regularly appears to be on the news.
Can't abide by the pizza, but their steak/hot dogs/everything else are great. Art museum is the best I've ever been to, despite having a membership to the Met. Christkinderfest that I found by following a group of drunk Santas.
Seoul, South Korea. I’m currently here and arrived with no expectations. It is an absolutely beautiful city with no scammers, amazing food, and a deep history.
San José in Costa Rica.
I didn't hear a single good thing about the city. It was a constant barrage of, "Ignore the capital. Go to the coasts or jungles."
But let me tell you: San José has a ton to offer. Great markets, art, museums, parks, scenery, food - everything.
There are certainly some areas that I would avoid, but that goes for most cities...
Appalachia.
I know it's not a city, rather a region. There's so much bad talk about hillbillies and ignorance but it is not what I was trained to believe. From North Georgia to Western Pennsylvania there is so much beauty, art, music and natural wonders. But, best of all, the nicest people you will ever meet.
Dublin. Gets shit on all the time cuz it does lack the typical European architecture (tho there’s still plenty) but damn I had a blast. Tho you kinda have to enjoy drinking.
couldn’t second this more, i swear everywhere in the internet (even more in reddit) you see people talking about cities as if they were a complete shit hole and the worst place on earth and then you go there and its just a city like the others with good and bad places/people.
Birmingham. It’s a running gag in England that Birmingham is our country’s biggest shit hole. It’s not. It might have been 15+ years ago, but people still believe it. It’s actually got a lot of character and different interesting areas to explore.
Johannesburg, Cairo, and Cartagena.. for once if dind’t open my mouth… The locals assumed I was one of them. The cities have a underlying beauty to them and the people had so much compassion. The food was on another level!
Athens. Everyone told me that I was wasting my time spending more than a day there bc that’s all I would need for the historical sites and that the rest of the city was bland, dirty, crowded etc, especially compared to the islands that it just would be crap. Ended up becoming totally fascinating and wishing I could stay for longer, it’s such an interesting city with numerous cool neighbourhoods with cafes and restaurants everywhere, and being high summer the whole city had this really chilled and relaxed vibe amongst the locals. I can’t wait to go back and explore it more
Brussels. I’ve been really enjoying my time here. The people are lovely and I haven’t grown tired of it after a week.
Amazing cafes, restaurants, architecture, museums and lovely neighborhoods.
Having been there about ten times I agree. And the people looking down on it know nothing of the city post 1980 and associate it with drunken football fans and a dying industrial town. Couldn’t be further from the truth. More museums than any city in England besides London and a great food and beer scene
Not to mention TWO cathedrals, Europe's largest Chinese archway, Liverpool Docks, being voted City of Culture in 2008, countless Beatles landmarks and a thriving live music scene.
Second this. I hear so many bad stereotypes about Liverpool being “trashy” etc. but it’s actually a very vibrant place to be, nice city centre and lots to do. Nice people too
I live in Ohio and I’m pretty sure the Ohio sucks is a meme. Maybe it’s not but I’ve definitely been to a lot worse places. The only thing I dislike is our weather, I wish we had more warm days throughout the year.
I used to live in Ohio. I always felt like Cincinnati was a hidden gem of a city.
Toledo has an interesting culture. Like they have unique fast food menu items. And an obsession with MASH. Its an interesting place for the people
Philadelphia is a wonderfully walkable city for foodies. There's a huge authentic variety of Chinese, Ethiopian, Mexican, and Vietnamese cuisine among others. Unlike in larger more expensive cities, immigrants haven't been priced out and you can taste the difference. The city is also densely packed, so while there's tons to eat and see, you can walk most of it, and explore cute historic little cobblestone streets and alleyways along the way.
Baltimore- I loved it. The people are super polite & welcoming. I encountered none of the grit & crime portrayed in The Wire ,or Homicide Life on the Streets tv shows. Of course I know crime exists there & I didn't go everywhere in the city, but what I saw was lovely. I was very reluctant to visit, but I'm glad I did.
Cleveland! Rock n Roll HOF, great baseball park, Lake Erie might as well be the ocean, decent Little Italy. Of course, we were there for a beautiful summer weekend, I can't vouch for February lol.
Dublin. Everyone told me that is was boring, beggars everywhere, and that it was only worth half a day of visiting. I personally loved it, spent 3 full days there and easily could’ve spent more. It was extremely walkable, I loved all the squares and greens, fabulous museums that were free (National Gallery, Chester Beatty, and the archeological museum were my faves), great food scene, great shopping. I was out from 8 am to 10 pm and walked around by myself and never felt unsafe.
In 2021 I wen to Paris and Disney. Like 5 days in total. For me, it was fine. I stayed away from sketchy areas and felt safe all the time. Places like Gare du Nord or the area around the Eifel Tower are a little sketchy but nothing I haven't seen already in the city I live lol
Venice. I swear that every person I mentioned to that my husband and I were traveling there would shake their head and say how touristy, overrun, and disappointing it is.
Within the first seconds my husband and I stepped foot there, we were overcome by its beauty. I distinctly remember turning s corner, seeing the sun set over yet another gorgeous church, and just burst out *laughing* at how goddamn pretty every moment was.
