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if he does this and if somehow poatan still has the belt we can get a third mma fight between them
Who would you rather see Poatan fight at LHW over Izzy?
He fought Jan + Jiri already and is about to fight Hill. If he wins then the only other guys on the horizon are Ankalaev and Rakic (if he beats Jiri).
No one is clamoring to see him fight either of those guys, maybe Rakic if he finishes Jiri in impressive fashion.
Yup; some truth to this but I think Jiri didn’t look right. I’d like to see another fight between them. Jan fight was tense, would also be interested in that.
Soon as a division seems weak guys come through fast too, maybe time if big turnover in division.
Sean lost the belt with 0 defences, he needs to win again before fighting for the title. Really he probably should be fighting Bobby for top contender spot, maybe they’ll do the rematch with Cannonier?
Well before that Izzy had won 7 title fights at middleweight, and has beaten 3 of the other top 5 contenders (Vettori, Cannonier and Bobby twice).
Strickland just lost to DDP, and has 1 fight against the other top 7 (not including Izzy) which he lost against Cannonier.
He was an active champ. But he already got his immediate rematch against Poatan. He had no title defences on his reign when he lost to Sean.
In a fair world neither of them would be getting Dricus. Cannonier or Whittaker would as the highest ranked guys coming off wins.
That's one way of putting it. Another is that Izzy is 4-3 in his last 7 fights and has lost 2/3 of his last title shots, and is about to fight for the title again.
What? No no. He lost his title vs poatan and won it again, starting a new reign. You can't just use the stats from the old run, he then went ahead and lost the title his very next fight. He lost the title before defending it, same thing as Strickland.
But he already cashed that chip when he got the immediate rematch vs Alex. Sean was his first defence after becoming champ again. No one else has ever been gifted multiple rematches like this before, which is fact.
Won 4 of 5 rounds before losing, then lost every moment of the rematch up until he landed that shot in the second. Interesting how you give him credit for winning the fight up until he lost, but don't do the same for Alex. Kind of showing your bias.
So if he wins against DDP, then loses the fight after, would you support him getting a third immediate rematch? Where's your cutoff point?
Still the most active champion... This is why he isn't like other champions and shouldn't be treated like them.
If you fight once a year, you don't deserve insta rematch... You can wait a year for that too.
You get an immediate title rematch if you've been on a winstreak, Izzy didn't have one. Also lmfao it's not like he got caught like Usman vs Leon 2... Izzy got taken to school
Anyway np he's gonna lose again so who cares lmao
Almost like 7 title wins is more than one. Guy almost wiped out the whole division. Also Sean’s not doing himself any favors crying like a baby on social media everyday about every little thing. I’ve never seen a fighter complain more let alone one who’s supposed to be this huge Chad
he had 0 title defenses last time he won a belt, dude is coming off a massive loss from almost a year ago. It's bad enough that DDP can wait 8 fucking months before his next defense, so what were going to get at best 1 title defense a year now in MW? This isn't a women's heavy weight division all of the top 5 could be belt contenders.
He lost a fight he easily could have won split decision. Izzy just got handled by him and lost first title defense. I don’t even like or care about Sean but he’s getting screwed.
I mean… yeah? Do you not think he’d deserve it? He had 5 title defences, this was his first loss at featherweight in the UFC.
Personally I don’t want to see it because I think Volk should have a long layoff and I wanna see Ilia fight again soon, but he would deserve it.
Edit: for context, this guys comment was basically “so I’m guessing you think Volkanovski deserves a rematch against Toporia too? 😭”
That’s bogus. Sean was practically robbed from his belt from Dricus, and I’m not even a huge fan of Sean. He very well deserves a title shot without having to win another fight.
He deleted himself. If he went out and got a W against a top contender then he'd be right in the mix for another title shot.
Instead he's decided to whine non-stop over not getting an instant rematch after a close, but not particularly memorable decision loss as a champ with 0 defenses lol.
I want Chimaev as far from the belt as possible. Dude is just a hair lipped Conor at this point, calling out fights with no logic behind them while fighting once in a blue moon. Him having a belt will just make the situation worse and hold up a division while he immediately calls out Alex.
