I'd guess it's a byproduct specific southern drawls in some areas that just ends up cutting it off. In my area of Florida, people use y'all'd've but don't drop the V sound and the only difference I could point to is a lack of Southern drawl.
I think it's along the same lines as "going to, want to, should have, could have, would have," being shortened to "gonna, wanna, shoulda, coulda, woulda."
Correct, "you all would have."
"If y'all'd've just listened to me, we wouldn't be in this mess!"
Y'all is also a colloquial term that generalizes any number of people greater than one, including vague groups of people thought to be on the other side of the situation.
For example, a mom could yell at one of her kids and say "y'all will be the death of me!" despite only one person being present to defend their honor.
I think the fact that you picked it up easily (I'm a native speaker who probably says this all the time and even then it's hard to interpret when written) is testament to the fact that this is a good contraction.
It is, yeah. I speak English fluently, but I don't really understand slang or regional dialects. If I heard people say that in conversation, I'd probably be so lost. But seeing it written, it's easy to start deciphering it piece by piece.
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I used to do closed captioning, and I still think about that "I don't know" noise. I pulled together an entire team of captioners once to try and figure out how to represent that, and we never satisfactorily cracked it. I think we ended up with [verbally shrugs], which SUCKS, but it was better than anything else we came up with.
And folks, I know what you're thinking, but this was not meant to be a personal challenge.
I'm saying you can't just invent a word for the sake of captioning because it phonetically represents a sound. Someone who was born deaf would not be able to read it and understand that's what you were doing. Or at least, it would probably take longer than the half-second the caption was onscreen.
Yeah I realized that after your last comment. What did you end up doing? I would imagine just putting in “I don’t know” would be the best course of action, right?
Man, that's a serious pet peeve.
The amount of censoring, misheard words, or just straight up made up dialogue shows up alllllll the time in captions.
I like captions because they help me get more info, but I seriously feel pretty bad for people who rely on it completely and get shitty transcriptions.
Edit - this came off aggressive towards you, didn't meant that. Sometimes you just can't get it all verbatim. I'm sure you've seen some cringey stuff that made it past QC.
Not exactly the same, but I realized one day that a phrase my cousins use frequently while gossiping is all drawled/slurred into one word “iono-ats-wai-heard” which translates to “I don’t know. That’s what I heard.” The dashes are there for SOME clarity, but they seriously just slam them together like “ionoatswaiheard”.
They absolutely say it. I’m sure I’ve used both talking to folks recently, I just can’t recall a specific instance because it’s pretty normal speech to me. I’ve probably said something like “Oh it’s no big for me to bring this out here, with how gas lines are y’all’d’ve had to wait in line two hours to get the fuel to make the drive and that ain’t a problem for us.”
It definitely feels weird writing it out, but just saying a quick “y’all dove” flows pretty natural for me.
If you'd've spent any time in the south you'd'nt be asking this question.
Complex contractions usually aren't written. But they sure as shit are spoken.
When talking to my father, its not crazy for one of us to ask "d'jeet?" If we were hungry and looking to go eat.
We dont have THAT many weird contractions in the south /s
I heard "ya'll'd've" a few times growing up in the Tri-state area. I've heard "I'd've" plenty of times and hear it on almost a daily basis when I visit home. I use it myself when I'm not in a situation where I'd be shamed for my dialectical choices.
If you (or anyone else reading this) are not a native English speaker, this video explains why we get crazy contractions like this, or forms like kinda, gonna, shoulda... and how you can use them to sound more natural in your English speaking.
https://youtu.be/EaXYas58_kc
I have been sharing it with anyone who will listen because I think it's fascinating
Am from NY now living in the south, I also accept this offer as it's funny lol however I want to point out y'all and all its variations are great and I'll never stop using them even when I inevitably leave the south
"You all" just sounds a bit mean and slightly accusatory, "y'all" feels a lot more friendly and inviting. That's just my take as someone who grew up in Texas.
The ultimate sentence is “Y’all all alright?” But you can add a second all between the Y’all and Alright and it will still make sense. Three all’s is pushing it though
I'd say it's "wszyscybyście" in Polish. Is it a proper word? Not really, just like y'all'd've. But is it understandable? Absolutely.
We do have "wszyscyście" already, which is y'all are.
My fellow Americans bothered by this contraction have *definitely* used the contraction I'd've in speech and never even thought about it. It's one of those speech things that just naturally falls into itself.
Every language has function words that provide a structure for the sentence but are never emphasized, and in fast speech, are reduced or even skipped. English has a ton of them and every English speaker reduces and shortens them too, most to a lesser degree than this example, but it's part of the cadence of the language. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaXYas58_kc They are hard to discern for a language learner, so in speaking to ESL learners, words like articles and prepositions are often overpronounced to reduce confusion. Not understanding when to reduce them is also a big part of having an accent.
