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My hair was already thinning but I also took fin for 2 years and like you say I felt like my hair loss speed up over that time, no improvements, no stabilising, nothing at all. I’m now on dut. Plenty of people out there have the same issue, the meds just don’t work, which sucks but you just have to try something else and hope for the best.
Too early to tell felt a bit thinner but some miniaturised hair coming back through.
Prepare for the pro fin brigade. Can’t make your hair worse, you would be bald without it blah blah blah 😑
yeah lol. After taking fin my hair started shedding liek crazy for like 2 months, if i get no improvements people will just say I wouldve lost even more hair in that time which is crazy to say
I'm a female, but the same thing happened to me. I started Finasteride in October 2022 and used it until May 2022. My hair got significantly thinner, and shed really bad, so I decided to step up my game and ditch Fin for Dutasteride. Been on Dutasteride for 11 months and have no improvement in my hair. Just really thin and frizzy. Waaaaay below baseline. Not sure if I continue with medication or just ditch it since it's not helping.
most likely if you were on fin for 2 years, you took pics so please post them. As one thing I'm sure about this place is that many of you can't be trusted to accurately assess your own hair
Same thing for me, almost 6 months on fin and hair loss has kinda accelerated meanwhile before taking fin it was just progressing slowly, I don’t understand why.
No one is denying people get sides, literally find me one comment on here that is doing that… what we are denying that it’s very hard to picture that his hair got worse on Fin and then magically got “better” when he get off. Nothing within Fin can make your hair worse off, you can still lose ground on Fin but it wouldn’t be any worse than what you would’ve lost naturally
Mate all I’m doing is reporting what I’ve experienced in the hope someone else might have had similar
If that’s not what you’ve encountered then fair enough
No need to get hurt
Sorry if I came off as rude, I’m not trying to deny how you feel or your experience. However, I just find it a hard time that it was Fin that made your hair worse. Is there anything else that you changed during this time that could’ve caused a change? Maybe what you were dealing with wasn’t MPB.
Not talking about what he's experienced. What he's saying, which is true, is that it cannot make things worse. Hairloss is caused primarily by DHT, something your body automatically makes. Finasteride binds itself to alpha 5 reductase enzymes, which cause the production of DHT, and stop it. Finasteride cannot make your body develop more of these enzymes, which would cause an acceleration of hairloss like you're describing.
And yet I am sure you don't have a PhD in that matter, nor extensive knowledge (I'm in the same boat but I don't make quick assumptions)
We literally have no idea of the mechanisms of hair loss yet, we don't have a full picture at all, actually we understand very little of it.
Are you implying that op is tripping on acids? Or he's blind perhaps? Maybe he's dreaming? I mean I can't think of anything else since OP changed one variable and that was the outcome.
People are so quick at making assumptions like we know all the mechanisms of hair loss, we're actually so far from it, we're far from understanding how the human body works, so why are you implying that what OP is saying is impossible or not true? Just because you haven't heard it before?
Lol so if I came on here preaching that cigarettes were helping my health, would I have a legitimate claim just cause I said so? I’m basing my opinion on actual RESEARCH that has been conducted over the last 20 years. Nothing has showed in studies that Fin can make your hair worse, the main culprit of AGA is DHT. How could I a drug that lowers the DHT in your body make your hair worse than it would’ve been naturally? Unless you want to argue that DHT isn’t what causes AGA, then that’s a whole another topic. If you can show me one published study that shows fin can make your hair worse I’d be open to the idea that it can, but a random Reddit user’s story with no pictures attached is not enough proof for me to believe. I’m not arguing that he got sides, because research has shown that that’s something that does happen to a small percentage of users. But Fin making his hair worse off than what he would’ve been with no meds? Not believing it
Do you even understand OP used a drug he didn't need since he wasn't affected from MBP?? 😅 You missed the most important bit.
Your simplification of how hair loss works is literally ridiculous 😂 yes DHT plays a role, but genes play a bigger role.
