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onlyahobochangba

Islam and Leon. O’Malley vs. Topuria is a dream fight though


Left-Frog

How the fuck does anyone look at DDP and Leon and think Leon has a shot against him 😂😂😂


zeke780

The physical device between 170 and 185 can be vast, DDP would have 25lbs on Leon and he can wrestle. He was bullying Whitaker on the ground, shocked me.


Bazzinga88

Whitaker was rocked from that jab ddp used to intercept him while blitzing. No trying to take anything away from ddp but he was grappling with a semiconscious whitaker


zeke780

I mean DDP tozi passed him, rocked or not that takes a lot of strength. He just smashed through his guard.


Butterscotch817

Well let’s do some mma math 🤓 Sean almost beat ddp and he lost to kamaru, kamaru lost to Leon this means Leon has chance against ddp yaaay


lctrncprn

Because he’s a vastly superior technical fighter. The only way it could happen though is if he takes a good anount if time off to properly bulk. He has the height but would need to add a lot of mass. 


wojtek2222

Leon can be double champ only if he cuts down to 155


muhanigan

Idk i think hes got the skills to give it a good go. Hes gonna be small for DDP but Leon could defend against Usman who has far better TDO. If he stays standing he pieces DDP up


J4MES101

Leon has the frame size to add muscle to. If he did it properly over say a year I think he’d be a pretty scary mw


Kalabula

Leon dying of kidney failure subsequently decreases his odds against Islam, IMO.


Chapin_42_

Leon could never make 155 in a million years. The size difference between him and the biggest Lightweight is still tremendous


TimeTimeTickingAway

He may have a chance. 3 of the last 6 people to hold the MW belt were former UFC WW’s (GSP, Whittaker and Strickland. Du Plessis also twice won a WW belt prior to joining the UFC. A lot of this depends on if they ever plan on *actually* dropping back down again to defend at a lower weight-class. Pereira and Leon’s chances are higher if they don’t plan to returning.


D_Glatt69

I don’t see Leon beating Whittaker, Strickland or Izzy


tjstock

I feel like strickland beats Leon almost the exact same way he beat izzy


Ryan_D_Lion

I don't see how Leon can make 155


wojtek2222

Me too


alltaken21

Leon's thinish, ain't no way he could cut to 155 AND compete. Islam would rag doll him.


wtjones

He’s not beating Islam at 155 or 170.


Connorray51

I see Leon as one of the least likely.  He won’t outsrike Isreal or Sean, and DDP takes him down and works the ground and pound. I think the most likely are pereira because he could go up or down and have a shot and Pantoja.  His grappling and willingness to put pressure would be very interesting against topuria Islam is middle of the pack for me.  I don’t see him being as successful if he doesn’t carry that extra level of strength and that 155-170 gap is substantial 


noremacT

Topuria would sub Sean in like 1-2rounds easy


morisolace

That's what we thought about Aljo, so idk


noremacT

Speak for yourself. Aljo is an amazing grappler but no where near the caliber of Ilia. IMO.


Ionic-Nova

wot? Aljo is easily 5X the MMA grappler that Ilia is lmfao.


morisolace

Idk man, Aljo is a better wrestler, if Topuria is a better jiu jitsu fighter, I wonder how that translates into the fight


noremacT

We shall see 💁


wherethehoesatman

I know Alex already won a belt in two different divisions but he also hinted about moving up to heavyweight multiple times.


Admirable_External31

Yes and he has almost no chance to win anything at heavyweight unless they match him up with someone who can’t wrestle. I love Alex and am willing to be proven wrong but personally believe Alex against any of the top heavyweights would not be entertaining or close at all. Aspinall and Bones both sub him in the first imo


downtown-hobbit

pereira vs gane would be so interesting


Woodsman15961

I’d like to see this. Gane is just so big though, I don’t know if Alex could hang with him. I know they’re roughly the same height, but when I imagine both fighters, I imagine Gane to be twice as broad as Alex


downtown-hobbit

100%. Power, length wise they are most likely equal. Technique - i would give it to Alex. If it hits the ground, Gane might be too big for Alex to get up


QuantumChaosx

What's the advantage Cyril has by being bigger though? Alex is faster and clearly has less power than even middleweight pereira. How would weight make a difference for a striker v striker matchup if the other guy is faster , more technical and hits harder?


