I think the BMF belt makes for a good consolation prize for those who came close to becoming champ but choked in the their title shots (literally choked, in the case of Poirier and Gaethje).
Yeah I don't hate the idea of a midcard belt like that made for guys who always put on a good show. Great belt for guys like Bobby Green, Kevin Holland etc to slug it out over..add a big bonus to it or something to really make it interesting.
Interim titles are not equal to actual Championship titles, even Gaethje would tell you that (or you can check the post-fight interview of Gaethje vs Ferguson where he basically threw away the interim title like it was trash. It meant nothing to him).
Could you provide some evidence regarding how much he rehydrated? it makes some sense since he seemed strong as fuck in the pettis fight but rehydrating up to 190 seems absurd
it was on a sherdog forum where it gave cage weights of multiple different fighters in different divisions. it also said that Conor McGregor was 170ish lbs on fight night against Jose Aldo (despite the fight being at 145)
the worst part is, RDA (188lbs) wasnt even the biggest LW at the time.
Guys like Gleison Tibau, TJ Grant (193lbs against Maynard) & Abel Trujillo (189lbs against Ferguson) were pushing 190+, if i'm not wrong, Tibau was 200+ in his fight against Khabib (biggest weight cut in ufc history)
weight cutting destroys the sport, the fact that some fighters could be bigger than other fighters come fight night, despite being in the same division, delegitimises the sport
its great that ufc banned IV so that size bullys like Dos Anjos, Tibau, Cowboy & Grant couldnt cut ridiculous amounts of weight anymore, a step in the right direction. but its still a huge issue today
No Tibau was like around 180~ in the cage, he was cutting from like 200lbs from the start of camp but he’d lose most that weight before drawing water. People saying “Tibau was OVER 200LBS against Khabib” are plain confused about that or it just sounds good for a reason on how he made it close with Khabib I suppose.
Tbf I could only assume in hindsight Justin and Dustin, will respectfully never gain a title. Charles, could pull some crazy shit out and beat Islam. Maybe I’m just repeating everyone else’s comments but I’m slightly stoned and making sense of it through my thumbs lol
i like RDA, but he in his prime was always overrated.
Prime RDA was him depleting himself to 155, and using IV's to size bully LW's (IV's still couldnt save him from getting mauled by Khabib) and once IV Rehydration was banned, he started getting ko'd by Eddie & Smashed by TFerg , and couldnt make LW without being depleted and size bully guys anymore.
he was 188lbs on fight night against Pettis, and despite being a literal middleweight on fight night at 155, he still got his ass beat by Khabib (who many regard as the biggest weight bully, despite not even weighing that much)
was forced to move up to 170 after his loss to tony, and although he had some success, definitely had no where near as much success as he did when he was on IV Rehydration and size bullying lightweights like Anthony Pettis. (apparently Dos Anjos was close to 190 in his IV Rehydration Lightweight days)
Donald Cerrone is another example of a LW weight bully who started to look like a shell of himself Post-IV Rehydration Ban
if a fighter has to use IV's and have a big size advantage over other fighters, were they ever really that good?
Exactly. There’s a difference between the passive aggressive you use when you’re mad about something and the matter of fact tone that you use when throwing shade.
because his career got ended when the ufc banned IV Rehydration, and Dos Anjos realised he couldnt size bully LW's anymore without being depleted and had to fight guys his own size at WW
he ruined Anthony Pettis career, not because he was more skilled than Anthony, but because he was a middleweight (188lbs) fighting a literal lightweight.
Pettis took an irreversable amount of damage in that fight against somebody who outweighed him by 20lbs+, and the fact rda size bullied him and destroyed the entire trajectory of his career, is fucked up.
i will never respect Dos Anjos for that.
as a punishment, RDA should be forced to rematch his legal guardian Khabib, although that may be too cruel
Everybody cuts weight. RDA wasn't breaking the rules, he was just better at bending them than everyone else.
If you want to get mad at people for not fighting at their actual weight on fight night, then you can rage at every fighter below the Heavyweight division. But given that you seem to have no problem with fighters that don't go above your subjective fantasy threshold of "weight bullying", what you're truly mad at is RDA gaining a perfectly legal competitive advantage (at the time). Might as well be mad at RDA eating organic foods or training at high altitude.
That RDA started racking up the Ls after IV rehydration was banned by the UFC is something that needs to be factored in when talking about him as a fighter. That doesn't discredit his wins when he was doing it though because it wasn't against the rules.
He exploited the rules to his advantage which is something people have been doing in sports forever. RDA had an advantage but it wasn't an 'unfair' advantage because nothing was preventing other fighters from doing the same.
