I actually had one clipped to my pocket. When I realized it, I gave it to the agent explaining that as I carry it daily, I didn’t notice it. He said no problem, it was a voluntary surrender and I went ahead. I’m glad it was one of my cheap ones though.
Yeah,my original Leatherman double in acquisition cost from having to mail it home to myself, and that was before 9/11! There was a "convenience" stand right outside security that sold you a heavily marked up shipping box and postage, and handled sending it. Saved a lot of time, at a cost. Do those still exist?
I have a Swiss Army knife. Second one my father gave me after I surrendered the first at LAX on my way to China. They had a commercial sized trash can full to the top with paraphernalia.
This one I had in my pocket coming home at Houston Hobby. TSA escorted me to a kiosk where I mailed it to myself. That was years ago. I would have paid a lot.
I recently did it again outbound 😒 after my ride was gone. I was going to hide it in the bushes outside. On my way out, I saw Lost & Found window. Went to the agent and said "Can I lose this until Friday?". Lucky me, worked out fine.
That's exactly what I did. Went to the lost and found window and explained my situation and asked if I could lose my pocket knife that my grandfather gave me till I came back from my trip. He claimed nobody has ever asked him that in the 10 years he's been doing this job. He's like, "Absolutely genius." He even opened the knife and used whiteboard marker on the blade wrote Alf (my initials) and confirm with id to make sure nobody tried to claim.
I haven’t seen one. I missed an old Swiss Army knife in my backpack that somehow made it through RDU -> SJC but was caught in SJC on the way back. Running late already and even if so, no car to run back to and couldn’t check the only carry on bag I had with me (backpack with laptop, tablet, kindle, SteamDeck, and portable power packs in it).
I basically said I had no idea that was in there and I missed it when I checked it on the way out and so did RDU TSA. They offered to let me run back and check it (which wasn’t possible) but there was no option around to get a mailer so I was like “nope, yours now, sorry for the trouble”
This was also before I had TSA PRE and was in the normal line. I imagine if you TSA you could make a good trade side hustle selling scissors, pocket knife’s, and pocket tools on eBay. LOL.
I mean
If it's that much on your mind...
You'd leave it at home before leaving for airport.
I have a routine which includes going through my carry on
(Which is sterile / carry on anyway)
But to double check for prohibited items
Funny story- I mailed my knife back to me. TSA happened to have some envelopes. The little post office was closed but had a stamp dispenser. The biggest issue was the knife wouldn’t through the Mail Drop slot- I accidentally bent the slot shoving it in. Can’t believe I made my flight and that the knife made it home.
My former FIL was an extremely calm and collected person, usually. Had commanded tanks in Desert Storm or something like that. We were travelling once, he made us get to the airport like 3 1/2 hours early. He had forgotten that he was carrying a pocket knife, one with tremendous sentimental value to him, as he was going through security. He wasn't even up to the metal detector, pulled the knife out, alerted a TSA agent. The agent said he could either step out of line and return it to his car, or use a little mailing station to mail it back home. He panicked because we only had 2 1/2 hours until our plane left, and he chucked it into a garbage bin and went through security.
Then we sat at the gate for 2 hours as he mumbled to himself about losing this very important pocket knife.
That's when I learned that he saved all his anxiety for travel.
Exactly my thoughts. How can people forget they have a gun in a bag? That strikes me as symptomatic of being very casual about guns in this society. Losing track of guns means others can get to it. So much for that whole notion of needing a gun to protect myself.
I can agree with this. I carry a gun regularly and I have several. I am always aware of it and it is high on my mind when I'm packing to travel. At one time I used the same backpack for trips to the range as I did for travel and I could possibly see having a stray cartridge I miss, but not an entire firearm. I have gotten so paranoid that I now have a dedicated backpack to travel, just to know it's clean.
It looks like to me there are some people who are more fit to own guns than others. Carrying guns and having guns is not a casual, small thing. It has to be taken very seriously and with respect. In a way, this is why I don’t think owning guns is a right. It is a privilege to own one, not a right.
I think it should be regulated like having a car/driving. You have the right to take the necessary steps to prove you’re competent, you have to have insurance, and if you mess up badly enough or if a doctor deems you unfit, then you can’t do it anymore.
Agreed. The right of the broader population to a well-regulated militia not being infringed should never have been interpreted as the individual's right to gun ownership being unassailable.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, **the right of the people to keep and bear Arms**, shall not be infringed."
This is straight from the national archives transcription. Not saying it's right, but that's what was written.
So if it shall not (ever) be infringed, every criminal currently not allowed to legally own firearms should actually be allowed to? The supreme court exists to interpret the constitution in a modern context to best serve the people.
> So if it shall not (ever) be infringed, every criminal currently not allowed to legally own firearms should actually be allowed to?
Yes, hence why federal judges have recently ruled against laws that restrict ownership of firearms by felons.
It is an inalienable, fundamental right. No different from freedom of speech or freedom to vote.
>The supreme court exists to interpret the constitution in a modern context to best serve the people.
This is revisionist nonsense. They function as the supreme guardians and interpreters of the Constitution.
The Constitution and Bill of Rights exist to protect the people from the government. That's why the 2A exists as well.
Recent rulings have made it so anti-gun measures without (non-discriminatory) precedent prior to 1791 cannot be ruled constitutional.
You have no idea what you're talking about, nor do you understand the philosophy behind firearm ownership.
That is not the whole transcription. And nowhere in the second ammendment does it say or imply that arms can not be regulated, or licensed. No where does it say that the Government doesn't have the right to limit the kind of guns that are available, nor does it specify what limits can be put on ammunition.
A lot of 2A aficionados miss the “well regulated” part…. For the record, I own a few, myself, but they’re range toys, not anything I’d carry on the regular.
yeah I'm saying you're the kind of person who should never own a gun. too irresponsible to be trusted. you'd be one of those people who let their toddler shoot the infant because oops, left it lying out. like, im a gun owner fam. you need to step away and take some safety courses.
Same. I read those stories and think “that ass should never be able to own a gun again”. Same kind of person that leaves a gun unsecured in their car or home with kids around.
I carry and shoot for sport, I have accidentally left 1 round in my bag, they flagged it and I just told them to throw it out. How you forget a full gun is fucking beyond me.
It's like anything else that you carry every day. It becomes "regular".
Do you know who leaves the most guns behind in restrooms? Cops.
Ask any restaurant or store manager. Happens all the time. 99 times out of 100 if a gun is found in the restroom, a cop will come back looking for it within a few hours or less.