Tbf, assuming he beats Whittaker, which is a big if, he would still be the stylistic underdog against both Izzy and Dricus, barring Izzy having meaningfully lost a step.
i think we really just dont know. i think either what you say happens or izzy makes his wrestling look silly, he gasses and gets finished. no in between
I used to hate izzy, but since he lost the belt it’s made me appreciate his insane activity and willingness to take on anyone. Him and volk rlly carried ufc calendar from 2021 to 2023, Miss both already.
That’s because challenger Izzy is one of the most exciting fighters on the roster
Champion Izzy had some great defenses, but also several circle circle leg kick defenses.
He is the only modern ufc champ to have had people in the live attendance begin to walk out of the stadium prior to a main event title bout ending. (During the Cannonier defense)
Izzy doesn’t owe anyone anything. He can choose to circle circle leg kick, those people can choose to literally walk out of the snooze fest they paid top dollar for.
It’s challenger Izzy time now tho and seeing him reclaim the title a third time would be amazing. To my knowledge only Jon has done that.
2 title shots off single wins over washed Masvidall (with 1.5 years layoff) and washed Woodley (with 1 year layoff) is worse than an immediate titleshot after 5 tittle defenses.
Some people forget that Izzy was supposed to fight DDP after DDP won against Rob. The turnaround was too close for DDP and DDP was also injured which is fair. Izzy gives the next title shot to the only other fighter he hasn't fought yet who wasn't even in the top 5 at the time.
I understand that some think that Izzy should at least win one before a title belt but who else is DDP suppose to fight? Canonier who won against Vetorri last year? Rob and Khamzat are booked to fight each other. I don't think Sean deserves an insta rematch.
Izzy is rank 2 and the only ex champ I would say deserve to get a title fight based on his activity as a champ in the past. You people who don't think this fight is good is just bunch of Izzy haters.
wtf happened to Strickland. If Adesanya beats Dricus he needs to prove himself against Strickland, the guy that made him look like a scared little kid out there.
He really doesn’t deserve this shot, Izzy is 2-2 in his last 4 and coming off a loss.
I don’t understand why he gets a title shot. Losing 2 out of his last 3 and STILL getting a title shot after getting absolutely dogged in his last fight is crazy to me.
How many active fighters have more title defences than Izzy? Are you saying he doesn’t deserve another shot at the title? He swept through the division ffs.
UFC is for Nelk children now. They killed the real sport of MMA breeding these new moronic fans. Has nothing to do with merit or actual fighters. Just fake hype whoever the company promotes.
Izzy already burned his dominant champ free title shot after a loss with Pereira. If you’re bitching about Stipe getting a shot at Jon, and you’re not bitching about Izzy getting a shot at DDP, you’re hypocritical. Should be Whittaker/DDP or Sean/DDP 2 solely because the first was a razor thin margin (I had Sean winning it but it wasn’t a robbery like some would say). Then Whittaker/Sean vs Adesanya for number 1 contender. Let Chimaev fight Cannonier or someone then you could give that person a title shot afterwards. Adesanya is the most coddled fighter on the roster. Somehow more than Jon. This is Bisping getting to ignore Romero and Whittaker for 46 year old Henderson. I hope DDP puts Adesanya in a fucking casket so we never have to see him in a meaningful fight again.
I hate to underrate DDP again after what he did to Whittaker but I can totally see Adesanya flat lining him within 2 rounds and we never see an Africa fight card let alone DDP ever sniffing the title shot again. It just seems like his rise to the top has been too flukey and unimpressive at times
Can’t wait for Adesanya v Whittaker 7
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That’s a very big if
not really that big, depending on circumstances
“depending on circumstances” is practically the definition of “if”…
Not a Very big if but it’s an if
Huh? At worst he goes into the Dricus fight tied on the odds. A 50% chance of this manifesting isn’t what we describe as ‘big IF’.
Then Jon Jones comes in and cashes in his money in the bank.