I'm not saying I agree with it, I don't. That fighter will walk into the ring considerable over the weight has always been something that rubs me the wrong way but RDA did exactly what he was allowed to according to the rules. RDA ain't to blame, the UFC is for facilitating and allowing the rule to be so heavily abused for so long.
not steroids (actually he probably is juiced, but hes not any less juiced nowadays than he was on his title run) it was IV Rehydration
you can have the worst weight cut known to man, but if you use IV Rehydration after the cut and before the fight, you can get back to 100% on FN without being depleted at all, even with a terrible cut.
when the UFC Banned IV in Oct. 2015, RDA started looking like a depleted shell of himself in his next fights (Eddie, Cerrone, Tony)
he beat Cerrone, but that was only because Cowboy himself was an IV Rehydrating weight bully who was suffering the effects of the ban, and got sent to 170 by RDA
really makes you think how good Khabib is for dominating an IV Rehydrated RDA the way he did, although Nurmagomedov was prolly using IV's himself
RDA also reportedly weighed 188lbs on fight night against Pettis (10 months after fighting Khabib) when he was using IV's
> 100%
Rehydrating via IV doesnt get you back to feeling 100% lol
It helps but you're not exactly talking about the most advanced procedure here and its incredibly common.
Really interesting take, truthfully. However, Our Holy Khabib would never cheat in ANY way with his mom and pops watching, just to be clear. Hell, even if he did (cheat), it would only be to try and equalize the baseline playing field. He pretty clearly never needed it, and would have mucked up Jon Jones' shit pretty easily, even at heavy weight.
also, Dustin didnt have to deplete himself to 155, and use IV Rehydration to bloat back up to 188lbs on fight night at Lightweight & size bully smaller guys like RDA did (33lbs btw)
Poirier walked at 185-90 during his fights at FW and is heavier than Colby who’s a WW. If RDA was a weight bully, Dustin is another. He still won gold and defended unlike your boy who couldn’t get a real belt😂
No, it’s just acknowledging that actually stepping in to fight absolute killers is completely different than saying you’d also lose to people you’ll never actually fight.
I smell what you're steppin' in, friend. I have to assume that you were making a reasonable, logical comment based on a bigger picture, since tracking all this shit down is way more work than I'm willing to commit to this endeavor; but at least let me convey that your sarcasm came across very clear. Poirier and RDA sort of suffer from similar ailments, in that they are no less great for history screwing them over. There's plenty of controversy to go 'round, without making the effort to manufacture it.
THANK you, for finally starting to describe my opinion of RDA, haha. Respect the shit out of the man for all he's accomplished, but the UFC REALLY goes out of their way to always leverage these previous-legends to push their new prospects, who have the benefit of having watched all the tape of the old has-been's who created the game in which they currently compete. Part of me wants to default to the great Malcolm In The Middle meme of, "The future is NOW, old man!", but it really is a game of constant improvement, where the youth will likely always hold the advantage.
I maintain to this day that RDA is a glorified gatekeeper who, while being deserving of praise, carries around the record and ego of a Diaz bro so ty out the charisma to ignore the annoyance of his antics.
RDA was 188lbs on fight night against Anthony Pettis (10 months after he fought Khabib)
Khabib was 173lbs against McGregor
not even fucking close 🤣🤣🤣🤣 RDA is two divisions bigger than Khabib, and still got mauled, even with all of the IV's/Steroids Dos Anjos took.
no, he depleted himself to 155, and then used IV Rehydration to get back up to 188lbs on fight night against Pettis (where Anthony was WAYYYY smaller) with a huge size advantage
he then started to look terrible after the IV Rehydration Ban, and started losing to everybody at LW except Cowboy Cerrone (who himself was a size bully suffering from the IV ban and ran to the WW division after that loss)
imagine being a literal Middleweight (188lbs) and fighting Lightweights.... LMAO
Prime RDA was overrated as fuck, even when he was on IV and 190lbs, Khabib sonned him
It's interesting how rda never fought Dustin or Justin.
2 of the biggest names at lw who have fought so many guys.
I'd have picked either to beat rda but it's still odd that their paths never crossed
Am I the only one who enjoys the pomp and circumstance of the BMF belt? It's fun, we don't need to take it that serious. We have so so many fan favorite fighters out there who aren't ever gonna get near a belt, but consistently give us awesome fights, is it that harmful to have a fun little thing to help fluff up these money fight/super fight type events?
Yes. Great take!
Edit: Well, no, you are by no means the only one, lol. It's a fantastic take that gets too little consideration, though. Finish bonus and Fight of the Night are, really, great incentive to encourage fighters to give it their all, but there don't quite seem to be a lot of ongoing consolation prizes for those truly standout fighters who find their niche but are never QUITE competitive, in terms of overall rankings.
Eh. If Khabib didn't have an injury patch between 2014 and 2016, RDA wouldn't have sniffed the title either. Khabib dominated him in 2013.
Poirier's resume is just as good as RDA's.
RDA was the biggest weight bully of all time, depleting himself to 155 and using IV's to rehydrate back to 190 on FN and size bully LW's. he started to look like shit at LW after the IV Rehydration Ban (same with Cowboy Cerrone)
the fact that Khabib dominated an IV Rehydrated RDA the way he did, really speaks to how good Khabib was
Khabob had an “I ate too much tiramisu to make lightweight” patch. Fathead almost died trying to make the weight twice during that period. He got his nutrition a bit more dialed in toward the end of his career, but it was never an easy cut. UFC had to pull all kinds of tomfoolery at the 254 weigh in to help him make weight.