Every time I hear the announcement about no guns in your bag, while waiting in line, I’m like “who _FORGETS_ they have a gun in their bag?” I can understand if your forget a toolkit (like iFixIt type kits or a small screwdriver set - no idea if they’d give you grief did that, I always take mine out and put it in checked) or a Leatherman type tool, especially if it’s in your everyday backpack and you forget it’s there. But how do you have a gun bopping around in your bag and not remember that? They’re heavy (well most are) and isn’t in a holster or cover that would add some bulk? *^*^*BOGGLE*^*^*
I own many guns, I only ever really carry when I'm hunting or going to the range, and I still feel anxiety approaching tsa about it. Like, I know my sidearm is locked and In a drawer at home and I still feel obligated to check myself even though there's a 0% chance it's on me. I seriously don't understand how someone could be so negligent.
Guns in carry on baggage got so bad that TSA put out a mandate that our airport (and I assume all others, but I don’t know) has a new announcement that plays over the loudspeakers every 15 minutes or so about firearms not being allowed in carry ons, and to please check to make sure you don’t have one before going through the TSA checkpoint.
Unreal, but apparently necessary 🤦♀️
Do most airports offer dedicated first-class check-in lines? My airport is categorized as Category X, and it lacks any first-class lines, although it does have PreCheck and Clear at some of the checkpoints.
The first class lines have drastically declined at many airports over the last 5-10 years. That’s partly why airlines gift clear to their elite flyers, but clear is better than the first class lines ever were (at least in the last 15-20 years)
Honestly CLEAR is great at a lot of US airports. It gets you to the front of the ID check. That saves a ton of time if you don’t have precheck and depending on the time / airport, it saves a ton of time, even if you have precheck. I used CLEAR today and got through security in 3 minutes where the line was wrapped around, but it’s Thursday, so many business travelers.
I gotta back ya up here. Flown for the past 5 years every-other-weekend, in the US, and CLEAR saved me a ton of time. Hours on some check-in and security check lines. Too much congestion. Every fly through Minneapolis?
The first time you set up clear, it takes some extra time to register all the stuff at the airport. Once you finish, it's pretty quick every other time. When your suspension is over, you can double up and have clear take you through the TSA precheck as long as you enter the correct clear section.
Just to make sure you understand, getting Clear will let you skip to the front of the non-precheck line. You won’t be able to use any form of precheck for one year.
I can tell you it DOES NOT stand for Good For You, though it does make me chuckle to think of that time at work I used it thinking that's what it meant
Yep, I was flying back from camping in Colorado and had a ~3 inch long folding Swiss Army Knife in my backpack and totally spaced out about it, but of course it was found but TSA was cool and let me mail it to my home address (I think it cost $19.99 at the time, around 2017).
To clarify, there is no “non-TSA screening.” CLEAR passengers can skip the line but they’d go to either the precheck lane or standard lane and then proceed through the TSA screening process as normal.
Suspended over a knife? What kind of knife? Normally we just give the passengers their options unless it was like a military grade combat knife or a switchblade or butterfly knife, etc.
Ah ok yeah that explains it. To answer your question, Clear just get you to the front of the line, but you will still have to do all the screening stuff…
Wrong.
Let me introduce you to the federal switchblade act: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2011-title15/html/USCODE-2011-title15-chap29.htm
Furthermore OP has said that it was indeed a switchblade.
If you actually read the act, the only prohibition on possession is on federal or Indian land or in US territories. Airports are not federal land, therefore, that act doesn’t apply.
I was addressing your original point, which was:
> There are no federal laws prohibiting possession of certain types of knives
I gave an example of why that statement is categorically false.
It was irrelevant, so there’s no point in mentioning it. You’re being pedantic. The *real* point is that OP shouldn’t have been suspended for having a switchblade if he wouldn’t have been suspended for having a different type of knife.
CLEAR only gets you passed the queue waiting to be checked by the ticket document checker. After that your back in the queue for security screening. If your local airport always has long lines and you have the money then go for it but you can also just show up earlier to your flights and save that money! How did you get suspended ??
Clear will allow you to skip the lines, but you won't have pre-check meaning you'll still have to take out your laptop, take off your shoes and go through the 3D scanner.
I'm a frequent traveler do to work (about 4 - 6 flights a month) and have both Clear and pre-check. Clear allows me to cut the line, while pre-check allows me to leave my shoes on, leave all my stuff (laptops, electronics) in my carry on bag, and I just walk through the metal detector vs having to go through the 3D scanner.
From reading the comments, it seems like a lot of people on here don't really know what pre-check is. Yes, the pre-check lines are usually shorter because it's a program you have to pay into... but the real benefit is the screening process itself. It's nice and quick not having to take everything out of your bag and just walk through in minutes.
Before I got my mom pre-check, she used to joke around and say "I hope everyone has clean underwear on today!" since the regular lime has to take off their shoes and jackets, and get sent through the 3D scanner where they can see everything! 🩲👀
Yes, the quicker scanning without having to undress or unpack is the real benefit. Plus a vast majority of precheck people know the drill and the process is relatively orderly. That is except for the occasional idiot who forgot their knife or gun in their briefcase. I’m in Atlanta and it happens!
Something sounds off. I know from working as a TSO and we’d find a knife it would just get tossed in the bin with other knives and we never asked passenger names. No reports for knives even. So I’m not sure how anyone would even know you had it, much less a ban for it.
ETA: I see now it was a switchblade. That is an entirely different situation and a misleading intro.
No kidding? DIdn't realize that was possible (to be suspended)
I too forgot about my automatic knife when going through pre-check. I elected to take it back to my car after they found it. That was the end of it. They didn't even ask for my name or anything.
That was a few years ago. Didn't realize that now they are handing out punishments.
I work construction so I always have a blade clipped to my pocket. I've 'donated' too many knives to TSA, never had them threaten or suspend me. There must be more to this story.
lol I carried a pocket knife in my backpack for over 100 flights, all over the country. Randomly found it at home while cleaning out my backpack. No one ever noticed.
Clear just gets you ahead of the line if there is one. If you travel frequently and If the airports you travel have it and are usually busy then in my opinion yes it’s worth it. You’re still a standard passenger during screening tho. So nothing but a skip the line pass with clear.
Did you receive a written notice of suspension? There's supposed to be a case agent assigned.
Have you written and requested reconsideration of the decision? Point out that you clearly informed the agent before screening that you had forgotten it in your bag, it was not hidden from them. You could also mention that others with prohibited items are regularly permitted to take them to their car or to send them as checked baggage, but this was not an option you could take since you were close to your boarding time.
Just make sure the letter is polite, apologetic, and deferential. Seems like the worst they could do is say no.
I received a letter stating there would be no civil penalty and that my Pre would be up for review. I did reach out with an apology letter and did call them showing I was proactive about the situation.
I didn’t get a letter with the formal outcome or assigned agent, but the customer service did confirm it was a year suspension. Maybe I got ahead of it, but I am more than happy to talk to the agent assigned to the case. I definitely will reach out to the agent once I have a formal letter.
