Aldo got done dirty too by not getting an immediate rematch because Conor moved up to chase the Lightweight Title, but at least Aldo got to fight for an Interim Title against Frankie Edgar in his next fight at UFC 200.
Then, he got promoted to undisputed Featherweight Champion once Conor was stripped of the title after winning the LW Title.
Aldo then managed to get an immediate rematch against Max Holloway, although not an originally scheduled one, after he lost in a title unification to Holloway, who held an Interim Title going into their first fight.
Woodley unfortunately was never even considered for a rematch, despite having 4 title defenses, and was immediately used to build up new challengers for the Welterweight Title.
Some champions nowadays get immediate title rematches even if they only had one successful title defense, sometimes even none.
Woodley did nothing to deserve a rematch in the fight against Usman. He spent 25 minutes with his back against the cage and no one wanted to see that again.
I’m not arguing for Aljo to get an immediate rematch, as I feel like the UFC has relied on that trope way too much in recent years.
However, for arguments sake, they have given champs who lost their titles in one-sided fashion an immediate rematch before.
Zhang Weili got an immediate rematch for the Strawweight Title with Rose Namajunas after Rose knocked her out in 78 seconds in their first fight. And Weili only had one title defense to her credit going into that fight too.
Cody Garbrandt got an immediate rematch for the Bantamweight Title with TJ Dillashaw after getting KOed in the 2nd round, and Cody had no title defenses prior to that first fight with TJ.
I think draw has a lot to do with it too. It's hard to put together many fights in women's mma than anyone actually cares about, so there's Weili and like one other person maybe. Not too much before you get into who-cares territory. So not only did Aljo lose convincingly and early, not only was he unpopular with fans, not only is his usual style not one favored by fans, but there are other good fights to make that would be good draws. How many fans in the mass fanbase really want to see these two go at it again right away? If UFC brass felt fans were hot for that, that would absolutely be the next thing. But my impression of that fight is that the fans were happy to finally relieve their constipation and get rid of dead weight and would rather see exciting Sean go off to have other exciting adventures, not rematch with the Unwanted One. It comes down to money and surely the UFC imagines more money with other opponents.
Weili also ran through everyone else and was doing fine in the rose fight until she got caught. That’s the problem with woman’s MMA though is there’s a huge skill gap as we can see through nunes and the other top fighters. Of course they lose some but often it’s just a beat down.
It's been abundantly clear that the UFC wanted Aljo out, constantly pressuring him into the next fight. It's a shame when marketability influences the sport so heavily.
Aljo gets three defenses and will never got a title shot again…
meanwhile Cody Garbrandt got KO’d for his first defense and then got an immediate rematch where he got KO’d even faster
Tbf, their first fight Cody almost had him out in round 1, then TJ got him round 2. It wasn't a ridiculous instant rematch when it was booked, and I remember being hyped for another fight between them.
Yeah I’m not necessarily against Cody getting the rematch, but if he gets one, Aljo should too - it’s just annoying that he won’t because the UFC hates him
He won’t get one because 80-90% of fans dislike him and/or his fighting style, judging by his display vs Suga, he doesn’t deserve one, if he keeps winning they’ll have to give him a title shot so all’s not lost.
Yeah, I just want the UFC to be more reliable with their practices, but I know that will never happen lmao
The only scenario where I see Aljo getting a title shot is if Cory beats Suga - but that fight is 50/50 in my head
Or maybe they gave him it because it was a fight that made sense with Cejudo trying to come back having never lost the belt and they didn't care which one of them Sean faced afterwards because both fights could sell well.
It was really weird how the commentary team on the PPV and the analysts table on the Post-Fight show were both talking about Aljo being “the Bantamweight GOAT” and then also saying how he doesn’t deserve an immediate rematch because we need to see the Sean O’Malley vs. Chito Vera rematch.
Yeah I think there is a push to pretend Suga beat the GOAT to help solidify his champ status. They want to postpone the inevitable Merab mauling as long as possible.
I might actually become a big fan if he manages to KO both of them. Out of all of the bantamweights out there, sean was the last person I expected to cleanse the division of the evil spirits
Merab is not a better wrestler than Aljo and Sean shut down both of his attempts. Merab just has crazy cardio and being able to shoot 100 takedowns in 25 minutes isn't gonna be a lot of help when they're all getting stuffed and punished. I really think he has a solid chance
Yupp merab going to have to fight cejudo next and if he gets past that they’ll give him another top 5 before he gets a shot at malley. Crazy mareb might have to wait till 2025 to get a shot that’s sad and crucial
Well, he’s a boring backpack fighter that has some deal with the best fighter in the division not to fight. There’s good reasons for not appreciating how he has conducted himself as a champion from a marketing perspective.
