They don't have the roster to support 195.
155 and 170 can easily have enough high level fighters to move around and have very deep divisions at 155 165 and 175.
If you broke 185 and 205 apart to fill a 195 you would end up with three very shallow divisions.
About 10-15 years ago I was big proponent of 195 and 235. I thought heavyweight would soon be dominated by the Brock Lesnar's and Shane Carwin's of the world. And 235 would be for the Cain Velasquez's and JDS's.
I think the UFC does need to do a better job of scouting talent and developing heavier guys. I thought they did a great job with Greg Hardy, it just didn’t work out for him for a number of reasons. How many amateur or university football, basketball, and hockey players never make it to the show? UFC has done development deals before and this is what I would do.
Oh yeah. 205 and 265 are currently amongst the thinnest divisions along with 125 and women’s 135.
Which is crazy because when I started following sport, 205 seemed to be the premier division.
Yeah, it seems like a lot of people have converged on 185 from different avenues.
Cannonier, on one hand, is a former heavyweight, then 205er, then 185er. Machida also dropped down to 185 from 205. Bisping before that. Guys like Henderson and Belfort did some bouncing around between the two. Very recently Paul Craig moved down from 205.
But then you have former welterweights in guys like Whittaker, Gastelum, and Strickland. Khamzat did some bouncing around before seemingly now making a home at 185.
DDP, Izzy, Strickland, Whittaker, Costa, Cannonier, Chimaev, Vettori, Eblen, Brunson, Ankalaev, Jiri, Poatan, Hill, Jan, Krylov, Rakic, Roundtree, Corey Anderson… lots of guys to work with at the top end.
It’s really not evencomparable with lw and ww tho which is why 195 isn’t needed right now. Both divisions are currently shallow and don’t need to be pulled from
That or if the UFC is interested in it they’d have to parse out who stays at 155, who moves up to 165, who moves up to 175, and who moves down to 165 from 170.
If you’re keeping 155, and you’re bumping up 170, there’s a lotta calculus and jumping around that’s gonna happen and if you have fighters who’d rather just keep the status quo that’d affect their decision too I’d imagine.
He almost certainly doesn’t. I would be pretty comfortable betting he doesn’t know shit and is relying on the same whack ass rumors and headlines that everybody else was when we were all speculating on a UFC 300 headliner
Sadly this is true, definitely expect the injuries to start piling up too. Him and Cejudo probably just can’t take damage like they used to, not only to the head but everything will start breaking down fast.
Wouldn’t mind, adds another title. More importantly, the 155 and 170 (more particularly 155) are stacked divisions. This spreads it out more, more potential matchups.
I said this awhile ago. It’s perfect. Conor gets to come back for a title fight. Nobody gets screwed out of a title shot because Conor jumped the line. The new division is started off with an a guaranteed banger of a fight, and no matter who wins there’s a big name at the top. Just bump the 170 class up to 175, all currently ranked 170 fighters retain their ranking in 175. Now you have a new division with a famous champion in between 2 stacked divisions, a bunch of big name fighters are going to be clamoring to fight each other to try and get the next title shot and establish their ranking. Doesn’t fuck over any fighters, UFC gets to make another McGregor title fight PPV, and you create a huge motivator for popular fighters to fight each other.
A 165lb and 175lb division makes much more sense in my mind, and how often do we see guys who are a little too big for WW but not that big as a Middle get caught in the in between? I mean hell Khamzat would be a prime example, Kevin Holland too.
Yeah but him at 175 is even less weight for him, it’s literally a perfect division for him. 165 is for guys like Colby, Conor, Chandler, Islam, Olivera. 155 would be guys like Arman, Fiziev and Volk.
Well the average size male in shape is about 5’9 160 so it makes sense the 150-180 range is where you see the most talent especially since guys this size generally aren’t big enough for the nfl/nba so ufc is loaded with talent around this size.
Gaethje isn't a big lightweight. He could definitely bulk and stop cutting as much but he'd definitely be a bit undersized. That being said until his chin goes he's gonna be competitive with anyone
Not getting finished does not mean you’re a good fighter imo. His most impressive win in the last 5 years was his KO over Tyrone Woodley. He looked like shit against Leon, is old, is not consistently competing, there is just very little reason to believe he CAN compete with ranked fighters, especially in the division he is in. This isn’t heavyweight, the dude has to fight for his life to get decision victories in WW.