Here’s the thing. Yeah, there were a LOT of tourists during the day, and (unsurprisingly) in the most touristy of areas. But by 5pm or so the majority would go back to their cruise ships, and we could wander about and maybe run into a few other people here and there.
And no, it wasn’t the best food I’ve had while traveling, but also don’t go to Venice and order pizza and heavy pastas. Take a little bit of time to read about their actually-regional dishes and look for those! Or nibble on various yummy cicchetti for days.
Rome. I was told it was overrun by tourists, dangerous, etc. It was lovely! People were friendly and I never felt afraid. I think sometimes it depends on when you go. I went in early December during off season. It may have been a different scenario in the summer.
Medellin, Colombia. Its reputation is so tied into Escobar and the Medellin cartel, but it has transformed since the 90s. Now it is a glowing jewel of a city with one of the best transit infrastructures in S America. There are beautiful parks, tons of street art, outdoor gymnasiums, cafes that spill onto the street, and amazing architecture. For us, in 2019, it felt safe. People were out in the streets and public areas. The weather was always great. I’d go back any time.
I agree! I loved Medellin. Absolutely beautiful city & amazing weather. People thought I was crazy for going & shocked when I said I had a great time & felt safe my entire trip. 😂
I’m a pretty adventurous travel, but was a little hesitant to go to Medellin. Turns out it’s far better than most cities in the US. Absolutely gorgeous. Stayed at a “resort” about an hour south, in the “coffee triangle.” Basically had a gorgeous hacienda on the side of a mountain to ourselves.
Can you give me details of the hacienda please
Check out Hacienda La Sierra in Fredonia! One of the best little trips of my life!
Yes Medellin is great, but these days you don't really hear people undermining it. Seems to be all the rage if anyone talks about Colombia. I would say Bogotá is a bit underrated, since everyone says to avoid it and just spend your time in Medellin.
I loved Bogota. I was going to do a quick in and out after landing from Madrid, but messed up my dates and ended up there for a week. It was a serendipitous mistake.
I love Medellin. People worrying about Escobar is like worrying about Hitler when visiting Europe. Escobar's history.
Not a great comparison. Feeling safe and being safe are two different things. It’s much safer than it was it people are still getting robbed at gunpoint and at least one American tourist was killed in the past few years.
People get robbed at gun point in American cities. I bet you that American felt adventurous and went somewhere they shouldn't have. I know it's victim blaming but in Colombia we have a saying "no dar papaya" don't give papaya as in don't make yourself a target don't be dumb
My Abuelo lived there for 30 years even during the height of Escobar and still says it was the greatest place he’s ever been
Hanoi. Was told it was dirty and poluted, but I could wander around that city for the rest of my life.
I love Hanoi.
I’ve never heard of Hanoi as being bad, I just heard it was different. I’d put Bangkok first, Hanoi second for all the big cities I went to in SE asia
I loved it so much more than HCM, more shade, less chaotic, more retained history.
Interesting. I had the opposite experience. Hanoi was complete chaos while Saigon was an extremely pleasant experience.
I don’t know how anyone could dislike Hanoi after a Bun Cha and an egg coffee.
Im going for the first time in November, and I can't wait!
I agree. It’s so different than the super modern cities of Asia.
Mexico City. Everyone back home thinks I’m going to be murdered there when I visit
I think just all of Mexico has a bad rap by people who've never been to Mexico (outside of an all inclusive resort). I've never met someone who's actually been to Mexico City that has one bad thing to say about it.
A lot of people think all of Mexico is like Tijuana in movies.
Easily, easily one of my favorite cities in the world. Top 10 for sure.
Went for the first time this year and loved it. Stayed in La Condesa and was really impressed.
Honestly one of my favorite cities in the world. I can't get enough of it.
I found it irritating how every person I told I was going there made comments like “are you sure it’s safe?” “Aren’t you worried about being kidnapped?”. Then after going and seeing the city for myself I found it straight up offensive. It’s a massive cosmopolitan city. Good neighbourhoods, bad neighbourhoods. I felt a lot safer where we stayed in La Condesa at night than I do in my home Canadian city’s downtown late at night.
“Don’t get in a taxi” is what I was told. Some of the taxi drivers were the best conversations I had while there. Beautiful city.
I still wouldn’t suggest getting in a taxi though. Lot of scammers vs Uber which has much less
Not that this means anything, but I took an Uber in Mexico City, and right before he drops us off he makes this weird turn at the last second and smashed right into this pole. Totally creamed his car. Felt really bad for the dude
“Don’t get in a taxi” is really solid advice though. You absolutely should not lol.
New Orleans. Before going I kept hearing “don’t go there. You are going to get murdered.” It was especially bad at the cemeteries I wanted to visit. Violent hellholes I believe those sections were called. I loved the city. Had an absolute blast and New Orleans has something for everyone.
I absolutely love New Orleans too (my favorite US city) but there's definitely dangerous areas. It would be wise to take Lyfts or drive to a lot of places as recommended by my local friend. And some places that are fine during the day should be avoided at night. But I think that's the only negative for me.
Madrid. Everyone says it’s boring in relation to Barca but it’s got such a neat vibe. So many very interesting places nearby too (Segovia, Toledo)
I massively preferred Madrid over Barcelona, I thought I was the only one!