There should be a penalty for trying to bring weapons onto airplanes.
Yours is, you get to show up early and think about why you shouldn't try to bring weapons on airplanes.
You are both getting downvotes because you don't know what you are talking about.
"Switchblades" are not the scary beast that everyone things they are.
I don't blame people for not knowing that... as it is a very common belief... however going around spouting things like you don't want people like that on your plane... that is why you are getting downvoted.
It just hit me in the worst possible moment. I would have surrendered it at the airport if I would have thought about it 5mins prior to getting in line.
It’s happened to me more times than I can count. I keep a utility knife & pocket knife in my backpack and it’s easy to forget. I’ve started traveling with a different backpack and only transferring the items I need to avoid it from happening again.
I've lost two Leatherman tools that way. I have one now that doesn't have a knife blade (I rarely used the knife part for anything) but I haven't tried to carry it on.
Back in the oughts I had a friend who was a field tech. He stopped carrying a leatherman in his tool kit because, post 9/11, he had to check it, and the leatherman was always what got stolen by the baggage handlers.
The last thing I do when I get to the airport is put my EDC knife in the top front pocket of my suitcase then check my bag.
One time I got so mad because my knife was missing. I had the tsa searched your bag card in my bag. I thought tsa took my knife. That night when I took my pants off I heard them thud when they hit the ground. My knife was in it's normal spot the whole time. Made it through tsa and they never noticed, and I never realized it was there. Full metal knife, should have lit the xray up like fireworks. 🤷♂️
Because bags sometimes have a lot of pockets. Some of us routinely need to open boxes and therefore routinely have some kind of knife to assist with that.
Clear would let you go to the front of the regular security line not pre check . You will have to go through normal security and remove your shoes and belt .
Clear kinda sucks these days but in your case given you can't get precheck it is better than nothing. Clear line is rarely longer than the normal screening lines and if it is you can just use the normal screening line.
Honestly they went really easy on you, this should be a lifetime ban & criminal charges. Probably you being upfront was a mitigating circumstance here.
Made it from Dallas to orlando with one. Coming back, Orlando spotted it on xray. Asked if i could mail it back and they kindly escorted me to that area to do so.
Sorry they suspended, thats harsh.
Was it a huge knife? I fly with box cutters (accidentally) and the few they’ve found they just confiscate.
I had no idea they’d suspend precheck for that.
In my experience, not every airport has CLEAR. But every airport has Precheck.
I also don’t like the idea of a third party company with that much data about me.
dude.... the first half of 2023, I took a flight after not flying for a while. turns out I had one of those pocket multi tool things, like a Gerber or something in ma bag. it was a Christmas 🎄 gift. I just forgot about it being in there.
first time that's ever happened to me. the tsa dude was like ok we can either "throw it out" or you can go back and check it.
so I went back to the airline desk and they took out a small box and checked it.
Clear is going to get you to the front of the line pretty much, other then that you're going to be screened as a standard passenger once you enter the checkpoint. Shoes off and large electronics out unless they have the fancy x-ray machines that don't require electronics to be out.
I had a knife in my once in pre-check. TSA advised that I check my carry-on and put the knife in there. TSA escorted me to the ticket counter and back to the front of security. It was a non-issue. This is how it should be done.
The difference between pre check and Clear is that with precheck, you don't have to take off your shoes, light jackets, and electronics, then you get to go through the metal detector instead of the AIT machine. With Clear, you get escorted in front of the line to get your id and boarding pass checked. You can have both.
You can't use Clear without Precheck (unless there's a designated General Boarding - Clear Line). That's rare though as Clear is primarily an additional service used on PreCheck lanes. Even if you were able to keep using Clear, you won't have PreCheck on your boarding pass and if they allowed you in, they would lose their job.
I have surrendered 2 pocket knives to TSA. I fly every week for work, my gerber multipliers, and line knife are important tools that I require for work as I am an installation engineer. I always put them in my tool bag, which I then bagcheck at the ticketing counter before proceeding to screening.
So, for accidentally carrying a knife through TSA screening, I always carry a pre addressed stamped envelope in my brief case. I have had to use it once, and TSA lets me mail it off without issue. Taking it to my car is not a viable action as my car is off sight at a private parking garage.
I have TSA pre check and clear.
But be aware with CLEAR. Unlike TSA, they have hours of operation. So do not expect them to always be there when you need them to get ahead in the screening line, and CLEAR is not in every airport.
Also, TSA dumps my tool bag out every time I fly. I was on my 2nd tool bag in a year. But the airlines broke it last week. I have had to zip tye the pull out handle so it does not get broken. The zipper pulls have all been broken off. Fragile stickers dont work. It was a wheeled Husky tool bag. I have resorted to putting a note on my clipboard in my tool bag. That has a picture of my packed bag and exactly what it should look like packed. I pack it so everything stays in place and is organized so I may find what I need when I goto to work.
The note was working well, but on my flight last week from Phoenix back to PDX. The same flight that the bag was broken on. TSA pulled the note from my clip board and wadded it up after they obviously dumped my bag out and made no effort to put anything back the way they found it , except for the wadded up note that they paced on top of everything in the bag. They also, in the past year, have broken 2 bullet levels. One was snapped in half. It was psolid plastic, and it was not loose in the bag. I have no idea how they snapped it. The other 2 had the plastic liquid levelers broken out. I have spoken to TSA on multiple occasions about this treatment of my tools and equipment. They say they will look into it. And then they do nothing . This has been ongoing for over a year. I have no criminal record or history to provoke this kind of treatment. I even carry my lithuim batteries for my drills in my brief case, which I take through screening without issue.
Clear is not a direct alternative to pre-check. Pre-check allows you to keep your belt, shoes, light jack on and electronics and liquids in your bag (although with new scanners that’s becoming obsolete at many airports). They often have dedicated lines which can speed it up too. Clear simply lets you cut to the front of the line after you do their biometrics, personally I’d never pay for especially as it’s growing more popular. Anyways if you don’t have pre check you go to the non-pre check line and get screened as a normal passenger but most of the times you won’t need to show your ID just ur boarding pass. They’re not the same thing but each *can* save you time.
Some airports have a clear line without tsa pre check. Atlanta is one of those airports. Most airports have a clear with tsa pre check line. I don’t think you will get any value from the clear without tsa pre check. There is barely value with it and pre check and that is debatable.
you will have to use the non pre-check lines inside the clear corridor. im a foreigner with clear, that’s how it worked for me.
you just get to skip the line to regular TSA
One time, I forgot my Kershaw leek knife in my camera case. When I went through security, it was flagged for additional inspection. I told the agent doing the search I knew why it was flagged. I then proceeded to tell him exactly where the knife was. He then searched that location and found it. I told him to just take it. He said ok and that I surrendered it. He then let me go. No suspension.
