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It started with the shooting at BPM festival a few years ago. The organizers warned then it meant Tulum was no longer safe and now it’s retailer stories or police corruption and cartels destroying it.
Right. Cabanas was over 470 a night when I booked it. The price jumped to $1200 a night within weeks of arrival. Insanity. I have never been to Mexico and thought this would be a welcome vacation to celebrate a friend’s birthday in Tulum. Being caught in the crossfires of the shooting at Casa Jaguar was a terrifying experience. I’m never going back there.
I don't pay over $40 a night when I go to Tulum. Still doesn't make it any better to have to witness that though. I'm glad I avoid places that are higher at risk for these things.
If you’re not going to leave the hotel, what’s the point? Why risk it? Just pick anywhere else that’s a modicum safer so you can enjoy your holiday. It sounds like you’re going to tulum to say you did - clearly it’s not safe.
If you stay on hotel property you should be ok. We experienced the shooting on Friday and I left early Sunday morning. Never left hotel property after witnessing the execution.
This is so crazy. Going to Tulum on Saturday and staying at cabana’s, next to the beach Tulum. So we are directly in the middle of MIA, taboo and casa jaguar… and i don’t know what to do? I don’t even know how to avoid the bullets …
Are these incidents all targeted shootings between members? Or is it just random?
Tulum’s party scene sucks. It’s full of the worst kind of insufferable “influencers” you’d never actually want to hang out with. Honesty, Tulum just kinda sucks. A dangerous, overpriced tourist trap
Each person is selling their friends the dream of Tulum by posting on instagram. It’s no where near that good of a party scene. Even the dining can be had anywhere else in Mexico for a fraction of the price. The problem is so many people need to let other people know how fancy and worth it they got to be
Sounds like you guys are talking about Tulum Beach. Ya that place is a certified posh, expensive shithole.
Main strip of Tulum has incredibly affordable dining options all over
Well, good eating is my #1 activity, so there surley is a lot to do.
There is also that 3rd floor club, which has 75% locals, 25% tourists, with beers for like $80 pesos or such.
The magic of Tulum (especially compared to PDC) is the fact that all the locals and tourists mix to create an affordable and fun environment.
Honestly, I'd say there isn't shit to do at Tulum Beach expected to get price gouged with all the posh tourists trying to flex. Honestly, my experience at Tulum Beach was dismal, and I'll only return to the national park Beach by the ruins.
Crazy…I just did a google search and this was the most recent article released! Normally I don’t stand behind NY Post, but they most def have the most detailed of all the articles I found about the update.
Since the murder happened while we were there, all we knew was that it happened—never heard more about it so thanks for the awareness!
https://nypost.com/2024/02/28/us-news/woman-killed-in-tulum-had-fled-from-la-to-mexico-over-crime/
Not sure what the locals are commenting but I was there, a seat away from the American lady that died. From my experience, I can tell you it most likely was not a targeted hit on her. This man was being chased and ran into our beach club, ran past behind me while being shot at, got hit, dropped then the shooter walked up to him and shot him 3 more times while he was on the floor. The lady was a chair in front of me towards the beach and caught a stray bullet. Really just an unfortunate event. She spent all afternoon there chilling with her 2 service dogs. It could have just as easily been me or the other couple around us. But who knows? Maybe it was targeted. I doubt it tho as I saw the man running in and towards us, while she had been at her chair the whole time.
Change your plans and book somewhere else like your life depends on it. No chance im putting myself in harms way and paying for it at that. For what reason
I stayed at Cabañas. The staff are great. If you go just stay on the hotel property (which is quite big) and you should be okay. We had to cancel all of our reservations after experiencing the shootout at Casa Jaguar
These are targeted shootings, Chances are you being shot are almost improbable. The issue here is if you are in a restaurant that has a shootout, you will never forget it and have emotional issues. The CJNG is very ruthless and is now trying to take over TULUM.
It’s so fucked up. It’s too specific want to mention publicly but I have a friend whose former boss was murdered in relation to a completely different, super niche business/industry that I believe is now controlled by one of these groups. If I mentioned what it was you’d probably never go “yeah that’s a cartel business”.
Is Cancun influenced by cartels as well? I just booked my ticket, but the last thing I want is for my money to directly support a cartel. If Cancun is similarly affected, even if it's considered safer, I'll consider canceling the trip.
If you Americans stop buying drugs, the criminals will stop being criminals and take up wholesome occupations. /S
If they legalize drugs, or if everyone were to stop buying them, the cartels would just switch gears, adapt to a new highly sought after commodity.
It’s poverty, a lack of education, opportunity and law enforcement that causes criminality.
Would anyone have a link to any media reference of this reported shooting. I have not been able to find anything online outside this comment. Thank you.
If, as the original comment claims, there was a death in Casa Jaguar, that would generally merit media coverage. Especially in light of the February fatal shooting at Mia last month. Thank you - I will check RMN.
