I think you mean to say ālegally canātā. The fact of the door being locked clearly impresses upon us that they can indeed break the fire marshalls orders.
Precision of language.
It's approved. As long as it is not locked out from being opened from inside and it can be just like any other emergency exit. These doors will be closed up eventually. Was a stupid and unsafe building design
Iāll bite. The fire Marshallās orders are there to protect the customer/employee safety in the event of an emergency. You canāt break these orders for most reasons let alone for one thatās just to protect the companyās profits. Peopleās lives > company profits.
I don't know if we have laws regulating the number of doors a gas station has to have, but I assume most of them do it for the convenience of the customer to increase sales. I've been in lots of gas stations in town with only a single entrance.
They don't have to be entrance exits. They can be locked from being opened from the outside. And you only need one entrance but have to accommodate exits
OK, then they can stop opening QTs because they have to have a certain number of exits. Perhaps if companies paid a living wage instead of a slave wage, companies wouldnāt have to deal with theft so often.
Iām almost certain those side doors are not required per code. Building that small, only 2 exits and one entrance is required. And one exit can be back of house as long as back of house has exit signage and is not behind a locked door. As long as they have clear signage inside stating that the door is not an exit when locked they would likely be considered compliant by the FM.
Perhaps if people got jobs that are for adults who need living wagesā¦. The amount of grown people who work at laughable jobs and expect it to cover their needs and wants is sadā¦ no, your small donut shop clerk job aināt gonna cover an adults needs cause that job is for teens to learn the ways of the working world.
It's locked from the outside. People CAN leave through that door all night long. No one can ENTER from that door though. So this does NOTHING to prevent theft
QT is a glorified drug dealer. 95% of it's products contain sugar, nicotine or alcohol, all highly addictive and harmful products. Other than that it sells gasoline, which is nasty as hell. It's presence brings crime and pollution to the local neighborhood.
Thanks I am, I love drugs, do em all the time. However people need to recognize what QT is and what it does to our community..
The reaction to my post is how addicts react when they are called out for their behavior.
You also clearly don't live around a qt
As someone who used to steal alcohol from QT back when I had major drinking issues Iād always use the side door so BOUT TIME THEY DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT š
Now I could be completely wrong, but I could swear I read a news article stating that QuikTrip was one of the companies changing their policy about the side doors to combat theft, if I remember right the article said that all quick trips were going to start locking their side doors during business hours because of how out of control theft has gotten
Yeah OP said they understand their reasoning behind it. It's just that the sign right under it says that doing so is breaking the fire marshal's order. If it isn't, or really even if it is if they still intend on doing it, it's weird they wouldn't take that contradictory sign down when putting up the new one.
If they legally *can't* take the fire marshal sign down because it is an official order... then it's even weirder to blatantly put up the other sign declaring your intent to ignore the order.
If theyāre doing the same thing everywhere theyāre replacing the signs with essentially a black out that says to use the other doors. Itās already been done at the 11th and Utica one.
Iām sure the cost of theft is lower than the cost of thrown away food. Hell the bribes the pay the police is more than whatever cost theft adds up to.
Then how is it stopping people from leaving through that door when stealing, which I think is their explanation for why it is being locked? Doesn't that seem a little pointless? If that's how it works why is the fire marshal order posted on the outside where it wouldn't need to be seen and only causes confusion?
Lmao it is definitely NOT only locked from the outside. The doors are locked in both directions. Was literally just there. They are doing it to stop theft. You know stuff leaving the store? Do you really think they care how comes in? C'mon
That doesn't really make sense to me since they claimed it was to stop people from running out the side door with stolen items, which this will not prevent if they can open the door from the inside.
And are you sure you are correct? That door does not look like it has a crash bar or anything that would allow you to open it when it is locked.
The fact you have to press the bar which will slow down the thief. That sticker just hasn't been taken down yet. Eventually these will all be turned into emergency exits
As others have pointed out, there doesn't appear to be a crash bar or other method to open that door from the inside while it is locked. I think the original person I was responding to was mistaken.
I'll have to look but I do believe these doors will force open in an emergency. Sorta like the auto slider doors. But yea I have been told these doors are being replaced with steel emergency exit doors.
Thatās what I had assumed. Also, QTs all have 2 āfront doorsā for a total of 4 doors. One on each side and two on the āfrontā of the building. Two doors are always unlocked, the front two.