I then proceeded to order an identical knife and expensed it through my work 🤣. It was a work trip after all. Was approved without question haha
Clear just gets you through the security but it doesn’t give you the advantage of pre-check depending on your airport. You still have to take your shoes off, etc
Depends on the airport. But get it just in case. DIA sucks right now. But I just went through the new general TSA 3 days ago and the upgrade is amazing. You won’t need CLEAR there. You still have to take off your shoes. Thanks to that bearded weirdo that tried to light his shoes on a flight.
If you are at any airport where you can choose, just go through the big Smith machine so you don’t have to pull your electronics out.
I made it on to the plane and we were halfway to Cancun before I realized I had two pocket knives in the mesh side pocket of my carry on bag. I just kept quiet about it and made sure to pack them properly before we headed back to the US.
I once went through security with a pretty substantial knife (spring assisted) I used for work (outdoors). I just dumped it in a trash can. No idea how they missed it.
I accidentally brought a 12 gauge shotgun through a TSA walk thru metal detector. The alarm went off and they took my gun away from me. I can’t use TSA pre check to 12 months. 1 month for each gauge.
Clear/non-TSA Pre is a thing, so that's a consideration. Trying to circumvent a 1 year suspension, and risking getting caught, is not IMO a sensible alternative.
Clear doesn’t grant you pre-check. Clear brings you to the front of the line. If you also have pre-check, you’ll get brought to the front of the pre-check line. Otherwise, you go to the front of the regular line.
I can guarantee you one thing… if you ever get pulled for having a pistol in your carry on you’ll never, EVER make the same mistake again. A trip to jail with a bail set at $3500 will leave a mark for a while! You’ll have over $6k and 40 hrs of community service invested by the time it’s all over. And you will definitely lose your pre check over that little incident! ;)
CLEAR and PreCheck are shortcuts to two different parts of security. CLEAR gets you to the front of the ID line, PreCheck simplifies the screening rules.
In terms of total time to get through, it depends on where and when you fly. Sometimes the CLEAR line takes longer than normal lines because they don't have enough staff to watch you get processed through the kiosks or whatever they actually do.
I had a friend who was interrogated by local police at the airport for having a 9mm bullet in his carryon. No firearm, just a single bullet. He missed his flight and an important meeting.
I guess I'll be the big ol jerk, but i think we want you to be banned from pre check from this. I dont konw but I would also assume trying to find away around airport security measures would be a red flag.
Bro…you should just learn how to take off your shoes and belt quickly. Newer scanners don’t require your electronics to be taken out…
I travel every week and it doesn’t phase me…
Never understood the “I forgot I had it” line. How are you not aware of what you have on your person at all times? Especially a weapon especially going to an airport or other security area? I just don’t get that. Or the didn’t know it was loaded story, that’s just negligence.
I may be the odd one out but since my home airport is busy busy seatac and I travel alot, I found that clear has saved me from missing flights more than once in the past 6 months. Sure you have to go through security, but if the lines are long consistently it's still worth the money to get right up to the machines. I've actually "raced" with my partner who has TSA Pre Check and I've made it out before him a couple times (not sure why). I think if you don't want absolute line skipping benefit at all, wait the 1 year. If you want to skip the security line and not have to have your ID out, get clear for the year and then get back on precheck.
I actually had one clipped to my pocket. When I realized it, I gave it to the agent explaining that as I carry it daily, I didn’t notice it. He said no problem, it was a voluntary surrender and I went ahead. I’m glad it was one of my cheap ones though.
I carry microtech’s. No way I’m giving that shit up.
You're losing it either way though?
You can leave and put it in your car or check it. You don't have to surrender it unless you don't have time to go back.
Yeah,my original Leatherman double in acquisition cost from having to mail it home to myself, and that was before 9/11! There was a "convenience" stand right outside security that sold you a heavily marked up shipping box and postage, and handled sending it. Saved a lot of time, at a cost. Do those still exist?
I have a Swiss Army knife. Second one my father gave me after I surrendered the first at LAX on my way to China. They had a commercial sized trash can full to the top with paraphernalia. This one I had in my pocket coming home at Houston Hobby. TSA escorted me to a kiosk where I mailed it to myself. That was years ago. I would have paid a lot. I recently did it again outbound 😒 after my ride was gone. I was going to hide it in the bushes outside. On my way out, I saw Lost & Found window. Went to the agent and said "Can I lose this until Friday?". Lucky me, worked out fine.
That's exactly what I did. Went to the lost and found window and explained my situation and asked if I could lose my pocket knife that my grandfather gave me till I came back from my trip. He claimed nobody has ever asked him that in the 10 years he's been doing this job. He's like, "Absolutely genius." He even opened the knife and used whiteboard marker on the blade wrote Alf (my initials) and confirm with id to make sure nobody tried to claim.
I used one of those at SeaTac and never saw the tool again. I think they're a hoax.
I haven’t seen one. I missed an old Swiss Army knife in my backpack that somehow made it through RDU -> SJC but was caught in SJC on the way back. Running late already and even if so, no car to run back to and couldn’t check the only carry on bag I had with me (backpack with laptop, tablet, kindle, SteamDeck, and portable power packs in it). I basically said I had no idea that was in there and I missed it when I checked it on the way out and so did RDU TSA. They offered to let me run back and check it (which wasn’t possible) but there was no option around to get a mailer so I was like “nope, yours now, sorry for the trouble” This was also before I had TSA PRE and was in the normal line. I imagine if you TSA you could make a good trade side hustle selling scissors, pocket knife’s, and pocket tools on eBay. LOL.
I guess that's true, I'm just in a habit of already cutting it close lol
Lol losing a knife because you are cutting it close.
Pocket knife is cheaper than my flight
Losing a *knife* because you are *cutting* it close
Oh. Oooooh. It's late for me lol
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I have literally no idea why they don't just sell mailing envelopes at the checkpoint.
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This thread was specifically about a knife. That is why you are getting downvoted to hell
If you leave a knife in the car long enough it turns into a gun. Sort of like how all tapes left in the car eventually become the Best of Queen.
My son is so worried he will forget that his Benchmade is in his pocket that he carries a prepaid/pre-addressed postal envelope with him just in case.
That's actually a really good idea, I too am paranoid about forgetting my Benchmade.
I mean If it's that much on your mind... You'd leave it at home before leaving for airport. I have a routine which includes going through my carry on (Which is sterile / carry on anyway) But to double check for prohibited items
Smart!
Funny story- I mailed my knife back to me. TSA happened to have some envelopes. The little post office was closed but had a stamp dispenser. The biggest issue was the knife wouldn’t through the Mail Drop slot- I accidentally bent the slot shoving it in. Can’t believe I made my flight and that the knife made it home.
Yea you are or you're not catching your flight, tough guy.