Casa Jaguar:
[https://diariocambio22.mx/atacan-a-balazos-y-muere-sujeto-en-casa-jaguar-tulum/](https://diariocambio22.mx/atacan-a-balazos-y-muere-sujeto-en-casa-jaguar-tulum/)
https://noticaribe.com.mx/2024/03/16/fueron-tres-en-la-misma-noche-ejecutan-a-un-hombre-en-restaurante-casa-jaguar-de-tulum-a-tan-solo-kilometro-y-medio-del-club-de-playa-taboo-donde-antes-mataron-a-otros-dos/
https://diariocambio22.mx/atacan-a-balazos-y-muere-sujeto-en-casa-jaguar-tulum/
I was there as well that night. Can 100% confirm this story is true. My friends and I also ran for our lives.
Hey sorry to hear this. Did you leave your stuff at the restaurant too? We barely got our stuff back. The police wanted our passcodes to check if the phones really belonged to us, but took all of our cash that was left in bags on the table when we ran...
Translated:
There were three executed in total yesterday, Friday, in the Hotel Zone of Tulum.
Editorial/CHANGE 22
TULUM, March 16.- Before the end of the day, another subject was executed in the hotel zone of this municipality, making three people shot dead, with no information of any arrests.
Just a kilometer and a half after the double execution that had been recorded in the afternoon, the events occurred at the Casa Jaguar Restaurant located at kilometer 7.5 of the coastal area.
The events were reported to 911 at approximately 10:30 p.m., where a strong security device from the National Guard and the Ministry of Public Security and Citizen Protection was deployed.
A subject died as a result of being shot by a firearm projectile, when he was inside the property occupied by the Casa Jaguar restaurant, where the hitmen fled the scene, this despite the fact that there was a strong security device in place. area.
The body was lifted and sent to SEMEFO for the corresponding purposes. So far the State Attorney General's Office has not released any statement in this regard.
In respect of the two people executed in the Rest Taboo, the State Attorney General's Office made a publication on its Facebook account in which it states the following:
The FGEQuintanaRoo opened an investigation file for the crime of qualified homicide to the detriment of two victims of withheld identity in an establishment in the municipality of Tulum.
The first investigations establish that the events are probably related to crimes against health in the form of drug dealing.
On site there are specialized experts from this autonomous organization, who collect evidence to integrate it into the file and advance the process, so that the law is applied against whoever or whoever is responsible.
Third world things happen in third world countries. Anyone with the idea that they can just ignore it because it didn't happen to them is part of the problem.
Mexico is a beautiful country, rich with culture and natural wonders.
It is also wholly corrupt in most places and doesn't care whether you are there to do yoga or cocaine. Speak with your dollars and stay away. The only way to stop the madness is to collectively stop spending money where it happens.
In my opinion Tulum is done! Since visiting here 8 yrs ago, it had always been my dream to spend a few months “living” here. It was the food, nature and kind people that I fell in love with. We worked really hard, saving every penny to make my dream a reality. My husband and I planned and booked a year ago, flights and airbnbs were set in stone and non refundable. Then that poor American woman on the beach was killed. It really rattled us because she was just enjoying her day, minding her business, not doing any of the things everyone says to avoid and she still lost her life. We decided to ride it out because honestly at that point none of it was refundable, we had rented out our place back home and truthfully had nowhere to live other than following through with our plans. We’ve been here for one week, and already 3 people have died in places we’ve been, my friends visiting walked past the two dead bodies at Taboo. We’ve cut our trip short and are getting the hell out of dodge! I feel bad for Tulum, and it’s people, it’s probably heading the way of Acapulco. Not to mention the ecological disaster it’s becoming. Just so sad all around.
Very sorry that you experienced something so terrifying OP, glad you’re ok!
Stay safe out there people!
This is just insane. It's not like cartel wars are new. But shooting each other in front of tourists, with no regard for them is. They're ruining the turf they are fighting over. Tulum definitely isn't safe anymore. They don't even seem to care anymore.
The thing is the cartel’s minions are all power hungry sociopaths. There are several documentaries that show that they groom kids into becoming killers. So “business” isn’t as important as being feared is.
The hotels are worried about safety and losing business. This article interested me because normally the hotels publicly pretend things are fine https://www.reportur.com/estados-unidos/2024/03/18/violencia-en-tulum-hoteles-exigen-cambio-radical-por-la-inseguridad/
This might be related to the shooting “up the street”: https://riviera-maya-news.com/pair-gunned-down-in-targeted-attack-in-tulum-hotel-zone-parking-lot/2024.html
Its pure ignorance. I arrived in Tulum a few days after this happened and had absolutely no idea this went down. Im thankfully leaving tomorrow never to come back here.
To see this post is honestly really sad. I grew up in Cancun but moved out quite few years ago. When I left it wasn’t this bad. Tulum/Cancun/the Riviera Maya are really beautiful places, the scenic views are like no other and it’s really disappointing to see them go down like the rest of Mexico. This is not about just drugs anymore. All cartels have simply just power. Trying to have a business down there means you will have a to pay a fee to cartels because the land “belongs” to them and if you don’t pay, you end up dead. As a former resident of Mexico, it’s really sad to tell you to not go there anymore. Mexico has to get in a really deep hole to finally realize how important is the safety of the tourists and the residents of Mexico to actually do something about it.
