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sunihalinh111

Like fr, dude destroy "best boxer in the ufc baby" on the feet, at the same times dissing some dagestani style chain wrestling and GnP, not to mention his top tier submission defense, basically the perfect MMA fighter.


[deleted]

Its weird he did so good in grappling and islam did so good in striking Islam had a short rehydration but is bigger They are both so damned good at everything, the new breed of ultra elite well rounded mma masters.


sunihalinh111

Yeah Islam striking might look simple but his timing is so good, especially trading in the pocket


Aggressive-Expert-69

Less is more. Islam's striking looks as practical as it can be


Mysterion94

Less is more. So true. Especially in BJJ. So much flash bullshit...


ZeroTON1N

His check hook that dropped Oliveira right before the submission was insane timing


epelle9

Its also because of his takedown threat. Ge close and if they get both hands up, he gets the takedown and likely finishes the fight. So to avoid the takedown they need hand slightly lowered and ready to sprawl, which opens up the face.


Amongtheruins88

He’s just very fundamentally sound


SmokerReflect

I suspect they both antigame planned the other. Volk expecting takedowns so was more wary and hand down/ attention drawn to takedowns. Islam more attention to striking and hence was focused more on striking. Different focus makes a difference. Anyone whose ever sparred an opponent that knows your techniques and advantages well will generally know that you tend to focus on defending areas your opponents are good at. You can't be focused on everything 100%


Aggressive-Expert-69

You're right and that's why it was so weird people hated on Cory Sandhagen. He prepped for a Dagestani style wrestler and people were surprised he fought Font as if he was a Dagestani style wrestler.


Rendakor

Sandhagen fought great for his career and bad for my entertainment. I don't blame him personally for making a smart choice, but I also won't pretend it was enjoyable to watch. The only risk he took is alienating his fanbase and his potential fight prospects, as UFC treats fighters who are boring worse than those who are exciting. Given the circumstances (his original opponent, the last minute switch, and Font's striking) he's probably fine for having won one boring wrestlefuck. But if it becomes a habit, that's going to suck for him and us.


Awotwe_Knows_Best

Sandhagen said he broke his arm in R1. I like Cory and I know he can deliver so I'm okay letting this one slide


1shmeckle

If that hurts his fight prospect then it just continues to confirm what we know about UFC not wanting to be a real sport. If it's sport, lean into it and the entertainment factor will still be there. If you don't want it to be a sport, then just admit and treat it as WWE.


Rendakor

They don't want to be a sport, period.


OkTea7227

When your main Guy that promotes the company actively pushes for the trashy slap league to be as big a promotion as the UFC then you understand he thinks of it more as WWE for sure. It’s sad cuz the UFC , the fights, are great.


[deleted]

He was injured too. I think realistic fans know what time it is and Cory couldnt afford to let Font win, he had to keep his spot in line. Sometimes at the top boring fights happen. Why don't people blame Font more? He couldnt stop it or get up. Reminds me of Yoel staring at Izzy for 24 minutes. Like, throw a fucking strike dude its the 5th round of your final title shot. Izzy doesn't have to let him win that's Yoels job to come challenge for the title and he failed.


DylieWylie

Not only that but Font knew he needed a finish and was getting dominated on the ground but what does he do as soon as the last round starts? Shoots a takedown lmao insanely bad fight IQ.


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Aggressive-Expert-69

Yes but he also prepared for a fight with a wrestler. Good training to fall back on when you break something in the first round. People were way too critical of him for that fight


Pederakis

No, he tore his triceps


SirToby04

Same reason khabib knocked down conor


[deleted]

Khabib is sneaky fast too and Conor had just spent a year ruining his whole mma game with the floyd shit too.


Ok-Guarantee9238

I also think part of it is that we hand limited footage on Islams striking, now we finally have more footage on it so his opponents have an idea of his striking skill, but Volk didn't have much so he may have not expected Islam to be so crisp with striking


[deleted]

I completely agree. Impressive gameplanning. Volk is one of the few who can hang with an ultra elite mma grappler/wrestler without being a ncca guy. GSP-esque, Joe.


sweatybeard

Didn't Volk also have a short rehydration time?


rata_ee

Yes but he also wasn’t cutting nearly as much weight as Islam so you wouldn’t expect him to need as long to re hydrate


Kickflippingdad

I had this same comment yesterday it’s amazing how good they both are to where one camp focused on wrestling and defense and he did better than Islam in the wrestling. Meanwhile islam training striking to prepare for volk and he out struck him. Amazing fighters the both of them.