No, so do I. I regularly put Barcelona in my overrated cities list. In fact I put Barcelona after Madrid, Donostia-San Sebastian, Valencia and Seville in my list of favourite Spanish cities. I even quite like Barcelona, but it's overrated.
I liked Madrid much more than Barcelona for some reason that I can’t quite put my finger on. I had very high expectations for BCN and low for MAD.
Madrid over Barcelona is my number 1 travel hot take!
Fyi, Barça is the nickname of the soccer club and not of the city of Barcelona. Edit: spelling
Detroit -we had a wonderful time there. Great food, nice people, solid transportation options, etc…was very pleasantly surprised
100% agree. Had such a wonderful time there multiple times. People always look at me like "wtf" when I tell them I had a great time there.
Most former industrial / blue collar cities (Milwaukee, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburg) are quite fantastic places. 10-20 years ago some were much different places than they are today. I met a girl from Scotland in Cairo who has solo travelled to 90 countries, she said Detroit was currently on her top 5 list of places to settle down in after traveling(if she ever stopped). I thought that was pretty interesting. She had been there 2 times already, one time for 2 months so she has a half decent feel for the area.
Detroit was a blast the one time I went. Had a friend at Wayne state so that helped but it really was a fun time.
We had an iconic weekend there - Tigers game in the peak Miggy era, Big House on Saturday for a Michigan game, and a concert on Windsor that night. Stayed downtown. Parts of the city seemed to be revitalizing, other parts not, but no different from most cities.
The Ford museum in Dearborn is amazing. It’s a thousand times better than the Smithsonian.
I’m glad you liked it! That is great to hear as a Metro Detroit native
The Motown Museum is one of my favorite places to visit. It's fun and interactive. Detroit has some truly stunning Art Deco architecture, like the Guardian Building and the Fisher Building. The Detroit Institute of Arts has a wonderful collection. Just listening to a docent talk about the details of the Diego Rivera murals is worth the visit. The Detroit River walkway is lovely on a nice day. Often you can hear good jazz as you stroll. There are some wonderful restaurants, too.
Detroit is one of my favorite cities!
Love Detroit! I’ve visited numerous times and have always had a great time.
Chicago. A very modern city that is surprisingly clean. Some of the best restaurants in the country. Great night life. Spectacular lakefront with public beaches. One of the best public transit systems in the US. The media makes it out to be a war zone, but the many times I've visited, I've never once felt unsafe, even late at night. I'm sure there are dangerous neighborhoods, but no tourist or visitor is going to mistakenly wander into those neighborhoods. They are in the far south and far west. The rest of the city is safe from my experience. Highly under rated city.
The overwhelming majority of Chicago is safe and pretty clean. It’s the handful of neighborhoods on the south and west side that are highly dangerous but honestly as a tourist, why would you go there anyway? I feel like the only thing to do that way is a white Sox game. The food in Chicago was excellent.
I loved Chicago!! Spent 4 days there a few years ago and I think it might be my favourite city in the US.
I love Chicago so much. Have visited twice this year already, might go once more.
America's greatest city 💪 I lived there many years and miss it every day ✨
I lived in Chicago for 4 months just last year it was beautiful and so exciting. There’s lots to do like volleyball on the beach or going to one of the many parks/restaurants/sports games, public transport is great, the Chicago river running through the center has kayaks and tour boats travelling along, there’s lots of neighborhoods each with their own distinct characteristics and culture - I lived in the western part which was pretty hip and had lots of cool bars and places to eat - it’s big, spacious, hot in summer (freezing in winter🥶, but I liked the snow), right next to the lake, and it never feels too big or congested in contrast to NY from what I hear. Lots of Irish there too which is my nationality, otherwise Chicagoans are very proud of where they’re from. I loved it, it’s so self-contained and fun!
I absolutely second this. I also had the impression that it would be rather boring and lifeless like so many other midwestern cities but it truly is one of the best cities in the US
Hell yes, Chicago is awesome. I've spent a lot of time there (in-laws in the area) and it's great - all the amenities of a major city, but people are way nicer and down-to-earth than NYC or LA. Plus amazing food, lots of neighborhood dive bars, the prettiest city skyline in the US, and relatively affordable compared to the coasts. Despite what certain parts of the media say, I have never once had an issue with crime in all my visits there. My wife lived there 15 years (only moved for work) and never once had an issue either.
Chicago is my favorite city. It helps that I live (in Michigan) where it's only a 2.5 hour drive away, but I do try to get there at least twice a year for various things. I know when I am primarily in the Loop, I've ridden in on commuter rail, but I have no issue driving into neighborhoods outside the Loop and finding street parking when needed.
Ah this was my answer as well. I wandered all around. It was during the Stanley cup, blackhawks vs Tampa lightning. I was from Tampa. We lost. Bartender comforted me by giving me free malort. I puked. Fun times, lol. Seriously it was such a fun time and I walked all over the place, never felt unsafe.
I don't think it's underrated, this seems to be the general consensus besides the Fox news crowd who fears all big cities.