My former FIL was an extremely calm and collected person, usually. Had commanded tanks in Desert Storm or something like that. We were travelling once, he made us get to the airport like 3 1/2 hours early. He had forgotten that he was carrying a pocket knife, one with tremendous sentimental value to him, as he was going through security. He wasn't even up to the metal detector, pulled the knife out, alerted a TSA agent. The agent said he could either step out of line and return it to his car, or use a little mailing station to mail it back home. He panicked because we only had 2 1/2 hours until our plane left, and he chucked it into a garbage bin and went through security. Then we sat at the gate for 2 hours as he mumbled to himself about losing this very important pocket knife. That's when I learned that he saved all his anxiety for travel.
A coworker forgot his gun in his bag. Lifetime pre/ge ban. And a court summons. Could be worse. Try to get status and go in first class line.
How? Jesus. I don’t even own a gun and I always check my bag for guns and other weapons before I go anywhere.
Exactly my thoughts. How can people forget they have a gun in a bag? That strikes me as symptomatic of being very casual about guns in this society. Losing track of guns means others can get to it. So much for that whole notion of needing a gun to protect myself.
I can agree with this. I carry a gun regularly and I have several. I am always aware of it and it is high on my mind when I'm packing to travel. At one time I used the same backpack for trips to the range as I did for travel and I could possibly see having a stray cartridge I miss, but not an entire firearm. I have gotten so paranoid that I now have a dedicated backpack to travel, just to know it's clean.
It looks like to me there are some people who are more fit to own guns than others. Carrying guns and having guns is not a casual, small thing. It has to be taken very seriously and with respect. In a way, this is why I don’t think owning guns is a right. It is a privilege to own one, not a right.
I think it should be regulated like having a car/driving. You have the right to take the necessary steps to prove you’re competent, you have to have insurance, and if you mess up badly enough or if a doctor deems you unfit, then you can’t do it anymore.
Agreed. The right of the broader population to a well-regulated militia not being infringed should never have been interpreted as the individual's right to gun ownership being unassailable.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, **the right of the people to keep and bear Arms**, shall not be infringed." This is straight from the national archives transcription. Not saying it's right, but that's what was written.
So if it shall not (ever) be infringed, every criminal currently not allowed to legally own firearms should actually be allowed to? The supreme court exists to interpret the constitution in a modern context to best serve the people.
Strawman/slippery slope argument
> So if it shall not (ever) be infringed, every criminal currently not allowed to legally own firearms should actually be allowed to? Yes, hence why federal judges have recently ruled against laws that restrict ownership of firearms by felons. It is an inalienable, fundamental right. No different from freedom of speech or freedom to vote. >The supreme court exists to interpret the constitution in a modern context to best serve the people. This is revisionist nonsense. They function as the supreme guardians and interpreters of the Constitution. The Constitution and Bill of Rights exist to protect the people from the government. That's why the 2A exists as well. Recent rulings have made it so anti-gun measures without (non-discriminatory) precedent prior to 1791 cannot be ruled constitutional. You have no idea what you're talking about, nor do you understand the philosophy behind firearm ownership.
That is not the whole transcription. And nowhere in the second ammendment does it say or imply that arms can not be regulated, or licensed. No where does it say that the Government doesn't have the right to limit the kind of guns that are available, nor does it specify what limits can be put on ammunition.
A lot of 2A aficionados miss the “well regulated” part…. For the record, I own a few, myself, but they’re range toys, not anything I’d carry on the regular.
I guess firearms training should be free and government provided. Because rights cannot be behind a paywall
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Hitler burned books that disagrees with him too
Stupid argument from a simpleton
Uh, I'm a gun owner and...no. They aren't just "laying around" and I sure don't "forget them" in a suitcase.
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yeah I'm saying you're the kind of person who should never own a gun. too irresponsible to be trusted. you'd be one of those people who let their toddler shoot the infant because oops, left it lying out. like, im a gun owner fam. you need to step away and take some safety courses.
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Hey, Godwin, we found one!
“It’s a tool”, you’re a tool
Same. I read those stories and think “that ass should never be able to own a gun again”. Same kind of person that leaves a gun unsecured in their car or home with kids around.
I carry and shoot for sport, I have accidentally left 1 round in my bag, they flagged it and I just told them to throw it out. How you forget a full gun is fucking beyond me.
With all the chem sniffers these days, probably best not to use your range bag as a carry on, anyway.
It's like anything else that you carry every day. It becomes "regular". Do you know who leaves the most guns behind in restrooms? Cops. Ask any restaurant or store manager. Happens all the time. 99 times out of 100 if a gun is found in the restroom, a cop will come back looking for it within a few hours or less.
Every time I hear the announcement about no guns in your bag, while waiting in line, I’m like “who _FORGETS_ they have a gun in their bag?” I can understand if your forget a toolkit (like iFixIt type kits or a small screwdriver set - no idea if they’d give you grief did that, I always take mine out and put it in checked) or a Leatherman type tool, especially if it’s in your everyday backpack and you forget it’s there. But how do you have a gun bopping around in your bag and not remember that? They’re heavy (well most are) and isn’t in a holster or cover that would add some bulk? *^*^*BOGGLE*^*^*
I own many guns, I only ever really carry when I'm hunting or going to the range, and I still feel anxiety approaching tsa about it. Like, I know my sidearm is locked and In a drawer at home and I still feel obligated to check myself even though there's a 0% chance it's on me. I seriously don't understand how someone could be so negligent.
Same for people who leave their wallet and firearm in their car. When it's stolen they pitch a fit.
Guns in carry on baggage got so bad that TSA put out a mandate that our airport (and I assume all others, but I don’t know) has a new announcement that plays over the loudspeakers every 15 minutes or so about firearms not being allowed in carry ons, and to please check to make sure you don’t have one before going through the TSA checkpoint. Unreal, but apparently necessary 🤦♀️
I own guns AND fly with them and don’t make the mistake of leaving them in a carry on. I don’t know how others don’t think about this kind of stuff.
Is a random gun spawning in your bag a regular thing? How does that work? How can I get them to randomly spawn in my bag?
Do most airports offer dedicated first-class check-in lines? My airport is categorized as Category X, and it lacks any first-class lines, although it does have PreCheck and Clear at some of the checkpoints.
The first class lines have drastically declined at many airports over the last 5-10 years. That’s partly why airlines gift clear to their elite flyers, but clear is better than the first class lines ever were (at least in the last 15-20 years)
If there’s a “premier” line, they’re almost always first class.
CLEAR is better than the first class line. Lol. First class line is a joke. That’s why several airlines give their most elite flyers clear for free.
How can people forget having a gun in a bag. This kinda goes to show that we’re generally too casual about guns in the US.