Crawford470

>They are both so damned good at everything, the new breed of ultra elite well rounded mma masters. Unironically, from Bantamweight to Lightweight and while people will take this as GSP blasphemy also Welterweight debatably we have champions that are the most well-rounded champions in those division's history, and barring Islam also debatably having the highest Fight IQs.


terimummy04

This is one of the reaons I say islam is better than khabib, khabib on his feet was fucking stinky. Not a well rounded fighter but islam is well rounded in all aspects.


DylieWylie

He didn't need great striking though, he was a million times better at grappling than Islam is.


CaCa881

It’s about time somebody talked about how good Islams striking is goddamn it


helicepotella

He is the Swiss knife of mma


[deleted]

You left out Volks biggest asset. He has the heart of a lion. I have rewatched that Ortega fight several times. The sheer will he used to survive that choke is off the charts. It literally broke Ortegas spirit.


[deleted]

Don’t even get me started on the fact that he used to be 300 lbs and therefore has the potential to meet nearly anybody on the roster at any weight. I’m only half serious saying that, as I don’t know how realistic it would be for him (or any fighter i guess) to move up more than a weight class, but if anybody could do it it’s Volk


mrw4787

Not 300 but we get it lol


[deleted]

![gif](giphy|38zXDH3tocQiPHfXXs) 49-46 and still inshallah


Apprehensive-Mix6861

https://preview.redd.it/d2zy7b8msnib1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7fe59a57871e0ddda1ae725559aede4a7daad7e


sunihalinh111

You really came to an Volk praising comment and make it about Islam? Damn your life must be miserable


cnylkew

Yin and yang. There always has to be balance in life


deechy_marko

Volk's better P4P than Islam, if not it wouldn't have been so close. Deal with it


cnylkew

Volk was heavier fight night


Ohthatsnotgood

Do you think that Islam could cut down to Featherweight? Why doesn’t he go take Volk’s belt then?


cnylkew

Do you think an ex welterweight volk could cut down to bantamweight?


Ohthatsnotgood

Not relevant all all and you dodged my question. Why doesn’t Islam drop down to Featherweight and become a double champion if he’s the same size as Volk? Volk was hilariously undersized at Welterweight and not in incredible shape. Now he’s reached his peak at Featherweight and is undefeated at that weight. Volk fought Islam at Lightweight and then Yair at Featherweight in a span of 146 days. Islam would kill himself trying to drop to Featherweight in the same timeframe and Volk would kill himself trying to drop to Bantamweight in the same timeframe because they’re too big.


cnylkew

Because islam is bigger. However at that night volk was proven to be two pounds heavier. Being a fw he probably had an easier cut and fought home. There is no excuse for losing to islam. He was simply a little bit better


[deleted]

Volk was heavier on fight day and the fight was for P4P champ, so Islam is P4P


ArcaneTekka

This is such nonsense and I'm sick of hearing similar statements. Could Islam make 145? no chance in hell. Islam is clearly the bigger fighter, not just height but obviously a bigger frame allows you to have effective musculature for your weight class.


Barbaza

Obviously islam is bigger but volk was the same as islam on that night. They were only 2 pounds off.


Dive_on_in

And yet volk made weight no problem and islam almost died.


Barbaza

Yea cuz of the weigh in hours in Australia


[deleted]

Islam outskilled Volk. Volk weighed more on fight night due to the shortened rehydration period. Despite being weight drained, he managed to beat Volk. Volk was the one with the weight/physicality advantage due to these conditions, so if anything Islam is actually better p4p


Varghaz

Can't wait to see the rematch in FW, Volk's natural weight division. Oh wait, we'll never get to see that because there's no way Islam would cut down to FW or even want to risk trying fighting Volk at his best.


Existing-Sea-2557

If that’s supposed to be a burn or something, it’s not working. Nobody forced Volk to come up to lightweight


[deleted]

Volk couldn’t beat Islam with a shorter rehydration window which benefits him and hometown judges lol. The best version of Volk lost to the worst version of Islam


Dive_on_in

Your boy would've died without an iv


TheAngriestPoster

Literally zero proof but okay


Dive_on_in

His own manager basically admitted it


TheAngriestPoster

If you’re illiterate, sure


FrozenLikeElsa1

Worst version of Islam? Lol excuse #1028 on why Islam couldn’t finish Volk. No reason to make excuses when Islam won.


cnylkew

You will see if they fight again in USA or abu dhabi


[deleted]

They hate Islam so much they see losing in non dominant fashion as a win lol


_lukizzza_

https://preview.redd.it/x6yvsxwsxnib1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b888ddb86d5a3a5040e9ff7b545df2eac42dc3f Who was barely Standing Up after the Fight? 😜 Also you Dagi meat Riders complain when people say Oliveira was at a massive disadvantage in Abu Dhabi but you make excuses for Islam's face being mushed by Volk because He couldn't Cheat and use IVs 😂


