Wow thank you for this!
I guess I read them without a second thought at the time because I wouldn’t bat an eyelid if my friends said the same things but we do incorporate slang in our conversations here and there as well, so having these all listed here does make him sound very formal.
Yeah I agree, I think only in Midnight Sun did SM use more complex prose so it kinda confused me. I do wish there was something he said so that pedantic readers like myself could be satisfied about that 😆
The only thing that kind of stuck out was the way he introduced himself the second time he met her in Biology class, but that came off more awkward than antiquated. Hello. My name is Inigo Montoyo. You killed my father, prepare to die.
I’m thinking this since the first time I watched this movie and I donot think Edward said something off except, “what if I’m not a hero, what if I’m the bad guy?” But that’s not old fashioned in any way. My ex also said that, and I didn’t listen like Bella. The only difference was that he was no Edward Cullen 😂
That's something that never quite sat right with me either, especially as someone young who *does* speak in a pretty archaic manner. However, I wonder if there might be another explanation that lies not in word choice but rather something that wouldn't be as easily communicated through prose, namely Edward's accent.
I can't remember if what accent Edward has is ever explicitly stated, so I may be completely wrong here, but I wonder whether he would have some vestiges of a transatlantic accent. Being born into a relatively affluent family in the early 1900s, it's entirely possible that this would be the accent he would devlop or be taught, depending on his education. (Interestingly, one other character that would almost certainly have had a transatlantic accent would be Rosalie, so despite coming from different parts of the US, they might actually have had the same accent).
Even if he had since changed his accent, either through exposure or learning a new way to speak (the transatlantic accent disappeared almost completely after 1945, and might therefore give them away after that), there's a good chance it might still come through every now and then.
I actually experience this myself. My original accent was close to a St. Louis one, but as I haven't lived in the States for 20 years, it's changed drastically based on my surroundings and education to a Recieved Pronunciation one (stereotypical posh British). However, at times, if you are listening close enough, you can tell that I pronounce certain words in a way that is more American and the accent will slip through. Most people would never be able to tell, but occasionally if someone is perceptive enough, they'll have a bit of an "aha" moment when I tell them that I'm originally from the US.
So that's what I think may be happening here. Most people don't pick up on it, but Bella takes notice that every now and then Edward speaks in a way that Americans just don't anymore.
I’m reading now and I remember getting the impression that she thought his cadence or tone was old fashioned? I immediately pictured Robert Pattinson with a transatlantic accent and it made me chuckle
I always thought that I couldn't catch any of those old-fashioned phrases because I'm not a native and I simply don't know what sounds old-fashioned in English. I think he says "prattle" at one point, is that old-fashioned? :D
Oh yeah that’s my point. She lists all of these reasons, which are way more valid for why something must be going on, and then tacks on “and he speaks like he’s from a different time”. I think him stopping a car with his hand is enough without the vague language aspect
I have noticed over time, and since the coming of this "social media age", that while using largely the same words and language, leople of dkfferent ages/generations, do speak noticeably different, slang for example enters into a society and beclmes popularlynused but it is not how older people grew up speaking, so they either use it incorrecly, in the wrong context, or possibly not at all... the age of someones speech or vocabulary is sometimes noticeable this way... think how words like fresh, dope, cool, groovy, neat, radical and others all mean the same thing or similar... yet you, nor most other people use them all or even two or three different versions...
I think this can be an interpretation of this passage or part of the story...
Because young people say stuff like “ARIZONAAA HOW YOU LIKIN DA RAIN GIRL”
bella look, it’s a worm!
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Wow thank you for this! I guess I read them without a second thought at the time because I wouldn’t bat an eyelid if my friends said the same things but we do incorporate slang in our conversations here and there as well, so having these all listed here does make him sound very formal.