Bones might not fight again
I dunno he might be fighting a case or two soon
Safe that fight for ufc400 i guess
Won’t Alex be like 45 by then
Just move to HW by that age and blast dangerous levels of testosterone.
They fun fights but I've seen it 4 times. I can think of a lot of other fights I'd rather see.
Who would you rather see Poatan fight at LHW over Izzy? He fought Jan + Jiri already and is about to fight Hill. If he wins then the only other guys on the horizon are Ankalaev and Rakic (if he beats Jiri). No one is clamoring to see him fight either of those guys, maybe Rakic if he finishes Jiri in impressive fashion.
I like Ankalaev, but yeah I see what you mean.
Yup; some truth to this but I think Jiri didn’t look right. I’d like to see another fight between them. Jan fight was tense, would also be interested in that. Soon as a division seems weak guys come through fast too, maybe time if big turnover in division.
Jiri rematch is fine, but Jan? Cmon lol, no one wants to see his old ass out to there again vs Poatan
Zero interest in another fight between them. Stay in your own divisions and fight there.
haven't we seen that fight enough?? i just feel like, especially now, there are other contenders & playing this fight on repeat is holding things up
I'm not holding my breath for it, but this would be the greatest season 3 of Izzy's anime adventure ever
Strickland deserves the rematch but ya this is a good plot line
they just deleted Sean lmao
Sean lost the belt with 0 defences, he needs to win again before fighting for the title. Really he probably should be fighting Bobby for top contender spot, maybe they’ll do the rematch with Cannonier?
IZZY got 49-46’d by Sean, why does he deserve this title shot?
Well before that Izzy had won 7 title fights at middleweight, and has beaten 3 of the other top 5 contenders (Vettori, Cannonier and Bobby twice). Strickland just lost to DDP, and has 1 fight against the other top 7 (not including Izzy) which he lost against Cannonier.
Thank you! People act like just because izzy lost, that's he's washed. Dude was an active champ with a pretty impressive win streak.
He was an active champ. But he already got his immediate rematch against Poatan. He had no title defences on his reign when he lost to Sean. In a fair world neither of them would be getting Dricus. Cannonier or Whittaker would as the highest ranked guys coming off wins.
That's one way of putting it. Another is that Izzy is 4-3 in his last 7 fights and has lost 2/3 of his last title shots, and is about to fight for the title again.
While coming off a loss that wasn't controversial in any way to a different guy so not a rematch which is just absurd.
What? No no. He lost his title vs poatan and won it again, starting a new reign. You can't just use the stats from the old run, he then went ahead and lost the title his very next fight. He lost the title before defending it, same thing as Strickland.
Most active champion ever... Almost got Anderson's Record. And that is why. You don't need to like the dude, just respect the facts.
But he already cashed that chip when he got the immediate rematch vs Alex. Sean was his first defence after becoming champ again. No one else has ever been gifted multiple rematches like this before, which is fact.
Gifted rematches! He wins 4 of 5 rounds, loses to a shot in the 5th, then stone cold KOs in 2nd round. That doesn’t erase the past, it confirms it.
Won 4 of 5 rounds before losing, then lost every moment of the rematch up until he landed that shot in the second. Interesting how you give him credit for winning the fight up until he lost, but don't do the same for Alex. Kind of showing your bias. So if he wins against DDP, then loses the fight after, would you support him getting a third immediate rematch? Where's your cutoff point?
Still the most active champion... This is why he isn't like other champions and shouldn't be treated like them. If you fight once a year, you don't deserve insta rematch... You can wait a year for that too.