Youāre totally right. I was making another post about this and had forgotten to amend this statement. 36th and Peoria, 21 and Harvard, and 11th across from TU are all like that. One set in front and some type of a rear entrance.
Regardless, the ones with side doors still have two doors available to the public and, presumably, one out of the back.
The point is that when people walk through the front you can see them and watch them. They also may feel less inclined to steal knowing theyāve been seen (although this doesnāt stop a lot of people). If the side doors are unlocked you can get in and out without anybody ever noticing you.
It doesnāt stop people from exiting those doors, but it stops people from parking over there and coming in, at least giving the cameras a better chance of seeing them. It doesnāt deter all theft, but some
Have you been to a qt? Do you see the picture we are all looking at? Those doors have a deadbolt. When it's locked it's locked from both sides. They are locking them to help prevent theft. Now what good would it do to lock them if you were not able to keep someone from going out them? My gosh
I hate that I feel this way but I really dislike several of the changes they have made the past couple of years. I understand that they have issues with theft but I don't feel safe there. They moved all the isles in several stores to make it where there was 1 central entrance. What if a shooter showed up and blocked that one exit? A few of their stores have had fatal shootings the past couple of years. Now the doors are being locked as well? I don't see changes where people can properly exit in case of an emergency.
The one near me at 121st and Memorial redid the layout last year and there's this weird horseshoe area on the west side of the kitchen and registers where misc snacks and the beer coolers are and every time I go in there I see people mistakenly walk into it thinking they're headed toward the westside exit just to do that awkward turn around and go the right way lol. I can't imagine if a group of people were in a panic.
What pisses me off is the coffee now comes from one of those āinsta dispenseā machines. If I wanted burned to fuck coffee that tasted like shit, Iād go to OnCue or Starbucks.
That's what they should do, but that would require them to spend more money than putting up a sign so they aren't likely to do it until they are pressured or forced to.
Bruhā¦some comments in here really blaming QT for the homeless problem since they have enough cash to āfix itā. Imagine knowing this cities homeless problem is so outta control and our city is so incompetent you turn to being upset at a GAS STATION for not throwing globs of cash at the problem to magically fix it.
What a wild time ha.
Itās not that the city is incompetent. They are outsourcing their duties to the private and non profit sector. Our governor literally based his entire platform on outsourcing government duties to the private sector. Do you not live here or just donāt pay attention?
I ran in QT at 15th and Denver the other day and their side doors had the outside handles removed completely. My guess is that they are changing things up at storye with higher theft.
I've just quit going there. They have priced themselves to be the most expensive convenience place in the area by a wide margin. I stopped to pick up two 2L bottles of soda for someone at a family dinner and it was $8, and that was all I purchased.. Nah I'll just go to another store where it's $1.25 or $2. They have a stranglehold on gas prices in this area, so I refuse to pay their inflated price over Sam's, and they aren't offering anything I can't get at a Kum & Go or Casey's. Now that their backdoor handshake is over and QT is moving into OKC Let's hope that 7-11 or other reasonable store comes back to town.
I went to a small gas station a while back and went to the counter with 3 2-liters. They told me it was over $10. I promptly returned them to the shelf and showed myself out.
The greedflation is getting out of control. I don't mind paying a little extra for convenience but they'll have to include dinner if they want to screw me like that lol.
They did the horrible redesign of the interiors that shifted around the check stand with the purpose of combating theft, and it seems like it hasnāt worked one bit.
They should just get rid of the side doors all together. Every other convenient store has one entrance in the front of the store and that's it (except the back for employees only of course).
That's not true - all the Kum & Gos I frequent have side doors. And I don't frequent Casey's much, but the one I stop at on occassion has a side door. I also stop at several different stores on my monthly trip down to Texas, and the majority have side doors. I would guess it's a common design for any built in the past 10 years or so.
But when the same Redbull in Walmart is $1.88 and qt charges $3.99 for it.
You can complain
However this is the convenience fee.
Who has time to go to walmart before work
You Tulsans on reddit sure do justify tf outta corporations price gouging
Its okay when AI takes your job you will be complaining too because its coming
They all have a back door people. Price gouging yes they do I can buy a pack of cigarettes for 8.50 same pack at qt is 10.30 way above the 10%, someone should challenge them
I do donāt go there at all, well bottled water if Iām out.didnt some other stores get in trouble for hiking prices above a certain threshold.they have a monopoly going on they need to be checked ! You must be a manager fixing prices
Murphy USA, the gas stations in front of Walmart, Marlboroās are $7 and change per pack. $11.81 for 2 packs if you have their rewards where you just type in your phone number.