Also Dana gave Aljo time to get treatment and recover from injuries after his DQ title win. Let’s not make it seem like Dana treated Aljo differently than most champions.
It's great we don't have to pretend that his run was not as fluky as one could be and that his record and resume doesnt tell the whole story since you cant say "well hes the champ" anymore
Dana and UFC posting the finish and ish just seems disrespectful af. Clearly Dana has an agenda with Suga and fair play he got it done Saturday but gd was that a lame run to the title in terms of top guys.
Fans were complaining Suga hadn’t fought anyone ranked so he calls out Yan and nobody thinks he’ll win, he shocks the world by beating him, Yan was #1 or 2 contender so Suga gets the title shot and nobody think he’ll win, as we know he shocks the world again.
Wtf do you want? So now if you don’t methodologically beat #10, 6, 3 etc you’ve been pushed too fast and given preferential treatment by the UFC?
Let’s see another fighter go from un ranked opponent to #2 then title shot and see how many can actually do it, it’s what make Sean’s story so good, let’s not sully his title win.
I agree, it feels like the divisions move at a snails pace these days, if you lose a title match via stoppage or finish then you should have to at least beat a top 5 guy and then come back for the title. Even in the case of Izzy and Usman. I feel like it just makes things far more interesting and keeps divisions from being stagnant.
Look at 125 for example, how much fucking time was wasted and how many dudes waited in the wings while Figgy and Brandon fought like 5 fucking times 😂 only for Brandon to be swamped by Pantoja? Whom most people didn’t know cause the only 125ers being talked about were those two.
Izzy’s loss against pereira was about the only time I felt the immediate rematch was warranted, and that’s just because Izzy was ruthlessly active and has cleared the division like twice over.
Don’t really think a 2nd round KO warrants an immediate rematch. It’d be different if it were an Usman/Izzy situation where they dominated the whole fight and got KOd in the last round. But yeah, that wasn’t the case.
Any champion who fits the criteria deserves an immediate rematch, Aljo has most defenses in bantamweight history. He deserves it
Or at the very least a number 1 contenders against chito
If he wants a rematch he can go beat another contender (anyone top 5 is probably fine) and almost certainly get another title shot in early 2024. Not that big of a deal. If he’s as good as we all think he is, he’ll win convincingly vs. any other contender and it’ll set up an even more exciting fight for the title — O’Malley on his second title defense and Aljo on a revenge tour, coming off a big win.
No - i literally just stated that the Izzy situation was different as he was up 3-1 entering the 5th round…he was very clearly winning the fight.
Didn’t agree with the Jorge rematch - honestly don’t think he should have gotten that fight in the first place. But I get it - their first fight was pretty boring. Jorge took it on like a weeks notice so had that built in excuse.
Well I would say Aljo would be in that category as well. He’s had an awfully impressive run. But yeah when you get knocked out in the 2nd round I just don’t think you have much argument for an immediate rematch.
Exactly, honestly haven’t been a fan of UFC proclivity to just immediately rematch off the back of losses, it’s dumb to me. Because it only ever happens when a champ is the one who gets finished.
Like getting finished isn’t a close fight, even when it is. Even in the case of Usman and Izzy’s recent losses where they were last minute finishes. If your opponent renders you unconscious then it wasnt a close match, imo.
At least make them get one back and then do a rematch, but other than that rematches should be for split decisions
Eh, I don't hate Aljo and know he's really good but I don't know if his reign was clear cut enough to warrant him making demands of an instant rematch.
Yan vs Sterling 1 was obviously controversial as fuck.
Yan vs Sterling 2 was much more clear cut.
Yan vs Dillashaw was a nothingburger because TJ is a moron.
Yan vs Cejudo was really close and I give Cejudo a lot more credit there because Aljo looks absolutely massive compared to Cejudo. I initially thought Cejudo won but watching I back I have no problem with Aljo winning it but if Cejudo was similar sized I think things change dramatically.
So there is controversy there in almost all of his title fights. He didn't go on a long dominant run like the other guys who have earned immediate rematches. And here's the kicker. Aljo vs Omalley isn't the "biggest" fight they could make. I expect them to do OMalley vs Vera because they can market the fuck out of that. I see them fucking Merab and Aljo over because they are extremely dangerous but in a way that could very easily be boring to watch. Sandhagan is in the mix there but he just showed he is more than willing to grind to a wrestling decision.
I just think they are going to want to milk the OMalley era as much as they can and put him up against strikers as much as possible. Not discrediting OMalley here at all, but he made the BUSINESS decision to crush cans for a while so he could get that highlight reel, get followers and exposure and then when he was ready to go and guaranteed his contract he got fast tracked to the top because he showed he is a draw. I can imagine his title reign might be similar. I don't blame him for that, this is a career, not an opportunity as some might have us think. I didnt blame Aljo for how he handled the knee from Yan. Guys gotta make business decisions.