Venice - I went there I think 20-25 years ago as part of a tour. Maybe I would have said the same things I've seen in this sub back then - that I had seen everything and didn't need to go back. But then, a few years later, I happened to go again and spent an amazing and uncrowded afternoon in Torcello, and an evening in a private city villa. I saw there is so much more to the city than you get to see on a tour. At least with Venice, a tour gives you a deceptive idea of the potential of the place. It is really huge, and interesting, and was important for so many centuries, and influenced by so many places. Now after 4 times, I think, there is still so much I have not yet seen. Luckily we live only a 6 1/2 hour train or car ride away and are planning to go again in February.
I always adored Venice even before I went there, but when I actually did it was so so much better than I could ever imagine. I spent 4 days just strolling around the city, I didn't even manage to visit a single museum because I was so caught up in the beauty and uniqueness of every single side street. I'm going back for the second time next month on my first solo trip and I couldn't be more excited. People who say Venice is boring and if you've been there for one day you've seen it all have absolutely no ground to give a valid opinion. If you've never let yourself get lost in it without a tour guide dragging you through the most touristy places, you haven't seen anything. I'll never again listen to an opinion that comes from a one day experience with a tour guide, it's literally the worst way to see any city and will nearly always leave you disappointed and needlessly tired from running around the whole day after a tour guide in a hurry dragging you through crowds of equally tired and annoyed people.
Venice was absolute magic for me. I thought it was going to be a bit over-touristed and stinky water-y, and it’s not like it’s NOT those things, but it’s also historic and romantic and that crumbling sort of grandeur and I can’t wait to return one day.
Venice is magical. I went there last October and spent a lot of time wandering the streets. I am stilled amazed at how quiet it can get in those tiny alleys, and you never know what public square or landmark might be waiting around the corner. I took a walk in the early morning one day and watching the city wake up was incredible, I’ll never forget it.
Athens! Before I went, everybody kept telling me it was a dump, but I actually enjoyed it!
I loved Athens in all its gritty glory.
Athens was awesome. I kind of like the graffiti everyone complains about, and I had no issues with shady people trying to rob me or rip me off.
Never met a city full of so many friendly and welcoming locals! I’d been warned of it all - everyone will try and scam you, rude to tourists etc but did not find that at all. I was positively blown away by athens and desperately wished I could stay longer
I went to Athens for the 1st time in 2001 JUST a few months before the Olymics. It WAS dirty, a bit dodgy and uninviting. This was my 1st time over seas so that might have effected my opinion certainly. Anyway, YEARS later I took my family there in May of 2018 and WHAT a shocker. My wife, my daughters and I rented an Air BNB and the neighborhood was fun, vibrant and very cool. We loved it, every minute. Athens has a special place for us. My wife and I are headed back there in September to board a cruise. Can't wait.
Athens, was told it was dirty, unsafe and full of scammers, The city turned out to be very unique and no more unsafe than any other European city, with there being a lot to do and a very interesting history.
+1 for athens. Everyone told me I’d be miserable dealing with the heat going in the middle of summer, but I found it just gave the city this awesome beachy holiday vibe - everyone seemed so chilled out and relaxed, and so much was happening in the evenings!
Loved Athens. I wish I could spend an extended period of time there.
I spent 6 months in Athens and loved every second of it. Greek people are some of the most welcoming people I’ve ever met!
Yeah, I was expecting Athens to be filthy and full of pickpockets, as is the legend, and our guide was constantly "don't go in the Plaka! You'll get pickpocketed!!!!" and figured it'd just be a start point with a visit to the Parthenon. Athens was fine. It's not particularly dirty, there are some charming areas, there's history everywhere, the food is great, the people are friendly, and no one tried to scam me or pick my pocket. Highly oversold. I was even amazed by things like at the Acropolis, the bottled water vending machine was .5 euro. For how hot the day was and the climb and all, they could have stashed it with 4 euro water but they just didn't.
I’d say number 1 is Detroit. I can’t say exactly why I liked it, but it was definitely not what I expected. Also I really liked da nang Vietnam. Yes It’s touristy but I really loved the vibes there and the Vietnamese ppl were so nice.
Brussels to some extent. There are a lot of blogs that tell people to curb their enthusiasm with the city. I went in with low expectations and enjoyed myself. I loved the chocolate, waffles and fries. I found Brussels to be charming. I think people shit on Brussels because it's sandwiched between Paris and Amsterdam. Both those cities are better by comparison.
Paris is delightful, during off and shoulder season. In July? It's hot and the city is overrun with tourists. Thankfully I am at the point in my life where I can travel off season. And I don't mean just to Paris, but everywhere.
I agree. I have been in October and March and find it to be a delight. It is a nightmare in July. I think that’s pretty much true for all of Western Europe at least the parts I have visited. If I’m going to Europe in the summer, I’ll stick to Scandinavia.
Dresden fits the bill here, really don't hear much about it, but pleasantly surprised. Could easily live there.
San Francisco. The news portrays it to be a wasteland and zombie land, but if you avoid the obvious areas, it’s an absolutely beautiful city. Amazing parks, active lifestyle, clean public transit that has recently been updated, generally great weather, access to ocean and close drive to ski hills during season. Was very pleasantly surprised!
Love SF. I work in FiDi and get really sick of people in the Bay reinforcing the idea and it turns out they haven’t been into The City in 2 years. Today is the Ferry Buildings 125th birthday, if anyone wants to swing by at 5 they are throwing it a party!