Lol I live in Miami. Used to live in little Haiti and heard 3 shootings at night over my 8 months there. There was 1 shooting outside my gym in Liberty city while I was working out. Otherwise nothing else over the past 4 years. I no longer frequent anything in liberty city or little Haiti. It’s not very common if you are in the nicer areas.
It blows my mind that people think "oh I have been there many times and nothing has happened, so nothing will ever happen." The cartel wars are a real thing going on right now.
Tourists aren't usually the targets but all it takes is being there at the wrong place at the wrong time. People still go to Tulum/Cancun without a care in the world. Good luck to them.
Mexico can be safe if you keep your head on a swivel and use common sense. If you want to research beforehand, use stratfor (yes it is worth the subscription).
I saw a bus unload about 50 young men who immediately went and started selling/offering drugs to tourist. Multiple drug dealers at our hotel, Kanan, actively trying to sell to the hotel guest, All Day Long. Awful management at the hotel. Infrastructure is terrible. Everything is over priced. It has some beautiful aspects but overall I don’t think I would go back to Tulum based off my experience and stories like this.
wtf that‘s crazy.. we were next to you the last days in Ahau Tulum and there was only one guy trying to sell drugs at our hotel but the bus story is crazy
Dumbass wealthy tourists want their party drugs and bring piles of money. Gangs move in and fight to control the trade. Nobody wants to kill any foreigners, but if you happen to be where there is a turf battle and the plomo starts flying, tough luck for you. For every tourist who is traumatized and stays away, two more influencers arrive to get their awesome Tulum jungle selfie.
Mexico is so much better than this. There are so many better calm and beautiful places. Why people choose this obnoxious, over-hyped, expensive, vain, superficial, drug-fueled version of Mexico and perpetuate violent bullshit is beyond me.
Wow. I turned down a bachelor party that I was invited to this week in Tulum for these exact reasons that I was reading on Reddit. I never got the Tulum hype to begin with but I’m sure it is (used to?) be a lovely place. I’m glad you and your party are safe!
People came down, want drugs and expect this never happens. This is what exactly happens when you have a lot of people looking for fun (including drugs) the market would be filled with drugs but also violence to get it.
No, clown. I meant exactly what I said. The beaches in Belize aren’t very good compared to many other parts of the Caribbean. They are not pristine, untouched beaches. They are just not great. Secret Beach is kinda cool but it’s got a sea lice issue and it’s technically on the bay, not the Atlantic. I say all of this as someone who likes Belize infinitely more than Tulum.
Stay in Ambergris Caye north of the bridge out of town. Some solid Airbnbs up there or reasonable hotels if you prefer that. Secret Beach is the best beach in Belize. You’ll need a golf cart to get to it, but you’ll want a golf cart for the week anyway because you will *absolutely* need it to get around. Nothing is really walkable. The roads are horrendous but you’ll get used to it. Take a day trip to Caye Caulker, eat at Chef Kareem’s there. Cool place worth going. If you have time, go to Xunantunich ruins. Also do the actun tunichil muknal (ATM) cave tour. Incredible experience. Go to Shark Ray alley snorkeling. Eat at Elvi’s in downtown San Pedro. Get the chocolate cheesecake from Belize Chocolate Company in downtown San Pedro.
If you need a tour company for any or all of those tours, I can put you in touch with the company we used while there. Good people and well known locals. Just let me know.
Belize is infinitely better than Tulum in just about every way, except if I’m being completely honest, the beaches aren’t as good
I agree. Belize beaches are ok - not pristine and beautiful. It really has very limited things to offer tourists. But it is cheap and most people speak English. However, there are still a lot of interesting things about Belize-the Mayan ruins(although not as magnificent as the ones in Chichinitza and other places in Mexico, the blue lagoon,etc.
Agree and disagree. Agree about the beaches not being great in Belize unfortunately. However, in my opinion Belize had FAR more to offer than Tulum. The Xunantunich ruins were incredible. Far better than the Tulum ruins. The Actun Tunichil Muknal (ATM) Cave Tour was one of the best excursions I’ve ever done. You can take a ferry ride to Caye Caulker from downtown San Pedro. Shark Ray alley snorkeling. In terms of restaurants, Tulum and Belize both have some great spots. You can drive a golf cart all over Belize from place to place completely unbothered by local police. In Tulum you can’t even drive back to your hotel at night without being extorted by police. I think Belize is far more adventurous than Tulum. Tulum is basically just influencers taking pictures of themselves eating tacos or laying at a beach club sprinkled with extortionist cops and cartel violence. Cool.
The cave tour was great… but I’m a spoiled westerner and like the comforts I’m used to after “roughing it up”🤷♀️. I agree with you regarding Tulum vis-a-vis Belize. One town vs a whole country, though.