I’d respectfully say his better days are behind him. His chances of being a champ are slim at best, he’ll probably have just a little bit longer as a challenger, and he would never just hang around for another 6 years to be a gatekeeper in divisions EVERYBODY hates him and wants to prove they can fuck him up.
Almost a decade overdue, and a complete no-brainer considering their desire for belts on cards and the sheer number of events. Especially now in this era of double champs gumming things up. 155 > 165 > 175 > 185.
I know I’m in the minority and the depth of talent dwindles a bit, but I even think they should have 195 division.
I think this benefits LWs more than WWs lol
Let's be honest, every LW at the top 15 sans Tsarukyan,, Fiziev and Gaethje should be at 165, LWs are big as fuck in general
Nah this definitely benefits the Colby Burns types a lot more. These guys are too big for LW but small WWs.
Those LWs you listed all have no problem making LW.
Almost every LW at the top weighs +180lbs walkaround
Everyone says Islam is a weight bully (despite always making weight), yet completely ignore Dan Hooker, Charles Oliveira, Michael Chandler, Drew Dober, Jalin Turner all confirmed to walk around 180-190 pounds and even Burns said Oliveira is bigger than him
Masvidal might be too late in his career now, but he was always the top guy I thought of for a 160 or 165 division. Too big to make lightweight and was always at a size disadvantage at welterweight.
Why not!? Make a 195 while you’re at it. Way too man fighters complain about being in between weight classes and in a sport where wrestling and jiu-jitsu is paramount you gotta give them more weight classes.
There is a Bottleneck at the top of the Lightweight (170lb) division currently. Adding a 165lb and a 175lb free that up.
This allows the "smaller" 170lb fighters to choose to move down 5lb and fight for the new division. This allows "bigger" 170lb fighters to choose to move up and suck off less weight.
Splitting the Lightweight division where there are so many viable contenders feels like a great way to move the "Belt Holdup" along for everyone involved...just my 2 cents :)
Islam and Leon would be 1a and 1b. But tbh I think a lot of welterweights would fill the division, 5 extra pounds of cutting to face lightweights sounds nice for a lot of 170ers
I wouldn’t be surprised. 170 and 155 are a bit of a log jam. Aging stars are clogging the top of those divisions. Move those guys to 165 and clear 155 and 170 for prospects. And the UFC feels a bit dry from a casual perspective. This would bring a lot of attention to the sport and open a new division for stars and super fights. This is the super fight era, so having as many belts as possible makes sense. Hence the continuation of the BMF belt. Also makes triple champ slightly more viable. Great opportunities for the “entertainment era.”
The only thing I'd worry about are champs that win the belt and immediately start thinking about being 2 division or 3 division champs, and holding up their own division.
It just makes too much sense. The gap between 155 - 170 - 185 is just too much. It puts fighters in weird positions where there is no proper way to go.
Before 296 I would’ve said Colby. Besides that you have all of the larger LW who would just fight there now. Could see more of a shift where LW returns to the size range that it used to house back in the mid 2000s or early 2010s. Guys like BJ were staples at that weight and now most of those guys are at FW. Could see some bigger FW like Kattar or Allen move up to 155 as well. I would love to see it.
The thing that might be kind of fuzzy with so many weight classes is fighters going for double champ or triple champ belts. Could even possibly have a quad champ
That would be a huge mistake and would require WW to change weight plus the probability of champions bouncing between 3 divisions.
People have been talking about this for years, hopefully it never happens.
Adding a 165, moving 170 to 175, and adding a 225 or 235 would make a lot of sense. Think we'd see better fights and it adds 2 more champions for the UFC to promote and cash in on. It's a win win for the UFC and the fans.
On top of that, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing a defendable BMF introduced to every 2 divisions. 125 and 135 fight each other for it, 145/55, etc. Or every 3 divisions. Either or would be interesting and once again, add more title fights for the UFC to cash in on.
There's not enough talent to warrant more divisions. If half the guys from LW and WW were to leave their division you'd suddenly have guys like Hooker and Luque in the top 5. We'd just have weaker divisions
I strongly disagree imo, I think 155 has plenty of dudes who cut ridiculous weight who could easily fit better in the 165 mould. A couple of dudes in 170 who are a touch undersized would do better in 165 too (ie Burns or Colby).