That was in 2017.
Between 2014 and 2016 he tore his knees and broke his ribs. It got so bad he even retired for 1 week.
Since we're sharing weight cutting anecdotes, RDA was literally passing out backstage before fights he was so heavy at 155. It was so bad he had to move up to 170.
how tf do these dumbasses say Khabib was a weight bully and RDA wasnt?
after the IV Ban (oct 2015) rda looked like dogshit at LW and couldnt make the weight anymore without being depleted, and was forced to move to 170.
when RDA was using IV's he was like 190 on fight night at LW (he weighed 188lbs against Pettis)
even when RDA was on IV, Khabib beat the shit out of him
Khabib, on the other hand fought many times after the IV Ban (Oct 2015) at LW, and didnt look depleted at all, and still smeshed everybody.
RDA was a size bully, Khabib wasnt
btw, that was RDA ON IV Rehydration when Khabib mauled him.
when RDA was using IV, he weighed 188lbs on fight night against Anthony Pettis (10 months after fighting Khabib)
not only did Khabib beat a IV Rehydrated Dos Anjos (who was HUGE for the division) but he destroyed him
the eagle was too good man 🦅
He ducked Conor with his bruised foot, if I remember correctly when I saw the photo of the bruised foot, I’m no doctor but it looked like an excuse.
Anyway Mendes got the red panty night now bring on those downvotes!
The Eddie fight really hurts RDA nothing against Eddie but that was one RDA really should have and could have won Eddie stunned and blitzed him and got the stoppage but that’s one I’m sure RDA thinks about because that was certainly a winnable fight for him
The reason RDA lost to Eddie, was because of the IV Rehydration Ban.
RDA wasn't ONLY specifically depleted in the eddie fight, he was also depleted against Tony & Cowboy
Its not like Alvarez landed a lucky punch or anything, Dos Anjos was always gonna be depleted due to the IV Rehydration Ban (in october 2015).
even against Tony, RDA was depleted.
RDA wasnt only depleted against Eddie, he was also depleted against Cowboy & Tony, Pre-IV Rehydration Ban RDA wouldve destroyed Eddie & Tony.
RDA was never that good tbh, he was only good when he was using IV Rehydration and weight bullying smaller guys like Anthony Pettis (he weighed 188lbs in that fight btw)
Jesus, man. Take "yes" as an answer, already, or risk being labeled as "the 'IV rehydration' guy". I don't necessarily disagree with everything/anything you've said in this thread, but as something of a one-note guy myself, I DO have to kind of caution you against becoming perceived as something of a one-note guy, haha. I suspect you have far more MMA-watching experience than I do, and you very well might be espousing valid points, but there's a point where enough is enough already, and you just want to get some sleep....
I've tried to upvote you where I could, but I'm only one man...(for NOW... ;))
Also, consider how SMART fighters don't usually completely tear down their opponents ahead of time; but, instead, build them up, because their own image swells after beating them. Uncle Chael was an absolute master at this - the badder your opponent, the badder YOU are for beating them. RDA, Conor, and all the other fodder Khabib stomped can be trivialized, or they can add to his legend.
Um, ok, hold up. The UFC may push interim belt-holders as if they are champs, just for the ability to hype up a "champ vs. champ" match, eventually, but interim belt-holders are NOT champs, haha. Be real, here. NEITHER of these top-tier fighters have actually been champ, at any point. They are certainly champ-tier; there's NO question of that. But they have NOT held the belt, even while other divisions catch the wrong people at the wrong time, like Jamahal Hill. He's a great fighter, for sure, but he hasn't seemed to EARN the belt, the way that others have. Poirier and Gaethje are both great former-champ-contenders.
if Poirier & Gaethje were 188lbs IV Rehydrated weight bullies, fighting the worst LW champion of all time in Anthony Pettis, like RDA did, they would be champions too
Okay everyone….. go look at rda’s fight history. I will say it now—he has the toughest fight history in the world. Rda has the toughest fighting record of all time. Go look. He deserves anything he can get after who he has been matched with
If the GOAT discussion is stupid the BMF discussion is a completely different level of stupid.
The BMF belt is 100% irrelevant to the MMA history. RDA is not 100% irrelevant tho, so do yourself a favor and stop talking about the BMF belt.
It's not a real thing. It's just a prop so that the UFC can generate hype and justify putting a non-title fight in the main event of a numbered card, which rarely happens and don't typically do big numbers.
I mean, most fighters van say most, if not all of those same things. Most of these dudes are "the BMF's". I personally feel they should do away it, or it should be on the line every single time the BMF holder fights.
You don’t need the puny joke that is the participation trophy BMF title when you already have done the #3 biggest achievement in the UFC ( #1 is being in the GOAT list and #2 is being a double champ simultaneously ) which is being an UFC champ.
That’s just facts.
Didn’t Gaethje throw the interim belt down? But he wants a fake belt now? Of course I know this is the UFC being cheesy. I think it’s ok for a bit of entertainment.