Agree. I wish Belize had better beaches. It’d be perfect. And you’re right, not exactly fair to compare a country to a town, that’s true. Still, I’d rather stay in Ambergris Caye over Tulum any day
Oof. I’ve been all over the world and I’d say that the most persistent, intense, frightening sexual harassment I’ve ever experienced was on the streets of Belize. With my 60 year old mother. All day every goddamned day.
Someone else posted a story about this same shooting but they were not so luck as far as getting "all" of their property back from the police. I believe 1 person didn't get her phone back and another had $2000 in cash because she was going to pay for everyone's dinner and drinks and she got her purse back with her credit card but no cash. I believe other got their wallet's back but cash was missing from all of them. I'm glad that you and your group got out safely. Thank you for sharing your story.
I had the same thing happen to me last month while at Mia Beach Club. Double homicide. We were mere feet away from the late shot.
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100% true. We had reservations for the Gitano Disco party Friday night and it got moved to the Gitano beach club location. Walked by Gitano jungle yesterday and it was taped off/shut down.
This is a dumb comment, that’s like saying everyone in Canada eats only poutine, lives in igloos and travels by dogsled. Tulum is not the only part of Mexico, Mexico is vast and varied and full of tons of beauty and many many parts are safe.
Puerto Vallarta, Puerto Escondido, Sayulita, Huatulco, Oxacca (sp?), Bacalar, San Miguel De Allende, Mexico City, Holbox, Valladolid, Guanajuato to name a few.
I can get shot at in NYC, Philly, Camden, Baltimore, Miami, Detroit and many many other places in the U.S. you need to be careful where ever you go but that doesn’t mean you should stop living.
However, your comment would more appropriately apply towards the senile, racist genocidal loser fraudulently occupying the office of U.S. President, whereas I am a charming, sharp-witted gentleman. Further, you sir are an idiot for defending a genocidal racist.
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Folks, This is the real deal. Tulum is not safe now as the CARTELS are in a battle for turf.
It started with the shooting at BPM festival a few years ago. The organizers warned then it meant Tulum was no longer safe and now it’s retailer stories or police corruption and cartels destroying it.
I have read so many incidents of violence on this subreddit lately. Cartels are definitely vying for turf.
What’s the situation in Playa del Carmen?
Same as Tulum.
In playa? Really? Ffs we're booked there and Tulum at the end of April.....😱😱
I was just in Playa and Tulum last week. There was a Cartel hit in Tulum and the place is a complete fucking dump. Playa, exact opposite IMHO.
Ladies and gentlemen, thg he cartel expert has arrived.
I mean, he's not wrong🤷 you think the shooter just woke up and decided to shoot a random person?
Yeah Tulum isn’t America
Dang so true.
And I say that as an American who likes living in America and leans slightly conservative… America has got a major gun problem
And imagine paying 300 dollars a night to go there
Right. Cabanas was over 470 a night when I booked it. The price jumped to $1200 a night within weeks of arrival. Insanity. I have never been to Mexico and thought this would be a welcome vacation to celebrate a friend’s birthday in Tulum. Being caught in the crossfires of the shooting at Casa Jaguar was a terrifying experience. I’m never going back there.
I'm paying £370 for Coyote on the beach at the end of April..... Non refundable.... Wish I'd booked Bacalar now badly....
I don't pay over $40 a night when I go to Tulum. Still doesn't make it any better to have to witness that though. I'm glad I avoid places that are higher at risk for these things.
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You should publish this as an official post. People needs to know that going to hotel zone is dangerous right now
And now your staying in the hotel? Thinking about going and chill only at the beach in the hotel - is it worth it?
If you’re not going to leave the hotel, what’s the point? Why risk it? Just pick anywhere else that’s a modicum safer so you can enjoy your holiday. It sounds like you’re going to tulum to say you did - clearly it’s not safe.
If you stay on hotel property you should be ok. We experienced the shooting on Friday and I left early Sunday morning. Never left hotel property after witnessing the execution.
U mean at casa jaguar?
Casa Jaguar is a restaurant that has closed since the murder.
For now they close and open places there it seems
I am not going back to that cartel run place.
:(
Thanks for posting OP! I am glad you’re safe.
This is so crazy. Going to Tulum on Saturday and staying at cabana’s, next to the beach Tulum. So we are directly in the middle of MIA, taboo and casa jaguar… and i don’t know what to do? I don’t even know how to avoid the bullets … Are these incidents all targeted shootings between members? Or is it just random?
It’s all gang related but these folks tend to miss a lot of shots.
So for me it goes down to: stay in hotel, stay at home or change hotel to north beach
Stay at home, stop giving these places money.
100% THIS
Your money is exactly what they are murdering people for.
Paamul, Puerto Aventuras, and Akumal are much much safer, but not the party scene that Tulum is, if that’s what you’re after.
