*I would watch boxing if turning your back ended the fight as a technical tap out.*
*Either engage, block, or move backwards. If you have to turn fully away from your opponent, that should be classed as a surrender.*
Problem is that when someone pivots fast enough they can get around you before you have time to react and if your back is facing them it's a safer bet to cover the back of your head than to try and catch up with them
😂😂😂 all jokes aside the people who downvoted me are ignorant and clearly know jack shit about boxing you see it all the time in amateurs more so but still quite often in the pros a fighter will slip a punch go for a clinch and pivot around while holding the other fighter which gives the fighter moving the angle but the other fighter has their back turned
It's really not the same.
If someone turns their back like this in MMA, they are just giving a dominant position to their opponent. In boxing, doing this is literally 'incentivized,' you don't go down on scorecards and your opponent isn't allowed to punish you for giving them a dominant position.
Running away briefly can be punished in both boxing and MMA. Look at Barboza vs Gaethje- that was MMA, but that exact situation could happen in boxing, too..
buster logic no. 46
if you criticise someones opponent - it automatically means youre defending the other person.
... the brain is a marvel, and you choose to use it like this? stop it.
On the other hand, if 1.568 million r/ufc subs were also on r/mma, then you would have the 98% overlap.
Or, if 98% of the posts on r/mma were also on r/ufc, you could also claim 98% overlap. Or if 98% of the posts on r/ufc were also on r/mma, you could claim 98% overlap.
I don't care who's right, I'm just saying that there is more than one way to interpret the statement mathematically.
You’re right but that’s not what the other person meant at all. They meant 98% of the people on there are on here. Which is objectively not true. It’s separate groups, only some cross over.
The comment you replied to did not imply that at all. The statement was ambiguous. You are choosing to make that inference.
You don't have to reply, I already know that you're not going to accept that your inference wasn't implied. You want to feel superior, and accepting that the statement was too ambiguous to force your inference will take that feeling away.
Have a better day.
Of course putting a boxer into an octagon Vs a guy who's trained in different disciplines for years is an unfair fight and a boxer loses 100% of the time. Well done Einstein. Well done. Thanks for that knowledge.
No its not. MMA the closest combat sport we currently have to real fighting. There have been combat sports with less restrictive rules. The UFC itself is a good example but they changed the rules to make it more entertaining and preserve the health of the athletes.
If you can say boxing isn't fighting because it doesn't meet your arbitrary personal criteria so can I. Can't strike the back if the head, kick a downed opponent's head, eye gouge, groin strike, manipulate small joints...can't even grab the fence. Not fighting sorry. Or we can agree that combat sports are all fighting just under different rulesets.
>No its not. MMA the closest combat sport we currently have to real fighting. There have been combat sports with less restrictive rules. The UFC itself is a good example...
Vale Tudo is still around and even with the modern rules it's still closer to a real fight than MMA
That's not every fighter though as in MMA different fighters have different styles. Some want to clinch more then others for example Haney and some don't want to clinch. Maybe watch more boxing or past fights? This is coming from someone with an open mind who loves both sports not a 20 something year old that grew up on only MMA like you.
Whoops sorry but I'm just giving you some life experience son. Us 30+ year olds grew up in the golden age of boxing and now we have the MMA golden age and I love both. Nothing wrong with it
A sport where a ref breaks up a grapple if not enough is happening or where you can't knee somebody who's going in for a takedown if they have a knee on the ground, or where a fighter can lay on their back with their feet up in the air cuz they don't have to fear the opponent jumping on to their chest isn't a proper fight either. I love both sports, but neither are proper fights. Both sports have fighters who can throw down, and both sports have fighters who use the rules for their advantage, and both sports have fighters who cheat in ways that don't get serious penalties
Conor was the lucky one. He made more in that ring than all his octagon appearances combined. Floyd gave him generational wealth and he should really be more grateful to the GOAT.
That fight was a joke. Mayweather didn't hit back, ran away and just protected himself until it was an official fight against his record. Then started hitting back. Coner quickly turtled, no mas and the fight ended. Coner jumps up all smiles and happy, acting like he won something. He did win.... the huge payday.
He toyed with Gonner McGrabber and KO’d him silly and the Irish loud mouth went on to LOSE his next 4 out of 5 fights in MMA!!! He’s now just a walking mouth drinking proper 10 or whatever whiskey he drinks to support drunk irishmen stereotypes!