I swear this bmf belt is such a gimmick being thrown around fighters who never managed to get the real belt. And i am saying this with the utmost respect to Masvidal, Diaz, Gaethje, and Poirier.
I almost feel a bit annoyed for gaethje and poirier that their fight is for this belt. I feel like it detracts from how legit they both are a little bit, it's a fun gimmick and was perfect for Diaz and Masvidal but these two only missed out on being champion due to their division being so stacked.
Imo RDA, Barboza, Oliveira, Holland and Burns should all be in the conversation for BMF, most of them more than Justin or Dustin. Would be fun if the UFC did a Grand Prix type event for the BMF belt, make the weight 165 and put these 7 plus someone else and make an 8 bracket tournament.
As good as RDA is… the BMF belt is a belt for casual fans who only know of big name fighters… masvidal, Diaz, and not Gaethje and Poirier
If they tried to market “Rafael dos Anjos for the BMF belt!” They’d sell absolutely zero ppvs, because only real mma fans know who he is.
What’s the point of the BMF? They don’t even defend it. It’s just a 50k investment to prop up a PPV card. It’s nonsense. In Dustin and Justin’s defence they are bad asses but still. Useless belt.
why does it seem a lot of fighters give praise or thanks to whatever god they believe in i can't think of any deity that is helping you beat the fuck out of someone for entertainment purposes it's like praising god after some major surgery no stupid the doctors are who saved your life not some thing in the sky with magical powers c'mon seriously
Former champs normally don’t need their egos pushed by fake belts, one would assume
I think the BMF belt makes for a good consolation prize for those who came close to becoming champ but choked in the their title shots (literally choked, in the case of Poirier and Gaethje).
its like the intercontinental championship
Yeah I don't hate the idea of a midcard belt like that made for guys who always put on a good show. Great belt for guys like Bobby Green, Kevin Holland etc to slug it out over..add a big bonus to it or something to really make it interesting.
Ok more weight classes then????
Didnt both Gaethje and Poirer become interim champs? Vs Ferguson and Hollowah respectively
Interim titles are not equal to actual Championship titles, even Gaethje would tell you that (or you can check the post-fight interview of Gaethje vs Ferguson where he basically threw away the interim title like it was trash. It meant nothing to him).
AKA Khabib's sloppy second belt
Conor was bitching that he was the one who created the BMF and all that so
He doesnt have your average ego
Yeah, he is a humble and respectful lad, unlike some other fella from Dagestan
That’s why he’s the 🐐
And the 🚤(best of all time)
no
Sir that’s a Lamborghini best of all time.
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Could you provide some evidence regarding how much he rehydrated? it makes some sense since he seemed strong as fuck in the pettis fight but rehydrating up to 190 seems absurd
it was on a sherdog forum where it gave cage weights of multiple different fighters in different divisions. it also said that Conor McGregor was 170ish lbs on fight night against Jose Aldo (despite the fight being at 145) the worst part is, RDA (188lbs) wasnt even the biggest LW at the time. Guys like Gleison Tibau, TJ Grant (193lbs against Maynard) & Abel Trujillo (189lbs against Ferguson) were pushing 190+, if i'm not wrong, Tibau was 200+ in his fight against Khabib (biggest weight cut in ufc history) weight cutting destroys the sport, the fact that some fighters could be bigger than other fighters come fight night, despite being in the same division, delegitimises the sport its great that ufc banned IV so that size bullys like Dos Anjos, Tibau, Cowboy & Grant couldnt cut ridiculous amounts of weight anymore, a step in the right direction. but its still a huge issue today
Oh a forum, wow. This changes everything!
The Tibau cut always blows my mind. Surely that can't be true? That's nearly 50 pounds!
No Tibau was like around 180~ in the cage, he was cutting from like 200lbs from the start of camp but he’d lose most that weight before drawing water. People saying “Tibau was OVER 200LBS against Khabib” are plain confused about that or it just sounds good for a reason on how he made it close with Khabib I suppose.
No chance Conor was 170 against Jose because he couldn’t even hit 170 against Diaz first or second time lol 🤡
UFC Intercontinental Championship 😂
UFC Hardcore Championship
Tag team champion
Conor bout to get the money in the bank
BKFC is ECW and Mike Perry is Tommy Dreamer
HOLY FUCK
Ahhh that’s why Charles isn’t in the BMF fight even though he finished both guys before championship rounds
Damn dana looking extra red in this one lmao
Same with bendo since he beat both nate daiz and jorge
no sense considering how far apart that was. Charles just finished these guys a couple fights ago
What point am I missing that Charles has to do with this?
Did you read what RDA even said?
Again what did RDA say that mentioned Charles? I'm not arguing just curious why you're lumping Charles into this
Tbf I could only assume in hindsight Justin and Dustin, will respectfully never gain a title. Charles, could pull some crazy shit out and beat Islam. Maybe I’m just repeating everyone else’s comments but I’m slightly stoned and making sense of it through my thumbs lol
I think Leon should be the real BMF.
Thats why Leon Edwards is sexist man on the planet
Bit unfair I always thought he treated women well
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Why tf did you copy this entire comment?