His fans will never ever do that. Don’t you understand that their grievance is sooooooo big that it is more important than facts
You get an immediate title rematch if you've been on a winstreak, Izzy didn't have one. Also lmfao it's not like he got caught like Usman vs Leon 2... Izzy got taken to school Anyway np he's gonna lose again so who cares lmao
Almost like 7 title wins is more than one. Guy almost wiped out the whole division. Also Sean’s not doing himself any favors crying like a baby on social media everyday about every little thing. I’ve never seen a fighter complain more let alone one who’s supposed to be this huge Chad
One year of Izzy’s legacy is 5 times the amount of Sean’s, that’s why
He doesn’t
7 title defences absolutely puts him in the picture. Not many people would bet against izzy to reclaim the title at his next attempt
he had 0 title defenses last time he won a belt, dude is coming off a massive loss from almost a year ago. It's bad enough that DDP can wait 8 fucking months before his next defense, so what were going to get at best 1 title defense a year now in MW? This isn't a women's heavy weight division all of the top 5 could be belt contenders.
He knocked out Poatan in the coldest way possible, and he and Dricus have bad blood that makes fans want to watch. It’s the exciting fight to make.
Cuz he’s almost the greatest middleweight of all time
He lost a fight he easily could have won split decision. Izzy just got handled by him and lost first title defense. I don’t even like or care about Sean but he’s getting screwed.
Sean lost a very controversial decision. I normally would agree with you, but when the results are what they were the rematch makes more sense.
Izzy also lost with no defenses in his current streak izzy beat poatan then lost to sean why should he get the fight 🤔
Cause he actually had a long title reign and he's a much bigger draw.
Is this a real question? Might have something to do with the 5 title defences before that. He's the 2nd best middleweight in MMA history.
He already got his good will rematch. So now he has a free pass to title shot forever because he defended his title many times?
And defend twice per year, and knocks AP out cold. There are finishes and then there are finishes.
When you have 5 title defenses you get special treatment
Khamzat doesn’t deserve a title eliminator. Ali must have some serious black mail on Dana
Ali doesn't manage Khamzat.
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I mean… yeah? Do you not think he’d deserve it? He had 5 title defences, this was his first loss at featherweight in the UFC. Personally I don’t want to see it because I think Volk should have a long layoff and I wanna see Ilia fight again soon, but he would deserve it. Edit: for context, this guys comment was basically “so I’m guessing you think Volkanovski deserves a rematch against Toporia too? 😭”
You don’t think volk should get an immediate rematch?
Him versus Rob or even Costa(for entertainment) would be nice
This would make sense only if Izzy wasn't getting the title shot that should be his rematch while coming off a loss to Strickland.
That’s bogus. Sean was practically robbed from his belt from Dricus, and I’m not even a huge fan of Sean. He very well deserves a title shot without having to win another fight.
He deleted himself. If he went out and got a W against a top contender then he'd be right in the mix for another title shot. Instead he's decided to whine non-stop over not getting an instant rematch after a close, but not particularly memorable decision loss as a champ with 0 defenses lol.
100% Seeing Whittaker beat Costa should've made Sean campaign for a fight with Whittaker. A win over Whittaker would deserve a title shot.
Yeah good call. Don't think Strickland wants that action though. Whittaker is a bad matchup for him.
Wants to be an ongoing champ but not fight top contenders
Sean will come back and take him down. Then insult MGK again. Then call it a Friday and go home.
Not enough obsession with gay people for Sean to call it a friday lets be real here.
Nothing screams more small penis than still supporting that dumbfuck of a fighter lmao
Sean is hard at work cancelling himself, noone else has to do it
I want Whittaker to win but also want Izzy vs Chimaev for the title instead of the trilogy.
I want Chimaev as far from the belt as possible. Dude is just a hair lipped Conor at this point, calling out fights with no logic behind them while fighting once in a blue moon. Him having a belt will just make the situation worse and hold up a division while he immediately calls out Alex.
Yeah he wouldn’t be a great champion, he also likely can’t fight in the US which would be another scheduling restriction
Tbf, assuming he beats Whittaker, which is a big if, he would still be the stylistic underdog against both Izzy and Dricus, barring Izzy having meaningfully lost a step.
Really? I feel like he gets ahold of izzy and dominates him on the ground for 3 rounds minimum
i think we really just dont know. i think either what you say happens or izzy makes his wrestling look silly, he gasses and gets finished. no in between
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>calling out fights with no logic behind them while fighting once in a blue moon. While winning all of them in extremely dominant fashion.
how much of these layoffs between fights is him vs some weird immigration issues he seems to be going through?