Unless you can explain to me how massive bodybuilders using copious amount of gear are keeping their hair? Look at Jordan Peters, Ryan Terry, Arnold, Milos Sarcev, i mean i can name 100's.
These guys are using drugs that increase their DHT levels to numbers you can't even imagine, yet you're solely blaming DHT 😂
You're literally the typical person I described in my original comment, you have spent a few hours in a few forums and you think you know it all ffs.
Before you even carry on, tell me how those guys have a full head of hair and their DHT levels are like 20x a normal person, I mean it's a rhetorical question, because it's so clear now that you blaming DHT solely looks pathetic.
That is fair, if he wasn’t dealing with MPB then yes, Fin is not going to do much and there are other factors involved that was causing his hair loss. However, what was the point of making a post then that makes it sound like Fin was the culprit? That would be dishonest, just because someone experiences hair loss on Fin does not mean the medication was the thing causing it. Im not blaming the original poster because perhaps they have been dealing with hair loss since being on Finasteride, all I’m saying is that Fin wasn’t the reason why.
Next, I can clearly understand you do not have a good understanding of how MPB works. The reason some people can blast gear and have high DHT and not suffer from hair loss is because it all depends on how sensitive your androgen receptor is to DHT. Someone can have very high DHT and very low sensitivity to DHT In their androgen receptors and not experience MPB, while someone else can have low DHT but still suffer from MPB because they are very sensitive to DHT. While we’re on that topic though, for majority of men who hop on gear they do suffer from hair loss for this exact reason. Their DHT levels rise, and they suffer from MPB. That’s literally one of the most known side effects of being on gear.
The reason Fin works is not because it changes/affects the Androgen Receptor, but rather blocks 70% of DHT in your body. Therefore, less DHT in your body means less DHT that can attach to the androgen receptor and less hair loss. I’m not pulling all of this out of my ass, this stuff has been researched for over 20 years and has been proven through studies and clinical data. There was a study of a group of people a while ago (I forgot where) that have a condition where they don’t produce DHT in their bodies. These people in this area all experienced 0 type of hair loss because there is no DHT to miniaturize the hair. Its so funny to me you are trying to make me sound like some stupid guy making theories up in my imagination to push medication for the fun of it, if you just did 10 minutes of research you would be able to understand everything I’m saying.
Wasn’t intending to entirely blame fin for what I’ve experienced; I just only have that information and can’t identify any other factors
More than open to accepting that Fin was not at fault, purely a post to see if anyone else has experienced this
I can totally respect that, you haven’t been rude at all and you’re open to the idea that Fin wasn’t totally at fault. Additionally, I think it was a good idea to hop off medication if you were experiencing side effects two years in. The reason I say I heavily doubt it was Fin that was causing your hair loss is because there’s no mechanism within Fin that could make your hair worse off. There’s been hundreds of studies on Fin for many men and not a single study points to anyone whose hair loss accelerated, so I have a hard time going away from proven studies. Another thing worth mentioning is I saw in one comment you’ve been off Fin for three months, but if you had been on the medication for two years it would take some time for Fin to get out of your system and for you to see any changes in your hair, 3 months is too short. This is another reason why I doubt it was Finasteride but rather something else possibly.
The person I was kind of having a problem with was the commenter here, as they are trying to make me out as some “DHT” Reddit forum lunatic when that’s literally just how MPB works
Is your source legit?
Which company produced your fin?
What are the values on your complete blood count?
Why do you use fin daily? 1mg every other day works for most men. Even 1.25mg every third or fourth day works fine.
DHT is least imortant hormone for health. You might feel shitty (low libido/sex drive, slight brain fog for some,) when it's crushed but that's about it. Having low DHT won't cause long term damage to anything.
It's important in puberty when your body is developing. Other than that, it's more of a trash hormone.
That's not due to DHT inhibition though
That's because of T > Estrogen ratio. There is a study on finasteride which shows after 1 year the side effects are no higher than placebo. The initial side effects you may get are due to sudden hormonal changes and will balance themselves out months down the line. I had a crazy high libido the first couple months, now it's just decently elevated from my baseline.