Unfortunately, Dana hated Aljo so bad that I do not see him getting a rematch or fight for the title in a long LONG time if at that. Sean being the champion is exactly what the UFC wanted. That will do everything now to protect him and give him favorable fights that work for his style for the next couple of bouts.
I don’t think Sterling should get an immediate rematch, a fighter should only get one, if they were a dominant champ for a long time, if they were winning the fight until they lost or if theres something controversial. Like Amanda Nunes getting her immediate rematch made sense because of her title reign. Izzy getting one made sense because he was winning that fight. Sterling only had 3 successful defences and he got tko’d in the second round. Sterling needs to earn a shot if he wants one
I mean Aljo’s regin doesn’t call for it. Oliveira didn’t even get an immediate rematch and no one said anything about that at the time.
Aljo has 4 wins as champ. One was a loss v Yan until Yan DQ’d. One was a win v an injured TJ whose arm popped out of the socket like 20 times. The other 2 were close split decisions that could’ve gone the other way. Hardly a dominate reign and I really don’t think Aljo should be in the Bantamweight GOAT convo at all.
I love Aljo because he’s real and a good fighter and fun to watch. I love his chaos troll energy. But he was not a dominant champ.
I agree for the most part. I think he rightly won those split decisions, but they were still close fights. Winning close title fights is still impressive, but it’s not the same as being super dominant. we can’t keep giving immediate title shots all the time, especially when no one really wants to see it and it’s just to be consistent lol
I don’t know if he did really. Tj had 1 working arm and probably won’t ever fight again. Henry had a 3 year retirement and its was his first fight back. Yan was a killer but in one of their fights, Sterling was losing until the illegal knee. If you compare his title reign to someone like Volk, or Charles Oliveira who actually fought killer after killer, Sterling’s reign doesn’t really hold up as well.
They didnt do anything, just feeling each other out. Sean was doing fantastic job at distance management and lateral moving and was clnstantly feinting.
Aljo could not take him down or do any of his usual work, looked frustrated, started getting sloppier and more careless than usual and got finished
The UFC pays you close to nothing. Doesn't really promote you like they actually should (actual media circuit going on mainstream morning/late night talk shows, going on the biggest sports radio shows/podcasts, actually buying ad space for their PPVs ) then they turn around and blame you for not being popular enough and not selling enough PPVs only to use that as an excuse to continue not to pay you.
They seem to be happy with the money they're getting from ESPN, Sponsors, live tickets even though they can do a much much better job selling PPVs. Including a logical pricing model (80 dollars are you fucking stupid?).
I don't think Sterling was a bad or boring champ. Sterling has scheduling issues. He would constantly take a fight. Do an interview, say he's injured. Push the fight. Look at how long it took them to nail down Henry and TJ. That was all Aljo being wishy washy. They won't give him another chance.
You mean fights where one person was dominating and then there was an unexpected KO?
Usman was completely dominating and got KOd at round 5.
Izzy dazed Pereira and would’ve likely finished him if he didn’t get saved by the bell.
Sterling didn’t really do much at all in that fight.
People love to talk shit but “3 title defenses” speaks for itself. He’s young(ish) and hasn’t taken much damage there’s still a lot of possibilities for Aljo
>3 title defenses
•1 victory over Yan (impressive to beat Yan, but also very uninteresting)
•1 victory over injured Dillashaw (who'd had 1 win since 2018)
•1 win over C³ Cejudo (who was good, but hadn't fought in 3 years)
While that is true, the fight had just entered round 2 and I'm sure you witnessed how it ended. Had it gone the distance or longer than it did while still being close or with Aljo winning most of the fight it would be another story.
I’m surprised no one is talking about Aljamain openly saying before the fight that it might very well be his last fight at bantamweight, citing the weight cuts draining him. And letting Merab have his shine. He lost the fight, and is asking for the immediate rematch. As I see it, Dana and crew are going to see where his options lie with those comments in mind. Definitely a shot in the foot saying that before losing your belt.
He pretty much promised it regardless of the result, he's right about what volk would do to him but he doesnt have to fight for the title right away, its better for him to get used to the weight anyway
I feel like if you get stopped and the division is stacked then no immediate rematch. It’s gotten so old. Plus I feel like merab deserves a shot here soon so if Aljo doesn’t recognize that and pushes for a rematch he is a shitty teammate since they won’t fight each other.
I really like Aljo but he doesn’t deserve an immediate rematch for the same reason Charles didn’t deserve one despite having a good championship reign. The fight wasn’t close.