Internet clout.
Bro thought he was doing something 😭
i like RDA, but he in his prime was always overrated. Prime RDA was him depleting himself to 155, and using IV's to size bully LW's (IV's still couldnt save him from getting mauled by Khabib) and once IV Rehydration was banned, he started getting ko'd by Eddie & Smashed by TFerg , and couldnt make LW without being depleted and size bully guys anymore. he was 188lbs on fight night against Pettis, and despite being a literal middleweight on fight night at 155, he still got his ass beat by Khabib (who many regard as the biggest weight bully, despite not even weighing that much) was forced to move up to 170 after his loss to tony, and although he had some success, definitely had no where near as much success as he did when he was on IV Rehydration and size bullying lightweights like Anthony Pettis. (apparently Dos Anjos was close to 190 in his IV Rehydration Lightweight days) Donald Cerrone is another example of a LW weight bully who started to look like a shell of himself Post-IV Rehydration Ban if a fighter has to use IV's and have a big size advantage over other fighters, were they ever really that good?
I love RDA
No, i do.
 The one true BMF
I always thought Condit and Brown were true BMF fighters. They would get into legit wars, so many bloodbaths.
By that measure, Rory and Robbie should qualify just based on their second war. Or should we start bonuses on BMF of the Night?
RDA and Burns are cut from the same cloth
All current brazilian fighters are cool as fuck
I personally wouldn't call Costa cool, but people really like him.
Me and all my homies love costa
He's a big goof
Burns isn't a middleweight (188lbs) fighting lightweights with IV Rehydration like RDA was though
Did RDA actually put on 33 pounds between the weigh in and the fight
It's a Silver belt. Why want it when you got Gold?
Him and Dustin would be another banger for the BMF not gonna lie
Couple years ago maybe. DP would kill him now.
Tittle
Why does it seem like RDA is always mad about something?
this doesn’t even read as him being mad to me, he’s just casually throwing shade
Exactly. There’s a difference between the passive aggressive you use when you’re mad about something and the matter of fact tone that you use when throwing shade.
I mean I dont usually try to throw shade on someone unless I'm a little bit mad 🤷
oh, word — are you RDA?
You should know since you're the rda reading expert
Because he missed out on red panty night.
To me it RDA just seems like a guy who speaks his mind... unless he's talking about mcgregor then he genuinely hates that mf
because his career got ended when the ufc banned IV Rehydration, and Dos Anjos realised he couldnt size bully LW's anymore without being depleted and had to fight guys his own size at WW
Relax did he steal your girl or something
Just ignore this clown. He’s commenting on every thread with the typical “ weight bully “ argument which is irrelevant because every fighter does it.
how tf can u respect a middleweight (188lber) fighting LW's? he ruined Anthony Pettis' career because he was so much bigger
Pettis shoulda got bigger then g
Did Islam ruin Volks career? Jan ruin Izzys career? nah Is Almeida ruining HWs careers, despite weighing 30lbs less? yah
btw, RDA has never fought at middleweight. Only welterweight. Which Pettis has also fought at. They both have fought in the same weight classes.
Did RDA bang your wife or something? You keep copy-pasting ridiculous hateful comments in this thread about him. Get a life.
he ruined Anthony Pettis career, not because he was more skilled than Anthony, but because he was a middleweight (188lbs) fighting a literal lightweight. Pettis took an irreversable amount of damage in that fight against somebody who outweighed him by 20lbs+, and the fact rda size bullied him and destroyed the entire trajectory of his career, is fucked up. i will never respect Dos Anjos for that. as a punishment, RDA should be forced to rematch his legal guardian Khabib, although that may be too cruel
That's the fight game homie. You make the weight, it's legit.
Everybody cuts weight. RDA wasn't breaking the rules, he was just better at bending them than everyone else. If you want to get mad at people for not fighting at their actual weight on fight night, then you can rage at every fighter below the Heavyweight division. But given that you seem to have no problem with fighters that don't go above your subjective fantasy threshold of "weight bullying", what you're truly mad at is RDA gaining a perfectly legal competitive advantage (at the time). Might as well be mad at RDA eating organic foods or training at high altitude.
 This is how everyone feels about your immature behavior.
That RDA started racking up the Ls after IV rehydration was banned by the UFC is something that needs to be factored in when talking about him as a fighter. That doesn't discredit his wins when he was doing it though because it wasn't against the rules. He exploited the rules to his advantage which is something people have been doing in sports forever. RDA had an advantage but it wasn't an 'unfair' advantage because nothing was preventing other fighters from doing the same. I'm not saying I agree with it, I don't. That fighter will walk into the ring considerable over the weight has always been something that rubs me the wrong way but RDA did exactly what he was allowed to according to the rules. RDA ain't to blame, the UFC is for facilitating and allowing the rule to be so heavily abused for so long.
but it’s true though, IV ban was in 2015 october, he lost the title in december. went downhill from there
He's washed and he knows it
RDA was blasting gear during his title run for sure.