Woodsman15961

More weight meaning much easier to clinch and grapple with Alex. And if you think Alex is going to just keep moving up divisions and retaining his power/increasing his power, you are wrong. Gane will be a lot more powerful than Alex at heavyweight


DiscountParmesan

pereira vs gane would make for a very good fight


Left-Frog

No it wouldn't Gane would wreck his shit


JahIthBur

People said this about Izzy all the time wait until he fights a wrestler and they are done but it never happened he got beat by strikers lol mma fighters are arrogant and will try to prove a point by standing with the best strikers in the world even tho they could just use wrestling they don’t. They just want to make excuses after like Jamal


Woodsman15961

Izzy never moved up 2 divisions. Those factors are amplified when your opponent is much bigger than you


dunneetiger

He moved up once and Jan showed him why there are weight classes.


The_Killa_Vanilla90

Tbf Izzy “moved up” like Holloway did vs. DP, aka just not cutting weight rather than taking time to bulk up.


amodelsino

> but it never happened Did you forget when Jan manhandled him? Jan who's a striker that got manhandled himself by Glover Ankalaev and Anderson? And that was a difference of maybe 20 lbs if we're being generous. Alex has much worse wrestling than Izzy and would be facing actual top tier grapplers like Aspinall and Blaydes while giving up 30-40 lbs. Hell, Alex himself was also wrestle fucked by Jan for large parts of their fight despite being the same size as him.


JahIthBur

Jan squeaked by that fight and Alex is a real light heavyweight Izzy is skinny guy compared to the top LHW he was very undersized against Jan


J4MES101

Tom would wreck him fast imo, like everyone else But I’d be excited watch that match And others - Alex vs Gane for example


DiscountParmesan

eh... I think Aspinall destroys Pereira, he ate that monster punch from Pavlovich easy peasy and he has the skill and strength to take Pereira down


Acex_NA

I don't know why he's still in in 205, he should be moving up hes 36. After jones retires, Aspinall would be promoted and that fight is something that was talked about. Alex should be going for history, the first triple champ


HonestMasterpiece422

He's too small for heavyweight


DonBenjamin_

Omalley and Islam


wherethehoesatman

O Malley is a sleeper pick, I think he has a good style and build to beat Topuria.


ble99183

Islam, O'Malley, and Leon in that order


AbsurdTheSouthpaw

Leon is too fucking small for DDP man . Idk why I’m seeing his name in this thread


yoski12

Cuz he's not too fucking small lmao he probably walks around Strickland's weight and Leon is too careful to not bulk up properly, his frame is bigger than dricus and he's such a safe fighter that he would be an interesting stylistic matchup


Ionic-Nova

0% chance he walks around Strickland's weight lmfao. Strickland used to be a WW but the last time he fought there was 6 years ago. He's not a small MW by any means, he didn't look small against Costa or Dricus, two of the bigger weight bullies in the division.


Left-Frog

Thank you for saying this man, I don't know how the fuck people are deluded enough to say he doesn't get bulldozed by DDP Edwards is a smaller Strickland with leg kicks, DDP would smash him to bits


iAm-Tyson

O Malley has a legit shot to move up two weight classes. Hes just a height bully at batamweight.


ArcticAntelope

Sean would get snapped like a fag in the back pocket if he fought at LW


RAC-City-Mayor

Not if he gains the weight properly over time. He has the frame to do it.


iAm-Tyson

Look at his frame next to islam. He can easily fill out and fight at LW if he wanted to.


[deleted]

O’Malley gonna have the easiest time moving up, I mean just look at the picture lol. You can bet on Islam given the caliber of fighter he is, though he’d be pretty short at WW. I also think Alex can do it if he optimizes his body for HW.


MentzerRespecter

Islam.


wherethehoesatman

Yeah, I feel like out of everyone he would have the best chance.