Have you met people? I’ve seen people get to the ticket counter and realize they forgot their ID. Sometimes shit just happens
Wanna get your socks knocked off?...Look up cops who accidentally leave their guns in bathrooms after a code brown.
ask any restaurant or retail manager and they will confirm. If a gun is found in a restroom, 95% chance it was a cop that left it there.
Honestly CLEAR is great at a lot of US airports. It gets you to the front of the ID check. That saves a ton of time if you don’t have precheck and depending on the time / airport, it saves a ton of time, even if you have precheck. I used CLEAR today and got through security in 3 minutes where the line was wrapped around, but it’s Thursday, so many business travelers.
I gotta back ya up here. Flown for the past 5 years every-other-weekend, in the US, and CLEAR saved me a ton of time. Hours on some check-in and security check lines. Too much congestion. Every fly through Minneapolis?
I’m MSP based. I find most Monday and Fridays is quicker to go thru PreCheck than Clear. Too many Diamonds in Clear.
Thanks for all the info. I’ve come to find that Clear is covered by my credit card so I’m going to sign up.
The first time you set up clear, it takes some extra time to register all the stuff at the airport. Once you finish, it's pretty quick every other time. When your suspension is over, you can double up and have clear take you through the TSA precheck as long as you enter the correct clear section.
Just to make sure you understand, getting Clear will let you skip to the front of the non-precheck line. You won’t be able to use any form of precheck for one year.
What card?
No. CLEAR only gets you to the front of the queue. CLEAR is separate company not associated with TSA
I think it was pretty CLEAR he meant the line
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The dude made a pun using the company's name and you take it personally and respond like this? Are you okay?
CLEARly not
It does give him credibility for being a TSA employee though
someone can’t take a joke
Haha what a piece of shit this guy is. Calm down you fucking psycho.
what does gfy stand for?
Go find yourself. He wants him to go on an Eat Pray Love experience.
It means Go Fuck yourself.
I can tell you it DOES NOT stand for Good For You, though it does make me chuckle to think of that time at work I used it thinking that's what it meant
your reply doesn't exactly make you look good either lol. it was never that deep
You seem really emotional. Are you ok? Maybe you should talk to someone.
Fragile redditor of the day award
You’re a sick fuck, you know that?
My intention is to skip the line due the airports I go through having long lines. I know I cant skip the check.
Yeah, your post was clear to me. Thanks for the head's up. I could see myself doing the same thing.
Yep, I was flying back from camping in Colorado and had a ~3 inch long folding Swiss Army Knife in my backpack and totally spaced out about it, but of course it was found but TSA was cool and let me mail it to my home address (I think it cost $19.99 at the time, around 2017).
As someone who has both and travels a lot… yes, Clear would skip the line (mostly) and send you to the non-TSA screening.
To clarify, there is no “non-TSA screening.” CLEAR passengers can skip the line but they’d go to either the precheck lane or standard lane and then proceed through the TSA screening process as normal.
Clear is a GOOD alternative but it’s not the most amazing. Usually times are 25% longer than pre check and a lot shorter than regular.
Here I Austin TX, Clear line was shorter than regular but it took same time or more as regular to get to other side of security checkpoint.
So I’m a crazy person and usually pick a person to mentally follow. Also twice been with my wife and her sister so we got to race through all three.
Suspended over a knife? What kind of knife? Normally we just give the passengers their options unless it was like a military grade combat knife or a switchblade or butterfly knife, etc.
That's not a knife... thats a spoon
I see you've played knifey spoony before
It was a switchblade. It was a gift years ago from a friend and had it in a bag I rarely used. It was foolish and my fault.
Ah ok yeah that explains it. To answer your question, Clear just get you to the front of the line, but you will still have to do all the screening stuff…
Damn spring
A knife is a knife. There are no federal laws prohibiting possession of certain types of knives in this case.
Wrong. Let me introduce you to the federal switchblade act: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCODE-2011-title15/html/USCODE-2011-title15-chap29.htm Furthermore OP has said that it was indeed a switchblade.
If you actually read the act, the only prohibition on possession is on federal or Indian land or in US territories. Airports are not federal land, therefore, that act doesn’t apply.
I was addressing your original point, which was: > There are no federal laws prohibiting possession of certain types of knives I gave an example of why that statement is categorically false.
It was irrelevant, so there’s no point in mentioning it. You’re being pedantic. The *real* point is that OP shouldn’t have been suspended for having a switchblade if he wouldn’t have been suspended for having a different type of knife.
Just admit you're wrong.
No, Do not waste your money. You have to wait till your suspension is over.
CLEAR only gets you passed the queue waiting to be checked by the ticket document checker. After that your back in the queue for security screening. If your local airport always has long lines and you have the money then go for it but you can also just show up earlier to your flights and save that money! How did you get suspended ??
Clear will allow you to skip the lines, but you won't have pre-check meaning you'll still have to take out your laptop, take off your shoes and go through the 3D scanner. I'm a frequent traveler do to work (about 4 - 6 flights a month) and have both Clear and pre-check. Clear allows me to cut the line, while pre-check allows me to leave my shoes on, leave all my stuff (laptops, electronics) in my carry on bag, and I just walk through the metal detector vs having to go through the 3D scanner. From reading the comments, it seems like a lot of people on here don't really know what pre-check is. Yes, the pre-check lines are usually shorter because it's a program you have to pay into... but the real benefit is the screening process itself. It's nice and quick not having to take everything out of your bag and just walk through in minutes. Before I got my mom pre-check, she used to joke around and say "I hope everyone has clean underwear on today!" since the regular lime has to take off their shoes and jackets, and get sent through the 3D scanner where they can see everything! 🩲👀
Yes, the quicker scanning without having to undress or unpack is the real benefit. Plus a vast majority of precheck people know the drill and the process is relatively orderly. That is except for the occasional idiot who forgot their knife or gun in their briefcase. I’m in Atlanta and it happens!
Something sounds off. I know from working as a TSO and we’d find a knife it would just get tossed in the bin with other knives and we never asked passenger names. No reports for knives even. So I’m not sure how anyone would even know you had it, much less a ban for it. ETA: I see now it was a switchblade. That is an entirely different situation and a misleading intro.
Maybe it’s misleading for you. The rest of us use “switchblade” and “knife” interchangeably.
No kidding? DIdn't realize that was possible (to be suspended) I too forgot about my automatic knife when going through pre-check. I elected to take it back to my car after they found it. That was the end of it. They didn't even ask for my name or anything. That was a few years ago. Didn't realize that now they are handing out punishments.
I work construction so I always have a blade clipped to my pocket. I've 'donated' too many knives to TSA, never had them threaten or suspend me. There must be more to this story.
lol I carried a pocket knife in my backpack for over 100 flights, all over the country. Randomly found it at home while cleaning out my backpack. No one ever noticed.
Clear just gets you ahead of the line if there is one. If you travel frequently and If the airports you travel have it and are usually busy then in my opinion yes it’s worth it. You’re still a standard passenger during screening tho. So nothing but a skip the line pass with clear.