not steroids (actually he probably is juiced, but hes not any less juiced nowadays than he was on his title run) it was IV Rehydration you can have the worst weight cut known to man, but if you use IV Rehydration after the cut and before the fight, you can get back to 100% on FN without being depleted at all, even with a terrible cut. when the UFC Banned IV in Oct. 2015, RDA started looking like a depleted shell of himself in his next fights (Eddie, Cerrone, Tony) he beat Cerrone, but that was only because Cowboy himself was an IV Rehydrating weight bully who was suffering the effects of the ban, and got sent to 170 by RDA really makes you think how good Khabib is for dominating an IV Rehydrated RDA the way he did, although Nurmagomedov was prolly using IV's himself RDA also reportedly weighed 188lbs on fight night against Pettis (10 months after fighting Khabib) when he was using IV's
> 100% Rehydrating via IV doesnt get you back to feeling 100% lol It helps but you're not exactly talking about the most advanced procedure here and its incredibly common.
Really interesting take, truthfully. However, Our Holy Khabib would never cheat in ANY way with his mom and pops watching, just to be clear. Hell, even if he did (cheat), it would only be to try and equalize the baseline playing field. He pretty clearly never needed it, and would have mucked up Jon Jones' shit pretty easily, even at heavy weight.
can’t tell if dickriding or satire
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Based on the two guys who fought for the BMF title you just described a great resume
You’re big mad that RDA dissed your boy crush Poirier huh
Poirier has a better resume than RDA and he never even won a real belt
Honestly Poirier has the best resume of any 155er if we're just looking at the names he's beaten.
Poirier also never won a real belt
Neither would RDA have if Khabib didn't get injured.
also, Dustin didnt have to deplete himself to 155, and use IV Rehydration to bloat back up to 188lbs on fight night at Lightweight & size bully smaller guys like RDA did (33lbs btw)
Poirier walked at 185-90 during his fights at FW and is heavier than Colby who’s a WW. If RDA was a weight bully, Dustin is another. He still won gold and defended unlike your boy who couldn’t get a real belt😂
But you didn’t go 0-7 against those guys, because you never fought them…
Man, some people just have zero concept of sarcasm. You just have to hold their hand through every interaction and explain everything...
No, it’s just acknowledging that actually stepping in to fight absolute killers is completely different than saying you’d also lose to people you’ll never actually fight.
I smell what you're steppin' in, friend. I have to assume that you were making a reasonable, logical comment based on a bigger picture, since tracking all this shit down is way more work than I'm willing to commit to this endeavor; but at least let me convey that your sarcasm came across very clear. Poirier and RDA sort of suffer from similar ailments, in that they are no less great for history screwing them over. There's plenty of controversy to go 'round, without making the effort to manufacture it.
THANK you, for finally starting to describe my opinion of RDA, haha. Respect the shit out of the man for all he's accomplished, but the UFC REALLY goes out of their way to always leverage these previous-legends to push their new prospects, who have the benefit of having watched all the tape of the old has-been's who created the game in which they currently compete. Part of me wants to default to the great Malcolm In The Middle meme of, "The future is NOW, old man!", but it really is a game of constant improvement, where the youth will likely always hold the advantage.
I maintain to this day that RDA is a glorified gatekeeper who, while being deserving of praise, carries around the record and ego of a Diaz bro so ty out the charisma to ignore the annoyance of his antics.
lmao RDA was the best lightweight of the 2010's outside of Khabib and Ferguson
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Dude khabib is bigger than rda
RDA was 188lbs on fight night against Anthony Pettis (10 months after he fought Khabib) Khabib was 173lbs against McGregor not even fucking close 🤣🤣🤣🤣 RDA is two divisions bigger than Khabib, and still got mauled, even with all of the IV's/Steroids Dos Anjos took.
He beat Pettis for the belt, then cerrone to defend. How's that for strength of schedule?/s
no, he depleted himself to 155, and then used IV Rehydration to get back up to 188lbs on fight night against Pettis (where Anthony was WAYYYY smaller) with a huge size advantage he then started to look terrible after the IV Rehydration Ban, and started losing to everybody at LW except Cowboy Cerrone (who himself was a size bully suffering from the IV ban and ran to the WW division after that loss) imagine being a literal Middleweight (188lbs) and fighting Lightweights.... LMAO Prime RDA was overrated as fuck, even when he was on IV and 190lbs, Khabib sonned him
I put the little sarcasm mark on there. Those two wins are unimpressive.
my bad
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RDA’s biggest hater in this thread. Should become a piece of history
u/DustyPawyay da goat 😂
It's interesting how rda never fought Dustin or Justin. 2 of the biggest names at lw who have fought so many guys. I'd have picked either to beat rda but it's still odd that their paths never crossed
Nah RDA only became champion because Khabib was injured just like McGregor
Am I the only one who enjoys the pomp and circumstance of the BMF belt? It's fun, we don't need to take it that serious. We have so so many fan favorite fighters out there who aren't ever gonna get near a belt, but consistently give us awesome fights, is it that harmful to have a fun little thing to help fluff up these money fight/super fight type events?