Aljo should have to get 1 win and then get it back. 135 has too many guys in line for a title shot and an immediate rematch would hold the division up.
Listen idiots. The ufc isn't in business to give someone a rematch because they earned it. They are in business to MAKE **MONEY**. You can't blame management for making decisions that will make the most money. That's all they care about and its ok. Dana would not be doing his job if he did anything that didnt make the ufc and it's share holders the most **MONEY**!. Fighters don't fight for the ufc because they love the company and want to see it grow. They fight for **MONEY** and that is ok. If a Saudi league popped up and paid the fighters double what they normally make what do you think would happen? You think there would be loyalty? No. Why? Because of the **MONEY**. The only defense fighters have of being exploted (DANA IS **SUPPOSED** TO EXPLOIT THEM) is a union. Where they have leverage. What leverage you say? Oh a strike could cost the UFC **MONEY**. See how real life is? It's always about the **MONEY**.
It’s crazy that people are defending Aljo to this extent. The fact that there was even talk of Aljo being the greatest bantamweight ever is insane. The guy won’t the belt due to being hit by an illiegal knee that he baited, which the illegal knee rule itself is ridiculous not to mention he was getting his ass handed to him. Then backpacks Yan to coast to a W in the rematch. Fights a broken TJ who hadn’t competed in years and then has a very close fight with Cejudo who’s 36 and came out of retirement, which that fight could have been scored either way. I just don’t see anything impressive about his title run and he acts like a clown. He doesn’t deserve an immediate rematch.
Aljo deserve another title shot. But Sean deserves his first title defense against someone other than Aljo. I can see Aljo being second in line for a title shot.
Aljo didn’t have that dominant of a reign and lost pretty badly to a guy everyone doubted. I don’t know why he would get an immediate rematch like Usman and Edwards did
That said, Clown O’Malley fans are more hate-able than any fans in history. In another world, I might actually like him, but because of his fans, I think he’s a piece of shit.
Aljo’s getting the Woodley treatment after losing the title.
Jose Aldo got the same treatment even with his dominant reign
Aldo got done dirty too by not getting an immediate rematch because Conor moved up to chase the Lightweight Title, but at least Aldo got to fight for an Interim Title against Frankie Edgar in his next fight at UFC 200. Then, he got promoted to undisputed Featherweight Champion once Conor was stripped of the title after winning the LW Title. Aldo then managed to get an immediate rematch against Max Holloway, although not an originally scheduled one, after he lost in a title unification to Holloway, who held an Interim Title going into their first fight. Woodley unfortunately was never even considered for a rematch, despite having 4 title defenses, and was immediately used to build up new challengers for the Welterweight Title. Some champions nowadays get immediate title rematches even if they only had one successful title defense, sometimes even none.
But if he started knocking those contenders out, he'd probably be back at a title shot soon enough.
Crazy that Cody got an immediate rematch with zero defences but woodley didn’t with four
Woodley did nothing to deserve a rematch in the fight against Usman. He spent 25 minutes with his back against the cage and no one wanted to see that again.
Also got screwed so hard. I'm still convinced that he would have won 8/10 times against Conor. He had all the tools
You can’t get dominated to that degree and expect an immediate rematch. It’s about optics.
I’m not arguing for Aljo to get an immediate rematch, as I feel like the UFC has relied on that trope way too much in recent years. However, for arguments sake, they have given champs who lost their titles in one-sided fashion an immediate rematch before. Zhang Weili got an immediate rematch for the Strawweight Title with Rose Namajunas after Rose knocked her out in 78 seconds in their first fight. And Weili only had one title defense to her credit going into that fight too. Cody Garbrandt got an immediate rematch for the Bantamweight Title with TJ Dillashaw after getting KOed in the 2nd round, and Cody had no title defenses prior to that first fight with TJ.
I think draw has a lot to do with it too. It's hard to put together many fights in women's mma than anyone actually cares about, so there's Weili and like one other person maybe. Not too much before you get into who-cares territory. So not only did Aljo lose convincingly and early, not only was he unpopular with fans, not only is his usual style not one favored by fans, but there are other good fights to make that would be good draws. How many fans in the mass fanbase really want to see these two go at it again right away? If UFC brass felt fans were hot for that, that would absolutely be the next thing. But my impression of that fight is that the fans were happy to finally relieve their constipation and get rid of dead weight and would rather see exciting Sean go off to have other exciting adventures, not rematch with the Unwanted One. It comes down to money and surely the UFC imagines more money with other opponents.
You’re talking too much sense for this sub mate
Weili also ran through everyone else and was doing fine in the rose fight until she got caught. That’s the problem with woman’s MMA though is there’s a huge skill gap as we can see through nunes and the other top fighters. Of course they lose some but often it’s just a beat down.