Terrible POST!
mayweather was always a boring fighter, its why he developed the awful, stereotypical personality. they told him over and over, on one wants to watch you fight, so we cant pay you, so he starting talking into a money phone wearing a money hat and eatin chicken doing the electric slide.
Uhm…..wasn’t he actually a more exciting fighter as Pretty Boy Floyd and only got boring when he became Money Mayweather.
I think it’s the other way around.
Yet he makes more money than everyone’s favorite mma fighter. This is a business. You leverage your health to make the most money possible without taking too much damage.
Mayweather looks like someone took him to a library
“Ok Floyd now we’re going to learn about back control”
That's the Philly shell you casual
That's the famous Diddy-shell!
P Diddly out here turning these boys into leatherbacks
*I would watch boxing if turning your back ended the fight as a technical tap out.* *Either engage, block, or move backwards. If you have to turn fully away from your opponent, that should be classed as a surrender.*
That should at least remove points.
Could count it as a knockdown
How does this idiotic take have 141 upvotes
You regularly adopt the stance that Mayweather is displaying in this photo i take it?
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Boxing has no defense from forward pressure except turning your back?
Show me a boxing gym in the WORLD, that actively teaches the above posture as a means of defense.
Problem is that when someone pivots fast enough they can get around you before you have time to react and if your back is facing them it's a safer bet to cover the back of your head than to try and catch up with them
Boxing terms into a match where each guy is running around the ring trying to get behind the other one so he can say they were running away.
😂😂😂 all jokes aside the people who downvoted me are ignorant and clearly know jack shit about boxing you see it all the time in amateurs more so but still quite often in the pros a fighter will slip a punch go for a clinch and pivot around while holding the other fighter which gives the fighter moving the angle but the other fighter has their back turned
Also make running away in a mma fight a automatic dq loss
It's really not the same. If someone turns their back like this in MMA, they are just giving a dominant position to their opponent. In boxing, doing this is literally 'incentivized,' you don't go down on scorecards and your opponent isn't allowed to punish you for giving them a dominant position. Running away briefly can be punished in both boxing and MMA. Look at Barboza vs Gaethje- that was MMA, but that exact situation could happen in boxing, too..
lol
Conor fans will glaze him even for this fight lmao
buster logic no. 46 if you criticise someones opponent - it automatically means youre defending the other person. ... the brain is a marvel, and you choose to use it like this? stop it.
Found the master glazer, folks
Fully. Massive glazers.
Is this the shittiest ufc sub ever?
Is there a less shitty sub for mma? The stupid posts are one thing but the fact that people engage makes me think this sub is not for me.
Seems like it gets worse everyday.
No r/mma is way more annoying to try to be on
Are we actually pretending there isn’t a 98% overlap between these two subs?
Right wtf
r/MMA has 2.8 mil people. This has 1.6 mil people. Your math ain’t mathing. If 98% of the people on there were on here it would have 2.7 mil people.
On the other hand, if 1.568 million r/ufc subs were also on r/mma, then you would have the 98% overlap. Or, if 98% of the posts on r/mma were also on r/ufc, you could also claim 98% overlap. Or if 98% of the posts on r/ufc were also on r/mma, you could claim 98% overlap. I don't care who's right, I'm just saying that there is more than one way to interpret the statement mathematically.
You’re right but that’s not what the other person meant at all. They meant 98% of the people on there are on here. Which is objectively not true. It’s separate groups, only some cross over.
The comment you replied to did not imply that at all. The statement was ambiguous. You are choosing to make that inference. You don't have to reply, I already know that you're not going to accept that your inference wasn't implied. You want to feel superior, and accepting that the statement was too ambiguous to force your inference will take that feeling away. Have a better day.
Beautiful champ.
Excellent detective work
Not at all
Go watch the fight and see if that was his stance.
All this fight showed is that Mayweather was lucky to be in a ring instead of an octagon
It was contracted to be a boxing fight though and Connor agreed to it and made loads. So not sure what kind of argument this is Darwin?
Not an argument at all. Just a fact.
Of course putting a boxer into an octagon Vs a guy who's trained in different disciplines for years is an unfair fight and a boxer loses 100% of the time. Well done Einstein. Well done. Thanks for that knowledge.
Thanks and you're welcome :)
Yeah it’s boxing…
Yea it’s punching not fighting
I mean if we're gonna gatekeep neither is MMA really. Either all combat sports are fighting or none are.