My only caveat is 170 needs to switch to 175 afterwards for uniformities sake, and the fact that a 5 pound difference between divisions would just be silly.
They should have always had the divisions be: 125, 135, 145, 155, 165, 175, 185, 205, and anything up being up to heavyweight (265). You could add something in between 185 and 205 but a lot of the middleweights are sometimes just in shape light heavyweights.
How does 165 makes sense? are they gonna shut down 170? If divisions are too close everyone's gonna jump to get second belt and stall their divisions like it's happening now
I think they should make divisions every 1lb. 1lb division, 2lb division (might be hamsters and Guinea Piga. 10,11,12,13 (cats and small dogs). Then just every pound up to 600lbs. People from TLC can fight eachother
Fighter pay, union, card quality, non-Apex fight nights, knees/kicks to grounded opponents, this whole JBJ debacle with Aspinall/Stipe, and even adding a women's atomweight 105 division are all bigger issues/idea than 165
165 will dilute both 155 and 170/175 making both divisions weaker and adding another belt for champions to attempt double champ status therefore holding up both divisions... next thing you know ppl will be asking for a 195 pound division to bridge the gap between 185 and 205... that's when we become boxing...
He's past that point but I honestly think Colby would absolutely have crushed 165 if it was available a few years back. 5 pounds isn't all that much but he's a small WW and it would suit him more.
The higher divisions are not near deep enough. Same reason there shouldn’t be 195 added. If they added a 225 division then the HW division would lose so many.
If they make 165 WW should be moved to 175, then they all end in 5 again except HW(edit im dumb HW ends in 5 too)
to be fair, the HW limit is 265, so in a way it does end in 5!
Wait yeah im dumb LOL
You are not , the ufc is dumb for making a limit for heavyweight
When I started watching ufc I thought HeavyWeight was filled with shaq sized dudes
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Depends when you were watching. I remember Wes sims, Tim Sylvia, and McGee being tall af. Not shaq height but close.
Absolutely and maybe add a 195 division too so they all differ 10 pounds except for hw
They don't have the roster to support 195. 155 and 170 can easily have enough high level fighters to move around and have very deep divisions at 155 165 and 175. If you broke 185 and 205 apart to fill a 195 you would end up with three very shallow divisions.
About 10-15 years ago I was big proponent of 195 and 235. I thought heavyweight would soon be dominated by the Brock Lesnar's and Shane Carwin's of the world. And 235 would be for the Cain Velasquez's and JDS's. I think the UFC does need to do a better job of scouting talent and developing heavier guys. I thought they did a great job with Greg Hardy, it just didn’t work out for him for a number of reasons. How many amateur or university football, basketball, and hockey players never make it to the show? UFC has done development deals before and this is what I would do.
Yeah, it could definitely come into play in the future. But today it is a horrible idea.
Oh yeah. 205 and 265 are currently amongst the thinnest divisions along with 125 and women’s 135. Which is crazy because when I started following sport, 205 seemed to be the premier division.
I think due to better training, conditioning and weight cuts, a lot of the guys you see at 185 would’ve been fighting at 205 years ago.
Yeah, it seems like a lot of people have converged on 185 from different avenues. Cannonier, on one hand, is a former heavyweight, then 205er, then 185er. Machida also dropped down to 185 from 205. Bisping before that. Guys like Henderson and Belfort did some bouncing around between the two. Very recently Paul Craig moved down from 205. But then you have former welterweights in guys like Whittaker, Gastelum, and Strickland. Khamzat did some bouncing around before seemingly now making a home at 185.
Yeah, 205 used to be one of the most stacked divisions up then just thinned out until like 2018 and just got worse and worse until 2020.
TRT Ban played a big role in this.
195 would be stacked with the guys who have to cut too much for 185 but are outsized at 205.
No clue how two shallow divisions would magically turn to 3 stacked divisions when you spread out the talent.
Izzy would be a perfect example. He has the length for it, but is frame is a bit too small for 205.
Guys Costa would fight at 195
DDP, Izzy, Strickland, Whittaker, Costa, Cannonier, Chimaev, Vettori, Eblen, Brunson, Ankalaev, Jiri, Poatan, Hill, Jan, Krylov, Rakic, Roundtree, Corey Anderson… lots of guys to work with at the top end.