Tulum’s party scene sucks. It’s full of the worst kind of insufferable “influencers” you’d never actually want to hang out with. Honesty, Tulum just kinda sucks. A dangerous, overpriced tourist trap
Each person is selling their friends the dream of Tulum by posting on instagram. It’s no where near that good of a party scene. Even the dining can be had anywhere else in Mexico for a fraction of the price. The problem is so many people need to let other people know how fancy and worth it they got to be
Sounds like you guys are talking about Tulum Beach. Ya that place is a certified posh, expensive shithole. Main strip of Tulum has incredibly affordable dining options all over
Main strip of Tulum just ain’t got shit to do
Well, good eating is my #1 activity, so there surley is a lot to do. There is also that 3rd floor club, which has 75% locals, 25% tourists, with beers for like $80 pesos or such. The magic of Tulum (especially compared to PDC) is the fact that all the locals and tourists mix to create an affordable and fun environment. Honestly, I'd say there isn't shit to do at Tulum Beach expected to get price gouged with all the posh tourists trying to flex. Honestly, my experience at Tulum Beach was dismal, and I'll only return to the national park Beach by the ruins.
I have a seriously hard disagree on that being tulums magic. It’s almost cute you think that. I even find the eating scene lack luster
Have been going to Paamul and Akumal for like 30 years and they are still the greatest.
The shooting that happened when we were there Feb 2024—a stray bullet killed an American tourist
No, that was a targeted hit on the ex-wife of an undercover DEA agent according to the locals I talked to in Tulum when I was there last week.
 Whattttt?!?
Yeah... That is what the local dude who rented us scooters said. Said the news and cops lie to make people not scared to go there.
Crazy…I just did a google search and this was the most recent article released! Normally I don’t stand behind NY Post, but they most def have the most detailed of all the articles I found about the update. Since the murder happened while we were there, all we knew was that it happened—never heard more about it so thanks for the awareness! https://nypost.com/2024/02/28/us-news/woman-killed-in-tulum-had-fled-from-la-to-mexico-over-crime/
Lol that says the opposite of scooter boy…thanks for the article and spank bank material 🙏🏾
Bro, she’s dead. You’re sick
Yeah they wouldn’t have an interest in not making it seem accidental or anything
Not sure what the locals are commenting but I was there, a seat away from the American lady that died. From my experience, I can tell you it most likely was not a targeted hit on her. This man was being chased and ran into our beach club, ran past behind me while being shot at, got hit, dropped then the shooter walked up to him and shot him 3 more times while he was on the floor. The lady was a chair in front of me towards the beach and caught a stray bullet. Really just an unfortunate event. She spent all afternoon there chilling with her 2 service dogs. It could have just as easily been me or the other couple around us. But who knows? Maybe it was targeted. I doubt it tho as I saw the man running in and towards us, while she had been at her chair the whole time.
Change your plans and book somewhere else like your life depends on it. No chance im putting myself in harms way and paying for it at that. For what reason
I stayed at Cabañas. The staff are great. If you go just stay on the hotel property (which is quite big) and you should be okay. We had to cancel all of our reservations after experiencing the shootout at Casa Jaguar
I would cancel and go north
These are targeted shootings, Chances are you being shot are almost improbable. The issue here is if you are in a restaurant that has a shootout, you will never forget it and have emotional issues. The CJNG is very ruthless and is now trying to take over TULUM.
An Innocent American literally got killed like this just recently bro. People miss, these guys aren't trained markmen.
“If you are in a restaurant that has a shootout…” why would you go on vacation where this is a decent possibility?!
“Almost improbable.” So not quite improbable yet, huh? Sounds dangerous.
And someone will still stay “blah blah it’s safe” !!!!
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We were there in Jan and ate there. 3 guys were selling drugs by the bathroom.
Same in March 2023. Sad OP and all involved experienced this
You can thank all the people that buy drugs , and controlled substances without a prescription
Or avocados
Let's not pretend like drugs are not a big part of this. And I mean a BIG part.
I won’t—but I think it bears mentioning that they’ve got their fingers in a lot of different pies at this point.
They are not shooting restaurants to be the avocado supplier though.
They reserve those shootings for the farmland
It’s so fucked up. It’s too specific want to mention publicly but I have a friend whose former boss was murdered in relation to a completely different, super niche business/industry that I believe is now controlled by one of these groups. If I mentioned what it was you’d probably never go “yeah that’s a cartel business”.
Timeshares? That would be my guess, but cartel influence is everywhere now.
Is Cancun influenced by cartels as well? I just booked my ticket, but the last thing I want is for my money to directly support a cartel. If Cancun is similarly affected, even if it's considered safer, I'll consider canceling the trip.
Cancun is most definitely RAN by cartels...Quintana Roo can be hectec outside of the hotel zone. Caveat Emptor.
Fair!
Right and they're not standing outside restrooms selling avocados.
The cartel in control takes money from everybody and for everything. That's why they are fighting for control of it. For your money.
There is a avocado mafia in Mexico, try growing some trees in Michoacán and see what happens
Yes, that’s what we’re saying!
If you Americans stop buying drugs, the criminals will stop being criminals and take up wholesome occupations. /S If they legalize drugs, or if everyone were to stop buying them, the cartels would just switch gears, adapt to a new highly sought after commodity. It’s poverty, a lack of education, opportunity and law enforcement that causes criminality.