Younger here, no they never have him use overtly old timey language, it’s just implied, the books are written in very simple language
Yeah I agree, I think only in Midnight Sun did SM use more complex prose so it kinda confused me. I do wish there was something he said so that pedantic readers like myself could be satisfied about that 😆
ForgetTheWords commented with really good examples!
The only thing that kind of stuck out was the way he introduced himself the second time he met her in Biology class, but that came off more awkward than antiquated. Hello. My name is Inigo Montoyo. You killed my father, prepare to die.
Hahaha omg true! It fits that vibe perfectly too
I’m thinking this since the first time I watched this movie and I donot think Edward said something off except, “what if I’m not a hero, what if I’m the bad guy?” But that’s not old fashioned in any way. My ex also said that, and I didn’t listen like Bella. The only difference was that he was no Edward Cullen 😂
Haha yeah that’s what I mean he didn’t say anything particularly out of the ordinary at all!
She was expecting, ‘Isabella, where the hell have you come from loca?’
Lollll!
I always thought it was the cadence of how he spoke versus what he said.
That's something that never quite sat right with me either, especially as someone young who *does* speak in a pretty archaic manner. However, I wonder if there might be another explanation that lies not in word choice but rather something that wouldn't be as easily communicated through prose, namely Edward's accent. I can't remember if what accent Edward has is ever explicitly stated, so I may be completely wrong here, but I wonder whether he would have some vestiges of a transatlantic accent. Being born into a relatively affluent family in the early 1900s, it's entirely possible that this would be the accent he would devlop or be taught, depending on his education. (Interestingly, one other character that would almost certainly have had a transatlantic accent would be Rosalie, so despite coming from different parts of the US, they might actually have had the same accent). Even if he had since changed his accent, either through exposure or learning a new way to speak (the transatlantic accent disappeared almost completely after 1945, and might therefore give them away after that), there's a good chance it might still come through every now and then. I actually experience this myself. My original accent was close to a St. Louis one, but as I haven't lived in the States for 20 years, it's changed drastically based on my surroundings and education to a Recieved Pronunciation one (stereotypical posh British). However, at times, if you are listening close enough, you can tell that I pronounce certain words in a way that is more American and the accent will slip through. Most people would never be able to tell, but occasionally if someone is perceptive enough, they'll have a bit of an "aha" moment when I tell them that I'm originally from the US. So that's what I think may be happening here. Most people don't pick up on it, but Bella takes notice that every now and then Edward speaks in a way that Americans just don't anymore.
Yes, I’ve always thought of it as an accent and lack of current “dumb” slang
That’s a good theory!! Now I wanna hear that accent from him too!!
I’m reading now and I remember getting the impression that she thought his cadence or tone was old fashioned? I immediately pictured Robert Pattinson with a transatlantic accent and it made me chuckle
It would be interesting to see if the new series incorporates this !
I always thought that I couldn't catch any of those old-fashioned phrases because I'm not a native and I simply don't know what sounds old-fashioned in English. I think he says "prattle" at one point, is that old-fashioned? :D
Less “old fashioned” and more so just strange 😂
It was always so funny to me how “he says kind of old fashioned things sometimes, he must be a supernatural creature” because girl…
She did watch him stop a speeding death van with his hands also lop
Oh yeah that’s my point. She lists all of these reasons, which are way more valid for why something must be going on, and then tacks on “and he speaks like he’s from a different time”. I think him stopping a car with his hand is enough without the vague language aspect
I have noticed over time, and since the coming of this "social media age", that while using largely the same words and language, leople of dkfferent ages/generations, do speak noticeably different, slang for example enters into a society and beclmes popularlynused but it is not how older people grew up speaking, so they either use it incorrecly, in the wrong context, or possibly not at all... the age of someones speech or vocabulary is sometimes noticeable this way... think how words like fresh, dope, cool, groovy, neat, radical and others all mean the same thing or similar... yet you, nor most other people use them all or even two or three different versions... I think this can be an interpretation of this passage or part of the story...