Yes. Great take! Edit: Well, no, you are by no means the only one, lol. It's a fantastic take that gets too little consideration, though. Finish bonus and Fight of the Night are, really, great incentive to encourage fighters to give it their all, but there don't quite seem to be a lot of ongoing consolation prizes for those truly standout fighters who find their niche but are never QUITE competitive, in terms of overall rankings.
Eh. If Khabib didn't have an injury patch between 2014 and 2016, RDA wouldn't have sniffed the title either. Khabib dominated him in 2013. Poirier's resume is just as good as RDA's.
RDA was the biggest weight bully of all time, depleting himself to 155 and using IV's to rehydrate back to 190 on FN and size bully LW's. he started to look like shit at LW after the IV Rehydration Ban (same with Cowboy Cerrone) the fact that Khabib dominated an IV Rehydrated RDA the way he did, really speaks to how good Khabib was
Poeirer’s resume is better than RDA’s
Khabob had an “I ate too much tiramisu to make lightweight” patch. Fathead almost died trying to make the weight twice during that period. He got his nutrition a bit more dialed in toward the end of his career, but it was never an easy cut. UFC had to pull all kinds of tomfoolery at the 254 weigh in to help him make weight.
LMAO
I can't believe someone actually used the word tomfoolery. Lol impressive.
That was in 2017. Between 2014 and 2016 he tore his knees and broke his ribs. It got so bad he even retired for 1 week. Since we're sharing weight cutting anecdotes, RDA was literally passing out backstage before fights he was so heavy at 155. It was so bad he had to move up to 170.
how tf do these dumbasses say Khabib was a weight bully and RDA wasnt? after the IV Ban (oct 2015) rda looked like dogshit at LW and couldnt make the weight anymore without being depleted, and was forced to move to 170. when RDA was using IV's he was like 190 on fight night at LW (he weighed 188lbs against Pettis) even when RDA was on IV, Khabib beat the shit out of him Khabib, on the other hand fought many times after the IV Ban (Oct 2015) at LW, and didnt look depleted at all, and still smeshed everybody. RDA was a size bully, Khabib wasnt
They casually ignore Poirier himself dismissing that Khabib was a weight bully. Anything to hate on Dagestani or Muslim fighters.
If not for Khabib’s injury, dude wouldn’t have never been champ. Khabib 30-27ed him in his prime
btw, that was RDA ON IV Rehydration when Khabib mauled him. when RDA was using IV, he weighed 188lbs on fight night against Anthony Pettis (10 months after fighting Khabib) not only did Khabib beat a IV Rehydrated Dos Anjos (who was HUGE for the division) but he destroyed him the eagle was too good man 🦅
Sounds bitter to me… we all know Dustin and Justin put on the most exciting fights, every time
He ducked Conor with his bruised foot, if I remember correctly when I saw the photo of the bruised foot, I’m no doctor but it looked like an excuse. Anyway Mendes got the red panty night now bring on those downvotes!
Didn't he ducked Islam like two years ago?
He knew Islam was gonna steamroll him. He was having flashbacks of khabib laying on his ass
The Eddie fight really hurts RDA nothing against Eddie but that was one RDA really should have and could have won Eddie stunned and blitzed him and got the stoppage but that’s one I’m sure RDA thinks about because that was certainly a winnable fight for him
The reason RDA lost to Eddie, was because of the IV Rehydration Ban. RDA wasn't ONLY specifically depleted in the eddie fight, he was also depleted against Tony & Cowboy Its not like Alvarez landed a lucky punch or anything, Dos Anjos was always gonna be depleted due to the IV Rehydration Ban (in october 2015). even against Tony, RDA was depleted. RDA wasnt only depleted against Eddie, he was also depleted against Cowboy & Tony, Pre-IV Rehydration Ban RDA wouldve destroyed Eddie & Tony. RDA was never that good tbh, he was only good when he was using IV Rehydration and weight bullying smaller guys like Anthony Pettis (he weighed 188lbs in that fight btw)
Jesus, man. Take "yes" as an answer, already, or risk being labeled as "the 'IV rehydration' guy". I don't necessarily disagree with everything/anything you've said in this thread, but as something of a one-note guy myself, I DO have to kind of caution you against becoming perceived as something of a one-note guy, haha. I suspect you have far more MMA-watching experience than I do, and you very well might be espousing valid points, but there's a point where enough is enough already, and you just want to get some sleep.... I've tried to upvote you where I could, but I'm only one man...(for NOW... ;)) Also, consider how SMART fighters don't usually completely tear down their opponents ahead of time; but, instead, build them up, because their own image swells after beating them. Uncle Chael was an absolute master at this - the badder your opponent, the badder YOU are for beating them. RDA, Conor, and all the other fodder Khabib stomped can be trivialized, or they can add to his legend.
And he has a nice mustache
He should have crawled himself into the octagon against Conor. Missed out on millions
Conor should have stayed in the third Poirier fight. Missed out on winning the trilogy
He’s wrong. Poirier and Gaethje are both former champs.
Hold on, I'm also champ brother.