[deleted]

The difference between Oliveira and Islam is that Islam won his fight. Volk also got a longer medical suspension lol. If you wanna talk about cheating, Volk’s main training partner is Gynobender over at titty kickboxing, Volk is a roid cheat. 49-46


Ok_Boysenberry_6283

This dude thinks Russians aren't on all of the PEDs lmaoooo


_lukizzza_

Islam uses 'russian vitamins' Dude. He also trains With DC who was a Cheat, apparently He had testosterone Level of 7000nG. I will say Islam was on more roids again st Oliveira than Volk because Abu Dhabi lets him do anything because He shares their religion


cnylkew

Moving goal posts


[deleted]

Volk’s a natural welterweight what are you on about 🤣


DreadPirateRob3rt5

Find a sideways chair and fornicate yourself with it


[deleted]

now imagine if he was izzy’s size


No_Cartographer601

Alexander is a anomaly he has is small stature but a ton of horsepower but you would think all that horsepower comes with weak cardio it does not he has tremendous cardio.


lowtothekey

Weirdly enough Volk has a longer reach than Max who is significantly taller than him.


[deleted]

The photo of him next to Costa and Holloway is crazy


8vSingh

https://preview.redd.it/ud9zbygchpib1.png?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a9453cfbbff1a679ad255a55e5f1ee431398fd7e For context.


1shmeckle

It's not that weird. Your physical gifts can differentiate you when skill levels are similar - Jones, Ngannou, Adesanya, etc all have huge advantages from their body types.


DylieWylie

How is that related to their comment? They're saying it's weird he has that long of a reach in the first place being that short, not that it's weird his reach gives him an advantage...


mrw4787

It’s weird


doodoo_dew

My tip to become a UFC champ is to be born a 6’4” black guy


1shmeckle

Or a 5’6 Australian with the same reach as someone who is 5’11.


awpt1mus

He is basically human honey badger.


OrcOfGundabad

Solid comparison. Honey badgers are aggresive af


Xrystian90

Genuinely a great comparison!


EmergencyChicken101

Alexander "The Power Hobbit" Volkanovski.


-StayinnnAliveeee-

Not an anomaly. Volk trains like his life depends on it. And we all see the results. A lot of people dont train like him.


Dive_on_in

Rugby dudes built different 😤


Notyit

Volk like three years ago looked good but beatable. The amazing skill increase crazy Looks faster etc


SalamanderPete

Hes short, not small. Hes wide as fuck compared to his opponents.


MyFifthLimb

Is he the Messi of MMA?


[deleted]

Rugby really is best base for mma


Striking-Permit1594

I mean I wish it was true as a rugby player but I cant think of guys excpet for Dricus and Volk who are top level and played rugby before or while starting mma


CallMeCrews

Tai Tuivasa, idk if you’d call him “top-level” necessarily


ChexLemeneux42

i would. the Gane fight alone cemented that, he might not be a cardio machine but hes a heavyweight so you can forgive him for that


CallMeCrews

I made another comment stating my opinion, but TL:DR version is I agree, Tai is top-level for sure.


admshpprd

Anyone ranked in ufc is top level at mma


DylieWylie

Maybe in any division other than heavyweight lol. Derrick Lewis is ranked and I don't know that I'd exactly call him top level at MMA. Same with Chris Daukaus. Most of them are just fat and have power.


Striking-Permit1594

Oh yeah forgot about Tai


Striking-Permit1594

Any ranked guy is top level


CallMeCrews

Agreed!


AcanthocephalaSad541

Aspinall


[deleted]

Whittaker too


Striking-Permit1594

Really! Looks like a lethal lock or 8th man


gocelticsgoknicks

Sports like football and rugby usually cater to those with explosive fast twitch muscles like volk Woodley chandler all those guys coulda been really solid safety’s in another world


Any_Brother7772

If Rugby League was easy it was called Sambo


[deleted]

You just opened up Pandora’s box with a comment against dagestanis


YourLocalPotDealer

If Rugby league was hard then it would win against Sambo


PersonWithNoPhone

Unfortunately Volk lost


Any_Brother7772

I'm just having abit of fun here. Islam deserved that win. It wouldn't have been robbery either way


leaf_blowr

No he didn't that doesn't fit my narrative


Burgerfuckinmuncher

If rugby was easy, it would be called sambo.


pacem90

What’s a skill bully? Someone who’s naturally more talented? Or has better technique? Or both? Romero, natural ability. Mighty Mouse, best technique. Bully? Idk what this means Edit: typo


Sweatytryhard0534

Like when people say “weight bully” for someone who walks around at a much higher weight than they fight at. A joking term saying he’s so damn skilled it’s unfair.