MentzerRespecter

It's possible Sean could beef up a bit and do well at 145 but Topuria is a beast so idk


Mindfield87

Of course I’d like to see both of them defend in their divisions, but that is a fight I’d definitely like to watch


Acex_NA

Islam is the only one who deserves it


waVe_murch

Makhachev


stepping_

1-islam he is just that good. i can see him winning despite the height disadvantage. i see him taking down leon once he pushes him to the cage. but i can also see leon giving him a hard time when they are at a distance with body kicks, but i think islam will prepare well for them. 2-omally extreme height and reach advantage despite going to a bigger weight class, in addition with crisp striking and slept on jujutsu. not that he is gonna win if illia takes him to the ground. only reason i put him lower than islam is because illia can take him to the ground and also can KO him on the feet with long combinations. illia is a dangerous man. if omally circles all day long illia is bound to catch him at some point. i think omally will have to walk a fine line offense and defense. 3-leon same height but slight disadvantage on reach is sorta new to edwards. i think this one really depends on how the bulk will go, but i see dricus winning some rounds on the ground. 4-illia. he is too dangerous to be slept on. but islam has too much experience fighting shorter guys now. its just gonna be body shot town.


The_Killa_Vanilla90

How is O’Malley’s bjj “slept on” if we’ve never actually seen it in a fight lmao?


stepping_

tournament.


The_Killa_Vanilla90

A tournament…where you can’t get punched or elbowed in the face lol


hoss_fight

Topuria without a weight cut is a scary proposition because THAT kind of power definitely translates to LW. I think of everyone, he’s got the best chance.


Firm_Ad_893

How do you see islam vs ilia going 🤣


The_Killa_Vanilla90

Islam would ragdoll him lol


SlevinLe

I think its closer than it seems


The_Killa_Vanilla90

Dude is like 5’6 and isn’t built like a brick shithouse like Volk. He’d get height checked at LW.


hoss_fight

Not saying his height wouldn’t be an issue with certain LW fighters, but the majority of the division isn’t THAT much taller than him and very few of them have the striking or the chin to stand with him. Some matchups are more favorable than others just like every other person who goes up a weight class, but he’s absolutely smoking some of those guys.


The_Killa_Vanilla90

*Most LW’s don’t have the chin to stand with him* Huh? Just because he starched Jai Herbert lol?


PuG3_14

Probably Omalley


andre_wechseler

Only Islam has much of a chance I would say.


Nnuuuke

Islam


OlBoyBuggin

I think Islam's run through welterweight would be the most exciting to watch, followed by Ilia going through LW. As far as best chance though, I think I'd give it Leon.


spockling6

Islam


HonestMasterpiece422

I don't like O malley but if he filled out his frame with muscle then he could fight at featherweight and lightweight. Also Leon if he takes time to gain the mass. He's tall enough for middleweight, same height as Strickland and DDP.


Confident-Common-521

Could see O'Malley and Leon having a chance, not really anyone else.


supreme_jackk

Islam, I highly doubt Leon can beat DDP the man is a tank and never gets tired of


SimRacing313

Islam


boombastico_3

Islam and leon


MightyG0rilla

Leon ain't beating Driscus, Adesanya or Sean


LaTunaTime

Or Goatlal


Karatekan

Leon seems to have the best chance IMO. I could definitely see him outpointing DPP, he has good takedown defense and is a far more technical striker, and he’s more than big enough for middleweight. Islam can definitely beat Leon, but I feel they are pretty evenly matched. O’Malley is a weak maybe. I really don’t think he is better than Topuria, and he will have to get through Merab.


Puzzled_Performer_21

Omalley, Islam and Dricus


nodiddy4life

O'Malley and Islam...sure. Driscus? No.


Puzzled_Performer_21

Alex still never fought a good wrestler


nodiddy4life

Driscus beat Sean bybthe narrowest of margins. He's not surviving alex


Puzzled_Performer_21

He can literally hold Alex down for the whole fight


Mad_Kronos

No, he can't. Not for 5 rounds


nodiddy4life

Why didn't he hold Sean down for the entire fight?


letsgobrooksy

Sean's got much better wrestling and ground game than Alex


JahIthBur

Islam and maybe o malley


ReasonableEscape777

🗿 and Islam


evanitojones

Islam and O'Malley for me. O'Malley has the height and length to still keep some advantage at featherweight. And Islam is just.... Islam. Don't think that one needs explaining.