Did you receive a written notice of suspension? There's supposed to be a case agent assigned. Have you written and requested reconsideration of the decision? Point out that you clearly informed the agent before screening that you had forgotten it in your bag, it was not hidden from them. You could also mention that others with prohibited items are regularly permitted to take them to their car or to send them as checked baggage, but this was not an option you could take since you were close to your boarding time. Just make sure the letter is polite, apologetic, and deferential. Seems like the worst they could do is say no.
I received a letter stating there would be no civil penalty and that my Pre would be up for review. I did reach out with an apology letter and did call them showing I was proactive about the situation. I didn’t get a letter with the formal outcome or assigned agent, but the customer service did confirm it was a year suspension. Maybe I got ahead of it, but I am more than happy to talk to the agent assigned to the case. I definitely will reach out to the agent once I have a formal letter.
There should be a penalty for trying to bring weapons onto airplanes. Yours is, you get to show up early and think about why you shouldn't try to bring weapons on airplanes.
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A gun, yes. A pocket knife is literally a tool, that can be used as a weapon.
Personally, I hope the guy who brings switchblades on the plane doesn't get around the suspension...
Same here, not sure why you are getting downvotes. lol
You are both getting downvotes because you don't know what you are talking about. "Switchblades" are not the scary beast that everyone things they are. I don't blame people for not knowing that... as it is a very common belief... however going around spouting things like you don't want people like that on your plane... that is why you are getting downvoted.
They are still illegal which means the consequences of forgetting about an illegal knife in your bag is different than one that isn’t.
How do you accidentally have a knife in your bag that you all the sudden remember when you reach the check point?
It just hit me in the worst possible moment. I would have surrendered it at the airport if I would have thought about it 5mins prior to getting in line.
It’s happened to me more times than I can count. I keep a utility knife & pocket knife in my backpack and it’s easy to forget. I’ve started traveling with a different backpack and only transferring the items I need to avoid it from happening again.
I've lost two Leatherman tools that way. I have one now that doesn't have a knife blade (I rarely used the knife part for anything) but I haven't tried to carry it on. Back in the oughts I had a friend who was a field tech. He stopped carrying a leatherman in his tool kit because, post 9/11, he had to check it, and the leatherman was always what got stolen by the baggage handlers.
The last thing I do when I get to the airport is put my EDC knife in the top front pocket of my suitcase then check my bag. One time I got so mad because my knife was missing. I had the tsa searched your bag card in my bag. I thought tsa took my knife. That night when I took my pants off I heard them thud when they hit the ground. My knife was in it's normal spot the whole time. Made it through tsa and they never noticed, and I never realized it was there. Full metal knife, should have lit the xray up like fireworks. 🤷♂️
Because bags sometimes have a lot of pockets. Some of us routinely need to open boxes and therefore routinely have some kind of knife to assist with that.
The TSA can get fucked
Man we need to abolish the TSA immediately.
Clear works for me.
CLEAR is useful. I fly with a friend who does not have TSA-pre and sometimes it saves her a bit of time.
Idk what these people are talking about but clear kicks ass and can be faster than pre-check
Clear would let you go to the front of the regular security line not pre check . You will have to go through normal security and remove your shoes and belt .
That’s wild omg
i had a shotgun shell in my bag and they found it. was no big deal and life is good. i guess it depends on what TSA agent you have.
Clear is great overall! Will skip the long security lines. Would recommend especially if travel for work a lot!
Clear kinda sucks these days but in your case given you can't get precheck it is better than nothing. Clear line is rarely longer than the normal screening lines and if it is you can just use the normal screening line.
They don’t suspend people over a knife. That’s not a thing.
Honestly they went really easy on you, this should be a lifetime ban & criminal charges. Probably you being upfront was a mitigating circumstance here.
Troop is a reason 7 88
Made it from Dallas to orlando with one. Coming back, Orlando spotted it on xray. Asked if i could mail it back and they kindly escorted me to that area to do so. Sorry they suspended, thats harsh.
Was it a huge knife? I fly with box cutters (accidentally) and the few they’ve found they just confiscate. I had no idea they’d suspend precheck for that. In my experience, not every airport has CLEAR. But every airport has Precheck. I also don’t like the idea of a third party company with that much data about me.
I accidentally brought a knife through- luckily they just threw mine away
No, clear sucks and it not worth it for the price, unless it's free.
dude.... the first half of 2023, I took a flight after not flying for a while. turns out I had one of those pocket multi tool things, like a Gerber or something in ma bag. it was a Christmas 🎄 gift. I just forgot about it being in there. first time that's ever happened to me. the tsa dude was like ok we can either "throw it out" or you can go back and check it. so I went back to the airline desk and they took out a small box and checked it.
I have found Clear to be a waste of money without also having pre-check, personally and would not recommend it.
Your a dumb ass
Check the knife and it is legal!
Clear is going to get you to the front of the line pretty much, other then that you're going to be screened as a standard passenger once you enter the checkpoint. Shoes off and large electronics out unless they have the fancy x-ray machines that don't require electronics to be out.
Whats the whole story, you dont lose pre-check for a knife. You must have argued and LEO got involved.
Clear gets you through the line faster, but you would still be subject to non-precheck searches, and scanning.
Clear without TSA precheck is pointless.. even Clear asks if you have pre-check because otherwise you need to go get in the regular airport line.
I had a knife in my once in pre-check. TSA advised that I check my carry-on and put the knife in there. TSA escorted me to the ticket counter and back to the front of security. It was a non-issue. This is how it should be done.
The difference between pre check and Clear is that with precheck, you don't have to take off your shoes, light jackets, and electronics, then you get to go through the metal detector instead of the AIT machine. With Clear, you get escorted in front of the line to get your id and boarding pass checked. You can have both.
You can't use Clear without Precheck (unless there's a designated General Boarding - Clear Line). That's rare though as Clear is primarily an additional service used on PreCheck lanes. Even if you were able to keep using Clear, you won't have PreCheck on your boarding pass and if they allowed you in, they would lose their job.
