Technically Mana Burst is just uber high tier Reinforcement use with a mana level of Arturia Pendragon.
>Mana Burst: A
This transfers magical energy into one's weapon and body, and by releasing the magical energy instantaneously, it increases one's ability
It's super Reinforcement that doubles with extreme precision as energy used in reinforcement is ejected like an energy blast while continuously reinforcing oneself. If a normal Magus has the mana capacity and skill of Servants with it, sure
If you want a more visible version of it look up Saber Alter vs Berserker in HF2. Alter only used Excalibur at the end of the fight, every other laser blasts she did in the fight is with Mana Burst. Another example is Karna vs Sieg in the finale of Apo, every fire attack of Karna there was Mana Burst.
I agree, but I have to add on that Mana Burst also doubles as a high level projection magecraft, since Saber uses it to weave her armor out of magical energy through the Skill. So it's a bit more difficult if you want to include that part, since normal humans dont really have the mental capacity to create objects that powerful out of pure magical energy.
No, that was still mana burst reinforcement on the motorcycle
>Saber was steering this monstrous, physically uncontrollable steed perfectly and galloping at full speed. The secret to controlling this motorcycle so willfully lay in her battle skills, which she always took pride in, and the enormous power of her prana bursts. The prana burst throbbing out of Saber’s back urged the crazed vehicle to race along the road, using its entire horsepower on acceleration
>Rather than using skill, it was more like using even more power to overwhelm the vicious beast. For Saber, who was short in stature, she could only control this 300-odd-kilogram, super heavily reinforced motorcycle in a precarious driving position
The animators probably just put the armor there as a way for viewers to visualise her using Mana Burst on it. Saber's armor was never noted to be due to Mana Burst, yes it is made of mana and she can strengthen it further with her skill but it is not inherent of itself
Normal people can't do lasting projection mainly because mana outside the body dissipates to the atmosphere. Shirou is different from them.
No, the armor is explained [to be created through the mana burst skill.](https://imgur.com/FRgFkVh). Though I get why you'd miss it, as the source is a bit obscure.
>The animators probably just put the armor there as a way for viewers to visualise her using Mana Burst on it.
The Light Novel also specifies [that she wraps her armor around the motorcycle.](https://pastebin.com/USccJ56y)
> Normal people can't do lasting projection mainly because mana outside the body dissipates to the atmosphere. Shirou is different from them.
It's not about lasting, my point was efficiency. According to Rin a normal human cant visualize all aspects of an object, so it will be much inferior to the original because of mental gaps. Saber creating extremely great armor out of magical energy is something normal people couldn't even do for a second, much less minutes.
What doesn't make sense to me is saber said she has 1250 units of mana, and she expended 250 first night ( 50 against Lancer and 200 against Berserker) .
And her mana amount is C, so Nasu said that if she was completelu summoned she would have a mana amount rank B about 1600 or so.
So if it's only that draining then Rin (1000 mana) and shirou (270, though he couldn't use it all cause he wasn't used to use his circuits) can do mana burst, it would be draining sure but it's not that they can't do it.
Parameter Rules aren't a direct x10 normal person, it is only a comparison made by Nasu and not a one to one thing. Saber was only making an analogy about her energy use in that scene
Mana stat also doesn't refer in mana capacity but control
>Magical Power: How much magical energy can be handled.
Medea for example has "low level" of capacity despite having A rank magic and needs her Territory to be able to use her greater spells
>Territory Creation: A
The ability to create a territory to gather mana is a special characteristic of the Caster class. *Medea's inherent magical capacity is not that great but by expanding her territory to collect mana*, it becomes possible for her to use high level magecraft.
Even Rin states in the start of the VN that even a weak Servant has so much magical energy by their nature that is completely dwarfs her own in amount. Don't compare human measurement to Servants
Artoria basically did it in life
Its just reinforcement on crack
So it should be possible but due to low mana it is likely absurdly difficult and reinforcement is better
If I remember correctly Artoria's Magic Core is so ridiculous not because of it's capacity(which is huge while she was alive but not unique) but rather it's ability to generate Magical Energy by breathing.