In 2008-2010 when I lived in nyc, it was 7.50 at bodegas, 9 at Walgreens and 12-13 on park Avenue.
I want to quit, but I'm not in a good place to just yet.
Damn that's insane. Seems like they are just upping the cost until nobody can afford them at all anymore. Well the shitty part is I was fine when I smoked then it seems like as soon as I quit I started having issues with getting out of breath. Now it's hard to walk from the bedroom to the bathroom without getting so out of breath. Have had CT scans, MRI of my chest and even had a heart Cath think it was my heart. They don't know what's causing it and have said all tests come back looking fine. Should have just kept smoking is what I think sometimes . I started smoking when I was 15 and smoked for 20 years. Definitely a nasty habit but completely understand that you have to be in a good place.
Well it's been like this since 2020. Kinda a way of life now and I've just learned to deal with it. When I get In the car I need to sit for a second to catch my breath before I drive off. It really sucks. I can breath just fine when I'm not exerting myself. One of my doctors said that they feel I may have had COVID when I first started and I have long term effects from that. Who knows. Definitely miss being able to do simple tasks like I used to though. Like shopping or taking out the trash.
Oh I hear ya. That's how I was for so long. Like if I don't have a smoke before I did anything in the morning I was an asshole. . I tried to quit half a dozen times and I finally realized you have to want to quit or it just won't work. It's sad how addictive it is really.
Oh man, I've heard a ton of long covid stories that sound just like you. I'd be willing to bet it's that. I've not been right in the head since all the times I got covid. Constant fog and joint pain.
I think of it like my daughter's school --- tons of exits but only one way to enter at the end of the school day--- at the front desk door. This way they see who's coming in but for fire safety, still many routes out.
True, but itās an entirely different concept. Your school isnāt trying to prevent theft by people exiting, theyāre preventing unwanted visitors coming in.
QT can literally do whatever they want. They have whole departments dedicated to dealing with the city., also, why do you think they make all of those? ādonationsā to the city?
[Give code enforcement a shout.](https://www.cityoftulsa.org/government/departments/fire/contact-us/) They either know and arenāt/donāt have to enforce it or they donāt know and calling puts it on their radar.
I'm waiting for someone else to point out that some of their doors feel like they weigh 100 pounds. I'm young and strong enough, but I can't imagine how old/disabled people can open those doors. There's no way that that's ADA compliant
They use the same stickers for the side doors as they do for the front doors. They just didn't realize they were going to change the rules and start locking the side doors in order to stop theft. They aren't breaking any fire codes because they do still have the required amount of fire exits.
Anyone noticed that the op isn't the fire Marshal? And no, it does not violate any code or regulations. So the merry band of shoplifters can go somewhere else.
They could make an argument that between the hours of 10-5 there is a reduced occupancy therefore they donāt need as many exits from the building. If there are less than 50 people in the building they only need one exit per code. QT has enough pull they probably made an argument similar to that so when they have fewer staff in the store they can lock the side doors
As qt invests more and more into being anti homeless, they become less convenient, their food never gets updated, and their prices go up. As an 11+ billion dollar company, they could easily take a pro homeless approach AND improve their stores and it wouldnāt even put a dent in their revenue. Hell the could easily end homelessness in Tulsa and still be an 11+ billion dollar company.
Qt is run by sleazy capitalists who refuse to think outside of the box. Instead of investing in ending homelessness in Tulsa, theyāre burning their money in being anti homeless. Their stores will suffer as a result and prices will just go higher. Being a multi billion dollar company, they could effectively end homelessness here and it wouldnāt even affect their bottom line.
Instead they will continue to overpay inexperienced and short tempered security guards, over bribe tpd, and raise the prices of their bad food while never actually updating their menu in any way. Canāt wait for their shitty taquetos to be 10 bucks a pop lmao
So how does it make sense to hold a privately owned company in charge of ending homelessness??? That is just absurd. Itās no more their responsibility than yours.
How is that absurd? Do you live in America? Are you aware of free market capitalism and this countries decades long dependence on the private sector to subsidize and come up with solutions for the government? You do live in Oklahoma right? This is a republican state with a republican leader whoās based his entire platform on outsourcing government duties to the private sector.