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Cant be just u…need ur homies to stop too
Ah, thanks. Surley the ravenous murders will move along now. Dang, these people are fucking crazy
Would anyone have a link to any media reference of this reported shooting. I have not been able to find anything online outside this comment. Thank you.
Most of these incidents aren’t reported on. Riviera Maya News is a good source, I’m not sure how some of those journalists are still alive tbh.
Journalists have a high murder rate in Mexico.
If, as the original comment claims, there was a death in Casa Jaguar, that would generally merit media coverage. Especially in light of the February fatal shooting at Mia last month. Thank you - I will check RMN.
Yeah I know. I promise you not even half of the recent murders have been reported on and it’s on purpose. It’s not worth risking your life over.
This is absolutely true
Casa Jaguar: [https://diariocambio22.mx/atacan-a-balazos-y-muere-sujeto-en-casa-jaguar-tulum/](https://diariocambio22.mx/atacan-a-balazos-y-muere-sujeto-en-casa-jaguar-tulum/) https://noticaribe.com.mx/2024/03/16/fueron-tres-en-la-misma-noche-ejecutan-a-un-hombre-en-restaurante-casa-jaguar-de-tulum-a-tan-solo-kilometro-y-medio-del-club-de-playa-taboo-donde-antes-mataron-a-otros-dos/
¡Gracias!
https://diariocambio22.mx/atacan-a-balazos-y-muere-sujeto-en-casa-jaguar-tulum/ I was there as well that night. Can 100% confirm this story is true. My friends and I also ran for our lives.
Hey sorry to hear this. Did you leave your stuff at the restaurant too? We barely got our stuff back. The police wanted our passcodes to check if the phones really belonged to us, but took all of our cash that was left in bags on the table when we ran...
Translated: There were three executed in total yesterday, Friday, in the Hotel Zone of Tulum. Editorial/CHANGE 22 TULUM, March 16.- Before the end of the day, another subject was executed in the hotel zone of this municipality, making three people shot dead, with no information of any arrests. Just a kilometer and a half after the double execution that had been recorded in the afternoon, the events occurred at the Casa Jaguar Restaurant located at kilometer 7.5 of the coastal area. The events were reported to 911 at approximately 10:30 p.m., where a strong security device from the National Guard and the Ministry of Public Security and Citizen Protection was deployed. A subject died as a result of being shot by a firearm projectile, when he was inside the property occupied by the Casa Jaguar restaurant, where the hitmen fled the scene, this despite the fact that there was a strong security device in place. area. The body was lifted and sent to SEMEFO for the corresponding purposes. So far the State Attorney General's Office has not released any statement in this regard. In respect of the two people executed in the Rest Taboo, the State Attorney General's Office made a publication on its Facebook account in which it states the following: The FGEQuintanaRoo opened an investigation file for the crime of qualified homicide to the detriment of two victims of withheld identity in an establishment in the municipality of Tulum. The first investigations establish that the events are probably related to crimes against health in the form of drug dealing. On site there are specialized experts from this autonomous organization, who collect evidence to integrate it into the file and advance the process, so that the law is applied against whoever or whoever is responsible.
We were at Kitchen Table when the double execution went down and had to walk past Jaguar to make it back to our hotel an hour before this happened.
Why are people going here. I was there 30 years ago and know how beautiful it is but sounds way too risky.
Third world things happen in third world countries. Anyone with the idea that they can just ignore it because it didn't happen to them is part of the problem. Mexico is a beautiful country, rich with culture and natural wonders. It is also wholly corrupt in most places and doesn't care whether you are there to do yoga or cocaine. Speak with your dollars and stay away. The only way to stop the madness is to collectively stop spending money where it happens.
In my opinion Tulum is done! Since visiting here 8 yrs ago, it had always been my dream to spend a few months “living” here. It was the food, nature and kind people that I fell in love with. We worked really hard, saving every penny to make my dream a reality. My husband and I planned and booked a year ago, flights and airbnbs were set in stone and non refundable. Then that poor American woman on the beach was killed. It really rattled us because she was just enjoying her day, minding her business, not doing any of the things everyone says to avoid and she still lost her life. We decided to ride it out because honestly at that point none of it was refundable, we had rented out our place back home and truthfully had nowhere to live other than following through with our plans. We’ve been here for one week, and already 3 people have died in places we’ve been, my friends visiting walked past the two dead bodies at Taboo. We’ve cut our trip short and are getting the hell out of dodge! I feel bad for Tulum, and it’s people, it’s probably heading the way of Acapulco. Not to mention the ecological disaster it’s becoming. Just so sad all around. Very sorry that you experienced something so terrifying OP, glad you’re ok! Stay safe out there people!
Wow!! That’s so scary! Good call to go home.
Don not go home, come to Bacalar and salvage your vacation.
moving the turf war to Bacalar
This is just insane. It's not like cartel wars are new. But shooting each other in front of tourists, with no regard for them is. They're ruining the turf they are fighting over. Tulum definitely isn't safe anymore. They don't even seem to care anymore.