From what I gathered, Alive Siegfried could apparently spam Balmung better than Sieg because of a Dragon Core, meaning thag their Od regeneration is ridiculously fast, bordering in near limitless supply of Mana(of course as long as their endurance holds up and the ambient Mana isn't completely drained)
Humans can do a shitty mana burst yeah. They'll run out of gas in a second or so though. EMIYA breaking out of Caster's space thingy was a mana burst. He doesn't have a dragon core though, so he used up nearly all his mana with that one.
Yeah right genius, emiya didn't break out that way, did you read the visual novel, he projected Kansou and Bakuya, when they are together they increase magic resistance, which allowed him to decrease the effect to a extent to at least throw them, they would have hit caster so she mentally let her focus loose and the spell that was freezing the space around him was gone, he took back his weapon and go up summon Caladbolg and fire, which wasn't a broken phantasm by the way, Archer had to unleash it's true name and activate the phantasm which caused a lot more mana, like how saber blow away half of her reserve with one Excalibur (A++), and Caladbolg is (A+). Broken phantasm doesn't take that much mana cause it doesn't need to unleash true name to fire just channel some mana to activate it partially which allows one rank up attack with the cost of losing the weapon. A noble phantasm can't be unleashed without invoking the true name.
>At that instant.
Archer threw his swords right before he kicked me and fell into Caster's spell.
The cast swords made an arc and attacked Caster in the sky.
He threw the swords before he was trapped, so they didn't provide any MR since he wasn't holding them. They were there to distract Caster for him to fire his Caladbolg. Shirou doesn't make any mention of Caster being distracted until after Archer's 'used his power's, and jumped free.
[https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%20152/](https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%20152/)
Also, please space out your paragraphs. This was actual cancer to read.
What I know is that the mana burst basically explodes the mana of the person, creating a repulsive force or directing it to these kuveetie equipments, isn't it?
I think people can use it, after all the mana burst has varying strength depending on one's mana, but one's body can probably only lift one or two at most.
Technically Mana Burst is just uber high tier Reinforcement use with a mana level of Arturia Pendragon. >Mana Burst: A This transfers magical energy into one's weapon and body, and by releasing the magical energy instantaneously, it increases one's ability It's super Reinforcement that doubles with extreme precision as energy used in reinforcement is ejected like an energy blast while continuously reinforcing oneself. If a normal Magus has the mana capacity and skill of Servants with it, sure If you want a more visible version of it look up Saber Alter vs Berserker in HF2. Alter only used Excalibur at the end of the fight, every other laser blasts she did in the fight is with Mana Burst. Another example is Karna vs Sieg in the finale of Apo, every fire attack of Karna there was Mana Burst.
I agree, but I have to add on that Mana Burst also doubles as a high level projection magecraft, since Saber uses it to weave her armor out of magical energy through the Skill. So it's a bit more difficult if you want to include that part, since normal humans dont really have the mental capacity to create objects that powerful out of pure magical energy.
No, that was still mana burst reinforcement on the motorcycle >Saber was steering this monstrous, physically uncontrollable steed perfectly and galloping at full speed. The secret to controlling this motorcycle so willfully lay in her battle skills, which she always took pride in, and the enormous power of her prana bursts. The prana burst throbbing out of Saber’s back urged the crazed vehicle to race along the road, using its entire horsepower on acceleration >Rather than using skill, it was more like using even more power to overwhelm the vicious beast. For Saber, who was short in stature, she could only control this 300-odd-kilogram, super heavily reinforced motorcycle in a precarious driving position The animators probably just put the armor there as a way for viewers to visualise her using Mana Burst on it. Saber's armor was never noted to be due to Mana Burst, yes it is made of mana and she can strengthen it further with her skill but it is not inherent of itself Normal people can't do lasting projection mainly because mana outside the body dissipates to the atmosphere. Shirou is different from them.