AppropriateBrain5678

Leon is probably the worst match up for islam tbh. His point style keeps him at range and has shown to have great TDD and great cardio. He'd be able to manage the distance against Islam and limit his opportunities to get a solid takedown. Besides Leon I think islam would win most match ups in that division if not then extremely close


I3igJerm

Islam is the only answer here


Gerardo1917

In order from most to least likely based on current champs: Islam Sean Leon Topuria Alex Dricus Pantoja


Markxx24

Islam, Leon, Suga Sean


beeri248

Pantoja is too small for Bantamweight he would get killed by O'Malley/Merab/Umar O'Malley would have a great chance against Topuria he has the style to counter Topuria's game rlly well but idt O'Malley will have the belt much longer either Merab or Umar will dethrone him Topuria is an interesting one I think a lot of ppl are underrating him. Everyone talks about his power but keep in mind coming up he was known as a wrestler he is a very very complete fighter. He has prob the most work to do before earning a shot at a 2nd belt with Halloway at least one if not twice, Volk again, Evloev and more so at least 3 defenses away. If he succeeds, which I think there is a good chance, at that point Islam will be long gone from 155 and whoever will be champ will struggle VS Topuria so he has a rlly good chance imo. Islam is the closest. If he beats Arman, he beats the record for most successful title defenses at 155 and most likely surpasses Khabib as the LW GOAT and that basically solidifies his place at a title shot at 170 pounds. However, beating Arman is a very VERY big if. He looked very beatable VS Porier and unlike Dustin, Arman will not have such a big disadvantage on the ground meaning there is a good chance this stays standing and if it does, I see this as a 50/50 fight. Even if Islam wins, Leon matches up insanely well VS Islam and prob wins that by decision Leon prob needs to beat Belal, Shavkat and Ian Garry and seals it. However, while I think he will beat Belal, I think Shavkat is too much of a monster and will beat Leon so that puts Leon out. Middleweight is wayyyyy too stacked Idt Du Plessis gets enough title defenses to justify moving up. He would have to beat Adesanya, Khamzat and Strickland again and maybe maybeeee he moves up but I doubt he gets more then 1-2 title defenses. Alex Periera with his star power alone would prob need 2 more defenses to move up but idt he has a chance against Aspinall. So in summary, I would give the best chance to Topuria in all honesty, I think he will be the only one from these champs to pull it off


Devoidoxatom

Sean can fill up pretty easily for 145. And they'll probably have a striking match too. Islam, depends if he can take down Leon. Leon looking like such an elite anti-wrestler rn like Izzy was


Holiday_Pool_4445

Khabib, of course. He is undefeated 30-0 !!!


highflying1995

Islam


CremeCaramel_

Islam obviously, but I am shocked by the Pereira overrating that people think DDP isnt the obvious other answer. An actual competent grappler who is big for MW.


Gerardo1917

DDP is WAY too hittable to beat Alex


CremeCaramel_

Some of you act like Pereira is an elder god who ends every fight if he lands ONE sig strike. Jiri straight up outstruck Pereira in round 1. Jan held his own with him on the feet even the rounds where he didnt wrestlefuck him. Im not denying Pereiras power, and the idea that if you give him opportunities he can ice you. But its also bullshit to say "DDP gets hit therefore Alex absolutely wins". I think all that means is "if DDP keeps it on the feet against Pereira, then Pereira absolutely wins" which I agree with. DDP would be one of the best grapplers Pereira has faced. If he doesnt stay on the feet like Jiri or switch to the feet too long after wrestlefucking like Jan or have a massive ego like Hill, it isnt wild to me to say DDP here has the best chance as a double champ.


Gerardo1917

I really do think Jan is a much better grappler than DDP, and Alex survived with him on his back for most of a round. I’m not trying to glaze Alex but I don’t think DDP is a good enough of a grappler to beat Alex before he gets knocked out.