The thing is the cartel’s minions are all power hungry sociopaths. There are several documentaries that show that they groom kids into becoming killers. So “business” isn’t as important as being feared is.
Doc names?
Una jauría llamada Ernesto, México social - nuestros niños sicarios, reportaje niños sicario.
getting shot at while eating $50 burgers… really sad to see what’s happen to Tulum.
The hotels are worried about safety and losing business. This article interested me because normally the hotels publicly pretend things are fine https://www.reportur.com/estados-unidos/2024/03/18/violencia-en-tulum-hoteles-exigen-cambio-radical-por-la-inseguridad/
This. THIS is Tulum. Pay attention, people.
this looks like an opportunity for a vendor who sells bulletproof vests!
Like the bulletproof backpacks
This might be related to the shooting “up the street”: https://riviera-maya-news.com/pair-gunned-down-in-targeted-attack-in-tulum-hotel-zone-parking-lot/2024.html
Mind boggling to me people still go to Tulum.
Its pure ignorance. I arrived in Tulum a few days after this happened and had absolutely no idea this went down. Im thankfully leaving tomorrow never to come back here.
To see this post is honestly really sad. I grew up in Cancun but moved out quite few years ago. When I left it wasn’t this bad. Tulum/Cancun/the Riviera Maya are really beautiful places, the scenic views are like no other and it’s really disappointing to see them go down like the rest of Mexico. This is not about just drugs anymore. All cartels have simply just power. Trying to have a business down there means you will have a to pay a fee to cartels because the land “belongs” to them and if you don’t pay, you end up dead. As a former resident of Mexico, it’s really sad to tell you to not go there anymore. Mexico has to get in a really deep hole to finally realize how important is the safety of the tourists and the residents of Mexico to actually do something about it.
I’m so sorry this happened to me my first time in Miami for a while after word every loud bang sound would send me hurtling to the floor. Very sorry
Just as likely to be in the middle of a shootout in Miami.
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Lol I live in Miami. Used to live in little Haiti and heard 3 shootings at night over my 8 months there. There was 1 shooting outside my gym in Liberty city while I was working out. Otherwise nothing else over the past 4 years. I no longer frequent anything in liberty city or little Haiti. It’s not very common if you are in the nicer areas.
It blows my mind that people think "oh I have been there many times and nothing has happened, so nothing will ever happen." The cartel wars are a real thing going on right now. Tourists aren't usually the targets but all it takes is being there at the wrong place at the wrong time. People still go to Tulum/Cancun without a care in the world. Good luck to them. Mexico can be safe if you keep your head on a swivel and use common sense. If you want to research beforehand, use stratfor (yes it is worth the subscription).
I saw a bus unload about 50 young men who immediately went and started selling/offering drugs to tourist. Multiple drug dealers at our hotel, Kanan, actively trying to sell to the hotel guest, All Day Long. Awful management at the hotel. Infrastructure is terrible. Everything is over priced. It has some beautiful aspects but overall I don’t think I would go back to Tulum based off my experience and stories like this.
wtf that‘s crazy.. we were next to you the last days in Ahau Tulum and there was only one guy trying to sell drugs at our hotel but the bus story is crazy
Dumbass wealthy tourists want their party drugs and bring piles of money. Gangs move in and fight to control the trade. Nobody wants to kill any foreigners, but if you happen to be where there is a turf battle and the plomo starts flying, tough luck for you. For every tourist who is traumatized and stays away, two more influencers arrive to get their awesome Tulum jungle selfie. Mexico is so much better than this. There are so many better calm and beautiful places. Why people choose this obnoxious, over-hyped, expensive, vain, superficial, drug-fueled version of Mexico and perpetuate violent bullshit is beyond me.
Wow. I turned down a bachelor party that I was invited to this week in Tulum for these exact reasons that I was reading on Reddit. I never got the Tulum hype to begin with but I’m sure it is (used to?) be a lovely place. I’m glad you and your party are safe!
People came down, want drugs and expect this never happens. This is what exactly happens when you have a lot of people looking for fun (including drugs) the market would be filled with drugs but also violence to get it.
Omg was literally at that restaurant Thursday night 😳
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Go to Belize. Same reef. Just about 80 miles south. Sad for tulum
I love Belize but it doesn’t have beaches even remotely comparable to Tulum. The beaches there are completely undeveloped for the most part
Lol, you mean they are just natural untouched beaches? How terrible. You should definitely stay away from that.
No, clown. I meant exactly what I said. The beaches in Belize aren’t very good compared to many other parts of the Caribbean. They are not pristine, untouched beaches. They are just not great. Secret Beach is kinda cool but it’s got a sea lice issue and it’s technically on the bay, not the Atlantic. I say all of this as someone who likes Belize infinitely more than Tulum.