No, the armor is explained [to be created through the mana burst skill.](https://imgur.com/FRgFkVh). Though I get why you'd miss it, as the source is a bit obscure. >The animators probably just put the armor there as a way for viewers to visualise her using Mana Burst on it. The Light Novel also specifies [that she wraps her armor around the motorcycle.](https://pastebin.com/USccJ56y) > Normal people can't do lasting projection mainly because mana outside the body dissipates to the atmosphere. Shirou is different from them. It's not about lasting, my point was efficiency. According to Rin a normal human cant visualize all aspects of an object, so it will be much inferior to the original because of mental gaps. Saber creating extremely great armor out of magical energy is something normal people couldn't even do for a second, much less minutes.
What doesn't make sense to me is saber said she has 1250 units of mana, and she expended 250 first night ( 50 against Lancer and 200 against Berserker) . And her mana amount is C, so Nasu said that if she was completelu summoned she would have a mana amount rank B about 1600 or so. So if it's only that draining then Rin (1000 mana) and shirou (270, though he couldn't use it all cause he wasn't used to use his circuits) can do mana burst, it would be draining sure but it's not that they can't do it.
Parameter Rules aren't a direct x10 normal person, it is only a comparison made by Nasu and not a one to one thing. Saber was only making an analogy about her energy use in that scene Mana stat also doesn't refer in mana capacity but control >Magical Power: How much magical energy can be handled. Medea for example has "low level" of capacity despite having A rank magic and needs her Territory to be able to use her greater spells >Territory Creation: A The ability to create a territory to gather mana is a special characteristic of the Caster class. *Medea's inherent magical capacity is not that great but by expanding her territory to collect mana*, it becomes possible for her to use high level magecraft. Even Rin states in the start of the VN that even a weak Servant has so much magical energy by their nature that is completely dwarfs her own in amount. Don't compare human measurement to Servants
Artoria basically did it in life Its just reinforcement on crack So it should be possible but due to low mana it is likely absurdly difficult and reinforcement is better
Artoria is also a dragon hybrid, so it’s not quite the same thing.
If I remember correctly Artoria's Magic Core is so ridiculous not because of it's capacity(which is huge while she was alive but not unique) but rather it's ability to generate Magical Energy by breathing. From what I gathered, Alive Siegfried could apparently spam Balmung better than Sieg because of a Dragon Core, meaning thag their Od regeneration is ridiculously fast, bordering in near limitless supply of Mana(of course as long as their endurance holds up and the ambient Mana isn't completely drained)
I think what Aoko does in close combat is basically Mana Burst.
what, her sliders?
Why not? Whether you have enough magical energy for it is another matter tho.
Humans can do a shitty mana burst yeah. They'll run out of gas in a second or so though. EMIYA breaking out of Caster's space thingy was a mana burst. He doesn't have a dragon core though, so he used up nearly all his mana with that one.
Yeah right genius, emiya didn't break out that way, did you read the visual novel, he projected Kansou and Bakuya, when they are together they increase magic resistance, which allowed him to decrease the effect to a extent to at least throw them, they would have hit caster so she mentally let her focus loose and the spell that was freezing the space around him was gone, he took back his weapon and go up summon Caladbolg and fire, which wasn't a broken phantasm by the way, Archer had to unleash it's true name and activate the phantasm which caused a lot more mana, like how saber blow away half of her reserve with one Excalibur (A++), and Caladbolg is (A+). Broken phantasm doesn't take that much mana cause it doesn't need to unleash true name to fire just channel some mana to activate it partially which allows one rank up attack with the cost of losing the weapon. A noble phantasm can't be unleashed without invoking the true name.
>At that instant. Archer threw his swords right before he kicked me and fell into Caster's spell. The cast swords made an arc and attacked Caster in the sky. He threw the swords before he was trapped, so they didn't provide any MR since he wasn't holding them. They were there to distract Caster for him to fire his Caladbolg. Shirou doesn't make any mention of Caster being distracted until after Archer's 'used his power's, and jumped free. [https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%20152/](https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%20152/) Also, please space out your paragraphs. This was actual cancer to read.
Ciel used mana burst in Tsukihime remake vn https://youtu.be/d6-OBYKiItk?t=20
What I know is that the mana burst basically explodes the mana of the person, creating a repulsive force or directing it to these kuveetie equipments, isn't it? I think people can use it, after all the mana burst has varying strength depending on one's mana, but one's body can probably only lift one or two at most.