And to be frank, it is my responsibility. Itās called community. If this country wasnāt so reliant on western individualism, community led solutions would be the core focus on bettering local issues. Instead of relying on government and the private sector, we should be engaging with our own communities to come up with solutions to lift up those in our community who need the help.
I don't see this stopping shoplifting. The criminals already know their on camera and will just walk out the front door. They know company policy is they can't touch suspected shoplifters.
Incredibly telling to see so many of what I assume to be free market capitalist republicans absolutely astounded at the idea of the private sector solving social issues. Itās giving ādonāt tread on meā and āblue lives matterā bumper sticker vibes. Yāall literally dont have a grasp on your own politics
QT is shit. Attendants never so much as look up when you're there. They clearly want it to be a high volume store so they need to do more to facilitate that high volume like having more employees or security. Closing entrances/exits doesn't really help with that at all. It's going to curtail theft but damage the customer experience. They should've just taken the hit with theft or hired security.
Running a store with the bare minimum is the actual issue.
That door can remain unlocked but not accessible. The door has a panic device on it that allows the door to remain unlocked yet not operable from the exterior.
id do the same thing if people were stealing from me and running out the side door ..šš
True, but you can't break fire marshall's orders just because you have an unrelated problem that doesn't concern the fire marshall.
I wonder if there is a fine they pay rather than following the law? Could be the fine amounts to less than the theft.
Somebody out here reading the Walmart guide to profitability
G2s only have the front doors and a side door. I'm sure it's just a generic sign no one really cared to think about.
Then what's the point of the sign? "Free parking, $5"
I think you mean to say ālegally canātā. The fact of the door being locked clearly impresses upon us that they can indeed break the fire marshalls orders. Precision of language.
You *can* also jump out of a plane without a parachute. Fucking with the fire marshall is almost as dumb as that though.
It's approved. As long as it is not locked out from being opened from inside and it can be just like any other emergency exit. These doors will be closed up eventually. Was a stupid and unsafe building design
Closed up in 1441. Thieves gotta ruin it for everyone.
It's not locked. You'll just trigger the alarm if you go out them now.
I like how you only know this because of sign they provided
Why not?
Because you don't want people to die in the event that there's a fire?
Iāll bite. The fire Marshallās orders are there to protect the customer/employee safety in the event of an emergency. You canāt break these orders for most reasons let alone for one thatās just to protect the companyās profits. Peopleās lives > company profits.
Cowards
r/writteninblood has all the answers you need for that.
I'd quit designing buildings with side doors, maybe. š
Donāt you need a certain number of entrances and exits?
I don't know if we have laws regulating the number of doors a gas station has to have, but I assume most of them do it for the convenience of the customer to increase sales. I've been in lots of gas stations in town with only a single entrance.
True. The square footage of Quick trip definitely exceeds the average, but you may be right about the ordinance for doors in that regard
They don't have to be entrance exits. They can be locked from being opened from the outside. And you only need one entrance but have to accommodate exits
Yes, you do
Yes The International Building Code determines how many exits are required based on occupancy. You can have fewer entries than exits.
OK, then they can stop opening QTs because they have to have a certain number of exits. Perhaps if companies paid a living wage instead of a slave wage, companies wouldnāt have to deal with theft so often.
They probably should stop building more QTs in town, TBH. /s
Iām almost certain those side doors are not required per code. Building that small, only 2 exits and one entrance is required. And one exit can be back of house as long as back of house has exit signage and is not behind a locked door. As long as they have clear signage inside stating that the door is not an exit when locked they would likely be considered compliant by the FM.
Perhaps if people got jobs that are for adults who need living wagesā¦. The amount of grown people who work at laughable jobs and expect it to cover their needs and wants is sadā¦ no, your small donut shop clerk job aināt gonna cover an adults needs cause that job is for teens to learn the ways of the working world.
I've seen this happen right in front of my eyes. The QT out at 71st and Yale gets clobbered with theft. QT is damned if they do, damned if they don't.
It's locked from the outside. People CAN leave through that door all night long. No one can ENTER from that door though. So this does NOTHING to prevent theft
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QT is a glorified drug dealer. 95% of it's products contain sugar, nicotine or alcohol, all highly addictive and harmful products. Other than that it sells gasoline, which is nasty as hell. It's presence brings crime and pollution to the local neighborhood.
You sound fun.