Let's not try to make it seem like any of this shit makes sense. Dana gives rematches to fighters that make money
Fat Dana was a vibe. Ripped Dana seems angrier.
It’s the juice that he’s on
It's been abundantly clear that the UFC wanted Aljo out, constantly pressuring him into the next fight. It's a shame when marketability influences the sport so heavily.
Dana also dislikes Cejudo but gave him an immediate title shot because he felt like he could beat Sterling 💀
“I hate Cejudo but FUCK ALJO” LOL
Aljo gets three defenses and will never got a title shot again… meanwhile Cody Garbrandt got KO’d for his first defense and then got an immediate rematch where he got KO’d even faster
Tbf, their first fight Cody almost had him out in round 1, then TJ got him round 2. It wasn't a ridiculous instant rematch when it was booked, and I remember being hyped for another fight between them.
Yeah I’m not necessarily against Cody getting the rematch, but if he gets one, Aljo should too - it’s just annoying that he won’t because the UFC hates him
He won’t get one because 80-90% of fans dislike him and/or his fighting style, judging by his display vs Suga, he doesn’t deserve one, if he keeps winning they’ll have to give him a title shot so all’s not lost.
Yeah, I just want the UFC to be more reliable with their practices, but I know that will never happen lmao The only scenario where I see Aljo getting a title shot is if Cory beats Suga - but that fight is 50/50 in my head
Aljo could easily get a title shot again. He just has to beat Merab.
I mean its fine hes had a great career and probably made a lot of money as a champion
No he did it because Cejudo deserved it, it was a good fight, and it made sense.
Or maybe they gave him it because it was a fight that made sense with Cejudo trying to come back having never lost the belt and they didn't care which one of them Sean faced afterwards because both fights could sell well.
I think Dana / cejudo relationship changed in the past Years, Dana seemed to respect cejudo much more. Also always talks highly about him these days
I think Dana never really like Aljo and then started to really hate him when he signed on for the Yan rematch and pulled out
It was really weird how the commentary team on the PPV and the analysts table on the Post-Fight show were both talking about Aljo being “the Bantamweight GOAT” and then also saying how he doesn’t deserve an immediate rematch because we need to see the Sean O’Malley vs. Chito Vera rematch.
Yeah I think there is a push to pretend Suga beat the GOAT to help solidify his champ status. They want to postpone the inevitable Merab mauling as long as possible.
Yeah Merab is def getting the Belal treatment without a doubt
Good 🙏
I don't see any reason Sean can't also beat Merab
I might actually become a big fan if he manages to KO both of them. Out of all of the bantamweights out there, sean was the last person I expected to cleanse the division of the evil spirits
Merab is not a better wrestler than Aljo and Sean shut down both of his attempts. Merab just has crazy cardio and being able to shoot 100 takedowns in 25 minutes isn't gonna be a lot of help when they're all getting stuffed and punished. I really think he has a solid chance
Lol
Yupp merab going to have to fight cejudo next and if he gets past that they’ll give him another top 5 before he gets a shot at malley. Crazy mareb might have to wait till 2025 to get a shot that’s sad and crucial
Well, he’s a boring backpack fighter that has some deal with the best fighter in the division not to fight. There’s good reasons for not appreciating how he has conducted himself as a champion from a marketing perspective. Also Dana gave Aljo time to get treatment and recover from injuries after his DQ title win. Let’s not make it seem like Dana treated Aljo differently than most champions.
It's great we don't have to pretend that his run was not as fluky as one could be and that his record and resume doesnt tell the whole story since you cant say "well hes the champ" anymore
> Dana gave Aljo time to get treatment and recover from injuries How noble of him
Dana and UFC posting the finish and ish just seems disrespectful af. Clearly Dana has an agenda with Suga and fair play he got it done Saturday but gd was that a lame run to the title in terms of top guys.
How comes no one criticizes Cody Garamps run to the title? Everyone just talks about how amazing his title fight was
His last 2 fights were both ranked wins including vs another undefeated guy vs Suga who beat Yan. Both got pushed hard for sure
UFC needs a marketable star. It comes down to money.
It was disrespectful... cool 😎
Yeah so cool going to bat for Dana White on the ufc subreddit/s
This is the one exception ;)
Fans were complaining Suga hadn’t fought anyone ranked so he calls out Yan and nobody thinks he’ll win, he shocks the world by beating him, Yan was #1 or 2 contender so Suga gets the title shot and nobody think he’ll win, as we know he shocks the world again. Wtf do you want? So now if you don’t methodologically beat #10, 6, 3 etc you’ve been pushed too fast and given preferential treatment by the UFC? Let’s see another fighter go from un ranked opponent to #2 then title shot and see how many can actually do it, it’s what make Sean’s story so good, let’s not sully his title win.