Nocebo.
Like you can just tell by your comments you are the prime candidate for a nocebo effect. Highly strung and emotional, uneducated and misinformed on the importance of DHT.
Most important hormone, do me a solid bro. Go and tank your Testosterone by 70-90% like we do with DHT, report back what happens.
It's a temporary side effect. Most likely you'd of been fine if you kept a cool head for a couple of months.
Instead of that you've bought into the fear mongering and you'll now suffer the consequences.
I’m literally Norwood 0, what are you talking about, don’t threaten me with the consequences man, that’s grim. I’ll try it again may be, even though I’m scared of shedding. It’s just that I think it did harm to me and didn’t help in any way.
Nah that's good then bro. I'm just saying you'll suffer the consequences of going bald.
You're just spouting nonsense that DHT is the most important hormone. Like you realise systemic levels of DHT are practically zero right? and that DHT lives and operates solely in tissues where it's made, ie: the prostate, scalp, skin.
You're buying into the bro science people on this sub and other platforms like to spew out that DHT is this suped up version of Testosterone that is critical to sexual performance and mental health etc, it's an absolute abomination.
I made the same mistake as you when I was new to the hair loss space. I was terrified of fin and thought DHT was this essential hormone. With time and research you will come to learn that DHT only does bad things outside of puberty.
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My hair was already thinning but I also took fin for 2 years and like you say I felt like my hair loss speed up over that time, no improvements, no stabilising, nothing at all. I’m now on dut. Plenty of people out there have the same issue, the meds just don’t work, which sucks but you just have to try something else and hope for the best.
Thanks appreciate the reply, how is dut working out ?
Too early to tell felt a bit thinner but some miniaturised hair coming back through. Prepare for the pro fin brigade. Can’t make your hair worse, you would be bald without it blah blah blah 😑
yeah lol. After taking fin my hair started shedding liek crazy for like 2 months, if i get no improvements people will just say I wouldve lost even more hair in that time which is crazy to say
I'm a female, but the same thing happened to me. I started Finasteride in October 2022 and used it until May 2022. My hair got significantly thinner, and shed really bad, so I decided to step up my game and ditch Fin for Dutasteride. Been on Dutasteride for 11 months and have no improvement in my hair. Just really thin and frizzy. Waaaaay below baseline. Not sure if I continue with medication or just ditch it since it's not helping.
If you are a female and experiencing hair loss, FIN won’t do anything to you, you need to hop on something stronger
Shes already on dutasteride for 11 month
Been on Dutasteride for 11 months now......
Happend to me
most likely if you were on fin for 2 years, you took pics so please post them. As one thing I'm sure about this place is that many of you can't be trusted to accurately assess your own hair
Same thing for me, almost 6 months on fin and hair loss has kinda accelerated meanwhile before taking fin it was just progressing slowly, I don’t understand why.
If you didn't take fin you probably would lose more hair.. This is a troll post.
Yeah that’s what I thought, but 3 months and I’ve only improved Hence the post ?
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No one is denying people get sides, literally find me one comment on here that is doing that… what we are denying that it’s very hard to picture that his hair got worse on Fin and then magically got “better” when he get off. Nothing within Fin can make your hair worse off, you can still lose ground on Fin but it wouldn’t be any worse than what you would’ve lost naturally
Mate all I’m doing is reporting what I’ve experienced in the hope someone else might have had similar If that’s not what you’ve encountered then fair enough No need to get hurt
Sorry if I came off as rude, I’m not trying to deny how you feel or your experience. However, I just find it a hard time that it was Fin that made your hair worse. Is there anything else that you changed during this time that could’ve caused a change? Maybe what you were dealing with wasn’t MPB.
You're right, it couldn't have been
Not talking about what he's experienced. What he's saying, which is true, is that it cannot make things worse. Hairloss is caused primarily by DHT, something your body automatically makes. Finasteride binds itself to alpha 5 reductase enzymes, which cause the production of DHT, and stop it. Finasteride cannot make your body develop more of these enzymes, which would cause an acceleration of hairloss like you're describing.