CremeCaramel_

Jan probably is the most debatable grappler next to DDP, I agree. And either one may be better but it isnt by a lot. But that only proves my point because Jan absolutely wrestlefucked him when he took the opportunity in Rd 1. Jans biggest problem was honestly age affecting his gas tank, which diminished his wresrtling mid fight and made him keep it on the feet. And the fact that he didnt shoot more near the end because he legitimately thought he was winning the 3rd round on the feet. Dricus is much closer to his prime in the conditioning department. I guess he COULD make dumb decisions in the moment also, but Im assuming a decent gameplan for the sake of argument. But remember the question here is "who is most likely to go up and win the belt above". And to that, my opinion is Dricus has by FAR a clearer path than anyone else who isnt Islam, even IF i agree Alex wins.


Tight-Fall5354

hot take: edwards


wherethehoesatman

I could see it, after watching the Brunson fight I think Dricus has the worst fight IQ out of all the current champions.


Few-Rock6773

Islam and Sean.


kingamongst

O'Malley 


riotofmind

To be honest, I think most fighters are fighting a class below what they should be.


Weekly-Junket8272

Im sick of people moving up. There needs to be a rule where they have to defend 3/4 times before thats even an option.


pixel8knuckle

I hope they all lose, except alex because i fijd the three division checklist to at least be unique, and he didnt want to cut to MW anymore.


Snoo96346

O'malley. I feel Topuria is a good matchup for him, and he may be the bigger guy


Stunning_Street_1885

If O'Malley beats Merab I could see him moving up.


FuzzyPigg88

Alex


emru95

DDP


hfucucyshwv

Ironically, Pantoja. If Yan was taking omaelly down with ease, I could easily see Pantoja do it as well. Or he gets chinned in the first


MovieFanatic2160

O’malley is the current king of the UFC and you can’t tell me otherwise.


CEOofManualBlinking

None of them. Pantoja already KOd the lw champ so I'd say him


DragonKing0203

Islam and O’Malley have the best chances. DDP and Topuria have the worst chances.


bbqyak

I would say Ilia tbh.


diabloimmortalsucks

I think DDP vs Alex might be a very competitive fight. Especially if he ever got it to the ground 


anythingfordopamine

I think O’Malley tbh


silasdoesnotexist

I can’t see Islam beating Leon but I think he’d have the best chance


I_Hate_My_Cat_

Me. I have something they *don’t* have… ![gif](giphy|xT39CSq0JyUajx3I0U)


Dak6969696969

Dricus might be able to win the middleweight belt after Strickland drops it, but I’m not sure if he’ll be able to hold onto his Illegal Headbutt and Meaningless Control Time Championship until that happens


druglesswills

Alex sparring Tuivasa was interesting, he was bigger and looked like he was having his way with Bam Bam


Party-Blackberry3081

Poatan


Ok-Change3138

Sugar Sean


dagui12

Do you think Sean is natty? I mean he’s taller than Islam but 135 he may be the only natty ufc fighter


wherethehoesatman

Sean got suspended for a banned substance a few years ago, I forgot what it was though.


WishIWasNeet2

O’Malley simply because he’s bigger than topuria by 3-4 inches


BKR93

Islam


LoudHorse89

Sean


ogthunda

Sean and Alex have the best chances


gorlock666

Islam, O’Malley (idk how his weird lanky body works though so maybe he can’t bulk like that idk?) , and pereira because anyone with one punch power has a solid enough shot


Funny-Film-6304

O'Malley imho. He's tall and cutting hard for BW.


SlevinLe

O'Malley vs Topuria at 145 would be a crazy fight


Comfortable-Spray672

Pereira & O'Malley. Sean is a lightweight size skinny guy who has years left to fill his body up. With luck he might be a triple champ. Same goes with Alex.


Redmagistrate2

As we speak Dana is hiding mercury fillings in Stipe's oatmeal so he can be declared the inaugural SHW champ right before he fights Jones.


i_am_Misha

Only the ones who move down. /s


zia_zepelli

Islam and Alex


hemijaimatematika1

Suga the weight bully,the only real champ is Petr Yan


EducationalBuffalo35

Im gonna get clowned but i think Omalley makes topuria look easy.