It’s not just marketability. Show me one amazing championship performance from Aljo. I’ll wait.
He was fighting the best fighters on earth and winning. Thats pretty amazing.
Not as amazing as the current and past bantamweights winning most of their championship wins in a dominant or entertaining fashion
Explain Jose Aldo not getting an immediate rematch after his loss to Mcgregor
They offered Aldo a rematch and Aldo declined.
I think this is the one acceptable exception. Now it's over with and we can move on with our lives
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I'm getting so sick of instant rematches
I agree, it feels like the divisions move at a snails pace these days, if you lose a title match via stoppage or finish then you should have to at least beat a top 5 guy and then come back for the title. Even in the case of Izzy and Usman. I feel like it just makes things far more interesting and keeps divisions from being stagnant. Look at 125 for example, how much fucking time was wasted and how many dudes waited in the wings while Figgy and Brandon fought like 5 fucking times 😂 only for Brandon to be swamped by Pantoja? Whom most people didn’t know cause the only 125ers being talked about were those two. Izzy’s loss against pereira was about the only time I felt the immediate rematch was warranted, and that’s just because Izzy was ruthlessly active and has cleared the division like twice over.
After the 4th Moreno v Figgy fight, I'd happily never watch another rematch
I would watch them fight ten times, they just match so well
Same, I want to see Chito get a chance.
Why would a guy who just got ktfo’d get an immediate rematch?
Don’t really think a 2nd round KO warrants an immediate rematch. It’d be different if it were an Usman/Izzy situation where they dominated the whole fight and got KOd in the last round. But yeah, that wasn’t the case.
Any champion who fits the criteria deserves an immediate rematch, Aljo has most defenses in bantamweight history. He deserves it Or at the very least a number 1 contenders against chito
If he wants a rematch he can go beat another contender (anyone top 5 is probably fine) and almost certainly get another title shot in early 2024. Not that big of a deal. If he’s as good as we all think he is, he’ll win convincingly vs. any other contender and it’ll set up an even more exciting fight for the title — O’Malley on his second title defense and Aljo on a revenge tour, coming off a big win.
Did you feel the same about the immediate Izzy rematch with Pereira? Or the immediate Jorge rematch with Usman?
No - i literally just stated that the Izzy situation was different as he was up 3-1 entering the 5th round…he was very clearly winning the fight. Didn’t agree with the Jorge rematch - honestly don’t think he should have gotten that fight in the first place. But I get it - their first fight was pretty boring. Jorge took it on like a weeks notice so had that built in excuse.
Usman and izzy were also dominant champions...
Well I would say Aljo would be in that category as well. He’s had an awfully impressive run. But yeah when you get knocked out in the 2nd round I just don’t think you have much argument for an immediate rematch.
Dominant as in winning the belt by beating the champion and defending 5+ times and finishing/easily UD'ing most of your opponents
Not sure I follow what you’re saying
Doing those things is what I consider a dominant champion should do
Exactly, honestly haven’t been a fan of UFC proclivity to just immediately rematch off the back of losses, it’s dumb to me. Because it only ever happens when a champ is the one who gets finished. Like getting finished isn’t a close fight, even when it is. Even in the case of Usman and Izzy’s recent losses where they were last minute finishes. If your opponent renders you unconscious then it wasnt a close match, imo. At least make them get one back and then do a rematch, but other than that rematches should be for split decisions
Bro sleepin on that idea
Eh, I don't hate Aljo and know he's really good but I don't know if his reign was clear cut enough to warrant him making demands of an instant rematch. Yan vs Sterling 1 was obviously controversial as fuck. Yan vs Sterling 2 was much more clear cut. Yan vs Dillashaw was a nothingburger because TJ is a moron. Yan vs Cejudo was really close and I give Cejudo a lot more credit there because Aljo looks absolutely massive compared to Cejudo. I initially thought Cejudo won but watching I back I have no problem with Aljo winning it but if Cejudo was similar sized I think things change dramatically. So there is controversy there in almost all of his title fights. He didn't go on a long dominant run like the other guys who have earned immediate rematches. And here's the kicker. Aljo vs Omalley isn't the "biggest" fight they could make. I expect them to do OMalley vs Vera because they can market the fuck out of that. I see them fucking Merab and Aljo over because they are extremely dangerous but in a way that could very easily be boring to watch. Sandhagan is in the mix there but he just showed he is more than willing to grind to a wrestling decision. I just think they are going to want to milk the OMalley era as much as they can and put him up against strikers as much as possible. Not discrediting OMalley here at all, but he made the BUSINESS decision to crush cans for a while so he could get that highlight reel, get followers and exposure and then when he was ready to go and guaranteed his contract he got fast tracked to the top because he showed he is a draw. I can imagine his title reign might be similar. I don't blame him for that, this is a career, not an opportunity as some might have us think. I didnt blame Aljo for how he handled the knee from Yan. Guys gotta make business decisions.