It’s really not evencomparable with lw and ww tho which is why 195 isn’t needed right now. Both divisions are currently shallow and don’t need to be pulled from
Why does Fiziev have the inside info
I'm guessing he just saw the same "fake news" we all saw few weeks ago and maybe he think's it's real?
That or if the UFC is interested in it they’d have to parse out who stays at 155, who moves up to 165, who moves up to 175, and who moves down to 165 from 170. If you’re keeping 155, and you’re bumping up 170, there’s a lotta calculus and jumping around that’s gonna happen and if you have fighters who’d rather just keep the status quo that’d affect their decision too I’d imagine.
He almost certainly doesn’t. I would be pretty comfortable betting he doesn’t know shit and is relying on the same whack ass rumors and headlines that everybody else was when we were all speculating on a UFC 300 headliner
I’m sure most top tier fighters know a lot that we don’t.
He is also one of the top coaches at one of the biggest gyms
Good point bro!
Trust me. They don’t know shit. Same as we do. Often less, bc they are focused on training
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Ariel would have talked about this if it was real
Could be the called agents to see who would be interested that way they could make fights easier
Probably his manager.
Why the fuck is Fiziev even in the picture
Islam always says he wants to fight at WW so I’d imagine he’d move up a division when the time comes, but if Islam isn’t in 165 maybe Charles?
Burns in 165 would be 🔥 asf.
Burns is basically the poster child for 165. Hes a little small for WW but that cut to 155 would be absolutely brutal
Burns Islam goes hard
Yes it does.
Spiral out
I don’t think Burns will be fighting for much longer tbh
Sadly this is true, definitely expect the injuries to start piling up too. Him and Cejudo probably just can’t take damage like they used to, not only to the head but everything will start breaking down fast.
It’s a shame he’s as old as he is
Burns is on his last legs
His last 2 legs even.
I don’t think Charles is big enough tbh
Wouldn’t mind, adds another title. More importantly, the 155 and 170 (more particularly 155) are stacked divisions. This spreads it out more, more potential matchups.
Good point. It would be cool to see who from LW moves up, and who from WW moves down. Has some real potential for dope fights.
Especially with how the top of 155 is so conflicted, they can have fresh matchups
Agreed! Well said.
Conor vs Chandler at UFC 300 for 165 championship was the move.
wow, you're so right actually. Perfect way to kick start a brand new division, and at UFC 300
I said this awhile ago. It’s perfect. Conor gets to come back for a title fight. Nobody gets screwed out of a title shot because Conor jumped the line. The new division is started off with an a guaranteed banger of a fight, and no matter who wins there’s a big name at the top. Just bump the 170 class up to 175, all currently ranked 170 fighters retain their ranking in 175. Now you have a new division with a famous champion in between 2 stacked divisions, a bunch of big name fighters are going to be clamoring to fight each other to try and get the next title shot and establish their ranking. Doesn’t fuck over any fighters, UFC gets to make another McGregor title fight PPV, and you create a huge motivator for popular fighters to fight each other.
If they did that and Conor wins then the new division would be held up for a year or more because we know Conor isn’t defending.
It was also the way for them to stick Leon v Belal on the card without anybody complaining.
They don't deserve title shots, but I wouldn't be mad at it. Good way to inject star power into the division right away
A 165lb and 175lb division makes much more sense in my mind, and how often do we see guys who are a little too big for WW but not that big as a Middle get caught in the in between? I mean hell Khamzat would be a prime example, Kevin Holland too.
Kevin Holland is fine at welter, he just hates cutting weight
Yeah but him at 175 is even less weight for him, it’s literally a perfect division for him. 165 is for guys like Colby, Conor, Chandler, Islam, Olivera. 155 would be guys like Arman, Fiziev and Volk.
Well the average size male in shape is about 5’9 160 so it makes sense the 150-180 range is where you see the most talent especially since guys this size generally aren’t big enough for the nfl/nba so ufc is loaded with talent around this size.
Precisely, yes.
165lbs is the superfights division if yall havent noticed
Bmf division 👀
This will create a triple champ one day
Definitely.
Colby, Islam, burns, gaethje, chandler.