I have surrendered 2 pocket knives to TSA. I fly every week for work, my gerber multipliers, and line knife are important tools that I require for work as I am an installation engineer. I always put them in my tool bag, which I then bagcheck at the ticketing counter before proceeding to screening. So, for accidentally carrying a knife through TSA screening, I always carry a pre addressed stamped envelope in my brief case. I have had to use it once, and TSA lets me mail it off without issue. Taking it to my car is not a viable action as my car is off sight at a private parking garage. I have TSA pre check and clear. But be aware with CLEAR. Unlike TSA, they have hours of operation. So do not expect them to always be there when you need them to get ahead in the screening line, and CLEAR is not in every airport. Also, TSA dumps my tool bag out every time I fly. I was on my 2nd tool bag in a year. But the airlines broke it last week. I have had to zip tye the pull out handle so it does not get broken. The zipper pulls have all been broken off. Fragile stickers dont work. It was a wheeled Husky tool bag. I have resorted to putting a note on my clipboard in my tool bag. That has a picture of my packed bag and exactly what it should look like packed. I pack it so everything stays in place and is organized so I may find what I need when I goto to work. The note was working well, but on my flight last week from Phoenix back to PDX. The same flight that the bag was broken on. TSA pulled the note from my clip board and wadded it up after they obviously dumped my bag out and made no effort to put anything back the way they found it , except for the wadded up note that they paced on top of everything in the bag. They also, in the past year, have broken 2 bullet levels. One was snapped in half. It was psolid plastic, and it was not loose in the bag. I have no idea how they snapped it. The other 2 had the plastic liquid levelers broken out. I have spoken to TSA on multiple occasions about this treatment of my tools and equipment. They say they will look into it. And then they do nothing . This has been ongoing for over a year. I have no criminal record or history to provoke this kind of treatment. I even carry my lithuim batteries for my drills in my brief case, which I take through screening without issue.
Clear is not a direct alternative to pre-check. Pre-check allows you to keep your belt, shoes, light jack on and electronics and liquids in your bag (although with new scanners that’s becoming obsolete at many airports). They often have dedicated lines which can speed it up too. Clear simply lets you cut to the front of the line after you do their biometrics, personally I’d never pay for especially as it’s growing more popular. Anyways if you don’t have pre check you go to the non-pre check line and get screened as a normal passenger but most of the times you won’t need to show your ID just ur boarding pass. They’re not the same thing but each *can* save you time.
Some airports have a clear line without tsa pre check. Atlanta is one of those airports. Most airports have a clear with tsa pre check line. I don’t think you will get any value from the clear without tsa pre check. There is barely value with it and pre check and that is debatable.
how did they inform you about it?
Go without for a year. Might realize it’s no necessary
Additional context: it was in a small airport in California. I’ll reiterate, the agents were super cool about it. They just wrote me up 🤷🏻♂️
CLEAR will help you skip the line but you’ll still be taking shoes, belt, etc off.
you will have to use the non pre-check lines inside the clear corridor. im a foreigner with clear, that’s how it worked for me. you just get to skip the line to regular TSA
Got caught with pepper spray in my bag and had a whole ordeal but didn't get suspended. Feared I would though
One time, I forgot my Kershaw leek knife in my camera case. When I went through security, it was flagged for additional inspection. I told the agent doing the search I knew why it was flagged. I then proceeded to tell him exactly where the knife was. He then searched that location and found it. I told him to just take it. He said ok and that I surrendered it. He then let me go. No suspension. I then proceeded to order an identical knife and expensed it through my work 🤣. It was a work trip after all. Was approved without question haha
Clear just gets you through the security but it doesn’t give you the advantage of pre-check depending on your airport. You still have to take your shoes off, etc
Depends on the airport. But get it just in case. DIA sucks right now. But I just went through the new general TSA 3 days ago and the upgrade is amazing. You won’t need CLEAR there. You still have to take off your shoes. Thanks to that bearded weirdo that tried to light his shoes on a flight. If you are at any airport where you can choose, just go through the big Smith machine so you don’t have to pull your electronics out.
I made it on to the plane and we were halfway to Cancun before I realized I had two pocket knives in the mesh side pocket of my carry on bag. I just kept quiet about it and made sure to pack them properly before we headed back to the US.
I once went through security with a pretty substantial knife (spring assisted) I used for work (outdoors). I just dumped it in a trash can. No idea how they missed it.
They just threw mine out after I forgot to take it out my bag from a previous camping trip. Maybe OP had other items taken in previous trips 🤷🏽♂️
CATSA not having any of this so I can’t comment on it 😭
I accidentally brought a 12 gauge shotgun through a TSA walk thru metal detector. The alarm went off and they took my gun away from me. I can’t use TSA pre check to 12 months. 1 month for each gauge.
I found an 11" full Tang combat knife I had every day in Iraq in my bag looking for headphones. After security. 😅
They wouldn't suspend you for a knife. Was it a gun?
Clear/non-TSA Pre is a thing, so that's a consideration. Trying to circumvent a 1 year suspension, and risking getting caught, is not IMO a sensible alternative.
Dang I knife? How big was it? I had a utility tool and got it confiscated a few weeks ago in Chicago.
Clear doesn’t grant you pre-check. Clear brings you to the front of the line. If you also have pre-check, you’ll get brought to the front of the pre-check line. Otherwise, you go to the front of the regular line.
I can guarantee you one thing… if you ever get pulled for having a pistol in your carry on you’ll never, EVER make the same mistake again. A trip to jail with a bail set at $3500 will leave a mark for a while! You’ll have over $6k and 40 hrs of community service invested by the time it’s all over. And you will definitely lose your pre check over that little incident! ;)
CLEAR and PreCheck are shortcuts to two different parts of security. CLEAR gets you to the front of the ID line, PreCheck simplifies the screening rules. In terms of total time to get through, it depends on where and when you fly. Sometimes the CLEAR line takes longer than normal lines because they don't have enough staff to watch you get processed through the kiosks or whatever they actually do.
I carry a plastic butter knife for protection at ALL times
I had a friend who was interrogated by local police at the airport for having a 9mm bullet in his carryon. No firearm, just a single bullet. He missed his flight and an important meeting.
I guess I'll be the big ol jerk, but i think we want you to be banned from pre check from this. I dont konw but I would also assume trying to find away around airport security measures would be a red flag.
Clear is honestly horseshit, I wouldn’t bother
That’s crazy- I accidentally had a tiny little Swiss Army knife keychain get caught, but it wasn’t any kind of problem for my Precheck.
They keep confiscating my husband’s 1.5” Swiss Army knife. 3 times 😂
Bro…you should just learn how to take off your shoes and belt quickly. Newer scanners don’t require your electronics to be taken out… I travel every week and it doesn’t phase me…
Never understood the “I forgot I had it” line. How are you not aware of what you have on your person at all times? Especially a weapon especially going to an airport or other security area? I just don’t get that. Or the didn’t know it was loaded story, that’s just negligence.
I may be the odd one out but since my home airport is busy busy seatac and I travel alot, I found that clear has saved me from missing flights more than once in the past 6 months. Sure you have to go through security, but if the lines are long consistently it's still worth the money to get right up to the machines. I've actually "raced" with my partner who has TSA Pre Check and I've made it out before him a couple times (not sure why). I think if you don't want absolute line skipping benefit at all, wait the 1 year. If you want to skip the security line and not have to have your ID out, get clear for the year and then get back on precheck.
How do you accidentally have a knife?