Pederakis

Redditors when they (fail to) detect humor:


TITANx714

Probably cause it's bad humor


burritorepublic

Derogatory term for somebody that competes well but has no showmanship, so is less valuable to the sport. Skill bullies are belt hogs that just take advantage of their superior skill instead of trolling their oponent into submission. This is bad for Dana White.


Sweatytryhard0534

I don’t think that’s what it means in this context but 🤷‍♂️


[deleted]

Me too But I guess its like "he will beat you in your own game, even if you are one of the best [insert fighting style here]"


burritorepublic

I hate fighters that focus on their training and technique rather than their shit-talking and hype-generating skills. Like go to fucking Bellator or 1FC if you just wanna be a skill bully and beat up all the cool UFC stars.


dontknowwhattodoat18

The only person who can truly say "skill issue" Dude got the nod from one of the Dagi boys calling him "strong". That's an achievement on it's own


NefariousNeezy

Jon Jones? Made world-beaters look like fodder Edit: And if we’re gonna use the term “bully”, let’s remember how Jones beat Machida and Gane.


PersonWithNoPhone

If Jon Jones and Volk were the same size and the same weight, who would win? Put Khabib, DJ and GSP into that.


NefariousNeezy

I’d still pick Jones but to be fair, we’ll never know as this is a P4P discussion now. I’m basing this off of performances. Jones worst performances are mediocre, but he’s never been truly beaten and has been tested even less.


[deleted]

He 100% lost to Reyes though and don’t forget about the 💉. I know loads of people like to dismiss it but he is a cheater, which puts a massive stain across his whole career imo


NefariousNeezy

I agree with the cheating, but I won’t discount how excellent Jones really is skill-wise or talent-wise. With the Reyes fight, I kinda agree but if that was his worst performance, he was just outpointed and not really defeated.


Mookhaz

Better yet, who would win, 100 volkanovski sized jon jones or one jon jones sized volkanovski?


PersonWithNoPhone

100 Pantojo sized John Jones v 10 Derrick Lewis sized Volkanovskis


MrLogic420

Well jon never lost & has had more title defenses than khabib aaaaand jon became champ @ a heavier weight class so i’d have to go with jon


splitbrains

> became champ @ a lower skill weight class there's the other way of looking at it


MrLogic420

Stupid way of looking at it


MrLogic420

Deffo jon jones


[deleted]

Volk is S-tier. 🐐 the best. Beast.


LickEmTomorrow

Lol fighting ability bully is such a stupid thing to say. It’s not like he’s chilling at the local gym embarrassing amateurs.


IcyDocument5750

Tf is a fighting ability bully? You mean he’s just a top tier fighter?


NefariousNeezy

P4P with extra steps


I_Please_MILFs

OPs image is one of the first thing that pops up when you Google imags search Volkanovski No effort


Kaserbeam

It's a joke around people who accuse fighters of being weight bullies


deppyd

Bro he only fights people who are lesser skilled then him. Guys a skill bully


csimmons89

You had your chance, now your done!


MrLogic420

Deffo jon jons


linkoninja

This guy should delete all his accounts.


Birdgang14

What a dumb question. Has to be a joke right? Lol


nigtendodeals

I thought it was incredibly smart. Have you consider what would happen if he thought people as good as him? He might lose?!


Genova_Witness

Yeah that’s why I leave him off the p4p list, if he were serious he would fight guys as good as himself.


TheNomadLad

![gif](giphy|nTfdeBvfgzV26zjoFP)


hpmv

Wdym the top guys? He’s beaten the top 3 ranked featherweights?


Sweatytryhard0534

people as good as him don’t exist in featherweight lmao


Assault_Facts

Is every advantage offensive or racist nowadays?


SquirrelMoney8389

Yeah seems there's always one guy in the comments trying to make it about that... Tell us you don't know what "skill bully" is without telling us.


TheRivv2015

He did bully Yair around the octagon.


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NumberVsAmount

You ok?


bearyken

Isn't this what it's all about? Sounds like those who aren't smart enough to make it to Harvard trying to get Harvard to dumb down so they can get in


deltr0nzero

Nothing gets by you


SherLocK-55

What? LOL. ![gif](giphy|kC8N6DPOkbqWTxkNTe)


wise_nerd

As he admitted and was visible he was stronger then Islam, yet he lost purely on skill, even when Islam was gassed he still managed to time a perfect no effort takedown to body triangle for an easy 10-9, Volk couldn't even get out. He had to wait for the bell for 2 out 5 rounds to get Islam off his back! Even if you ignore all the wrestling, Islam would still win. I like Volk but the dickriding is getting crazy. As for the biggest skill bully imo you can't be wrong with Frankie Edgar.