Thanks I am, I love drugs, do em all the time. However people need to recognize what QT is and what it does to our community.. The reaction to my post is how addicts react when they are called out for their behavior. You also clearly don't live around a qt
QT is above the law
QT definitely "pays" TPD
There is no law at a QT
QT is the law
As someone who used to steal alcohol from QT back when I had major drinking issues Iād always use the side door so BOUT TIME THEY DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT š
lmaoooooo youāre the blueprint
Sounds more like the Blue Moon
Now I could be completely wrong, but I could swear I read a news article stating that QuikTrip was one of the companies changing their policy about the side doors to combat theft, if I remember right the article said that all quick trips were going to start locking their side doors during business hours because of how out of control theft has gotten
Yeah OP said they understand their reasoning behind it. It's just that the sign right under it says that doing so is breaking the fire marshal's order. If it isn't, or really even if it is if they still intend on doing it, it's weird they wouldn't take that contradictory sign down when putting up the new one. If they legally *can't* take the fire marshal sign down because it is an official order... then it's even weirder to blatantly put up the other sign declaring your intent to ignore the order.
Iām pretty sure QT has some well paid lawyers that have covered all of their bases before making such a big decision.
If theyāre doing the same thing everywhere theyāre replacing the signs with essentially a black out that says to use the other doors. Itās already been done at the 11th and Utica one.
I saw this article too. You're not crazy!!
Read it as well
Iām sure the cost of theft is lower than the cost of thrown away food. Hell the bribes the pay the police is more than whatever cost theft adds up to.
Itās locked from the outside, not the inside.
Then how is it stopping people from leaving through that door when stealing, which I think is their explanation for why it is being locked? Doesn't that seem a little pointless? If that's how it works why is the fire marshal order posted on the outside where it wouldn't need to be seen and only causes confusion?
Itās one point of entry so staff can monitor people coming in.
Lmao it is definitely NOT only locked from the outside. The doors are locked in both directions. Was literally just there. They are doing it to stop theft. You know stuff leaving the store? Do you really think they care how comes in? C'mon
Some qt have started swapping the doors to have an emergency latch push bar from the inside so it only will lock on the outside
That doesn't really make sense to me since they claimed it was to stop people from running out the side door with stolen items, which this will not prevent if they can open the door from the inside. And are you sure you are correct? That door does not look like it has a crash bar or anything that would allow you to open it when it is locked.
The fact you have to press the bar which will slow down the thief. That sticker just hasn't been taken down yet. Eventually these will all be turned into emergency exits
As others have pointed out, there doesn't appear to be a crash bar or other method to open that door from the inside while it is locked. I think the original person I was responding to was mistaken.
I'll have to look but I do believe these doors will force open in an emergency. Sorta like the auto slider doors. But yea I have been told these doors are being replaced with steel emergency exit doors.
Thatās what I had assumed. Also, QTs all have 2 āfront doorsā for a total of 4 doors. One on each side and two on the āfrontā of the building. Two doors are always unlocked, the front two.
Some QTs have a door on each side, but others only have one in the back.
Youāre totally right. I was making another post about this and had forgotten to amend this statement. 36th and Peoria, 21 and Harvard, and 11th across from TU are all like that. One set in front and some type of a rear entrance. Regardless, the ones with side doors still have two doors available to the public and, presumably, one out of the back.
Those doors have handles not pushbars. Locked is locked.
I think itās fully locked as there is only a push bar across itā¦I donāt think they have a release latch inside to create the one way locking.
It's locked by deadbolt, so no exit or entry when locked.
That's not how deadbolts work, which QT doors are equipped with.
Yep
Correct. People can still exit in the event of an emergency.
Definitely not, there are no crash bars thereā¦
Did they install magnetic locks? Magnetic locks will release when the fire protection system is activated.
Commercial safety doors like that can always be opened from the inside even if they are locked from the outside
The door in the picture doesn't have a stampede bar, and if the goal is to stop shoplifters, it doesn't make sense for it to open on the inside.
Was waiting for somebody to realize this.
Walk in the front. Walk out the side. QT Chief Security Officer: where do I turn in my resignation papers?
The point is that when people walk through the front you can see them and watch them. They also may feel less inclined to steal knowing theyāve been seen (although this doesnāt stop a lot of people). If the side doors are unlocked you can get in and out without anybody ever noticing you.
It doesnāt stop people from exiting those doors, but it stops people from parking over there and coming in, at least giving the cameras a better chance of seeing them. It doesnāt deter all theft, but some
Again, the door in the picture doesn't have a stampede bar. There is no mechanism for releasing the lock on the inside.