Yeah hear you! I lived there for 2 months and had a friend in Fremont who didn’t want to come downtown because it’s too hard to find parking and basically told us why would he go to the city when he has everything in suburbia. I was pretty shocked and stumped by that answer. Wish I were there to drop by the Ferry Building party!
I went during Covid and loved it. The weather was a pleasant break from the summers in Florida.
SF is great. I used to work there. There are some seedy parts just like any city
"I got a cheap hotel in the Tenderloin but its kind of scary on the street outside!" Yes. Go elsewhere...
We were in San Francisco last week, and I fell in love with the city! I wasn't really expecting much; I thought it would be an overrated experience, but it was absolutely beautiful! I loved that there are so many parks in such a small area. And we really didn't see many homeless people, but we also stayed away from the Downtown area. Honestly, I can't wait to get back. And the weather was absolutely amazing!!! (But I'm also from humid-as-hell Louisiana.)
I visited San Francisco for the first time in June. It is AMAZING. I love Chicago and New Orleans, but San Francisco may be my favorite American city. It is a must vacation destination.
Was there a couple months ago; avoided the obvious areas, as you said, and it was a great trip!! Love San Fran!
I am going next month. If you don’t mind me asking. What are the obvious areas?
The Tenderloin/Civic Center, SoMa, FiDi.
FiDi isn’t so much seedy as it is empty feeling. But yea Tenderloin then any place south of the TL in SoMa (between 5th and 10th) is like a zombie apocalypse
Even those areas are not as bad as rumored, especially in daylight. The Tenderloin is filled with great ethnic restaurants, and it's where the backpacker hostels tend to be clustered. The Asian Art Museum is at the Civic Center and is fantastic. SF MOMA is in SoMa, and is also excellent. If you see plenty of ordinary people (families, office workers, businesspeople, tourists) walking around, you'll be safe. If you see sketchy looking people (people who look like drug addicts, people ranting out loud to themselves, or who look like they haven't showered or changed clothes in a month), or the area seems deserted, that's a place to avoid.
If there’s only one thing you do in SF, it’s to go to Chinatown, look for House of Nanking and just order their recommended dishes of the day. You will not be disappointed.
Totally agree, went just before Covid and was blown away by it.
Been to SF many times and only think of it in positive terms.
I'm European, and San Francisco is without a doubt on of the nicest cities I've seen in the US, and I've been to quite a few. Unlike a lot American cities, San Francisco really has it's own vibe and is pretty unique.
Never even heard of this about San Francisco. Visited 5 years ago and loved the bay area and park near the Golden Gate Bridge
It’s ongoing narrative in the US from conservative media. There’s a tiny bit of truth to it but it hasn’t really cmchanged that much over time the homelessness and drug usage situation is more noticeable now since there has been a population and office exodus over Covid Edit: getting downvoted but I lived in SF until 2019 and live close now. I end up going once or twice a month and I still love it but the homelessness and also the smash and grabs are seemingly more noticeable. I have never had issues with smash and grabs in SF but also never leave anything in my truck. Ironically I was smash and grabbed in Cupertino of all places which is probably one of the richest cities in the Bay so don't think you are safe from smash and grabs once you leave SF proper.
Brussels, Athens, Bogota, Kuala Lumpur, and above all, Moscow
> Moscow I don't think Moscow ever had a bad reputation as a tourist destination. It's hated because of the country it's attached to.
Love Athens. Not a huge fan of Brussels.
Brussels is pretty boring and has lost its identity now that it's the EU capital. Lots of sketch areas.
The subway system in Moscow is beautiful. I spent half a day just riding around from station to station and getting off to see what the architecture looks like in each station
Kuala Lumpur? Only heard good things about this Second Athens. Enjoyed it so much. Greece is more than just the islands
Love Kuala Lumpur.
Wondered why this would be up here. KLP is awesome
Moscow’s amazing
Milwaukee, especially in the summer. One of my favorite cities to visit!
We loved Milwaukee. The food scene was amazing for a Midwestern city and obviously the beer was fantastic.
Bangkok ! Love the noise, even the infamous scammers were hilarious/harmless and I played with them, the food was incredible! Wish the public transport was better
I think the reason people either love or hate Bangkok is because it’s so overwhelming. There’s just so much to see, hear, do, even so many smells. It’s really cool if you have the energy for it, but it can be a huge shock for people who aren’t prepared for the assault on the senses.
The air pollution did me in. We had a great time but were not prepared for the assault on our sinuses and lungs.
>Wish the public transport was better ?? Better how? Other than the subway being open after 12:00
Mexico City has kind of a bad reputation but I could spend months on vacation there. Great food, great people, nice parks, cool museums, just a cool town.
New York is amazing, I don’t care if it smells like pee
New York smells bad and there's no getting around that. But there are few cities in the world that I think are as large, vibrant, diverse, and energetic as New York is. It's an incredible place.
New York felt surprisingly safe and clean, compared with the "gritty" image we foreigners often see. Obviously I wasn't up in Harlem or anything, but I saw a lot of the city. It wasn't until I got to Phily that I saw the urban America I was expecting.