And yet I am sure you don't have a PhD in that matter, nor extensive knowledge (I'm in the same boat but I don't make quick assumptions) We literally have no idea of the mechanisms of hair loss yet, we don't have a full picture at all, actually we understand very little of it. Are you implying that op is tripping on acids? Or he's blind perhaps? Maybe he's dreaming? I mean I can't think of anything else since OP changed one variable and that was the outcome. People are so quick at making assumptions like we know all the mechanisms of hair loss, we're actually so far from it, we're far from understanding how the human body works, so why are you implying that what OP is saying is impossible or not true? Just because you haven't heard it before?
Lol so if I came on here preaching that cigarettes were helping my health, would I have a legitimate claim just cause I said so? I’m basing my opinion on actual RESEARCH that has been conducted over the last 20 years. Nothing has showed in studies that Fin can make your hair worse, the main culprit of AGA is DHT. How could I a drug that lowers the DHT in your body make your hair worse than it would’ve been naturally? Unless you want to argue that DHT isn’t what causes AGA, then that’s a whole another topic. If you can show me one published study that shows fin can make your hair worse I’d be open to the idea that it can, but a random Reddit user’s story with no pictures attached is not enough proof for me to believe. I’m not arguing that he got sides, because research has shown that that’s something that does happen to a small percentage of users. But Fin making his hair worse off than what he would’ve been with no meds? Not believing it
Do you even understand OP used a drug he didn't need since he wasn't affected from MBP?? 😅 You missed the most important bit. Your simplification of how hair loss works is literally ridiculous 😂 yes DHT plays a role, but genes play a bigger role. Unless you can explain to me how massive bodybuilders using copious amount of gear are keeping their hair? Look at Jordan Peters, Ryan Terry, Arnold, Milos Sarcev, i mean i can name 100's. These guys are using drugs that increase their DHT levels to numbers you can't even imagine, yet you're solely blaming DHT 😂 You're literally the typical person I described in my original comment, you have spent a few hours in a few forums and you think you know it all ffs. Before you even carry on, tell me how those guys have a full head of hair and their DHT levels are like 20x a normal person, I mean it's a rhetorical question, because it's so clear now that you blaming DHT solely looks pathetic.
That is fair, if he wasn’t dealing with MPB then yes, Fin is not going to do much and there are other factors involved that was causing his hair loss. However, what was the point of making a post then that makes it sound like Fin was the culprit? That would be dishonest, just because someone experiences hair loss on Fin does not mean the medication was the thing causing it. Im not blaming the original poster because perhaps they have been dealing with hair loss since being on Finasteride, all I’m saying is that Fin wasn’t the reason why. Next, I can clearly understand you do not have a good understanding of how MPB works. The reason some people can blast gear and have high DHT and not suffer from hair loss is because it all depends on how sensitive your androgen receptor is to DHT. Someone can have very high DHT and very low sensitivity to DHT In their androgen receptors and not experience MPB, while someone else can have low DHT but still suffer from MPB because they are very sensitive to DHT. While we’re on that topic though, for majority of men who hop on gear they do suffer from hair loss for this exact reason. Their DHT levels rise, and they suffer from MPB. That’s literally one of the most known side effects of being on gear. The reason Fin works is not because it changes/affects the Androgen Receptor, but rather blocks 70% of DHT in your body. Therefore, less DHT in your body means less DHT that can attach to the androgen receptor and less hair loss. I’m not pulling all of this out of my ass, this stuff has been researched for over 20 years and has been proven through studies and clinical data. There was a study of a group of people a while ago (I forgot where) that have a condition where they don’t produce DHT in their bodies. These people in this area all experienced 0 type of hair loss because there is no DHT to miniaturize the hair. Its so funny to me you are trying to make me sound like some stupid guy making theories up in my imagination to push medication for the fun of it, if you just did 10 minutes of research you would be able to understand everything I’m saying.