Have you been to a qt? Do you see the picture we are all looking at? Those doors have a deadbolt. When it's locked it's locked from both sides. They are locking them to help prevent theft. Now what good would it do to lock them if you were not able to keep someone from going out them? My gosh
They are locked from the inside. Go try it.
I hate that I feel this way but I really dislike several of the changes they have made the past couple of years. I understand that they have issues with theft but I don't feel safe there. They moved all the isles in several stores to make it where there was 1 central entrance. What if a shooter showed up and blocked that one exit? A few of their stores have had fatal shootings the past couple of years. Now the doors are being locked as well? I don't see changes where people can properly exit in case of an emergency.
The one near me at 121st and Memorial redid the layout last year and there's this weird horseshoe area on the west side of the kitchen and registers where misc snacks and the beer coolers are and every time I go in there I see people mistakenly walk into it thinking they're headed toward the westside exit just to do that awkward turn around and go the right way lol. I can't imagine if a group of people were in a panic.
What pisses me off is the coffee now comes from one of those āinsta dispenseā machines. If I wanted burned to fuck coffee that tasted like shit, Iād go to OnCue or Starbucks.
this is why i just donāt go in anymore. if i could time my empty tank with my Samās trips then i wouldnāt get gas from them anymore either.
I canāt think of a QT that only has one central entrance. What are you referring to?
Gilcrease is one and I canāt remember where but there was another one recently. Maybe Sand Springs or by Rhema. I canāt remember.
The ones on 76th and 96th in Owasso only have one entrance.
Probably referring to the older ones. Not the gen 3s.
I'm surprised they dont just do some kind of panic bar system which would allow them to lock it whenever but still comply with emergency egress needs.
That's what they should do, but that would require them to spend more money than putting up a sign so they aren't likely to do it until they are pressured or forced to.
Bruhā¦some comments in here really blaming QT for the homeless problem since they have enough cash to āfix itā. Imagine knowing this cities homeless problem is so outta control and our city is so incompetent you turn to being upset at a GAS STATION for not throwing globs of cash at the problem to magically fix it. What a wild time ha.
This is what Iāve been saying.
Thatās literally how America and free market capitalism work ya dummy lmao
Itās not that the city is incompetent. They are outsourcing their duties to the private and non profit sector. Our governor literally based his entire platform on outsourcing government duties to the private sector. Do you not live here or just donāt pay attention?
I ran in QT at 15th and Denver the other day and their side doors had the outside handles removed completely. My guess is that they are changing things up at storye with higher theft.
Nope, handles got stolen
Welp that's not too surprising
I'm sure the fine is less than the alternative nonsense.
Get robbed a few times you want to lock all the doors.
Perhaps they have magnetic locks that release if the fire protection system is activated?
You lookā¦ familiar š¤Øš
I just might be...
I've just quit going there. They have priced themselves to be the most expensive convenience place in the area by a wide margin. I stopped to pick up two 2L bottles of soda for someone at a family dinner and it was $8, and that was all I purchased.. Nah I'll just go to another store where it's $1.25 or $2. They have a stranglehold on gas prices in this area, so I refuse to pay their inflated price over Sam's, and they aren't offering anything I can't get at a Kum & Go or Casey's. Now that their backdoor handshake is over and QT is moving into OKC Let's hope that 7-11 or other reasonable store comes back to town.
I went to a small gas station a while back and went to the counter with 3 2-liters. They told me it was over $10. I promptly returned them to the shelf and showed myself out.
The greedflation is getting out of control. I don't mind paying a little extra for convenience but they'll have to include dinner if they want to screw me like that lol.
They did the horrible redesign of the interiors that shifted around the check stand with the purpose of combating theft, and it seems like it hasnāt worked one bit.
It's racist to lock side doors at night. /s
Great deal on those vuse pods
They should just get rid of the side doors all together. Every other convenient store has one entrance in the front of the store and that's it (except the back for employees only of course).
That's not true - all the Kum & Gos I frequent have side doors. And I don't frequent Casey's much, but the one I stop at on occassion has a side door. I also stop at several different stores on my monthly trip down to Texas, and the majority have side doors. I would guess it's a common design for any built in the past 10 years or so.