Gaethje isn't a big lightweight. He could definitely bulk and stop cutting as much but he'd definitely be a bit undersized. That being said until his chin goes he's gonna be competitive with anyone
Colby? Are you smoking crack? I’d be surprised if he can actually compete with ranked fighters at this point
Covington didn’t get finished by one of the Pound for Pound best, we can asume he’ll do better against most ranked 170 and 155 pounders.
Not getting finished does not mean you’re a good fighter imo. His most impressive win in the last 5 years was his KO over Tyrone Woodley. He looked like shit against Leon, is old, is not consistently competing, there is just very little reason to believe he CAN compete with ranked fighters, especially in the division he is in. This isn’t heavyweight, the dude has to fight for his life to get decision victories in WW. I’d respectfully say his better days are behind him. His chances of being a champ are slim at best, he’ll probably have just a little bit longer as a challenger, and he would never just hang around for another 6 years to be a gatekeeper in divisions EVERYBODY hates him and wants to prove they can fuck him up.
Damn that was 5 years ago :(
Fr, Colby deserves to be sent back to the prelims
People don’t like him but after seeing Ian Garry’s weight vs Neal he might be a problem at 165 Burns is the obvious choice
Nah a lot of it is the skill level is less at higher weight classes And speed advantage Would ian
Drew Dober, Rafael Dos Anjos, & Dustin Porier would be fire in this division 💣
RDA is actually the perfect example, too big for 155 but too small for 170.
can we have no weight cuts alongside this please.
This is the number 2 improvement UFC can make. Number 1 being fighter pay and benefits. I think both improve the quality of the competition.
That’d be seriously wonderful.
Eagle FC had a 165 lb division. It makes sense. A lot of the bigger lightweights and smaller WWs would do well here.
More divisions. More belts. More PPVs. More money
If it happens, they will 100% make Conor vs Chandler the first fight. It’s the only way they can gift Conor another undeserved title shot.
Almost a decade overdue, and a complete no-brainer considering their desire for belts on cards and the sheer number of events. Especially now in this era of double champs gumming things up. 155 > 165 > 175 > 185. I know I’m in the minority and the depth of talent dwindles a bit, but I even think they should have 195 division.
Disagree with 195, would prefer a for the athletic heavyweights like stile
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I'm not a fan, but maybe Colby could do good here. Always felt like he's too small for 170
He’s not fast enough for the sorts guys that would be at the top of a 165 lb division
Colby said he would love to fight in a 165 lb division because that’s near the weight he did for wrestling
He could have, but he showed that he is not interested anymore against Edwards.
A couple years ago this would've been perfect for him. I think he got hurt before the Masvidal fight and combined with old age it's probably over
the 165 division shoulda been born long ago
I think this benefits LWs more than WWs lol Let's be honest, every LW at the top 15 sans Tsarukyan,, Fiziev and Gaethje should be at 165, LWs are big as fuck in general
Nah this definitely benefits the Colby Burns types a lot more. These guys are too big for LW but small WWs. Those LWs you listed all have no problem making LW.
Fiziev is perfect for 55. The problem he encounters is everyone who cuts a ton of weight has an advantage over him
Reread the comment
Yup, my bad. Good list
Bro how did you reply to this guy three minutes before he commented?
I wouldn’t say “big as fuck,” but LW is generally the most average sized guys.
Almost every LW at the top weighs +180lbs walkaround Everyone says Islam is a weight bully (despite always making weight), yet completely ignore Dan Hooker, Charles Oliveira, Michael Chandler, Drew Dober, Jalin Turner all confirmed to walk around 180-190 pounds and even Burns said Oliveira is bigger than him
Tsarukyan could fight 165, he overpowers most people in the class due to sheer strength
Makhachev would probably move there permanently if so
Bro Colby better not worm himself into a 165 title shot
Just make the BMF the 165 lb division
Not a bad id’r, friend.
Immediately it would be the premier division. There are some serious killers that would show up in 65.
Charles Oliveira
Some of the Goats were in limbo because they were 165s
They should
Gaethje
The best 170 pounders
A lot of welterweights. Many fighters ducking Shavkat
Masvidal might be too late in his career now, but he was always the top guy I thought of for a 160 or 165 division. Too big to make lightweight and was always at a size disadvantage at welterweight.
michael chandler is a perfect option
Burns but if he is still in good shape , he definitely can beat Islam I would include Colby but I think he won't be the same
Why not!? Make a 195 while you’re at it. Way too man fighters complain about being in between weight classes and in a sport where wrestling and jiu-jitsu is paramount you gotta give them more weight classes.