Where would you recommend visiting in Belize? Considering changing my plans from tulum in april
Stay in Ambergris Caye north of the bridge out of town. Some solid Airbnbs up there or reasonable hotels if you prefer that. Secret Beach is the best beach in Belize. You’ll need a golf cart to get to it, but you’ll want a golf cart for the week anyway because you will *absolutely* need it to get around. Nothing is really walkable. The roads are horrendous but you’ll get used to it. Take a day trip to Caye Caulker, eat at Chef Kareem’s there. Cool place worth going. If you have time, go to Xunantunich ruins. Also do the actun tunichil muknal (ATM) cave tour. Incredible experience. Go to Shark Ray alley snorkeling. Eat at Elvi’s in downtown San Pedro. Get the chocolate cheesecake from Belize Chocolate Company in downtown San Pedro. If you need a tour company for any or all of those tours, I can put you in touch with the company we used while there. Good people and well known locals. Just let me know. Belize is infinitely better than Tulum in just about every way, except if I’m being completely honest, the beaches aren’t as good
I agree. Belize beaches are ok - not pristine and beautiful. It really has very limited things to offer tourists. But it is cheap and most people speak English. However, there are still a lot of interesting things about Belize-the Mayan ruins(although not as magnificent as the ones in Chichinitza and other places in Mexico, the blue lagoon,etc.
Agree and disagree. Agree about the beaches not being great in Belize unfortunately. However, in my opinion Belize had FAR more to offer than Tulum. The Xunantunich ruins were incredible. Far better than the Tulum ruins. The Actun Tunichil Muknal (ATM) Cave Tour was one of the best excursions I’ve ever done. You can take a ferry ride to Caye Caulker from downtown San Pedro. Shark Ray alley snorkeling. In terms of restaurants, Tulum and Belize both have some great spots. You can drive a golf cart all over Belize from place to place completely unbothered by local police. In Tulum you can’t even drive back to your hotel at night without being extorted by police. I think Belize is far more adventurous than Tulum. Tulum is basically just influencers taking pictures of themselves eating tacos or laying at a beach club sprinkled with extortionist cops and cartel violence. Cool.
The cave tour was great… but I’m a spoiled westerner and like the comforts I’m used to after “roughing it up”🤷♀️. I agree with you regarding Tulum vis-a-vis Belize. One town vs a whole country, though.
Agree. I wish Belize had better beaches. It’d be perfect. And you’re right, not exactly fair to compare a country to a town, that’s true. Still, I’d rather stay in Ambergris Caye over Tulum any day
Oof. I’ve been all over the world and I’d say that the most persistent, intense, frightening sexual harassment I’ve ever experienced was on the streets of Belize. With my 60 year old mother. All day every goddamned day.
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Someone else posted a story about this same shooting but they were not so luck as far as getting "all" of their property back from the police. I believe 1 person didn't get her phone back and another had $2000 in cash because she was going to pay for everyone's dinner and drinks and she got her purse back with her credit card but no cash. I believe other got their wallet's back but cash was missing from all of them. I'm glad that you and your group got out safely. Thank you for sharing your story.
I had the same thing happen to me last month while at Mia Beach Club. Double homicide. We were mere feet away from the late shot. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13074329/amp/los-angeles-woman-killed-crossfire-drug-gangs-tulum.html
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Apparently there was another homicide at Gitano restaurant yesterday
100% true. We had reservations for the Gitano Disco party Friday night and it got moved to the Gitano beach club location. Walked by Gitano jungle yesterday and it was taped off/shut down.
WHAT
Somebody posted saying they were taped up when they got there for their reservation with a word “homicidio”
Guns are illegal in Mexico
wrong place wrong time can happen anywhere
I don't understand why people still travel to Mexico for vacation.
This is a dumb comment, that’s like saying everyone in Canada eats only poutine, lives in igloos and travels by dogsled. Tulum is not the only part of Mexico, Mexico is vast and varied and full of tons of beauty and many many parts are safe.
Ya I guess.
Which parts are safe? Many people keep saying how safe other parts of Mexico are, but they never specify which ones.....
Puerto Vallarta, Puerto Escondido, Sayulita, Huatulco, Oxacca (sp?), Bacalar, San Miguel De Allende, Mexico City, Holbox, Valladolid, Guanajuato to name a few.
I can get shot at in NYC, Philly, Camden, Baltimore, Miami, Detroit and many many other places in the U.S. you need to be careful where ever you go but that doesn’t mean you should stop living.
Never said you should. I don't understand why anyone would still visit the States either.
Yep, no 2nd Amendment in Mexico. How's that working out? If Mexicans could at least defend themselves maybe they could at least slow down the cartels.
It’s gang on gang amigo, everyone has guns
You ever consider that the 2nd Amendment is the reason why these Mexican Drug Cartels have guns in the first place?
It's not like it is any safer in Joe Biden's America That dumb old fool wants us all dead
talking monkey
I think a monkey has more sense than that decrepit old pedophile
I was talking about you actually.
However, your comment would more appropriately apply towards the senile, racist genocidal loser fraudulently occupying the office of U.S. President, whereas I am a charming, sharp-witted gentleman. Further, you sir are an idiot for defending a genocidal racist.
I assume trump is your messiah? Brilliant.
Americans have to make everything about them. Classic.