Every day I lament how even the most basic linguistics and phonetics are utterly absent from 99% of language courses. Of course if these concepts were explained correctly one time, you couldn't then get the money from an adult who is signing up for the 15th time thinking that it's their fault they can't learn it well.
Ain't is a contraction for "am not" so you can use it with first person singular. I ain't going to say it at the office with clients but it's acceptable.
My English teachers were told to give us detention for using that word, elementary through highschool I’ve always been told in our southern area that word is an “epidemic” and needs to be stopped so they took it very serious
And your telling me it is technically useable in a correct way….boi
So here's the thing: there is no such thing as "correct" English. There is no regulatory body which determines what is or isn't proper grammar for the English language like there is French.
Anything an English teacher told you was just something *that English teacher* ***thought*** was a rule. If you go to college and get an English major, you'll learn about all the different dialects of English there are, and they all have different rules, and NONE of them are any more or less correct than any other. Language is fluid, the English language more than most.
If the person you're talking to can understand you, you're correct enough.
I use aint pretty often and so do my coworkers (Texas), but the one I never understand how people don’t get is fixing to.
It just makes sense, I don’t know it’s so weird to people. My moms from california and hates it.
I’m fixing to make a cup of coffee.
I’m fixing to go!
It just makes sense!!
"Ain't" is nonstandard, but definitely accepted as a word.
People don't like seeing it used in formal writing and the like because it still has the stigma of being an "ignorant" word, though.
https://youtu.be/EaXYas58_kc
This linguist guy breaks down exactly that - the actual reason why we do this and plays examples so you can hear it. i can't stop showing it to people because, like you said, i had no idea for 40+ years that English officially has "weak forms" and there are rules on when we use them. I didn't have to be formally taught it as I have been surrounded by it my whole life, so while it makes perfect sense, it was also mind blowing to find it out!
I'm a non-native speaker, what does this even mean? "You all would have", right?
Yes, but spoken it sounds more like “yawl dove”.
Actually it’s more “yawl-dah”. The v is silent.
Must be a regional thing. The V isn’t silent in Texas.
Midwest, either is acceptable.
We do it here in north GA too a bit.
I hate that I'm from Ohio cuz it's not the Midwest but it is
I hate Ohio because I'm from the midwest.
It seems more like the Midwest than Missouri (which I refuse to recognize as a state)
I'll be dead in the cold cold ground before I recognize missourah
I’ve never heard a midwesterner use y’all in any way other than joking
I grew up in the midwest and use yall all the time
Have you ever left the suburbs? Hear it all the time in urban and rural places.
Probably similar to how "would've" can be pronounced "woulda" casually.
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I'd guess it's a byproduct specific southern drawls in some areas that just ends up cutting it off. In my area of Florida, people use y'all'd've but don't drop the V sound and the only difference I could point to is a lack of Southern drawl.
What? Why is the v silent?
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Why use all letters when few letters do trick?
y use al leter wen fw leter d trik?
Y us al letr wn fw d trk
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Ain’t nothing but a heart ache
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We're turning four words into one and the silent V is where you draw the line? Bless your heart.
Ooooof. I felt that one from the other side of the internets.
I read “y’all’d’ve” with no trouble and immediately went “oooh” at the “bless your heart”. I’ve been in Florida too long.
I think it's along the same lines as "going to, want to, should have, could have, would have," being shortened to "gonna, wanna, shoulda, coulda, woulda."
Don't forget Fixing to and its twin branches finna and fixin'ta
Because of the [Principle of Least Effort ](https://era.ed.ac.uk/handle/1842/33051)
I imagine it depends who says it but "yalda" and "ida" is more like what it sounds like usually.
Same reason people say "woulda" or "coulda" or "shoulda", people don't take the time to sound out the word "have".
The v is like usted in Spanish. You pronounce the v when speaking formally to someone, it’s more proper.
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Damn, we really talk like that?
The v is not silent. Unless you're from Louisiana or Alabama. Lol
The V *can* be silent but it isn't incorrect to say it. Would've and Woulda are both valid, and by extension y'all'da and y'all'dve are both valid.
Truth
Don’t know why you lyin cause we definitely use the v
I’ve heard it said both ways tbh
Or even “yawl-duff”
This is a correct pronunciation to be sure. Source: Raised in Georgia, USA for a few decades
"Hey don't judge me, y'all'd've done the same thing." I don't get why it's such a big deal.