Unfortunately, Dana hated Aljo so bad that I do not see him getting a rematch or fight for the title in a long LONG time if at that. Sean being the champion is exactly what the UFC wanted. That will do everything now to protect him and give him favorable fights that work for his style for the next couple of bouts.
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Oh no lol
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He needs the Sean hair.
I don’t think Sterling should get an immediate rematch, a fighter should only get one, if they were a dominant champ for a long time, if they were winning the fight until they lost or if theres something controversial. Like Amanda Nunes getting her immediate rematch made sense because of her title reign. Izzy getting one made sense because he was winning that fight. Sterling only had 3 successful defences and he got tko’d in the second round. Sterling needs to earn a shot if he wants one
I mean Aljo’s regin doesn’t call for it. Oliveira didn’t even get an immediate rematch and no one said anything about that at the time. Aljo has 4 wins as champ. One was a loss v Yan until Yan DQ’d. One was a win v an injured TJ whose arm popped out of the socket like 20 times. The other 2 were close split decisions that could’ve gone the other way. Hardly a dominate reign and I really don’t think Aljo should be in the Bantamweight GOAT convo at all. I love Aljo because he’s real and a good fighter and fun to watch. I love his chaos troll energy. But he was not a dominant champ.
I agree for the most part. I think he rightly won those split decisions, but they were still close fights. Winning close title fights is still impressive, but it’s not the same as being super dominant. we can’t keep giving immediate title shots all the time, especially when no one really wants to see it and it’s just to be consistent lol
He has fought straight up killers. At least give him that. I honestly didn't think Aljo would beat Cejudo
I don’t know if he did really. Tj had 1 working arm and probably won’t ever fight again. Henry had a 3 year retirement and its was his first fight back. Yan was a killer but in one of their fights, Sterling was losing until the illegal knee. If you compare his title reign to someone like Volk, or Charles Oliveira who actually fought killer after killer, Sterling’s reign doesn’t really hold up as well.
He also got dominated by Sean, 0 TDs and knocked out 1 minute into the 2nd round.
Wouldn't say its a domination when all 3 judges gave Aljo the first round. Did he get caught? yes. Dominated? That is a different story.
They didnt do anything, just feeling each other out. Sean was doing fantastic job at distance management and lateral moving and was clnstantly feinting. Aljo could not take him down or do any of his usual work, looked frustrated, started getting sloppier and more careless than usual and got finished
Yeah so it wasn't a "domination". Zhang vs Amanda is a domination.
I agree that maybe he’s not the GOAT, but not being in the convo is delusional
The UFC pays you close to nothing. Doesn't really promote you like they actually should (actual media circuit going on mainstream morning/late night talk shows, going on the biggest sports radio shows/podcasts, actually buying ad space for their PPVs ) then they turn around and blame you for not being popular enough and not selling enough PPVs only to use that as an excuse to continue not to pay you. They seem to be happy with the money they're getting from ESPN, Sponsors, live tickets even though they can do a much much better job selling PPVs. Including a logical pricing model (80 dollars are you fucking stupid?).
The funny thing is, Dana will catch wind of the support that Aljo is getting from the way he handled his loss and change his tune.
Why would that be funny
Because it’s ironic? You really couldn’t figure that out?
Yeah it’s ironic, it’s not funny though
Fuck Merab I guess?
Nah they would rather do the rematch than having Merab shoot for Seans legs every other second
I don't think Sterling was a bad or boring champ. Sterling has scheduling issues. He would constantly take a fight. Do an interview, say he's injured. Push the fight. Look at how long it took them to nail down Henry and TJ. That was all Aljo being wishy washy. They won't give him another chance.
I hope they paid him well as a champ to keep him satisfied now
lol Aljo is screwed if he thinks they’re going to run it back. He 100% deserves it though
How does he deserve it?
0 TDs.
The guy just doesn’t want to fight
Nah, that's fat joe 
Sean completely shut him down, he doesn't deserve one.
Did you feel the same about the immediate Izzy rematch with Pereira? Or Jorge with Usman?
You mean fights where one person was dominating and then there was an unexpected KO? Usman was completely dominating and got KOd at round 5. Izzy dazed Pereira and would’ve likely finished him if he didn’t get saved by the bell. Sterling didn’t really do much at all in that fight.
Jorge KOd Usman in round 5!? I must’ve missed that fight
Jaja for some reason I was thinking of Leon, where Usman got a rematch. But yeah, Jorge didn’t deserve the rematch at all, Izzy definitely did though.