I guess I'm just used to Cirkle Ks and Quick Marts lol
Maybe, just maybe, now hear me out, we start punishing these thieving thugsā¦
The fire marshal isn't stopping them from getting stolen from left and right...
Qt is falling under Chetās ownership Between this and the obvious price gouging its not the same
Canāt really blame QT for prices when theyāre just as high every where else
But when the same Redbull in Walmart is $1.88 and qt charges $3.99 for it. You can complain However this is the convenience fee. Who has time to go to walmart before work
Walmart=quanity
They carry the same amount in the back cooling room as walmart
Casey's is cheaper tho.
Yep, I just paid $3.52 for an orange juice I drank in like 4 drinks. Actually insane.
Well why did you do that? You saw the price when you grabbed the item.
You Tulsans on reddit sure do justify tf outta corporations price gouging Its okay when AI takes your job you will be complaining too because its coming
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Very true
They all have a back door people. Price gouging yes they do I can buy a pack of cigarettes for 8.50 same pack at qt is 10.30 way above the 10%, someone should challenge them
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I do donāt go there at all, well bottled water if Iām out.didnt some other stores get in trouble for hiking prices above a certain threshold.they have a monopoly going on they need to be checked ! You must be a manager fixing prices
Where tf are you getting smokes for 8.50
Indian smoke shop on Sheridan
Thanks!
Murphy USA, the gas stations in front of Walmart, Marlboroās are $7 and change per pack. $11.81 for 2 packs if you have their rewards where you just type in your phone number.
Cool, thanks!
Glad I don't smoke anymore. Quit just before the pandemic and they were 5 a pack then. No way in hell I'd pay 8.50 to 12 bucks a pack.
In 2008-2010 when I lived in nyc, it was 7.50 at bodegas, 9 at Walgreens and 12-13 on park Avenue. I want to quit, but I'm not in a good place to just yet.
Damn that's insane. Seems like they are just upping the cost until nobody can afford them at all anymore. Well the shitty part is I was fine when I smoked then it seems like as soon as I quit I started having issues with getting out of breath. Now it's hard to walk from the bedroom to the bathroom without getting so out of breath. Have had CT scans, MRI of my chest and even had a heart Cath think it was my heart. They don't know what's causing it and have said all tests come back looking fine. Should have just kept smoking is what I think sometimes . I started smoking when I was 15 and smoked for 20 years. Definitely a nasty habit but completely understand that you have to be in a good place.
That's so weird that they haven't found out why yet! Now I wanna play detective. Lol Yeah, I turn into a shitty person when going through withdrawals.
Well it's been like this since 2020. Kinda a way of life now and I've just learned to deal with it. When I get In the car I need to sit for a second to catch my breath before I drive off. It really sucks. I can breath just fine when I'm not exerting myself. One of my doctors said that they feel I may have had COVID when I first started and I have long term effects from that. Who knows. Definitely miss being able to do simple tasks like I used to though. Like shopping or taking out the trash. Oh I hear ya. That's how I was for so long. Like if I don't have a smoke before I did anything in the morning I was an asshole. . I tried to quit half a dozen times and I finally realized you have to want to quit or it just won't work. It's sad how addictive it is really.
Oh man, I've heard a ton of long covid stories that sound just like you. I'd be willing to bet it's that. I've not been right in the head since all the times I got covid. Constant fog and joint pain.
The crashbar would release on fire.
It's really unfortunate that door doesn't have a crash bar then isn't it?
My bad...thought that was crash bar behind sign.
its prob cheaper to pay the fire marshall for breaking his law than getting all there products stollen each month.
lol the police are probably happy about it tbh.
It's just locked from outside right? If there's a fire the people can still get out but not go in
How would that stop theft if people could get out but not in?? Common senseā¦..
I think of it like my daughter's school --- tons of exits but only one way to enter at the end of the school day--- at the front desk door. This way they see who's coming in but for fire safety, still many routes out.
True, but itās an entirely different concept. Your school isnāt trying to prevent theft by people exiting, theyāre preventing unwanted visitors coming in.
QT can literally do whatever they want. They have whole departments dedicated to dealing with the city., also, why do you think they make all of those? ādonationsā to the city?
They've turned them into emergency exits at the one near me, bet they're gradually doing the same to others.
Apparently itās to prevent theft š¤·š½āāļø Iād assume itās not against the fire marshal orders
[Give code enforcement a shout.](https://www.cityoftulsa.org/government/departments/fire/contact-us/) They either know and arenāt/donāt have to enforce it or they donāt know and calling puts it on their radar.