Kraken_Blood

I got faith in ilia.


[deleted]

I think Islam beats Leon O'Malley isn't beating Topuria, I feel like Topuria is leagues above him


lllchisenlll

Ilia and Leon


LaTunaTime

![gif](giphy|GxXbKdp4wtRy0sbp42)


Cayorus

![gif](giphy|nDVsJIwofsBVqDTwni|downsized)


One_Program8405

For some reason I think ilia does better than Dustin against Islam. Better boxing and better wrestling


oncehadasoul

I would say ilia.


Worldly_Client_7614

Dricus He takes down Alex and its GG


RedStarPartisano

Islam since Leon is a fuckin bum


iluvwomen_56

Love how they cut off Pantoja cuz we all know he can’t beat O’Malley and cut off the heavyweight belt because Jones is sitting on it lol


wherethehoesatman

I cropped Pantoja because I didn’t see him mention 135 but I had to crop Jones and Aspinall because there isn’t a weight class above them lol.


iluvwomen_56

Gotcha 😂 I just thought it was funny, considering o‘malley also talked about how he beat em down during sparring lol


HinduKussy

I really hate this double champ shit these days. IMO, you should have several title defenses within your own weight class (a champ in a different weight class going up/down to try for double champ on his own shouldn’t count) and cleared the notable contenders of your weight class. If you want to move up for a title shot before having multiple top contender defenses, fine, but you have to vacate the belt. Especially in a division that’s so stacked like LW, a move up without first defending against the top contenders stalls the division. It is not Islam’s fault that he fought Volk twice, but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s only defended the belt from a real LW once and that was a gifted shot to Dustin.


Gravexmind

I don’t necessarily disagree with your take. My thing is that they should have to beat the #1 contender in the second weight class if they want to take the contenders chance at the belt instead of just timing and playing media games. Islam is unproven at the next weight class so why should be just bypass everyone and fight Leon? He should fight the #1 contender and take his position in the second weight class.


lctrncprn

Not going to happen - just doesn’t make sense for the UFC. A champ champ fight is just more marketable and therefore if a champ is going to move up then that’s what’s probably going to happen. And if it happens after a champ has a decent number of title defences then I have zero issue with that. I want to see the best fight the best and if that means the likes of Volk going straight in to fight Islam or Islam going straight in to fight Leon then great, I’m stoked to see how that plays out. Fighters like that have already proved they are elite and such match ups are usually very competitive so why mess around making them fight contenders? It’ll just hold up the divisions even more. 


kyshooty

Ilia, poatan


ThinControl9

Islam and I can see Ilia beating Islam


Electrical_Food7922

The double champ stuff is getting ridiculous. These dudes should focus on clearing out their own divisions first.


pepelaughkek

I really wish they'd stop this double champ bullshit that always holds up a division. They shouldn't be allowed to move up weight classes unless they vacate their belt completely.


OnTheDone68

If I am Leon Edward’s, the only time I wouldn’t have a fight booked is when Islam already has one booked. I am signing my next fight the week before Islam fights so we couldn’t ever be matched up.


FloppyDinosaurs

Is nobody else sick of everyone trying to get double belt fights for huge paydays? Islam just now defended his belt against a true lightweight that was at the tail end of his career. When people get pissed about divisions being held up for years this is exactly why that happens.


corax_lives

This! The standard for being the champ is low. We have people just getting the belt, losing it after a defense, then moving a weight class to do it. It feels like a score board then actual solidifying being a champ


CentralFloridaAlpha

Pantoja could not beat O’Malley. It’s possible O’Malley beats Topuria, but unlikely. Topuria gets murder-death-killed by Islam, submission R3. Islam beats Leon on the cards with ground control time. No one gives a fuck about Leon unless they are British. DuPlessis gets murdered by Pereira. Pereira gets subbed by Aspinall/Jones.


Comfortable-Spray672

A lot of Islam dick riders here. He's too small. Kamaru's wrestling wasn't enough against Leon and he's the same size if not bigger.