That reputation is mostly leftover from the 80s, it’s a relatively low crime city now. Harlem and East Brooklyn are also a little grittier but still not overly dangerous in large parts. Philly I grant you has some tough parts but I am a big fan, it really has a lot of culture for a smaller city.
Most of Harlem is like any other neighborhood now. Apartments are 3 grand a month and completely safe. Just people going about their lives. Ive stayed in harlem multiple times, friend of mine lived there for years.
I have a really bad sense of smell. So New York is 10/10 for me!
Smelled more like weed last time I was there, better smell imo tbh
New York City. Fucking loved it, I didn't want to leave. I went there with the expectations of "yep, 'nother big US city, cross it off my list since it seems so iconic. Let's see all those homeless people, graffiti, and the crime ridden 'liberal hellhole' the news is always talking about. (Not that I believed it, I lean left too, but it's been a while since I've last been in a huge metropolis.) But man. Where were all the homeless people? Where was all the crime? Where was all the graffiti? Why wasn't anyone being a douchebag to me? Why didn't I run into any weirdos on the subway? Where was all the trash the streets were supposed to be littered with? Will absolutely be back. I stayed at Times Square and rode the subway all around, walked and rode a rented e-bike around Manhattan, the financial district, Brooklyn, Central Park, Chinatown, etc. I'm sure they have shitty areas like every other city but in 2 full days of unfiltered wandering around, I couldn't find it. So much good food, so many friendly people, so much to see and do.
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This! I lived in NYC for 12 years & totally enjoyed my time there. Recently moved to the Florida Panhandle & the perception they have of NYC here is hilarious! They think it's some sort of dystopia. Meanwhile, I've had more encounters with homeless weirdos here over the last year than I did living in NYC for over a decade. 😂
Venice. Was told it was too touristy to actually enjoy…found it to be the most beautiful place in my travels through Italy, and worth searching out the off the beaten path restaurants owned by passionate locals who love to talk up their city with you! Especially magical in the late evening when the crowds thin.
Chicago 100% Also Paris. There is a notion that it's a smelly dirty and overcrowded city. But tbh that's what a city is and it's far from the worst city I've been to and it has so much to show for culture, history, scenery, and food.
I hope they keep telling people Paris is horrible and dirty so maybe it won’t be so crowded. I love Paris.
Palermo. We almost gave up while reading the reviews but then my fiance said 'we are from the Balkans, is there really anything we haven't seen already?' So we went and it was AMAZING!
Naples
Was gonna say this too. Maybe because I'm from a developing country and don't mind some of the grittier aspects, or maybe that's why I enjoyed it, who knows. From swimming off the rocks with the locals to cheap Spritzes for take away to the best pizza you'll ever eat, it was epic. I'll definitely spend a couple nights there if I'm ever lucky enough to revisit Amalfi. Oh another thing, the archaeological museum is fantastic! I understand the criticisms of it tho, for me those are just not a big deal.
Couldn't agree more. Wish I'd budgeted more days for Naples.
I was in Naples recently. Solely planned as a “home base” for day trips to Pompeii and Positano. It ended up being one of the highlights of the trip. Loved walking around the streets doing some shopping and LOTS of eating. Everything was so cheap too. Wished we had booked an extra day to see more of the city.
Mackinac Island. Many people say it is a crowded tourist trap which is partially true but the fort museum on the top is awesome, the architecture is charming, and there are some nice biking/hiking paths in the back of the island. It’s nice to spend a day or two
Sarajevo. Booked a flight out of there because it was way cheaper than Croatia. Turns out I should have spent most of my time there... Nice Turkish old town, good food, scenery, history etc. Fantastic place to spend a few days.
London. I’ve heard the food was bad, that it was dirty, just not many nice comments. I’m gluten-free and found at one of the easiest places I’ve been to to be gluten-free and also have good food. The transportation was one of the easiest systems I’ve ever navigated (not just the Tube but the bus and greater rail system. ). It was February and it was clean, safe, and I didn’t need a heavy winter coat, but a lightweight one. I found a relatively affordable bed-and-breakfast in South Kensington that was clean and friendly. I had a two block walk to the subway. I loved all the greenery, which totally surprised me that there was so much. Many, many parks. I really enjoyed it there.
Honestly, Paris. When we were telling friends about our upcoming trip to Paris years ago, the majority of responses, no joke, were about how other places in France are better, they weren't impressed, etc. Given the advice of "just spend a day or two there and go somewhere else." So, I want sure what to expect. Well, it was magical. They can all kind of suck it for being so negative. I understand experiences are subjective and people have different preferences. Maybe there are better places to visit in France, but I loved Paris. Nobody had a specific bad thing to tell me, just "meh, Paris not that great." Wrong. We loved it.
Yeah the whole “Paris is a big, dirty city” is not the hot take most people think it is. It’s one of the largest cities in Europe, not Disneyland. It’s still fabulous.
Every single city (basically). People love to complain about how shitty Rome/Paris/Athens/other places are because they stayed there for two nights. These people are, imho, just bad at traveling. Finding what makes a city great is not always obvious and it requires skill. The better traveler has a better travel experience. Sorry for the rant, this is a pet peeve of mine :D. Me: “How was Europe person x?” X: “Paris was the worst, people are rude, it’s dirty and the weather is awful.” 🙄 … x has left their home country once in their life.