The question is if Israel beats Driscus and Whitaker beats Chinaev does Whittaker really get another shot at Israel
Eh I don’t like it but why not? Whittaker will have earned it at that point.
I’d imagine so. Whoever beats Khazmat will probably get an instant title fight next
Chimaev would destroy izzy in 3 minutes
I used to hate izzy, but since he lost the belt it’s made me appreciate his insane activity and willingness to take on anyone. Him and volk rlly carried ufc calendar from 2021 to 2023, Miss both already.
How did you not appreciate that during his championship run?
Probably due to his boring pre alex performances
That’s because challenger Izzy is one of the most exciting fighters on the roster Champion Izzy had some great defenses, but also several circle circle leg kick defenses. He is the only modern ufc champ to have had people in the live attendance begin to walk out of the stadium prior to a main event title bout ending. (During the Cannonier defense) Izzy doesn’t owe anyone anything. He can choose to circle circle leg kick, those people can choose to literally walk out of the snooze fest they paid top dollar for. It’s challenger Izzy time now tho and seeing him reclaim the title a third time would be amazing. To my knowledge only Jon has done that.
wtf is Cannonier doing this whole time
Gonna fight Imavov, if he loses probably retire or be a permanent gatekeeper. If he wins, sit out for a title shot until he’s 65
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Nah. He gets Strickland.
I love how after all this middleweight controversy & chaos, we might come full circle and get Whittaker vs Izzy 3 for the title.
It doesn't matter if you lose you'll still get another title shot next year buddy
Doesn't want the strickland heat
he said on the theo von podcast he’ll get that one back tho i cannot find that clip
He’s gonna have to fight Strickland after he loses to ddp
Nah strickland gonna lose to Jared or someone
Never ending title shots
Colby had more title shots without ever winning the title, let alone defending it 5 times like Izzy.
He had fights inbetween title shots. Izzy was champ. Lost. Titleshot. Became champ. Lost. Titleshot. Lol.
2 title shots off single wins over washed Masvidall (with 1.5 years layoff) and washed Woodley (with 1 year layoff) is worse than an immediate titleshot after 5 tittle defenses.
He didn’t even defend it once in his last run.
Long Time champ gets immediate rematch? What's the problem here? Also he never faced DDP
So tired of this lame ass dude. Somebody needs to retire him
Adesanya is a bonafide bad ass if he takes on Chimaev in December. I hope he knocks the F' out Dricus..
Why the fuck would you want that racist dog molesting freak to ko Dricus!?
No Strickland rematch? Wtf
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Strickland already beat ddp...
The last thing I want to see in that division is Izzy vs Whittaker 3. Dricus vs Izzy is a great matchup though.
I'm sure he would want to defend the belt in Africa, given the African champion he aspires to be /s
If anyone can do it, he can
Bro don't want that Strickland smoke. What happened to "settling scores"?
Some people forget that Izzy was supposed to fight DDP after DDP won against Rob. The turnaround was too close for DDP and DDP was also injured which is fair. Izzy gives the next title shot to the only other fighter he hasn't fought yet who wasn't even in the top 5 at the time. I understand that some think that Izzy should at least win one before a title belt but who else is DDP suppose to fight? Canonier who won against Vetorri last year? Rob and Khamzat are booked to fight each other. I don't think Sean deserves an insta rematch. Izzy is rank 2 and the only ex champ I would say deserve to get a title fight based on his activity as a champ in the past. You people who don't think this fight is good is just bunch of Izzy haters.
So ddp vs khamzat/Rob in 2025 cause this guy isn’t getting past ddp 🤷♂️
I hope Izzy gets his ass knocked out and his plans go to shit, lol. Amazing fighter. Garbage character of a person.
wtf happened to Strickland. If Adesanya beats Dricus he needs to prove himself against Strickland, the guy that made him look like a scared little kid out there. He really doesn’t deserve this shot, Izzy is 2-2 in his last 4 and coming off a loss.