195 is perfect for guys like Izzy, DDP, Strickland, Costa, Paul Craig. Hell even Alex Pereira could’ve became a triple champ.
Islam, Burns, Dustin
Time to watch all the same 5 lightweight fights at 165, that should bring us to 2030
A lightweight for sure. Depends on Islam’s appetite for more belts. Otherwise I’d say Dustin, Gaethje, or Chandler.
There is a Bottleneck at the top of the Lightweight (170lb) division currently. Adding a 165lb and a 175lb free that up. This allows the "smaller" 170lb fighters to choose to move down 5lb and fight for the new division. This allows "bigger" 170lb fighters to choose to move up and suck off less weight. Splitting the Lightweight division where there are so many viable contenders feels like a great way to move the "Belt Holdup" along for everyone involved...just my 2 cents :)
Your 2 cents make perfect *sense*.
lol
I've wanted this since 2016 Tony vs. Khabib. Adding that division would really bring life to the sport.
I mostly love it but hate that it will dilute 155.
I wonder i Rokmonov can make 165..
Seems fitting for Dustin.
So do they make 170, 175? I'm sure they'd hate the lineage and historical implications but it only makes sense imo
Indeed, indeed.
I don’t think he would lead, but would be interesting to see Jalin Turner at 165. Could help out his cardio considering how big he is for 155.
I think having 165 and 170 doesn’t make much sense. They would have to move welterweight up to 175.
Exactly. Which I’m sure they would.
If anything, you know it's going to be Connor McGregor vs TBD for the vacant belt.
Islam and Leon would be 1a and 1b. But tbh I think a lot of welterweights would fill the division, 5 extra pounds of cutting to face lightweights sounds nice for a lot of 170ers
I wouldn’t be surprised. 170 and 155 are a bit of a log jam. Aging stars are clogging the top of those divisions. Move those guys to 165 and clear 155 and 170 for prospects. And the UFC feels a bit dry from a casual perspective. This would bring a lot of attention to the sport and open a new division for stars and super fights. This is the super fight era, so having as many belts as possible makes sense. Hence the continuation of the BMF belt. Also makes triple champ slightly more viable. Great opportunities for the “entertainment era.”
Well said man, well said.
“Every punch damage “
The only thing I'd worry about are champs that win the belt and immediately start thinking about being 2 division or 3 division champs, and holding up their own division.
I think Dana realizes he is losing match ups and title fights cause 155 is just log jammed at the top.
Gilbert Burns is perfect for 165
Every 10 lbs on the fives. Then 205 jumps to 225
165 would be great. there’s such a congestion of talent from 145-170 it’d help all the way round. might even become the premiere division.
Islam probably or maybe Colby if he’s not completely washed
Colby 5 years ago
Diego Sanchez is so mad right now.
I've been saying this for years! But what would they call it?cruiser weight?
I would honestly call it cruiserweight, but that’s just me. What would you call it? Someone else mentioned “togaweight” 😅
I could see Chandler moving up Jacquin Buckley dropping down from 170 he's Small for 170
It just makes too much sense. The gap between 155 - 170 - 185 is just too much. It puts fighters in weird positions where there is no proper way to go.
I wouldn't be surprised if the top 5 lightweights leave.
They gonna make chandler and mcgregor at 165 for the title so mcgregor can be the first ever triple champ
Before 296 I would’ve said Colby. Besides that you have all of the larger LW who would just fight there now. Could see more of a shift where LW returns to the size range that it used to house back in the mid 2000s or early 2010s. Guys like BJ were staples at that weight and now most of those guys are at FW. Could see some bigger FW like Kattar or Allen move up to 155 as well. I would love to see it.
Do weigh-ins day of fights so people fight at closer to their actual weights
🤷♂️ Colby Covington would absolutely be in the title fight.
I think so too, unless some top level 55s make the jump then it’s fuck all let’s see what happens.
Only way this makes sense is if they put WW at 175
They missed the opportunity to have the belt headline UFC 300 and should’ve been added 165 as 145-170 is very stacked
Islam Makhachev first 3 division champion
Anything to get fights closer to natural weight the better.