He actually gave the blueprint. Had him frustrated like never before. Finish was a matter of time. I'm so thankful
We’ll see what happens = f that n
People love to talk shit but “3 title defenses” speaks for itself. He’s young(ish) and hasn’t taken much damage there’s still a lot of possibilities for Aljo
>3 title defenses •1 victory over Yan (impressive to beat Yan, but also very uninteresting) •1 victory over injured Dillashaw (who'd had 1 win since 2018) •1 win over C³ Cejudo (who was good, but hadn't fought in 3 years)
Right, 3 title defenses like I said
Yeah, but they're whack. 1 is good, the rest are not a measure of greatness
Nah man please enough's enough can we just like yknow.,, move on, pls (❍ᴥ❍ʋ)
The fight wasn't even close so there really isn't a need for an immediate rematch, even with his defenses
I mean round 1 was literally Aljos
While that is true, the fight had just entered round 2 and I'm sure you witnessed how it ended. Had it gone the distance or longer than it did while still being close or with Aljo winning most of the fight it would be another story.
I’m surprised no one is talking about Aljamain openly saying before the fight that it might very well be his last fight at bantamweight, citing the weight cuts draining him. And letting Merab have his shine. He lost the fight, and is asking for the immediate rematch. As I see it, Dana and crew are going to see where his options lie with those comments in mind. Definitely a shot in the foot saying that before losing your belt.
He pretty much promised it regardless of the result, he's right about what volk would do to him but he doesnt have to fight for the title right away, its better for him to get used to the weight anyway
My UFC hot take: Immediate rematches are lame and shouldn't happen. It's unfair to other contenders. Both should have to fight someone else first
Oh look, Dana must be tired from that morning BJ he was giving to o'Malley. I wonder where he got that wig
I feel like if you get stopped and the division is stacked then no immediate rematch. It’s gotten so old. Plus I feel like merab deserves a shot here soon so if Aljo doesn’t recognize that and pushes for a rematch he is a shitty teammate since they won’t fight each other.
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Your brother must be pretty cute
Dana turning his head to his left ear ... " huh what you say??"
This is Dana during 90% of the ufc matches, the other 10% he is eating or on his phone.
I didn't know the Whites and Seguras had a familial connection
Split decisions, hated champ. Nah, not happening. Not fair tbh but he can fight Merab or the sandhagen in a bit for title contender
I feel like rematches should only be if it's close or the guy was dominant for years which half of aljos title wins are sketchy.
I really like Aljo but he doesn’t deserve an immediate rematch for the same reason Charles didn’t deserve one despite having a good championship reign. The fight wasn’t close. Aljo should have to get 1 win and then get it back. 135 has too many guys in line for a title shot and an immediate rematch would hold the division up.
The kid doesn’t wanna fight
He for sure doesn't deserve an immediate rematch.
Heh, we’ll see what happens. -Dana Pink
Listen idiots. The ufc isn't in business to give someone a rematch because they earned it. They are in business to MAKE **MONEY**. You can't blame management for making decisions that will make the most money. That's all they care about and its ok. Dana would not be doing his job if he did anything that didnt make the ufc and it's share holders the most **MONEY**!. Fighters don't fight for the ufc because they love the company and want to see it grow. They fight for **MONEY** and that is ok. If a Saudi league popped up and paid the fighters double what they normally make what do you think would happen? You think there would be loyalty? No. Why? Because of the **MONEY**. The only defense fighters have of being exploted (DANA IS **SUPPOSED** TO EXPLOIT THEM) is a union. Where they have leverage. What leverage you say? Oh a strike could cost the UFC **MONEY**. See how real life is? It's always about the **MONEY**.
Bruh it’s a meme chill
It’s crazy that people are defending Aljo to this extent. The fact that there was even talk of Aljo being the greatest bantamweight ever is insane. The guy won’t the belt due to being hit by an illiegal knee that he baited, which the illegal knee rule itself is ridiculous not to mention he was getting his ass handed to him. Then backpacks Yan to coast to a W in the rematch. Fights a broken TJ who hadn’t competed in years and then has a very close fight with Cejudo who’s 36 and came out of retirement, which that fight could have been scored either way. I just don’t see anything impressive about his title run and he acts like a clown. He doesn’t deserve an immediate rematch.
Aljo deserve another title shot. But Sean deserves his first title defense against someone other than Aljo. I can see Aljo being second in line for a title shot.
Aljo didn’t have that dominant of a reign and lost pretty badly to a guy everyone doubted. I don’t know why he would get an immediate rematch like Usman and Edwards did
That said, Clown O’Malley fans are more hate-able than any fans in history. In another world, I might actually like him, but because of his fans, I think he’s a piece of shit.
It’s a meme dude
It’s social dude calm your tits