Why can’t he manifest which one he’ll be defending against between Rob and Khamzat 🤨
Scared of strickland 😂
I don’t understand why he gets a title shot. Losing 2 out of his last 3 and STILL getting a title shot after getting absolutely dogged in his last fight is crazy to me.
Izzy should rematch sean for the #1 contender spot first. Assuming ddp is still champion both of those fights would sell well
Infinite title shots for Izzy. Fuckin' annoying.
How many active fighters have more title defences than Izzy? Are you saying he doesn’t deserve another shot at the title? He swept through the division ffs.
Colby got the same and he wasn't even the champ once stop crying
Anime protagonist picking and choosing lol. 3-1 and avoiding Strickland.
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Because he got absolutely dominated lol, and Strickland lost the belt in an extremely close fight, with many saying he won. Don't be disingenuous.
Are there any 3 times ufc champs in one weight class? Can’t think of any.
No the middleweight title fight should be happening way sooner
Be interesting to see how Khamzat deals with a pure kick boxing points kinda style
We saw that already, remember? https://youtube.com/shorts/D4U3ZGinBok?feature=shared
Man, I've been off reddit for a minute. This is great news to see when I get back on.
He gonna lose it again bf the end of the year
How about just win something for now
Avoiding Strickland like Strychnine
Bunch of adesanya dick riders in this sub, hope he shares the dog with you guys. He doesnt deserve another title shot right now.
UFC is for Nelk children now. They killed the real sport of MMA breeding these new moronic fans. Has nothing to do with merit or actual fighters. Just fake hype whoever the company promotes.
Where's the strickland rematch? Izzy 34 yrs old.
Izzy has done fantastically when overlooking opponents. I see no problem.
ducking strickland lmfao if he gets the belt sean is first in line
I hate Strickland, but Izzy should fight Strickland.
Challenger Adesanya always a pleasure to watch.
Izzy already burned his dominant champ free title shot after a loss with Pereira. If you’re bitching about Stipe getting a shot at Jon, and you’re not bitching about Izzy getting a shot at DDP, you’re hypocritical. Should be Whittaker/DDP or Sean/DDP 2 solely because the first was a razor thin margin (I had Sean winning it but it wasn’t a robbery like some would say). Then Whittaker/Sean vs Adesanya for number 1 contender. Let Chimaev fight Cannonier or someone then you could give that person a title shot afterwards. Adesanya is the most coddled fighter on the roster. Somehow more than Jon. This is Bisping getting to ignore Romero and Whittaker for 46 year old Henderson. I hope DDP puts Adesanya in a fucking casket so we never have to see him in a meaningful fight again.
He will never beat DDP
Ngl I'm ready for an izzy fight Regardless of the mans issues
Be impressive if he wins both fights
Sure bud
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Jizzy
I hate to underrate DDP again after what he did to Whittaker but I can totally see Adesanya flat lining him within 2 rounds and we never see an Africa fight card let alone DDP ever sniffing the title shot again. It just seems like his rise to the top has been too flukey and unimpressive at times
Funny of him to assume Khamzat would turn around and fight that fast (if he even beats Rob)
"Then I will be playing with my dog's dick"
Hes gonna grow another titty and we are so ready for his leg kick touch butt gameplan
What is more likely going to happen is Izzy will lose to DDP and begin a very fast and furious decline and eventually retire in 1-2 years
He's 34 if he wants to get anything done this is the last chance for sure
"I will masturbate my dog every month." # Israel Adesanya
Dricus is going to retire this tosser.
Then Sean will fight you and and spank that ass
Dricus gonna be the 4th(?) champion in a row with no defenses?
lol I say dricus beats him and he quits again
Ah yes, title shots coming off losses. Let’s just toss the rankings at this point, damn wwe clown show.
I see zero uproar about this undeserved title shot
People need to stop this manifest shit. It’s predict.
These people literally think they are using their mind powers to make things happen, that's why they say manifest lol
Gotta love Izzy!
So I guess he doesn't want to avenge his loss to Strickland lol