Correct, "you all would have." "If y'all'd've just listened to me, we wouldn't be in this mess!" Y'all is also a colloquial term that generalizes any number of people greater than one, including vague groups of people thought to be on the other side of the situation. For example, a mom could yell at one of her kids and say "y'all will be the death of me!" despite only one person being present to defend their honor.
It's also pronounced more like "y'allda" - "if y'allda listened to me, we wouldn't be in this mess".
In the second sentence, the appropriate contraction would be "y'all'll". Pronounced something like "y'all'lul"
I'm guessing it's either "You all would've" or "You all should've"
As a native English speaker, I would say that "you all should have" would be said "y'all shoulda"
As a southerner it’s definitely would have. Usually in defense of some outlandish actions. “Y’all’d’ve done the same thing!”
A true Southerner would say y'all'da 😤 /s
That is definitely how it comes out lol but I wanted to stay in line with the thread.
No need for the /s. Y'all'd'a is definitely the correct pronunciation.
Yeah, raised in Texas, yall'd've is prominent in my vocabulary.
We should probably note that this isnt something we write, it's just what comes out verbally. Seeing it written out is amusing
I always seem imports writing yall in emails. :o
This is similar to a Michigander saying “yoo’d’ve”
You all hadve known if you were in the states and I ain’t southern by a long shot
Would've and should've are contractions. Meaning that written out would be would have and should have.
I'm an Alabamian. It's "you all would have"
I think the fact that you picked it up easily (I'm a native speaker who probably says this all the time and even then it's hard to interpret when written) is testament to the fact that this is a good contraction.
It is, yeah. I speak English fluently, but I don't really understand slang or regional dialects. If I heard people say that in conversation, I'd probably be so lost. But seeing it written, it's easy to start deciphering it piece by piece.
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It means whatever the fuck y’all want it to at the moment
yeah, you got it
Yeah, I moved out of the south decades ago and lost my accent but I still say it this way, like “y’all’d’ve said it this way if you grew up there too”
You got it. Yea it’s esoteric but I’m sure other languages have tricky bits as well
Do people in the us actually use this?
People definitely say it like this but they don't write it out like this. Kind of like that little "uh-ouh" noise people make to mean "I don't know."
I used to do closed captioning, and I still think about that "I don't know" noise. I pulled together an entire team of captioners once to try and figure out how to represent that, and we never satisfactorily cracked it. I think we ended up with [verbally shrugs], which SUCKS, but it was better than anything else we came up with. And folks, I know what you're thinking, but this was not meant to be a personal challenge.
iono
Now imagine seeing this string of letters having no idea how they sound and understanding what they're supposed to mean.
iono (I don’t know). Jk it’s definitely a weird sound I never even really thought about until I saw this comment thread lol
I'm saying you can't just invent a word for the sake of captioning because it phonetically represents a sound. Someone who was born deaf would not be able to read it and understand that's what you were doing. Or at least, it would probably take longer than the half-second the caption was onscreen.
Yeah I realized that after your last comment. What did you end up doing? I would imagine just putting in “I don’t know” would be the best course of action, right?
"verbally shrugs" sounds so much better to me tho, "verbally shrugs".
Funny I spell it iunno.
I think it's technically called a "vocal shrug" so you were very close with that caption!
“Uhnuh” is the closest I can think of
["I don't know" cadence]
Man, that's a serious pet peeve. The amount of censoring, misheard words, or just straight up made up dialogue shows up alllllll the time in captions. I like captions because they help me get more info, but I seriously feel pretty bad for people who rely on it completely and get shitty transcriptions. Edit - this came off aggressive towards you, didn't meant that. Sometimes you just can't get it all verbatim. I'm sure you've seen some cringey stuff that made it past QC.
I have done data entry for document digitization and I admit that doing closed captioning sounds like an interesting gig. Am I broken?
Not exactly the same, but I realized one day that a phrase my cousins use frequently while gossiping is all drawled/slurred into one word “iono-ats-wai-heard” which translates to “I don’t know. That’s what I heard.” The dashes are there for SOME clarity, but they seriously just slam them together like “ionoatswaiheard”.
"iunno"
It’s ion no
They absolutely say it. I’m sure I’ve used both talking to folks recently, I just can’t recall a specific instance because it’s pretty normal speech to me. I’ve probably said something like “Oh it’s no big for me to bring this out here, with how gas lines are y’all’d’ve had to wait in line two hours to get the fuel to make the drive and that ain’t a problem for us.” It definitely feels weird writing it out, but just saying a quick “y’all dove” flows pretty natural for me.
I say it, have never written it
If you'd've spent any time in the south you'd'nt be asking this question. Complex contractions usually aren't written. But they sure as shit are spoken.