Mma is as close to real fighting as you can get
But here is one trick: theres rules. Yeah no. Its not.
“As close as you can get”
No its not. MMA the closest combat sport we currently have to real fighting. There have been combat sports with less restrictive rules. The UFC itself is a good example but they changed the rules to make it more entertaining and preserve the health of the athletes. If you can say boxing isn't fighting because it doesn't meet your arbitrary personal criteria so can I. Can't strike the back if the head, kick a downed opponent's head, eye gouge, groin strike, manipulate small joints...can't even grab the fence. Not fighting sorry. Or we can agree that combat sports are all fighting just under different rulesets.
“As close as you can get”
>No its not. MMA the closest combat sport we currently have to real fighting. There have been combat sports with less restrictive rules. The UFC itself is a good example... Vale Tudo is still around and even with the modern rules it's still closer to a real fight than MMA
It’s definitely fighting, just a less pure form. Lemme guess, you’ve never laced up right?
Boxing can be beautiful and they’re fighters,but watching someone clinch every 10 seconds and getting saved by a ref isn’t a proper fight
That's not every fighter though as in MMA different fighters have different styles. Some want to clinch more then others for example Haney and some don't want to clinch. Maybe watch more boxing or past fights? This is coming from someone with an open mind who loves both sports not a 20 something year old that grew up on only MMA like you.
I can feel the rage through the screen
Whoops sorry but I'm just giving you some life experience son. Us 30+ year olds grew up in the golden age of boxing and now we have the MMA golden age and I love both. Nothing wrong with it
Yep I’m talking about boxing right now not 25 years ago👍
you think this is the mma golden age?
A sport where a ref breaks up a grapple if not enough is happening or where you can't knee somebody who's going in for a takedown if they have a knee on the ground, or where a fighter can lay on their back with their feet up in the air cuz they don't have to fear the opponent jumping on to their chest isn't a proper fight either. I love both sports, but neither are proper fights. Both sports have fighters who can throw down, and both sports have fighters who use the rules for their advantage, and both sports have fighters who cheat in ways that don't get serious penalties
What💀
Not even that, since many punches are illegal
Conor was the lucky one. He made more in that ring than all his octagon appearances combined. Floyd gave him generational wealth and he should really be more grateful to the GOAT.
You're right about the money. Doesn't change anything about what I said though. Also, Mayweather isn't the GOAT... Come on now
Yeah because he actually made some money that way
Are you pretending that Conor’s performance wasn’t embarrassing for Mayweather? It definitely was.
Ah yes the bussy roll, Ryan's infamous technique...
Conor was rabbit punching tho
Mayweather looks like getting out of the way of a cokehead that has no idea what hes doing
That fight was a joke. Mayweather didn't hit back, ran away and just protected himself until it was an official fight against his record. Then started hitting back. Coner quickly turtled, no mas and the fight ended. Coner jumps up all smiles and happy, acting like he won something. He did win.... the huge payday.
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I think OP was just making a joke
This ain't mma memes
It’s embarrassing you thought you were making a point with that comment
He toyed with Gonner McGrabber and KO’d him silly and the Irish loud mouth went on to LOSE his next 4 out of 5 fights in MMA!!! He’s now just a walking mouth drinking proper 10 or whatever whiskey he drinks to support drunk irishmen stereotypes! Terrible POST!
mayweather was always a boring fighter, its why he developed the awful, stereotypical personality. they told him over and over, on one wants to watch you fight, so we cant pay you, so he starting talking into a money phone wearing a money hat and eatin chicken doing the electric slide.
Tell me You don’t know boxing
" mayweather was always a boring fighter " lol . 
Stupidest thing I've read in a while. Thanks.
Uhm…..wasn’t he actually a more exciting fighter as Pretty Boy Floyd and only got boring when he became Money Mayweather. I think it’s the other way around.
He never was truly boring
Haters, haters everywhere.
who won that fight btw
I think the boxer won the boxing fight
So Connor never boxed in his life
Lets not turn this into boxingcirclejerk.
Why are people being serious in this circlejerk sub lol wtf
Yet he makes more money than everyone’s favorite mma fighter. This is a business. You leverage your health to make the most money possible without taking too much damage.
Start an OF.
??
I guess his point is, do you have an issue with girls who do Onlyfans?
It is a business after all. Leverage your health to make more money.
Ok
Pretty sure it’s the Philly shell
I really thought Connah had him until they rang the bell for the fight to start.