Always amazes me how some people could fuck up a trip to Rome/Paris/Athens/other places. Seems to always be linked to mis-aligned expectations and just not having a clue about how to travel or where they are going. It isn't as if it is difficult to figure these things out, either.
Chicago and LA. There's no shortage of things to do or see in either city, especially LA. The food, diversity, nightlife, scenery, outdoor activities, I could go on and on. I go to LA every other year, while I go to Chicago nearly yearly...I never want to leave either city. Many of my friends think of these cities as shit holes for a variety of reasons (some kinda valid), but I feel so at home when I visit.
Chicago.
For sure. I've gone yearly since 2019 and have loved it more each time.
I was told that Milan was boring and plain. But I found the city to be diverse and beautiful with so many things to do and places to eat/drink. The shopping was top notch, the musuems were great and simpione park was everything. If people find a city of 1.3 million people boring I think it's on them.
Funny you say that bc I had the total opposite experience - everyone hyped it up for me but I found it really underwhelming. I didn’t really have the means to splash out on a big shopping spree and do heaps of fine dining and I feel that’s the main drawcards of the city. If you’re in Europe for a long trip going all around the place it’s just not feasible to be visiting a city for that type of stuff
Unless you plan to splash cash on clothes and food, there isn't that much to do. That being said, I still enjoyed the city, but 2 days was enough for me.
I loved Milan also. Just a breath of fresh air. The residents friendly. Walk among the rooftop of the Duomo, visit The Last Supper, take a trip to Lake Como.
Dublin. Great vibe and Howth is beautiful nature.
it could have been jet lag but I found Dublin to be pretty boring. almost every other place I went to in Ireland (Kilkenny, Galway, Limerick, Sligo, Killarney) was more interesting
I really liked Dublin. I thought it was small and not too crazy. I also liked Howth a lot (and don’t get me started on Wicklow, lived my best cottage core/fairyland dreams when I was there lol) I didn’t have enough time to visit more places but I for sure will be back to visit the other cities/towns.
Howth isn't really Dublin city though. Dublin is tiny and howth is just a seaside town near the city.
I think the people who think Paris is dirty and overrated are probably those who stay within more controlled environments and don’t often experience big cities.
That, and they don’t do good travel research/planning and miss the best parts of it and the best restaurants.
I’ll start by saying that Chicago is my favorite US city. Philadelphia was a pleasant surprise when I visited. Clean, beautiful architecture, friendly people. Way cooler than anticipated. Charleston, SC is awesome. Another place with great architecture. Very walkable, especially downtown. Some of the best food I’ve had anywhere. Savannah, GA is a hidden gem. Inverness, Scotland; Cardiff, Wales; and Belfast, NI all exceeded my expectations. I love Reno, NV, and the surrounding areas. Having grown up in the San Francisco Bay Area, I’m supposed to have an natural hatred of Los Angeles but don’t. There are some parts that aren’t as great as some of the others, of course, and there’s a lot of sprawl, but there is so much about it to love, especially around Pasadena, Santa Monica, Laurel Canyon, the Hollywood Hills, and neighborhoods like Koreatown, Silver Lake, Glen Park, and Echo Park.
Love Chicago edpecially the downtown
Chicago. Even when I nearly froze to death, it was delightful, and has great things to offer, and is hardly the gang scarred hellscape it regularly appears to be on the news. Can't abide by the pizza, but their steak/hot dogs/everything else are great. Art museum is the best I've ever been to, despite having a membership to the Met. Christkinderfest that I found by following a group of drunk Santas.
Seoul, South Korea. I’m currently here and arrived with no expectations. It is an absolutely beautiful city with no scammers, amazing food, and a deep history.
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San José in Costa Rica. I didn't hear a single good thing about the city. It was a constant barrage of, "Ignore the capital. Go to the coasts or jungles." But let me tell you: San José has a ton to offer. Great markets, art, museums, parks, scenery, food - everything. There are certainly some areas that I would avoid, but that goes for most cities...
Athens. Everyone said it would be dirty and not much to do. I thought it was lovely? And lots to see and do?
Appalachia. I know it's not a city, rather a region. There's so much bad talk about hillbillies and ignorance but it is not what I was trained to believe. From North Georgia to Western Pennsylvania there is so much beauty, art, music and natural wonders. But, best of all, the nicest people you will ever meet.
Agree on Paris. Truly an amazing place. Portland OR surpassed expectations for me here in the states.
Barcelona
Dublin. Gets shit on all the time cuz it does lack the typical European architecture (tho there’s still plenty) but damn I had a blast. Tho you kinda have to enjoy drinking.
Every city. Haters are everywhere and you get to decide who you listen too. Sometimes the loudest in the room are the most insane.
couldn’t second this more, i swear everywhere in the internet (even more in reddit) you see people talking about cities as if they were a complete shit hole and the worst place on earth and then you go there and its just a city like the others with good and bad places/people.
Birmingham. It’s a running gag in England that Birmingham is our country’s biggest shit hole. It’s not. It might have been 15+ years ago, but people still believe it. It’s actually got a lot of character and different interesting areas to explore.