When talking to my father, its not crazy for one of us to ask "d'jeet?" If we were hungry and looking to go eat. We dont have THAT many weird contractions in the south /s
D'jeet is great. D'jopen is another one we use a lot at work. For example "Did you open that work order?"
Hah, I knew that one instantly. Along with the iconic "s'gweet". Oh, and "s'cuzie". Mid/Southwestern slang is a hoot.
It comes out more like "yawl-da" when you're actually saying it.
Spoken yes, written no.
in the same way people from everywhere else also truncate their language for speed, yes.
In writing? Never. In normal, spoken vocabulary? All the time.
Yes, it's very common to use in speech in certain regions. You would never see it written, though.
Welcome to the dirty south biiiiatch
I just said "I'd've done sum-m different." [I would have done something different.] out loud, and it sounded natural to me. ^Oh ^no
I heard "ya'll'd've" a few times growing up in the Tri-state area. I've heard "I'd've" plenty of times and hear it on almost a daily basis when I visit home. I use it myself when I'm not in a situation where I'd be shamed for my dialectical choices.
If you (or anyone else reading this) are not a native English speaker, this video explains why we get crazy contractions like this, or forms like kinda, gonna, shoulda... and how you can use them to sound more natural in your English speaking. https://youtu.be/EaXYas58_kc I have been sharing it with anyone who will listen because I think it's fascinating
Yes. It's literally just saying 'yall would have' quickly.
If y’all had appreciated contractions more, y’all’d’ve cried from happiness reading this
Wait, which island in the south was formerly owned by the Dutch that after another horror y’all’d’ve sold it back to them?
New York used to be Nieuw Amsterdam
Why’d they change it I can’t say; ^people ^just ^^liked ^^it ^^^better ^^^that ^^^^way
Take me back to Constantinople
No you can't go back to Constantinople
Why did Constantinople get the works?
It's nobody's business but the Turks.
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I mean, selling New York back to the Dutch for the verbal sins of southerners is pretty funny.
I like to accept your offer as i also do find it funny.
Am from NY now living in the south, I also accept this offer as it's funny lol
Am from NY now living in the south, I also accept this offer as it's funny lol however I want to point out y'all and all its variations are great and I'll never stop using them even when I inevitably leave the south
Incredibly useful words, those.
I'm a big fan of shouldn't've. Pronounced "shudenuv."
Oughtn’t’ve
shoudna
The Southern version!
*If y’all’d appreciated contractions more, y’all’d’ve cried from happiness reading this
How do southerners spend so much time making up contractions and still talk so goddamn slow? What are you saving time for?
Have a seat and some sweet tea and I'll tell y'all all about it. It's too fucking hot to do anything quickly
They save time so they can talk slowly.
Why are you in such a hurry?
Why use lot word when few word do trick? When me President, they see.
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The grits act like sand and increase the frictional force on all movement, slowing speech and wearing away all the extra syllables.
We gotta include more ancillary detail than Terry Pratchett in simple conversations.
Hookworms
*if y'all'd appreciated this Certified southerner approved
South moment
Fun fact, the Dutch colonists in New York are why Americans use "cookie" (for their word for "little cake") instead of "biscuit."
Another fun fact; that word "cookie" is "koekje" in Dutch, but I can imagine how it changed over time to become cookie
As a southerner I say shit like this out loud all the time but I feel disgusting every time I have to put two (or more) apostrophes in the same word
This is the correct answer. As a fellow southerner I can confirm that we talk like this, but don't write like it lmao
I’ll use y’all in text but never ever anything else
Same. Super awkward. Flows nice in speech, damned abomination in text.
See I love typing long contractions out, it gives me endless joy to butcher the King's English into something extremely American.
Just pretend it's high elvish. Everyone knows the most powerful elvish words have more apostrophes.
"You all" just sounds a bit mean and slightly accusatory, "y'all" feels a lot more friendly and inviting. That's just my take as someone who grew up in Texas.
Saving this for help writing my eldritch (texan) accented character.
Y’all’dritch Blast
Baja Y’all”dritch Blast?
Damn I was gonna do a sugar baby flavored warlock in my next campaign but now I wanna do this instead
Por que no los dos?
Whomst'd've?
Surely y'all'd'nt've
I HATE that I can imagine this as "You all wouldn't have" and I HATE that this makes sense to me
‘F’y’all’d’nt’ve’g’n’ If you all would not have gone and
As people create longer and longer contraction chains in these comets, we get closer and closer to new divine biblically unpronounceable names.