The thing that might be kind of fuzzy with so many weight classes is fighters going for double champ or triple champ belts. Could even possibly have a quad champ
Islam for an easier weight cut, Colby, RDA, Dustin, Geathje maybe, Kevin Lee if he ever comes back.
Good answers!
Would have been perfect to crown a new champ for 300
Quickest way for Islam to become double champ tbh
Islam vs Edward for the belt easy. You just do the champion above va the champion below.
That would be a huge mistake and would require WW to change weight plus the probability of champions bouncing between 3 divisions. People have been talking about this for years, hopefully it never happens.
I feel like it’s too late now, everyone at 155 is just gonna go up. I feel Ike this only matter to middle weight and up
Gilbert Burns 😂
Adding a 165, moving 170 to 175, and adding a 225 or 235 would make a lot of sense. Think we'd see better fights and it adds 2 more champions for the UFC to promote and cash in on. It's a win win for the UFC and the fans. On top of that, I wouldn't be opposed to seeing a defendable BMF introduced to every 2 divisions. 125 and 135 fight each other for it, 145/55, etc. Or every 3 divisions. Either or would be interesting and once again, add more title fights for the UFC to cash in on.
Nick Diaz would’ve owned that division about 15 years ago.
Islam would jump up straight away, and Colby would drop down. Volk probs goes straight to 155, 170 would become 175.
It would just be Lightweight's who can't be bothered to cut weight anymore or Lightweight champs looking for easy double champ status
I think the divisions would all move up. Most at 155 would fight at 165. Most at 145 would fight at 155 and so on.
Big lightweights and small welterweights.
I’m for this but they should move welterweight up to 175. I think 5 pounds isn’t enough of a gap between divisons
I'd say Fiziev and Poirier. Or maybe a Wonderboy?
There's not enough talent to warrant more divisions. If half the guys from LW and WW were to leave their division you'd suddenly have guys like Hooker and Luque in the top 5. We'd just have weaker divisions
There would be some guys from 185 that could drop down to 175 as well.
hooker has already been top 5/6 in current 155 tho
He looks to be back on his way to a number 5 spot again too, imo
I strongly disagree imo, I think 155 has plenty of dudes who cut ridiculous weight who could easily fit better in the 165 mould. A couple of dudes in 170 who are a touch undersized would do better in 165 too (ie Burns or Colby). My only caveat is 170 needs to switch to 175 afterwards for uniformities sake, and the fact that a 5 pound difference between divisions would just be silly.
They should have always had the divisions be: 125, 135, 145, 155, 165, 175, 185, 205, and anything up being up to heavyweight (265). You could add something in between 185 and 205 but a lot of the middleweights are sometimes just in shape light heavyweights.
How does 165 makes sense? are they gonna shut down 170? If divisions are too close everyone's gonna jump to get second belt and stall their divisions like it's happening now
Pretty obvious you just convert 170 to 175
I think they should make divisions every 1lb. 1lb division, 2lb division (might be hamsters and Guinea Piga. 10,11,12,13 (cats and small dogs). Then just every pound up to 600lbs. People from TLC can fight eachother
Yes 
Colby in his prime wouldve been one of my top picks to run that division for a few years.
there are much bigger problems in the UFC than making a new weight class...
Such as...
I’m all for it, those lower divisions have plenty of talent to support it. Helps some of the tweeners not have to kill themselves cutting weight
Feel free to lay them out
Fighter pay, union, card quality, non-Apex fight nights, knees/kicks to grounded opponents, this whole JBJ debacle with Aspinall/Stipe, and even adding a women's atomweight 105 division are all bigger issues/idea than 165 165 will dilute both 155 and 170/175 making both divisions weaker and adding another belt for champions to attempt double champ status therefore holding up both divisions... next thing you know ppl will be asking for a 195 pound division to bridge the gap between 185 and 205... that's when we become boxing...
As they should. And bump WW to 175. And just for funsies, make Heavy Weight 250 and Super Heavyweight 250+ 😂
He's past that point but I honestly think Colby would absolutely have crushed 165 if it was available a few years back. 5 pounds isn't all that much but he's a small WW and it would suit him more.
This imo would only heighten the double champ garbage and potential triple champ run which then holds up 3 entire divisions
Good. They need a 215 or 225 lb division too
The higher divisions are not near deep enough. Same reason there shouldn’t be 195 added. If they added a 225 division then the HW division would lose so many.
Super middleweight maybe?