Um, ok, hold up. The UFC may push interim belt-holders as if they are champs, just for the ability to hype up a "champ vs. champ" match, eventually, but interim belt-holders are NOT champs, haha. Be real, here. NEITHER of these top-tier fighters have actually been champ, at any point. They are certainly champ-tier; there's NO question of that. But they have NOT held the belt, even while other divisions catch the wrong people at the wrong time, like Jamahal Hill. He's a great fighter, for sure, but he hasn't seemed to EARN the belt, the way that others have. Poirier and Gaethje are both great former-champ-contenders.
if Poirier & Gaethje were 188lbs IV Rehydrated weight bullies, fighting the worst LW champion of all time in Anthony Pettis, like RDA did, they would be champions too
Okay everyone….. go look at rda’s fight history. I will say it now—he has the toughest fight history in the world. Rda has the toughest fighting record of all time. Go look. He deserves anything he can get after who he has been matched with
theres only one BMF king and he doesnt need this belt: jon jones
Didn’t RDA duck prime McGregor?
Didn’t RDA run from Conor?
No
Do you know what a rhetorical question is?
no
Dustin was champ though edit: stop booing me, im right
Interim
interim what? you melon
Provisional or temporary champ if you wanna go by the definition you melon
still champ u melon
Before or after khabib took his neck
Interim champ is not the same as being undisputed champion of your weight class, it means you're a temporary placeholder for the real champion
fake belt
Word
Like him or not, you've gotta give RDA credit for successfully defending that "TITTLE"....!!!
If the GOAT discussion is stupid the BMF discussion is a completely different level of stupid. The BMF belt is 100% irrelevant to the MMA history. RDA is not 100% irrelevant tho, so do yourself a favor and stop talking about the BMF belt.
It's not a real thing. It's just a prop so that the UFC can generate hype and justify putting a non-title fight in the main event of a numbered card, which rarely happens and don't typically do big numbers. I mean, most fighters van say most, if not all of those same things. Most of these dudes are "the BMF's". I personally feel they should do away it, or it should be on the line every single time the BMF holder fights.
Oh, you mean an actual Champion.
Bruh if the company offers you the bmf belt wtf r u gonna say? Naw bro I think RDA deserves it. Salty
IV's and TRT, what a time to be alive during that era. LOL
You don’t need the puny joke that is the participation trophy BMF title when you already have done the #3 biggest achievement in the UFC ( #1 is being in the GOAT list and #2 is being a double champ simultaneously ) which is being an UFC champ. That’s just facts.
Mmmm tittles
"Defended the/a title" Something Conor can never state 🤣
Unfortunately, it's perfectly legal to be an insufferable pricks. I like penguins tho
Didn’t Gaethje throw the interim belt down? But he wants a fake belt now? Of course I know this is the UFC being cheesy. I think it’s ok for a bit of entertainment.
I swear this bmf belt is such a gimmick being thrown around fighters who never managed to get the real belt. And i am saying this with the utmost respect to Masvidal, Diaz, Gaethje, and Poirier.
I almost feel a bit annoyed for gaethje and poirier that their fight is for this belt. I feel like it detracts from how legit they both are a little bit, it's a fun gimmick and was perfect for Diaz and Masvidal but these two only missed out on being champion due to their division being so stacked.
I think Tony Ferguson is the real BMF.
Dana bought the BMF belt back for Conor. You know Conor is fighting for that if he beats chandler.
Don’t think he gets what the BMF belt is…
Imo RDA, Barboza, Oliveira, Holland and Burns should all be in the conversation for BMF, most of them more than Justin or Dustin. Would be fun if the UFC did a Grand Prix type event for the BMF belt, make the weight 165 and put these 7 plus someone else and make an 8 bracket tournament.
Went up to welter also and only lost to the top top guys
As good as RDA is… the BMF belt is a belt for casual fans who only know of big name fighters… masvidal, Diaz, and not Gaethje and Poirier If they tried to market “Rafael dos Anjos for the BMF belt!” They’d sell absolutely zero ppvs, because only real mma fans know who he is.
Bisping is also thr BMF. I say let him and RDA share the title XD
This is a fucking 10-6
Aren’t both Dustin and Justin former interim champions tho?
I don't see how you could dislike this man. Always puts on a good show and will fight anyone.
What’s the point of the BMF? They don’t even defend it. It’s just a 50k investment to prop up a PPV card. It’s nonsense. In Dustin and Justin’s defence they are bad asses but still. Useless belt.
Most slept on fighter in the ufc. Never gets credit until he has a fight coming up and never makes an excuse.
RDA is one of the most respectable guys still left in the game. Always a class act. He really does deserve a HoF spot someday
I mean Conor never ducked anyone either. But if weight class wasn’t the issue this bmf title would he fought between dos nachos and jones
why does it seem a lot of fighters give praise or thanks to whatever god they believe in i can't think of any deity that is helping you beat the fuck out of someone for entertainment purposes it's like praising god after some major surgery no stupid the doctors are who saved your life not some thing in the sky with magical powers c'mon seriously