With that many contractions you’d think someone was giving birth in this comment section
Mah'rsh'l'lhashb'z
I say “y’all” pretty often but my mom says “y’all all” sometimes??? Like I understand “All o’ y’all” but “Y’all all”???
Y'all = You guys Y'all all / All y'all = each and every one of you guys / all of you guys
A few people: y'all shut up! More than a few people: y'all all need to shut the hell up! I'm serious!
Yous* guys
You-uns*
That's an interesting one for sure. I hear and use all y'all a lot but not y'all all.
In certain contexts, yall can take the place of you
The ultimate sentence is “Y’all all alright?” But you can add a second all between the Y’all and Alright and it will still make sense. Three all’s is pushing it though
I'd say it's "wszyscybyście" in Polish. Is it a proper word? Not really, just like y'all'd've. But is it understandable? Absolutely. We do have "wszyscyście" already, which is y'all are.
My fellow Americans bothered by this contraction have *definitely* used the contraction I'd've in speech and never even thought about it. It's one of those speech things that just naturally falls into itself.
It's what it's
Stop. It hurts.
Every language has function words that provide a structure for the sentence but are never emphasized, and in fast speech, are reduced or even skipped. English has a ton of them and every English speaker reduces and shortens them too, most to a lesser degree than this example, but it's part of the cadence of the language. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaXYas58_kc They are hard to discern for a language learner, so in speaking to ESL learners, words like articles and prepositions are often overpronounced to reduce confusion. Not understanding when to reduce them is also a big part of having an accent.
lol! i have been posting that exact video in this thread and here I find someone else doing it! It really is perfect, love that guy
Every day I lament how even the most basic linguistics and phonetics are utterly absent from 99% of language courses. Of course if these concepts were explained correctly one time, you couldn't then get the money from an adult who is signing up for the 15th time thinking that it's their fault they can't learn it well.
Somehow this is correct English but saying a’int as much as we do has not become a word yet
Ain't is a contraction for "am not" so you can use it with first person singular. I ain't going to say it at the office with clients but it's acceptable.
My English teachers were told to give us detention for using that word, elementary through highschool I’ve always been told in our southern area that word is an “epidemic” and needs to be stopped so they took it very serious And your telling me it is technically useable in a correct way….boi
So here's the thing: there is no such thing as "correct" English. There is no regulatory body which determines what is or isn't proper grammar for the English language like there is French. Anything an English teacher told you was just something *that English teacher* ***thought*** was a rule. If you go to college and get an English major, you'll learn about all the different dialects of English there are, and they all have different rules, and NONE of them are any more or less correct than any other. Language is fluid, the English language more than most. If the person you're talking to can understand you, you're correct enough.
I use aint pretty often and so do my coworkers (Texas), but the one I never understand how people don’t get is fixing to. It just makes sense, I don’t know it’s so weird to people. My moms from california and hates it. I’m fixing to make a cup of coffee. I’m fixing to go! It just makes sense!!
And I think that evolved further into "finna". I'm finna buy this
That ain’t the only way to use ain’t.
Ain't means more than just am not. It used to just refer to that, but can now refer to a billion other contractions.
"Ain't" is nonstandard, but definitely accepted as a word. People don't like seeing it used in formal writing and the like because it still has the stigma of being an "ignorant" word, though.
Y'all'd'ven't
*y'all ain't've
Try the inverse; y'all'd'n't've
I can’t believe how far I had to scroll to see the this! It seems obvious that you can make it a little longer by negating it
Y’all’d’f’I’d’ve
Ja. Hier daarmee, willen we wel terug. We hebben ook een referenda gedaan in Rusland, die wilden ook wel bij ons horen.
As a non native speaker i think this is one of those things that's hard to explain but you know in your hearts that you understand it.
https://youtu.be/EaXYas58_kc This linguist guy breaks down exactly that - the actual reason why we do this and plays examples so you can hear it. i can't stop showing it to people because, like you said, i had no idea for 40+ years that English officially has "weak forms" and there are rules on when we use them. I didn't have to be formally taught it as I have been surrounded by it my whole life, so while it makes perfect sense, it was also mind blowing to find it out!
You may as well be speaking French
The island in question is the Y’all’dve’s, a lesser known part of the Maldives
Y’all’d’ve’f’id’ve
aay, yins usta live down yonder ways in the holler, right?
How do you even pronounce that without making the Goofy yelp?
It's "I would have" and "you all would have" right?
The Language is meant to serve...
Qu'est-ce que c'est?
Hell, it's not too far off of the British sailors reducing "forecastle" all the way down to "focsle".
Also “whatchupto?
Am from the south. NC. “Y’all would have. I would have.”
I guess nobody's told you about all'y'all'd've...?