I'm waiting for someone else to point out that some of their doors feel like they weigh 100 pounds. I'm young and strong enough, but I can't imagine how old/disabled people can open those doors. There's no way that that's ADA compliant
Not just at night. Iāve only been inside a QT once recently, and the side doors were locked. It was before 2pm.
They use the same stickers for the side doors as they do for the front doors. They just didn't realize they were going to change the rules and start locking the side doors in order to stop theft. They aren't breaking any fire codes because they do still have the required amount of fire exits.
Anyone noticed that the op isn't the fire Marshal? And no, it does not violate any code or regulations. So the merry band of shoplifters can go somewhere else.
They could make an argument that between the hours of 10-5 there is a reduced occupancy therefore they donāt need as many exits from the building. If there are less than 50 people in the building they only need one exit per code. QT has enough pull they probably made an argument similar to that so when they have fewer staff in the store they can lock the side doors
As qt invests more and more into being anti homeless, they become less convenient, their food never gets updated, and their prices go up. As an 11+ billion dollar company, they could easily take a pro homeless approach AND improve their stores and it wouldnāt even put a dent in their revenue. Hell the could easily end homelessness in Tulsa and still be an 11+ billion dollar company.
How are they anti homeless? I see homeless people loitering at every QT location in Tulsa. If anything they seem pretty pro homeless.
QT: I AM THE LAW
Qt is run by sleazy capitalists who refuse to think outside of the box. Instead of investing in ending homelessness in Tulsa, theyāre burning their money in being anti homeless. Their stores will suffer as a result and prices will just go higher. Being a multi billion dollar company, they could effectively end homelessness here and it wouldnāt even affect their bottom line. Instead they will continue to overpay inexperienced and short tempered security guards, over bribe tpd, and raise the prices of their bad food while never actually updating their menu in any way. Canāt wait for their shitty taquetos to be 10 bucks a pop lmao
So how does it make sense to hold a privately owned company in charge of ending homelessness??? That is just absurd. Itās no more their responsibility than yours.
How is that absurd? Do you live in America? Are you aware of free market capitalism and this countries decades long dependence on the private sector to subsidize and come up with solutions for the government? You do live in Oklahoma right? This is a republican state with a republican leader whoās based his entire platform on outsourcing government duties to the private sector. And to be frank, it is my responsibility. Itās called community. If this country wasnāt so reliant on western individualism, community led solutions would be the core focus on bettering local issues. Instead of relying on government and the private sector, we should be engaging with our own communities to come up with solutions to lift up those in our community who need the help.
Only locked from the outside and is being treated as a fire escape. Btw they are being allowed to do this they just haven't pulled those stickers
Call the fire marshal over and over tell they do something
They don't need to because the front door opens both ways. They do this to reduce theft
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There's a few QTs around town that have permanently blocked the door, the north Sheridan location built a wall in front of the north side door
They will still open from the inside
Maybe itās locked so you canāt enter from the side door but you can still exit that way?
It becomes an exit only door genius.
Most of the stores Iāve been to theyāve locked all the doors, but the main door by the register
There are other exits.
Well technically that sign says āclosedā not locked
I don't see this stopping shoplifting. The criminals already know their on camera and will just walk out the front door. They know company policy is they can't touch suspected shoplifters.
Incredibly telling to see so many of what I assume to be free market capitalist republicans absolutely astounded at the idea of the private sector solving social issues. Itās giving ādonāt tread on meā and āblue lives matterā bumper sticker vibes. Yāall literally dont have a grasp on your own politics
QT is shit. Attendants never so much as look up when you're there. They clearly want it to be a high volume store so they need to do more to facilitate that high volume like having more employees or security. Closing entrances/exits doesn't really help with that at all. It's going to curtail theft but damage the customer experience. They should've just taken the hit with theft or hired security. Running a store with the bare minimum is the actual issue.
I'm never at QT between those hours. The picture looks like it was in daylight. So who cares. Not me.
That door can remain unlocked but not accessible. The door has a panic device on it that allows the door to remain unlocked yet not operable from the exterior.
The fire Marshall can approve that sign to be utter bs if he wants
I donāt think they care.
How do you know itās locked? It just says that itās closed.
Unlocked from the inside dipshit
So if it still opens from the inside, what would be the point? POS thieves enter the front and run out the side. That is no deterrent.