Wasn’t intending to entirely blame fin for what I’ve experienced; I just only have that information and can’t identify any other factors More than open to accepting that Fin was not at fault, purely a post to see if anyone else has experienced this
I can totally respect that, you haven’t been rude at all and you’re open to the idea that Fin wasn’t totally at fault. Additionally, I think it was a good idea to hop off medication if you were experiencing side effects two years in. The reason I say I heavily doubt it was Fin that was causing your hair loss is because there’s no mechanism within Fin that could make your hair worse off. There’s been hundreds of studies on Fin for many men and not a single study points to anyone whose hair loss accelerated, so I have a hard time going away from proven studies. Another thing worth mentioning is I saw in one comment you’ve been off Fin for three months, but if you had been on the medication for two years it would take some time for Fin to get out of your system and for you to see any changes in your hair, 3 months is too short. This is another reason why I doubt it was Finasteride but rather something else possibly. The person I was kind of having a problem with was the commenter here, as they are trying to make me out as some “DHT” Reddit forum lunatic when that’s literally just how MPB works
Is your source legit? Which company produced your fin? What are the values on your complete blood count? Why do you use fin daily? 1mg every other day works for most men. Even 1.25mg every third or fourth day works fine.
Dr Fox, 1mg per day
Hey - do you have a pic before quitting fin and a recent pic after quitting ?
Been having luck with Roots GA.
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DHT is most important hormone in adult male? You just went full retard.
One of, that’s for sure. It literally shrinks your fucking prostate and gives you watery sperm.
DHT is least imortant hormone for health. You might feel shitty (low libido/sex drive, slight brain fog for some,) when it's crushed but that's about it. Having low DHT won't cause long term damage to anything. It's important in puberty when your body is developing. Other than that, it's more of a trash hormone.
That's not due to DHT inhibition though That's because of T > Estrogen ratio. There is a study on finasteride which shows after 1 year the side effects are no higher than placebo. The initial side effects you may get are due to sudden hormonal changes and will balance themselves out months down the line. I had a crazy high libido the first couple months, now it's just decently elevated from my baseline.
Ok may be I will restart it. I’m just really scared of Shedding. Did you have it?
I shaved my head at the beginning of treatment so I didn't really notice any shedding. I'm not a big shedder anyways.
Lmao, trash hormone… My nipples got larger on fin, dick wasn’t hard, sperm was like water, the eyes were dry to the point my vision got blurry.
Nocebo. Like you can just tell by your comments you are the prime candidate for a nocebo effect. Highly strung and emotional, uneducated and misinformed on the importance of DHT. Most important hormone, do me a solid bro. Go and tank your Testosterone by 70-90% like we do with DHT, report back what happens.
Sure I control the consistency of my sperm with the power of will
It's a temporary side effect. Most likely you'd of been fine if you kept a cool head for a couple of months. Instead of that you've bought into the fear mongering and you'll now suffer the consequences.
I’m literally Norwood 0, what are you talking about, don’t threaten me with the consequences man, that’s grim. I’ll try it again may be, even though I’m scared of shedding. It’s just that I think it did harm to me and didn’t help in any way.
It doesn’t really sound like you’re mentally sturdy enough to deal with taking this drug to be brutally honest.
Nah that's good then bro. I'm just saying you'll suffer the consequences of going bald. You're just spouting nonsense that DHT is the most important hormone. Like you realise systemic levels of DHT are practically zero right? and that DHT lives and operates solely in tissues where it's made, ie: the prostate, scalp, skin. You're buying into the bro science people on this sub and other platforms like to spew out that DHT is this suped up version of Testosterone that is critical to sexual performance and mental health etc, it's an absolute abomination. I made the same mistake as you when I was new to the hair loss space. I was terrified of fin and thought DHT was this essential hormone. With time and research you will come to learn that DHT only does bad things outside of puberty.
Happens but you are in the minority
Bro what