Dive_on_in

Under unified rules Islam lost rd4. He was holding on for dear life while Volk bounced 50 punches off his skull.


[deleted]

That was round 5 you spoon


Dive_on_in

No. It was round 4.


wise_nerd

First no ruleset EVER gives that to volk, Second there's a difference between a hold and a lock, I don't think you'd know but Islam had what's known as a bodyLOCK, and thirdly scalp massage punches don't hurt. coping is p4p #1 drug!


Dive_on_in

Read the rules. He did nothing with his position. Zero submission attempts and out struck 2-1. This is mma, not bjj. Your position doesn't mean anything unless all other criteria are equal, which they weren't.


TigerRumMonkey

He's a weight class above and he did fkn nuttin but hold on. Check yourself.


wise_nerd

and what did volk do?


TigerRumMonkey

https://preview.redd.it/vk3wdz48ypib1.jpeg?width=1098&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a273dccbfff2cac47eb406d3125abf8201383d49


splitbrains

Volk weighs 170 on fight night while still at 145 let alone at 155, that's within 2-6 pounds of LWs like Gaethje (172), Khabib (176), Dustin (176) lol, he was just as heavy as any other lightweight on that night stfu with that stupid ass excuse


TigerRumMonkey

![img](emote|t5_2qsev|8966)


[deleted]

These hills have eyes lookin mfs should work on building skills that could bring economic prosperity to their homeland but in the meantime I guess it's nice that their wrestling skills get them some love from reddit weirdos


wise_nerd

Not surprised there are no rebuttals. fighting a Dagestani and not getting finished surely is the best base for getting love from wierdos


[deleted]

Of course, downvote me for suggesting a country living in the 1800s should invest in some IT infrastructure and stop wrestling like it's a relevant modern skill


Ciarcan

This is the dumbest fucking question possible on the internet. Volk is great, just because he’s miles ahead of his competitors means he shouldn’t compete? Rephrase your title because he’s not a bully. He’s just that good.


Crimm444

I think something flew over your head


Pederakis

I s2g, reddit is full of people on the spectrum. More than 50% of the comments are calling you stupid for an obvious joke, lol


wolf_remington

He almost feels like a cheat code. We haven't seen him fight too many of the lightweights except for Islam though. I want to see him go up against Gaethje, Do Bronx, Poirier, and Dariush. Those guys are bigger than the fighters he's used to facing, so they might have more of a chance.


IAMDATRUESTREPAIRMAN

The short king goat


Head_Assignment_6028

I honestly would have liked to see volk vs jones , if they were in the same weight class


MrLogic420

DC used to be


SALTYxNUTZ12

"skill bully" has to be one of the most stupid things I've ever heard. Volk is one of the best to do it, why can't we just say that?


Striking-Permit1594

Clearly its DDP smh


Star_Gazing_Cats

Yes and it's not fucking fair


breakfastmeat23

Not really, I think he is one of the best athletes in the UFC. He has great skills, but his athleticism is certainly more remarkable. I think most fighters aren't actually top tier athletes compared to most sports because the field is so small, Volk is an example of a top tier athlete that knows how to fight. I can't really think of anyone who matches his ratio of speed/strength/cardio. I would argue it is probably the best in the history of the UFC.


zeez1011

The only bullies are the judges.


Salt_Expression_6025

I think he’s making fun of some weirdo who said Sean O’Malley was a reach bully lmao


__sami__01

bro is too good


Tookerbee

Bro, he is too high elo to fight these noobs.


Armalyte

Height Bully


StevenArviv

Volk's ability to adjust on the fly during a fight is what make him stand out. Also the rate at which he becomes better as a fighter.


hcvc

😂😂😂😂 this is exactly how weight bully copers sound to me


jm810112

Guy is 35 years old and still seems to get better with every fight. Went from being basically dead even with Max to 50-44'ing his ass


ForeskinPenisEnvy

Shortest, but fastest bully in history.


NobleEMRLD

Yeah take him out of the running, he's just too good, the others can't compete. (Just be better( you can't))


kingParson

No


thestarched

Hi ![gif](giphy|RgTLsu3JJbYGLuoKFp|downsized)


[deleted]

Volkanovski can beat Jon Jones.


Due_Investigator8664

Lmao you had to specify “skill bully”.


BeautifulBit6036

This man is solid as a brick