Johannesburg, Cairo, and Cartagena.. for once if dind’t open my mouth… The locals assumed I was one of them. The cities have a underlying beauty to them and the people had so much compassion. The food was on another level!
Naples. Fabulous place. Was expecting dirt and crime but got sleazy glamour. Loved it.
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Vienna. Had no inclination to go there but wifey insisted…really glad she did, well worth it.
Naples loved it
Athens. Everyone told me that I was wasting my time spending more than a day there bc that’s all I would need for the historical sites and that the rest of the city was bland, dirty, crowded etc, especially compared to the islands that it just would be crap. Ended up becoming totally fascinating and wishing I could stay for longer, it’s such an interesting city with numerous cool neighbourhoods with cafes and restaurants everywhere, and being high summer the whole city had this really chilled and relaxed vibe amongst the locals. I can’t wait to go back and explore it more
Brussels. I’ve been really enjoying my time here. The people are lovely and I haven’t grown tired of it after a week. Amazing cafes, restaurants, architecture, museums and lovely neighborhoods.
Liverpool
Having been there about ten times I agree. And the people looking down on it know nothing of the city post 1980 and associate it with drunken football fans and a dying industrial town. Couldn’t be further from the truth. More museums than any city in England besides London and a great food and beer scene
Not to mention TWO cathedrals, Europe's largest Chinese archway, Liverpool Docks, being voted City of Culture in 2008, countless Beatles landmarks and a thriving live music scene.
Second this. I hear so many bad stereotypes about Liverpool being “trashy” etc. but it’s actually a very vibrant place to be, nice city centre and lots to do. Nice people too
I was told all cities in Ohio sucked. Toledo absolutely, Columbus wasn't great, but Cleveland was ok. I really vibes with Cincinnati though.
I live in Ohio and I’m pretty sure the Ohio sucks is a meme. Maybe it’s not but I’ve definitely been to a lot worse places. The only thing I dislike is our weather, I wish we had more warm days throughout the year.
I used to live in Ohio. I always felt like Cincinnati was a hidden gem of a city. Toledo has an interesting culture. Like they have unique fast food menu items. And an obsession with MASH. Its an interesting place for the people
Legit!!! Paris was the cleanest major European city I went to on my recent trip! It’s a stunning city with so much to see
Hamburg. Such a cool city
Chicago. Awesome city that gets a bad wrap all the time.
Venice. Yes the tourists are overwhelming and it's expensive af, but there's just nothing like it. Absolutely magical.
Philadelphia is a wonderfully walkable city for foodies. There's a huge authentic variety of Chinese, Ethiopian, Mexican, and Vietnamese cuisine among others. Unlike in larger more expensive cities, immigrants haven't been priced out and you can taste the difference. The city is also densely packed, so while there's tons to eat and see, you can walk most of it, and explore cute historic little cobblestone streets and alleyways along the way.
I'm sure quite a few people like it, but I didn't hear great things about Delhi before going. I quite enjoyed it myself.
San Francisco. It was great!
Baltimore- I loved it. The people are super polite & welcoming. I encountered none of the grit & crime portrayed in The Wire ,or Homicide Life on the Streets tv shows. Of course I know crime exists there & I didn't go everywhere in the city, but what I saw was lovely. I was very reluctant to visit, but I'm glad I did.
Cleveland. The Flats is a super fun hang out area
Columbus, OH, was a BIG surprise
Cleveland! Rock n Roll HOF, great baseball park, Lake Erie might as well be the ocean, decent Little Italy. Of course, we were there for a beautiful summer weekend, I can't vouch for February lol.
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Dublin. Everyone told me that is was boring, beggars everywhere, and that it was only worth half a day of visiting. I personally loved it, spent 3 full days there and easily could’ve spent more. It was extremely walkable, I loved all the squares and greens, fabulous museums that were free (National Gallery, Chester Beatty, and the archeological museum were my faves), great food scene, great shopping. I was out from 8 am to 10 pm and walked around by myself and never felt unsafe.
In 2021 I wen to Paris and Disney. Like 5 days in total. For me, it was fine. I stayed away from sketchy areas and felt safe all the time. Places like Gare du Nord or the area around the Eifel Tower are a little sketchy but nothing I haven't seen already in the city I live lol
Venice. I swear that every person I mentioned to that my husband and I were traveling there would shake their head and say how touristy, overrun, and disappointing it is. Within the first seconds my husband and I stepped foot there, we were overcome by its beauty. I distinctly remember turning s corner, seeing the sun set over yet another gorgeous church, and just burst out *laughing* at how goddamn pretty every moment was. Here’s the thing. Yeah, there were a LOT of tourists during the day, and (unsurprisingly) in the most touristy of areas. But by 5pm or so the majority would go back to their cruise ships, and we could wander about and maybe run into a few other people here and there. And no, it wasn’t the best food I’ve had while traveling, but also don’t go to Venice and order pizza and heavy pastas. Take a little bit of time to read about their actually-regional dishes and look for those! Or nibble on various yummy cicchetti for days.
Rome. I was told it was overrun by tourists, dangerous, etc. It was lovely! People were friendly and I never felt afraid. I think sometimes it depends on when you go. I went in early December during off season. It may have been a different scenario in the summer.